Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video card, the video card fan resets itself to run low RPM, buggy games will also cause problems at times, or a card going bad (only Nvidia on that so far) but never the Ati driver my friend. I've had an X1900XT 256M, HD3850, HD4850 and now an HD5770 in my experience. On 2/17/2010 3:29 PM, Winterlight wrote: Yes I am sure, I guess you missed Greg's post At 12:42 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote: Are you sure that's what it is? I've been downloading and installing Ati drivers since my X1900XT and don't ever recall being forced to reboot because of them. On 2/17/2010 1:03 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 10:54 AM 2/17/2010, you wrote: It's been a long time since 2D acceleration was even an issue, no? I don't care if they perform better or not, I would just like to see some stable drivers from ATI so I don't have to reboot twice a day! On 2/17/2010 10:53 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: 2D acceleration is another area that has problems with the latest video cards/drivers. Ati is mostly affected but Nvidia also has it's share of problems. There is a part 2 to this article that I'm reading next. Still going to be a few months before AMD gets mature drivers out to us but at this point in my gaming experience I still recommend the 5000 series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-11.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Strong recommend
I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
For one, if you have small children discs become fragile items that wear out very quickly or get easily ruined. Also, ripping them to hard disk means that I can serve them anywhere in the house and on any device. Useful for things like MacBooks which still can't play BluRay discs. I can also view them on my iPhone or laptop while traveling if I want. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Kidsyeah, I get that. I don't have that problem to worry about. I think serving movies is neat and cool, no doubt. Viewing on the iPhone (or similar) kills the movie for me. The Laptop is ok when traveling...I admit to doing that when I feel trapped. But any movie I really like, I'm going to want to see it on my full HT. I will watch stuff off netflix when I can...but never something I hope will be really good. Mediocre movie, mediocre presentation, is my mantra. On 2/18/2010 11:10 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: For one, if you have small children discs become fragile items that wear out very quickly or get easily ruined. Also, ripping them to hard disk means that I can serve them anywhere in the house and on any device. Useful for things like MacBooks which still can't play BluRay discs. I can also view them on my iPhone or laptop while traveling if I want. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] UPS Deals?
I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas. I try to get at least 4 at those times. Sorry, I buy seasonally like that. Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life), so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I think*... Rick Glazier From: Hunter, Gary Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's? I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I have they are all underpowered. I don't need top of the range just a good deal :)
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
At 04:42 PM 2/17/2010, Stan Zaske wrote: Are you sure that's what it is? I've been downloading and installing Ati drivers since my X1900XT and don't ever recall being forced to reboot because of them. I'm in the same boat, never had stability problems with ATI drivers in the last four years. T
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
At 11:20 AM 2/18/2010, Stan Zaske wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video card, the video card fan resets itself to run low RPM, buggy games will also cause problems at times, or a card going bad (only Nvidia on that so far) but never the Ati driver my friend. I've had an X1900XT 256M, HD3850, HD4850 and now an HD5770 in my experience. I have to agree. I've run a lot of stability testing on systems (4-7 per day) and many of those are ATI, and I'm not seeing more failures on ATI video than on any other. Just finished 24 hours of testing on an ATI based system with no problems. T
Re: [H] Strong recommend
I'm playing Mass Effect 2 right now and it is amazing. It's more of an action-drama movie than anything else. There is some FPS content but it's not much. Highly recommended. I would also suggest you check out Plants vs Zombies on Steam. Great Popcap tower defense game, lots of replay value. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Recently finished Batman: Arkham Asylum.mightily impressed with it! -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: 18 February 2010 16:39 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Strong recommend I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Thanks for the rec. For Steam games, do you get and pay for it online? Are there some demos around? I've sort of fallen out of gaming mode over the last few years. One game i used to really enjoy was Tanarus - a tank game. Team based. Too much fun. That was way, way back in the day...that would be too cool now with all this bandwidth, CPU/GPU power we have today. On 2/18/2010 12:08 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: I'm playing Mass Effect 2 right now and it is amazing. It's more of an action-drama movie than anything else. There is some FPS content but it's not much. Highly recommended. I would also suggest you check out Plants vs Zombies on Steam. Great Popcap tower defense game, lots of replay value. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Yes, you pay online and the game is then locked to your steam account. I normally order my steam CD keys from g2play.net though as they are normally cheaper! -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: 18 February 2010 17:16 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Strong recommend Thanks for the rec. For Steam games, do you get and pay for it online? Are there some demos around? I've sort of fallen out of gaming mode over the last few years. One game i used to really enjoy was Tanarus - a tank game. Team based. Too much fun. That was way, way back in the day...that would be too cool now with all this bandwidth, CPU/GPU power we have today. On 2/18/2010 12:08 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: I'm playing Mass Effect 2 right now and it is amazing. It's more of an action-drama movie than anything else. There is some FPS content but it's not much. Highly recommended. I would also suggest you check out Plants vs Zombies on Steam. Great Popcap tower defense game, lots of replay value. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of
Re: [H] Strong recommend
I second Arkham Asylum - great game. Also if you like Bioware RPGs, check out Dragon Age: Origins. And Torchwood is great if you like Diablo-style games. Steam is a delivery service for games. Basically, instead of going to a store and buying the disc in a box you can purchase the game through Steam and download a digital copy. Over the last couple of years I've been getting all my games through it for a couple of reasons. The big one is that I am in Canada, and I got frustrated going to the store only to find the release date for a game up here is different than in the US or they are out of stock. I've also have never had a Steam game give me a problem with crashing or drivers - they do an auto update patching system that is pretty nice. Other benefits are the ability to sync save games and settings across multiple machines through your Steam account. And yes, there are a lot of games on Steam which also have demos, but not all. Steam is not a monthly subscription and it offers both purchase once games (like the ones mentioned above) and some MMORGS where you pay per month. It has a pretty huge selection of game types, including a lot of casual ones. And they occasionally have huge sales. Over Christmas I was able to get Warhammer DOW II for $20, Mirror's Edge for $5, STALKER for $2, Left for Dead for $7.50, and Prey for $2. That's a lot of fun for little cost right there :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: Thanks for the rec. For Steam games, do you get and pay for it online? Are there some demos around? I've sort of fallen out of gaming mode over the last few years. One game i used to really enjoy was Tanarus - a tank game. Team based. Too much fun. That was way, way back in the day...that would be too cool now with all this bandwidth, CPU/GPU power we have today. On 2/18/2010 12:08 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: I'm playing Mass Effect 2 right now and it is amazing. It's more of an action-drama movie than anything else. There is some FPS content but it's not much. Highly recommended. I would also suggest you check out Plants vs Zombies on Steam. Great Popcap tower defense game, lots of replay value. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version:
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Second/third on Steam. Get the games during their sales (I also picked up like 10 games during the holiday sale for 50-80% off most). Look for top games under $5 or $10 and you can get some great deals. All my friends who like RPGs say Dragon Age: Origins is great, and as good as DA:O is, they say Mass Effect 1/2 are possibly even better (Bioware is hitting it out of the park with their stuff lately)! I've gotten addicted to Torchwood (on Steam) but it's a *total* Diablo clone, down to the music being *exactly* the same, so it's starting to wear off already-but that means it's easy to pick up and put down that way. Oh, and you can mod it very easily, which is actually very nice and lets you adjust annoying things about the game easily. And yeah, the cool thing about Steam is a lot of the Indie, easy-to-play/cool games. Check out Plants vs Zombies as Brian mentioned; it was pretty awesome and *lots* of fun, and I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel. Also, World of Goo is a great physics-based puzzle game with would be great for kids too. Braid is also physics-based (and the artwork is beautiful), but Braid made my head hurt too much for a game and I gave up at level 4 or so once things started getting really wonky! :P Trine was a beautiful side-scrolling platformer, and the multiplayer aspects were very cool-oh, and I got totally addicted to Puzzle Quest over the summer and am trying to avoid getting the space-based sequel to it! :P HTH! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:55 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Strong recommend I second Arkham Asylum - great game. Also if you like Bioware RPGs, check out Dragon Age: Origins. And Torchwood is great if you like Diablo-style games. Steam is a delivery service for games. Basically, instead of going to a store and buying the disc in a box you can purchase the game through Steam and download a digital copy. Over the last couple of years I've been getting all my games through it for a couple of reasons. The big one is that I am in Canada, and I got frustrated going to the store only to find the release date for a game up here is different than in the US or they are out of stock. I've also have never had a Steam game give me a problem with crashing or drivers - they do an auto update patching system that is pretty nice. Other benefits are the ability to sync save games and settings across multiple machines through your Steam account. And yes, there are a lot of games on Steam which also have demos, but not all. Steam is not a monthly subscription and it offers both purchase once games (like the ones mentioned above) and some MMORGS where you pay per month. It has a pretty huge selection of game types, including a lot of casual ones. And they occasionally have huge sales. Over Christmas I was able to get Warhammer DOW II for $20, Mirror's Edge for $5, STALKER for $2, Left for Dead for $7.50, and Prey for $2. That's a lot of fun for little cost right there :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: Thanks for the rec. For Steam games, do you get and pay for it online? Are there some demos around? I've sort of fallen out of gaming mode over the last few years. One game i used to really enjoy was Tanarus - a tank game. Team based. Too much fun. That was way, way back in the day...that would be too cool now with all this bandwidth, CPU/GPU power we have today. On 2/18/2010 12:08 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: I'm playing Mass Effect 2 right now and it is amazing. It's more of an action-drama movie than anything else. There is some FPS content but it's not much. Highly recommended. I would also suggest you check out Plants vs Zombies on Steam. Great Popcap tower defense game, lots of replay value. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: I know my Sony BD player is dog slow...gawd...it got so bad that I ordered an OPPO 83...and I just got it a few minutes ago...didn't really want to drop dough on that...but now I can play my SACD and DVD-Audio discs as well. The Sony will move upstairs. Speaking of games...anyone know of a good non-FPS that runs on 64-bit Windows 7? FPS games make me ill. I just want something to kill time that doens't take an huge investment of time to learn. Some simulations seem so serious in terms of learning curve. They then sit in the box. On 2/18/2010 11:05 AM,
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
At 07:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video HD5770 in my experience. Well, you may be right. I have disconnected my other monitors and running just one 30 inch monitor off the second of the 4970s and it is working OK. I might just have a bad video card. I have never seen a video go out where they don't just die, but this one works and just keeps crapping out the display requiring a reboot. I will be running further tests to make sure... but right now I think one of my 4970s went bad. So what should I get to replace it? I run three monitors. I currently have the two 4970s. one handles two 24 inch Dells and one handles a 30 inch Gateway. I need to replace the one that handles the 30 inch. Would it be best to get another 4970? Or should I get a 5000 series and forget about Crossfire? Is there something I could get that would be crossfire in just one card for the 30 inch. Even better is there a card that would work with my existing 4970 to play games across all three monitors. Any and all advice appreciated. w
Re: [H] UPS Deals?
I haven't found any spectacular deals yet. Who knows I may well end up waiting that long :) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:58 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals? I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas. I try to get at least 4 at those times. Sorry, I buy seasonally like that. Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life), so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I think*... Rick Glazier From: Hunter, Gary Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's? I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I have they are all underpowered. I don't need top of the range just a good deal :) If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Strong recommend
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is I have just started to rip DVD's and toss them on my PC. With Tivo Desktop plus my TiVo can transfer them over and I can watch very easilly. Simple things like the 8 second rewind and the tivo remote controlling it is worth it for me. Christopher Fisk
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I admit, I keep a whs with at the moment 10tb of storage. I put all of my dvds and movies on it. That way all the xboxes and ps3 see them. (I use ps3mediaserver for my upnp w/transcoder). It makes life easier to have all my media everywhere in the house without hauling around discs that get destroyed. And trust me, that's a bitch. I immediately rip bd and hie the discs. I replaced 'Cars' at least twice to kids. Its the one thing I hate about games. We picked up 'uncharted 2' for Christmas and it lasted all of two weeks before a kid destroyed it. Rip and hide the originals. If the disc has a digital copy (several) then at times I'll use that. But no way do I leave originals out, ever. I will also say that having it in mkv in this mode means no recompression so completely original quality, and all my media centers grab hold. For tv series its better. I hate swapping discs. With mytv, and all the shows archives to my whs, I can see an entire season at once and flow through. And since they are pulled in full quality from my dvds/bd, I'm not looking at some cruddy web rips. But yeah, kids are the hugemotivating factor for me. That and load times. I have the oppo83. Great player. But uh, nothing gets straight to the movie remotely as quick as just the straight up mkv Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Christopher Fisk chr...@mhonline.net Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:34:27 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Strong recommend On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is I have just started to rip DVD's and toss them on my PC. With Tivo Desktop plus my TiVo can transfer them over and I can watch very easilly. Simple things like the 8 second rewind and the tivo remote controlling it is worth it for me. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. By the way, by chopping my previous post you changed the meaning of what I originally wrote. On 2/18/2010 1:02 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 07:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video HD5770 in my experience. Well, you may be right. I have disconnected my other monitors and running just one 30 inch monitor off the second of the 4970s and it is working OK. I might just have a bad video card. I have never seen a video go out where they don't just die, but this one works and just keeps crapping out the display requiring a reboot. I will be running further tests to make sure... but right now I think one of my 4970s went bad. So what should I get to replace it? I run three monitors. I currently have the two 4970s. one handles two 24 inch Dells and one handles a 30 inch Gateway. I need to replace the one that handles the 30 inch. Would it be best to get another 4970? Or should I get a 5000 series and forget about Crossfire? Is there something I could get that would be crossfire in just one card for the 30 inch. Even better is there a card that would work with my existing 4970 to play games across all three monitors. Any and all advice appreciated. w
Re: [H] UPS Deals?
Gary, I know money is tight. Ups's are costly. But, look at the APC Back-Ups brand. Someone on our list uses the Smart-UPS level boxes. I could never justify the expense (~$100). I use APC's 1500KVA LCD toys now. Replacements for 1100KVA units (1998). I think APC may offer 1000VA and 750VA choices. Sales come and go. Understand. What is your data/LAN worth? For sure, I think you need at least 1000KVA for what you have in your study; as you have it wired ATM. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 02/18/2010 17:15, Hunter, Gary wrote: I haven't found any spectacular deals yet. Who knows I may well end up waiting that long :) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:58 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals? I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas. I try to get at least 4 at those times. Sorry, I buy seasonally like that. Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life), so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I think*... Rick Glazier From: Hunter, Gary Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's? I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I have they are all underpowered. I don't need top of the range just a good deal :) If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. well I do have a 30 inch monitor, but crossfire in a multi monitor setup has proved to be very annoying. I was thinking of a HD 5770. Wouldn't this, on it's own, be faster then my two 4870s in Crossfire?... (correction from my calling them 4970s originally.) If I popped for the 5850 would it be a benefit in a multi monitor setup where the monitors differ in size? By the way, by chopping my previous post you changed the meaning of what I originally wrote. Sorry, it was unintentional. I was just trying to clean things up so it was easier to follow, I should of just left the first sentence. Thanks for the help, I don't really know video cards.. I have no idea what is what. w On 2/18/2010 1:02 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 07:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video HD5770 in my experience. Well, you may be right. I have disconnected my other monitors and running just one 30 inch monitor off the second of the 4970s and it is working OK. I might just have a bad video card. I have never seen a video go out where they don't just die, but this one works and just keeps crapping out the display requiring a reboot. I will be running further tests to make sure... but right now I think one of my 4970s went bad. So what should I get to replace it? I run three monitors. I currently have the two 4970s. one handles two 24 inch Dells and one handles a 30 inch Gateway. I need to replace the one that handles the 30 inch. Would it be best to get another 4970? Or should I get a 5000 series and forget about Crossfire? Is there something I could get that would be crossfire in just one card for the 30 inch. Even better is there a card that would work with my existing 4970 to play games across all three monitors. Any and all advice appreciated. w
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
From my research the 5850 hits the sweet spot for performance vs price. Granted that is a budget-driven decision.. and I'm a gamer and I want to take advantage of the eye candy. - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 17:01 Subject: Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal? At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. well I do have a 30 inch monitor, but crossfire in a multi monitor setup has proved to be very annoying. I was thinking of a HD 5770. Wouldn't this, on it's own, be faster then my two 4870s in Crossfire?... (correction from my calling them 4970s originally.) If I popped for the 5850 would it be a benefit in a multi monitor setup where the monitors differ in size? By the way, by chopping my previous post you changed the meaning of what I originally wrote. Sorry, it was unintentional. I was just trying to clean things up so it was easier to follow, I should of just left the first sentence. Thanks for the help, I don't really know video cards.. I have no idea what is what. w On 2/18/2010 1:02 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 07:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video HD5770 in my experience. Well, you may be right. I have disconnected my other monitors and running just one 30 inch monitor off the second of the 4970s and it is working OK. I might just have a bad video card. I have never seen a video go out where they don't just die, but this one works and just keeps crapping out the display requiring a reboot. I will be running further tests to make sure... but right now I think one of my 4970s went bad. So what should I get to replace it? I run three monitors. I currently have the two 4970s. one handles two 24 inch Dells and one handles a 30 inch Gateway. I need to replace the one that handles the 30 inch. Would it be best to get another 4970? Or should I get a 5000 series and forget about Crossfire? Is there something I could get that would be crossfire in just one card for the 30 inch. Even better is there a card that would work with my existing 4970 to play games across all three monitors. Any and all advice appreciated. w
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
Winterlight, Please do not feel like a lone ranger here. Personally, I am moving back to nVidia. One machine at a time. I use 9600GT devices w/basic drivers. ATI? Been there, done that, not happy! Bah! But, I do not have the 3-screen business you now have. Really wish I could share a solution. Sadly, I can not. Best, Duncan On 02/18/2010 20:01, Winterlight wrote: At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: snip Thanks for the help, I don't really know video cards.. I have no idea what is what. w
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
On 19 Feb 2010, at 01:01, Winterlight wrote: At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. well I do have a 30 inch monitor, but crossfire in a multi monitor setup has proved to be very annoying. I was thinking of a HD 5770. Wouldn't this, on it's own, be faster then my two 4870s in Crossfire?... (correction from my calling them 4970s originally.) the 5770 is slightly faster computationally than a single 4870 (800 shaders at.. 850Mhz I believe? rather than 750 or so for the 4870) but it's WY down on memory bandwidth, 76GB/s vs 115GB/s or therebouts. a 5870 however, will be about as fast as a pair of 4870's :)
Re: [H] UPS Deals?
Thanks for the advice Duncan. Got my new surge protectors delivered today and guess what. When the Laser printer kicks in the PC no longer turns off :) So I guess the surge protection on the old UPS is not up to scratch :-) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:45 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals? Gary, I know money is tight. Ups's are costly. But, look at the APC Back-Ups brand. Someone on our list uses the Smart-UPS level boxes. I could never justify the expense (~$100). I use APC's 1500KVA LCD toys now. Replacements for 1100KVA units (1998). I think APC may offer 1000VA and 750VA choices. Sales come and go. Understand. What is your data/LAN worth? For sure, I think you need at least 1000KVA for what you have in your study; as you have it wired ATM. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 02/18/2010 17:15, Hunter, Gary wrote: I haven't found any spectacular deals yet. Who knows I may well end up waiting that long :) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:58 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals? I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas. I try to get at least 4 at those times. Sorry, I buy seasonally like that. Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life), so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I think*... Rick Glazier From: Hunter, Gary Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's? I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I have they are all underpowered. I don't need top of the range just a good deal :) If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
There's also the upcoming 5830. As its numerical designation should indicate, it fits between the 5770 and 5850 in price and performance. Current rumor (as of today) is that launch is targeted for one week from today. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of James Boswell Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:23 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal? On 19 Feb 2010, at 01:01, Winterlight wrote: At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. well I do have a 30 inch monitor, but crossfire in a multi monitor setup has proved to be very annoying. I was thinking of a HD 5770. Wouldn't this, on it's own, be faster then my two 4870s in Crossfire?... (correction from my calling them 4970s originally.) the 5770 is slightly faster computationally than a single 4870 (800 shaders at.. 850Mhz I believe? rather than 750 or so for the 4870) but it's WY down on memory bandwidth, 76GB/s vs 115GB/s or therebouts. a 5870 however, will be about as fast as a pair of 4870's :)
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
Well, I am not a big gamer a couple of games a year, maybe, and usually games that are a few years old. However, I do drive three large monitors, so what do you think... keep my good 4870 to drive my two 24 inch dells and get the 5850 for the thirty inch and forget about Crossfire? It is too bad I can't use all three monitors when playing a game. thanks, W At 09:19 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: There's also the upcoming 5830. As its numerical designation should indicate, it fits between the 5770 and 5850 in price and performance. Current rumor (as of today) is that launch is targeted for one week from today. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of James Boswell Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:23 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal? On 19 Feb 2010, at 01:01, Winterlight wrote: At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. well I do have a 30 inch monitor, but crossfire in a multi monitor setup has proved to be very annoying. I was thinking of a HD 5770. Wouldn't this, on it's own, be faster then my two 4870s in Crossfire?... (correction from my calling them 4970s originally.) the 5770 is slightly faster computationally than a single 4870 (800 shaders at.. 850Mhz I believe? rather than 750 or so for the 4870) but it's WY down on memory bandwidth, 76GB/s vs 115GB/s or therebouts. a 5870 however, will be about as fast as a pair of 4870's :)
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Biggest downside of Steam purchases: 1. You get none of the physical box contents like maps, manuals, etc... 2. Licensed per-user with no resale or moving of licenses to another account nevermind the idea of parent-child-sibling sharing of a title. 3. Can be even MORE draconian than disc-in-drive protections. 4. Autopatching is FORCED, not optional, so if a current update is crap you have to take it rather than waiting for it to be revised. 5. Price tends NOT to be better than street price AND then factor in #1. All that said #2 is has to be fat Gabe's biggest sin! I have 2 kids here who I've got to spend $40/ea to get Orange Box despite already investing $90 to buy myself HL2 gold Orange Box. Most recently Valve has thumbed their nose at existing owners of STALKER SoC or CS who bought retail licenses vs. steam, we users can not get upgrade pricing for the CoP the 3rd stalker game via steam which is like 1/2 the best retail price out there. On 2/18/2010 9:54 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: I second Arkham Asylum - great game. Also if you like Bioware RPGs, check out Dragon Age: Origins. And Torchwood is great if you like Diablo-style games. Steam is a delivery service for games. Basically, instead of going to a store and buying the disc in a box you can purchase the game through Steam and download a digital copy. Over the last couple of years I've been getting all my games through it for a couple of reasons. The big one is that I am in Canada, and I got frustrated going to the store only to find the release date for a game up here is different than in the US or they are out of stock. I've also have never had a Steam game give me a problem with crashing or drivers - they do an auto update patching system that is pretty nice. Other benefits are the ability to sync save games and settings across multiple machines through your Steam account. And yes, there are a lot of games on Steam which also have demos, but not all. Steam is not a monthly subscription and it offers both purchase once games (like the ones mentioned above) and some MMORGS where you pay per month. It has a pretty huge selection of game types, including a lot of casual ones. And they occasionally have huge sales. Over Christmas I was able to get Warhammer DOW II for $20, Mirror's Edge for $5, STALKER for $2, Left for Dead for $7.50, and Prey for $2. That's a lot of fun for little cost right there :)
Re: [H] Strong recommend
No TIVO here, ever I think, but using the PS3 to watch whatever off Ps3MediaServer beats having physical disc in drive 99% of time for ease of use convince. On 2/18/2010 2:34 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is I have just started to rip DVD's and toss them on my PC. With Tivo Desktop plus my TiVo can transfer them over and I can watch very easilly. Simple things like the 8 second rewind and the tivo remote controlling it is worth it for me. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] Realtek on-board NIC question
NEVER take a driver update from Microsoft unless it's to update M$ hardware, period. newer is based on WHQL not the actual version or date of the driver and I have been burned more than once trust even basic driver's updates from M$. On 2/10/2010 1:57 PM, DSinc wrote: I still use XPsp3. My Asus m/b's do use Realtek on-board NIC chips. I use them. For the past 6-8 months, MS WinUpdate suggests that I STILL need to update my driver for: Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigbit Ethernet NIC OK. Fine I have updated my NIC driver each month, as best I can, from the Realtek website. It appears that I still do NOT have a MS compatible NIC driver. I give up! I've been so burned in the past using MS suggested drivers from the Custom Update view. I usually just blow it off. But, this Update bitch is now 8 months old! Does MS just not care for Realtek? I can solve this by just plugging in Intel GBit NIC cards. I just do not want too ATM,(unless I have to, just to make MS happy again.) Is there a battle between MS and Realtek? Confused I am. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Power Issues
Why on earth would you UPS a printer, more over a LASER printer that technically should be on it's own BREAKER/circuit never mind a separate outlet? On 2/14/2010 8:07 AM, Hunter, Gary wrote: Hi, I have a color laser printer (Brother HL-4040CDN) and an APC BACK_UPS ES 350 plugged into the same power outlet. A PC is hung off of the UPS along with some speakers, a harddrive and two switches. The PC is nothing special and has 450w PSU in it (can't remember the make but can look it up if it's important). So the problem is when the printer comes out of sleep mode it temporarily draws a lot more current and this causes the PC to shut down. I am assuming I have a problem with the UPS maybe a bad battery, but the UPS is not beeping or indicating it is bad in anyway. Am I correct in thinking the UPS is bad, or could it be a combination of a bad power outlet and a bad UPS? I am thinking when there is the increased current draw it delivers all the power to the top socket and the bottom doesn't get any. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: [H] Power Issues
LOL, laser printers are no-no's on most cheap, low power consumer/soho grade UPS'. Some even go so far as to say so in the docs. Laser's are like AC units, major drain at wakeup. It's not the socket, it's the drain of the printer warming up combined with the lack of the UPS' battery to hold up the PC load under the momentary brownout it causes. Move the printer to it's own BREAKER as I said in my last post. Don't belive me ask an electrician and he will tell you to put in 2 circuits. On 2/14/2010 9:39 AM, Hunter, Gary wrote: IH Duncan, You may have read my response To Richard, I have confirmed the UPS battery is bad. But how can I test the socket without just switching it out? Thanks to both of you for your help. Thanks, Gary -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Power Issues Gary, Interesting problem. a) I think that your UPS is too small (in capacity and available wattage) for everything you have plugged into it. I'll assume your ups is the ES350G. It is only capable of 200W (?sustained?). Certainly your PC does not idle at 200W; still, when the printer comes on, the ups may not be able to react to the large load spike of the printer and still supply enough oomph for its' attached devices (PC, speakers, switches). I have noticed that my two oldest PCs that use last generation PSU's still record 120W-133W on their Back-Ups 1500LCD on startup. Both PCs typically idle at the 100W-115W level. By contrast, my three C2D machines w/new 600W psus rarely exceed 70W on startup, and, frequently idle in the 30W-40W range. These new +80 psus are much more efficient to my view. b) Your printer specs at 20W (sleep), 85W (awake), and, 510W (printing). That 510W is ~1/3 of the total available wattage of the duplex outlet (1800W). I'd put the printer on another power outlet (fused line) than the ups for startersas a test. JMHO. YMMV. Best, Duncan On 02/14/2010 11:07, Hunter, Gary wrote: Hi, I have a color laser printer (Brother HL-4040CDN) and an APC BACK_UPS ES 350 plugged into the same power outlet. A PC is hung off of the UPS along with some speakers, a harddrive and two switches. The PC is nothing special and has 450w PSU in it (can't remember the make but can look it up if it's important). So the problem is when the printer comes out of sleep mode it temporarily draws a lot more current and this causes the PC to shut down. I am assuming I have a problem with the UPS maybe a bad battery, but the UPS is not beeping or indicating it is bad in anyway. Am I correct in thinking the UPS is bad, or could it be a combination of a bad power outlet and a bad UPS? I am thinking when there is the increased current draw it delivers all the power to the top socket and the bottom doesn't get any. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Gary Hunter Enterpise Architect Travelport GDS T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 E: gary.hun...@travelport.com SITA: HDQOK1G Travelport Product Development Center 6901 S Havana St Centennial, CO 80112 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Power Issues
Yeah, no repeat the test with a good meter than logs high/low. Turn on the printer watch the voltage drop majorly! All this hypothesis about the outlet testing while it's plain the problem is as been stated: dead battery thus ups not able to make up for brown out caused by printer. On 2/14/2010 10:06 AM, Winterlight wrote: But how can I test the socket without just switching it out? It is not the outlet. But if you want to check it use a VU meter set at 200 AC VOLTS and put the positive and negative probes in the appropriate hot and neutral outlet holes... see 115 plus or minus a few? your good... now put the probe you plugged into the neutral into the ground slot... get the same reading?... you are correctly grounded. Do the same thing to the other outlet. They also make a plug in tester ( under 20 dollars), that building inspectors use to check for correct wiring, but it won't give you readings, just a good or a bad indicator. Thanks to both of you for your help. Thanks, Gary -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Power Issues Gary, Interesting problem. a) I think that your UPS is too small (in capacity and available wattage) for everything you have plugged into it. I'll assume your ups is the ES350G. It is only capable of 200W (?sustained?). Certainly your PC does not idle at 200W; still, when the printer comes on, the ups may not be able to react to the large load spike of the printer and still supply enough oomph for its' attached devices (PC, speakers, switches). I have noticed that my two oldest PCs that use last generation PSU's still record 120W-133W on their Back-Ups 1500LCD on startup. Both PCs typically idle at the 100W-115W level. By contrast, my three C2D machines w/new 600W psus rarely exceed 70W on startup, and, frequently idle in the 30W-40W range. These new +80 psus are much more efficient to my view. b) Your printer specs at 20W (sleep), 85W (awake), and, 510W (printing). That 510W is ~1/3 of the total available wattage of the duplex outlet (1800W). I'd put the printer on another power outlet (fused line) than the ups for startersas a test. JMHO. YMMV. Best, Duncan On 02/14/2010 11:07, Hunter, Gary wrote: Hi, I have a color laser printer (Brother HL-4040CDN) and an APC BACK_UPS ES 350 plugged into the same power outlet. A PC is hung off of the UPS along with some speakers, a harddrive and two switches. The PC is nothing special and has 450w PSU in it (can't remember the make but can look it up if it's important). So the problem is when the printer comes out of sleep mode it temporarily draws a lot more current and this causes the PC to shut down. I am assuming I have a problem with the UPS maybe a bad battery, but the UPS is not beeping or indicating it is bad in anyway. Am I correct in thinking the UPS is bad, or could it be a combination of a bad power outlet and a bad UPS? I am thinking when there is the increased current draw it delivers all the power to the top socket and the bottom doesn't get any. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Gary Hunter Enterpise Architect Travelport GDS T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 E: gary.hun...@travelport.com SITA: HDQOK1G Travelport Product Development Center 6901 S Havana St Centennial, CO 80112 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Power Issues
V * A = W 120 * 15 = 1800 80% of 1800W is about 1440W, the typically considered safe continuous load. This is also why as we rewire our house we're installing 20A circuits since it's nearly same price materials wise. Ask an electrician, no high drain devices on same breaker with computers. On 2/14/2010 2:34 PM, DSinc wrote: Gary, Please step back and have a good laugh at yourself. I have done this surge-only mistake many times!! LOL! And, even after doing the 1st time, I repeated that same mistake 2 more times.. :) You are NOT dumb! snip
