Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
Never mention morality as an issue when dealing with big co's like cable, phone, sat, etc... it demeans the term. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 02:51 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Which is probably a violation of the agreement with any of the Satellite providers also. I forgot to mention that. That's an issue he has to deal with. I simply provide the tools to allow people to do things. Legal and moral issues are outside of my purview. :) T
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 02:51 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Which is probably a violation of the agreement with any of the Satellite providers also. I forgot to mention that. That's an issue he has to deal with. I simply provide the tools to allow people to do things. Legal and moral issues are outside of my purview. :) T
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 08:57 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: >At 12:28 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: >>Actually with the latency involved with satellite it will be about the same >>as dial up. That's just my opinion based on experience. > >Ouch. You mean the ads are lying? :) "100 times faster than dial-up!" > >T Web browsing speeds feel only slightly faster than dialup, but when you go to download a file, you definitely see the difference. It should still be faster than 19.2. Maybe Firefox w/ a prefetch extension would be a good addition to satellite. Julian
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 04:44 AM 2/15/2006, W. D. wrote: >Satellite has a spotty record at best. On good days, when it >actually works, you can get about 128 kbps. > >So, to create a wireless network with unreliable technology >is probably an futile exercise. I hope it works >for him, but he'll probably disappointed. My neighbor has Starband. Latency is a bitch, but the speed isn't bad. They often get download speeds of 50-80KB/s, and the more expensive service plan has even more bandwidth. I set them up with a home wireless network, and everything works fine. The only difference with what Thane wants to do is scale. It should be pretty easy. I've been thinking about approaching them about sharing their connection with me. Julian
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
The latency is primarily due to the speed of light. The geosyncronous satllites hosting the service are 35,000 km away (roughly). So to send a packet one way from your house to the ISP's routers on the ground is a distance of around 70,000 km. At 3.0x10^6 m/s that takes the packet 0.25 seconds, or 250ms just to get to the gateway into the internet. Add the time it takes to get to the destination server, lets say 100ms on the low end. That is 350ms for your packet to go one way, or 700ms both ways. With no network lag :) -- Brian
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
Which is probably a violation of the agreement with any of the Satellite providers also. I forgot to mention that. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: It would seem to me that a provide would want to sell several to all ten houses, not to just one. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: :: I know a guy who lives in the boonies in a cluster of about ten :: houses (all within 500 feet of each other.) He was thinking of :: getting satellite internet to his house and connect it to a router :: and put an omni-directional antenna on his house to share the service :: with the houses within range. Does anyone have experience with :: something like this and can you recommend a provider, equipment, etc? :: :: T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
On a download of any size yes, but surfing? No. Think about the way the packets will travel and you'll see what I mean. From him to Sat back to earth then to the server and back. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 12:28 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Actually with the latency involved with satellite it will be about the same as dial up. That's just my opinion based on experience. Ouch. You mean the ads are lying? :) "100 times faster than dial-up!" T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
It would seem to me that a provide would want to sell several to all ten houses, not to just one. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: :: I know a guy who lives in the boonies in a cluster of about ten :: houses (all within 500 feet of each other.) He was thinking of :: getting satellite internet to his house and connect it to a router :: and put an omni-directional antenna on his house to share the service :: with the houses within range. Does anyone have experience with :: something like this and can you recommend a provider, equipment, etc? :: :: T
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
They are probably true from a pure speed perspective. But once you add in latency the "user experience" from what I have read is very similar to dialup. On 2/15/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:28 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: > >Actually with the latency involved with satellite it will be about > >the same as dial up. That's just my opinion based on experience. > > Ouch. You mean the ads are lying? :) "100 times faster than dial-up!" > > T > > -- Brian
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 12:28 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Actually with the latency involved with satellite it will be about the same as dial up. That's just my opinion based on experience. Ouch. You mean the ads are lying? :) "100 times faster than dial-up!" T
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
Actually with the latency involved with satellite it will be about the same as dial up. That's just my opinion based on experience. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 11:57 AM 15/02/2006, 007 wrote: Because of latency issues with Satellite, it is recommended that the service be used for Internet (burst packet services). For Telnet and some UDP services, it may not be the best solution. He just wants email and websurfing, but faster than a 19.2 modem. T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
RE: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 11:57 AM 15/02/2006, 007 wrote: Because of latency issues with Satellite, it is recommended that the service be used for Internet (burst packet services). For Telnet and some UDP services, it may not be the best solution. He just wants email and websurfing, but faster than a 19.2 modem. T
RE: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
Because of latency issues with Satellite, it is recommended that the service be used for Internet (burst packet services). For Telnet and some UDP services, it may not be the best solution. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:12 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet At 08:44 AM 15/02/2006, W. D. wrote: >Satellite has a spotty record at best. On good days, when it >actually works, you can get about 128 kbps. He's getting 19.2K dial-up right now, so he's willing to try Satellite. :) T
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 08:44 AM 15/02/2006, W. D. wrote: Satellite has a spotty record at best. On good days, when it actually works, you can get about 128 kbps. He's getting 19.2K dial-up right now, so he's willing to try Satellite. :) T
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
At 05:36 2/15/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: >I know a guy who lives in the boonies in a cluster of about ten >houses (all within 500 feet of each other.) He was thinking of >getting satellite internet to his house and connect it to a router >and put an omni-directional antenna on his house to share the service >with the houses within range. Does anyone have experience with >something like this and can you recommend a provider, equipment, etc? > >T Satellite has a spotty record at best. On good days, when it actually works, you can get about 128 kbps. So, to create a wireless network with unreliable technology is probably an futile exercise. I hope it works for him, but he'll probably disappointed. Start Here to Find It Fast! -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
[H] Satellite to wireless Internet
I know a guy who lives in the boonies in a cluster of about ten houses (all within 500 feet of each other.) He was thinking of getting satellite internet to his house and connect it to a router and put an omni-directional antenna on his house to share the service with the houses within range. Does anyone have experience with something like this and can you recommend a provider, equipment, etc? T
