Re: [H] MS and WinXP?

2013-09-26 Thread DSinc

Christopher,
Thanks for your share. Yes, I believe I did have this round-robin. But, 
after leaving the PC on
all night, things have improved. MS shoved 6 updates at me-installed. 
Yes, I installed IE8because

I knew that IE6 was dead to Win Updates..
The WinXP CD I purchased state it was SP3. The old PC is now up and 
running well. And, I can
now get to Windows Update. I checked my 'Update History' and find that 
MS may have shoved/installed
some 162 patches on me. Seems likely because when I ran Defraggler (from 
the CCleaner folks) I noticed
that my tiny sliver of XP on the root partition is now up to ~30% of the 
root partition-almost 12GB.
Some big magichas taken place perhaps. Anyway, the old 'tst' PC is up 
and running again!

Duncan

On 09/26/2013 09:07, Christopher Fisk wrote:

A fresh install of Windows XP actually has problems with Windows update at
this point, especially if you're starting pre-SP2.  If you have Windows XP
with no service packs, you need to get a copy of SP1 or SP2 to install to
get Windows ready for SP3.  This may not be required, but I have had issues
in the past going from non-SP XP to SP3.  I'm not sure if this was due to a
requirement or just that I had issues once and now that's how I do it.  If
you have SP1 or SP2 included or installed you should download SP3
installing.  Once SP3 is installed you should use internet explorer 6 to
download firefox.  Once you download firefox you should use firefox to
download internet explorer 8 from microsoft.  Install IE8, then using IE8
start your windows update process.

I've had to do this a couple of times in the last month as I recycle old
computers and donate to families around town who either have no computer,
or it's REALLY old (Where a 5 year old PC is an upgrade).

Good Luck,


Christopher Fisk





Re: [H] MS and WinXP?

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Fisk
A fresh install of Windows XP actually has problems with Windows update at
this point, especially if you're starting pre-SP2.  If you have Windows XP
with no service packs, you need to get a copy of SP1 or SP2 to install to
get Windows ready for SP3.  This may not be required, but I have had issues
in the past going from non-SP XP to SP3.  I'm not sure if this was due to a
requirement or just that I had issues once and now that's how I do it.  If
you have SP1 or SP2 included or installed you should download SP3
installing.  Once SP3 is installed you should use internet explorer 6 to
download firefox.  Once you download firefox you should use firefox to
download internet explorer 8 from microsoft.  Install IE8, then using IE8
start your windows update process.

I've had to do this a couple of times in the last month as I recycle old
computers and donate to families around town who either have no computer,
or it's REALLY old (Where a 5 year old PC is an upgrade).

Good Luck,


Christopher Fisk


Re: [H] MS and WinXP?

2013-09-26 Thread DSinc

Gary,
Thanks for the new latest date. Excuse me. I am dealing with a rebuild 
of XP that gets to
and 'error' page when I select Start/Windows Update. It is a fresh from 
format install. I know
that there are a buzillion patches needed but I have no access to the 
normal /express/ and

/custom/ button screen. Most odd. So I asked.

No, I have no plans to continue XP unsupported. Been there, done that 
back in the 95/98se days.

Then I ran Win2000 to it's end also. I avoided Vista.
I do intend to upgrade my PCs to Win7pro prior to XP's 
decommissioning.Certainly, if somehow
the XP version I purchased recently is internally neutered/broken, I may 
yet again erase my root
partition and move on to Win7pro a bit earlier; even though this choice 
involves gutting the PC of

most of its' current hdw. I was trying to avoid this for a while longer.
Thank you again for the new info.
Best,
Duncan

On 09/26/2013 07:09, Gary Jackson wrote:

My understanding from a Microsoft website is that support ends on Apr 8,
2014http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx

If you do not want to run an unsupported OS, and do not want to upgrade to
something newer...what is there left for you to do ?  Just curious.

RegardsGary


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:27 PM
To: HWG
Subject: [H] MS and WinXP?

Has MS pushed up their schedule about WinXP?
I am working to an 02-2014 'plug-pull' datethat I believe I got from the
wise MS mavens here on our List.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8.1 right now. I do not own it yet.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8 right now. I do not own it yet.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W7 right now, even though I own it.

I am still working a HALissue of a C2D cpu that may have a dead core.
This is an old issue and I truly appreciate all the help I have received.
Sorry, nothing worked. So,.
I bought a supposedly old, clean, copy of WinXP. After 3wks of dicking with
it, I finally got it to erase the root partition and install itself. Funny,
the install never asked for the 'product key. Odd? I just trucked on. It
lives today. But, I am now stuck with no answer from MS Windows Update. Most
depressing.
Opinions, suggestions welcome.
Duncan









Re: [H] MS and WinXP?

2013-09-26 Thread Gary Jackson
My understanding from a Microsoft website is that support ends on Apr 8,
2014http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx

If you do not want to run an unsupported OS, and do not want to upgrade to
something newer...what is there left for you to do ?  Just curious.

RegardsGary


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:27 PM
To: HWG
Subject: [H] MS and WinXP?

Has MS pushed up their schedule about WinXP?
I am working to an 02-2014 'plug-pull' datethat I believe I got from the
wise MS mavens here on our List.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8.1 right now. I do not own it yet.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8 right now. I do not own it yet.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W7 right now, even though I own it.

I am still working a HALissue of a C2D cpu that may have a dead core.
This is an old issue and I truly appreciate all the help I have received.
Sorry, nothing worked. So,.
I bought a supposedly old, clean, copy of WinXP. After 3wks of dicking with
it, I finally got it to erase the root partition and install itself. Funny,
the install never asked for the 'product key. Odd? I just trucked on. It
lives today. But, I am now stuck with no answer from MS Windows Update. Most
depressing.
Opinions, suggestions welcome.
Duncan






[H] MS and WinXP?

2013-09-25 Thread DSinc

Has MS pushed up their schedule about WinXP?
I am working to an 02-2014 'plug-pull' datethat I believe I
got from the wise MS mavens here on our List.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8.1 right now. I do not own it yet.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8 right now. I do not own it yet.
No. I do not wish to upgrade to W7 right now, even though I own it.

I am still working a HALissue of a C2D cpu that may have a dead core.
This is an old issue and I truly appreciate all the help I have 
received. Sorry,

nothing worked. So,.
I bought a supposedly old, clean, copy of WinXP. After 3wks of dicking 
with it,
I finally got it to erase the root partition and install itself. Funny, 
the install never
asked for the 'product key. Odd? I just trucked on. It lives today. But, 
I am now

stuck with no answer from MS Windows Update. Most depressing.
Opinions, suggestions welcome.
Duncan