Re: [H] Test01

2009-06-09 Thread Gary VanderMolen

Your math is a bit off. A 5.1MB binary file will be more like 7MB by the time
it is encoded for mail transmission.
7MB=7000KB= 56000Kb. Divide that by 191 and you get 293 seconds, or
about 4.9 minutes.
Also, many ISPs have a limit on outgoing message size, usually somewhere
in the range of 2-20MB.

Some antivirus programs still route email through their proxy even when
scanning is disabled. This can cause a server time-out with large attachments.

Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


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From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:42 PM
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Test01


OK, I can now send attachments.
Sort of.
1st test was an imbedded picture (003.jpg) 924,439bytes.
I did get this one back!
But, it took a long time to send this file.
Yes, I do only have 256Kbps (well, maybe like 191Kbps) outbound on my wire. 
Yes, I think I've done the math!

So, I move on to Test02. Test02 is a 5.1MB dot.wmv
(Flashlight.wmv) file. (Interesting file for my family!)
Math shows ~20-21sec to send.
IT fails/Times out ~12sec with my new setup. Expected; but still testing. I will go diddle w/timeout settings..in TBird...and 
re-test.


I have disabled my A/V from scanning OUTBound business.

Other than my 256Kbps limit, is there anywhere else I should peek/poke?
Yes, I am still learning TBird.

Please, for all of you I do not do local Email business, I don't need your opinion. I already know you do email via other 
channels I do NOT use.


I sincerely apologize for my last thread start. Never my intention to start a 
skirmish about how BEST to do email
I think WE do what we choose to do. Whatever.
Thanks,
Duncan 




Re: [H] Test01

2009-06-09 Thread DSinc

Gary,
OK. You are correct. My math was way off now that I see your suggestion. 
Sorry. In future testing I will increase my file sizes by ~40% prior to 
any timing calcs should I ask another question in this thread.


My only observation ATM is that Eudora used to send quickly without 
fail. By contrast, Thunderbird visually seems much slower.
Because I can no longer get Eudora to work with the new required server 
settings, I do not seem to be able to do an A-B comparison.  I can only 
use 9 years of Eudora experience against ~6 months learning Thunderbird. 
Agreed. Not quite scientific; but, what I have ATM.


In the past, I've asked all people to limit their inbounds here to 2MB 
or less. Most have acquiesced to this; still have one old friend that 
often forgetsstill!... :)


Understand the proxy business, but, I am told that my current version of 
ESET (v2.7) does not use a proxy. It links into the windows winsock to 
do its' job.  I believe I have disabled outbound mail scanning by ESET 
for my testing.  I'm also told that ESET's V3.0 and v4.0 now DO use an 
internal proxy to do their tasks (disconnected from the windows winsock 
business).


Thank you for your clarification!
Best,
Duncan


Gary VanderMolen wrote:
Your math is a bit off. A 5.1MB binary file will be more like 7MB by the 
time

it is encoded for mail transmission.
7MB=7000KB= 56000Kb. Divide that by 191 and you get 293 seconds, or
about 4.9 minutes.
Also, many ISPs have a limit on outgoing message size, usually somewhere
in the range of 2-20MB.

Some antivirus programs still route email through their proxy even when
scanning is disabled. This can cause a server time-out with large 
attachments.


Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


--
From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:42 PM
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Test01


OK, I can now send attachments.
Sort of.
1st test was an imbedded picture (003.jpg) 924,439bytes.
I did get this one back!
But, it took a long time to send this file.
Yes, I do only have 256Kbps (well, maybe like 191Kbps) outbound on my 
wire. Yes, I think I've done the math!


So, I move on to Test02. Test02 is a 5.1MB dot.wmv
(Flashlight.wmv) file. (Interesting file for my family!)
Math shows ~20-21sec to send.
IT fails/Times out ~12sec with my new setup. Expected; but still 
testing. I will go diddle w/timeout settings..in TBird...and re-test.


I have disabled my A/V from scanning OUTBound business.

Other than my 256Kbps limit, is there anywhere else I should peek/poke?
Yes, I am still learning TBird.

Please, for all of you I do not do local Email business, I don't 
need your opinion. I already know you do email via other channels I do 
NOT use.


I sincerely apologize for my last thread start. Never my 
intention to start a skirmish about how BEST to do email

I think WE do what we choose to do. Whatever.
Thanks,
Duncan 





[H] Test01

2009-06-08 Thread DSinc

OK, I can now send attachments.
Sort of.
1st test was an imbedded picture (003.jpg) 924,439bytes.
I did get this one back!
But, it took a long time to send this file.
Yes, I do only have 256Kbps (well, maybe like 191Kbps) outbound on my 
wire. Yes, I think I've done the math!


So, I move on to Test02. Test02 is a 5.1MB dot.wmv
(Flashlight.wmv) file. (Interesting file for my family!)
Math shows ~20-21sec to send.
IT fails/Times out ~12sec with my new setup. Expected; but still 
testing. I will go diddle w/timeout settings..in TBird...and re-test.


I have disabled my A/V from scanning OUTBound business.

Other than my 256Kbps limit, is there anywhere else I should peek/poke?
Yes, I am still learning TBird.

Please, for all of you I do not do local Email business, I don't 
need your opinion. I already know you do email via other channels I do 
NOT use.


I sincerely apologize for my last thread start. Never my 
intention to start a skirmish about how BEST to do email

I think WE do what we choose to do. Whatever.
Thanks,
Duncan