Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-25 Thread chuck


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From: Rick Glazier(Gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [H] W98se questions



Chuck, Just a quick question...
When you install XP clean, do you start with SP2 on the CD
(integrated or embedded) or are you using olders CDs and (or)
talking about re-installs...



Absolutely! I would use nothing less than a Microsoft Windows XP CD with SP2 
slipstreamed. In fact the ones I use now claim to be with SP2b, whatever 
that means. That is the very problem when the end user does their own 
reinstallations, especially when they use the computer manufacturer's 
restore CD. They miss any service packs that came out later. I am convinced 
that you get a cleaner job with both or all of your service packs 
slipstreamed. You simply do not get this when you do it yourself using the 
computer manufacturer's reinstall process, if it is older than the latest 
service pack.


Note that I have about 2 GB used after installation of the Windows XP CD 
with SP2b slipstreamed. It is after I apply the Auto Patcher application and 
the rest of the Microsoft updates that I see around 7 GB used. But with 320 
GB hard drives being commonplace now (you name branders, don't even think 
about it, as you get far less) on custom built quality computers, surely you 
can spare a measly 80 GB partition to host your operating system and 3 other 
80's for your data.


Chuck 



Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-25 Thread Rick Glazier\(Gmail\)

Thanks for the clarification.
I guess I am just used to looking at the re-install figures of
a bare, unpatched, clean install of Win98SE, and the fact
that my Image on that still fits on a single CD-R. grin.

I'll have to clean up the trash, and see what that system logs
in as after fully patched and running...

 Rick Glazier


From: andrewscomputerservices

When you install XP clean, do you start with SP2 on the CD
(integrated or embedded) or are you using olders CDs and (or)
talking about re-installs...



Absolutely!
clipped, 

surely you can spare a measly 80 GB partition to host your operating system

Clipped




Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-24 Thread Rick Glazier\(Gmail\)

Chuck, Just a quick question...
When you install XP clean, do you start with SP2 on the CD
(integrated or embedded) or are you using olders CDs and (or)
talking about re-installs...

I have not used an XP-Gold, or XP-SP1 CD for ANYTHING for quite a
long time...
Patching XP up to SP1 or SP2 ON the HD was reported to cause the
exact problem you are talking about...  I used slipstreaming until I started
getting the XP-SP2 OS CDs in...  Note: I have only used (or seen) FPP
or small-OEM type disks...

TIA,Rick Glazier

From: andrewscomputerservices
Just to give you an idea of how extensive the updates are for XP, I have 
about 2 GB of space used on Drive C after I install XP. After I update it I 
have around 7 GB of space used on Drive C. This is relative, of course.


Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-23 Thread chuck


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From: dhs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: [H] W98se questions




Is there anyone on the list that can still discuss W98se?
I'd like to trade questions offline/backchannel.



The best booster I have found for clean installs of Windows 98 SE and 
Millennium is the Security Update CD from Microsoft dated February, 2004. 
I run this comprehensive automatic update (comparable to Auto Patcher for 
Windows XP) and then I proceed to download the rest of the updates from 
Microsoft. It would take a very long time to download all of the updates for 
98SE, Me or XP from Microsoft. I am very thankful for boosters such as these 
I have mentioned.


Just to give you an idea of how extensive the updates are for XP, I have 
about 2 GB of space used on Drive C after I install XP. After I update it I 
have around 7 GB of space used on Drive C. This is relative, of course. I 
would guess that 98SE uses about 500 MB freshly installed and around 700 MB 
after being updated and Millennium around 700 MB when freshly installed and 
around 1.2 GB after being updated. It seems the space required for all of 
the updates is far more space than is required for the initial install.


Chuck




[H] W98se questions

2006-12-21 Thread dhs



Is there anyone on the list that can still discuss W98se?
I'd like to trade questions offline/backchannel.

I've built a W98se machine to play some old games, but 
need to know what's neccessary for a solid build.
The system I have is very strange and I'm seeing behavior 
I never saw back when I did use the OS.  (But, as I probably 
have Old Timer's Disease (OTD), anything is possible!)

I did load the basic W98se and then added 'only' the unofficial 
sp2.1a patch (sesp21a-en.exe).  Does this bring W98se to full 
glory, or, do I really need to go thru the gruesome task of doing 
the 10-15 patches from M$ that I have archived before I use the 
unofficial sp2.1a?
TNX,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Duncan




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Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-21 Thread JRS

Man, have not even looked at 98 for years, but check out this page...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp

Seems to have all downloads for Win98 still listed..  :)








Is there anyone on the list that can still discuss W98se?
I'd like to trade questions offline/backchannel.

I've built a W98se machine to play some old games, but 
need to know what's neccessary for a solid build.
The system I have is very strange and I'm seeing behavior 
I never saw back when I did use the OS.  (But, as I probably 
have Old Timer's Disease (OTD), anything is possible!)

I did load the basic W98se and then added 'only' the unofficial 
sp2.1a patch (sesp21a-en.exe).  Does this bring W98se to full 
glory, or, do I really need to go thru the gruesome task of doing 
the 10-15 patches from M$ that I have archived before I use the 
unofficial sp2.1a?
TNX,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Duncan




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