Re: [H] Weird PC problem. - update
Me again. I just got the system from the woman tonight. One thing, it was DUSTY! After blowing out the system, I powered it up. What happens is that when going in to non-safe mode, after the loading XP window, the screen blanks for about 10 seconds, then the signal to the monitor cuts off. After another 10-15 seconds, the system reboots. It will boot into safe mode ok. In safe mode, I modified it so that it will not reboot on a blue screen. When I am in safe mode, I cannot view any events in the event viewer and the device manager shows nothing. Any ideas? It does blue screen now with a message something like: error seems to be caused by the following file: nv4_disp. I am researching this error now. Seems to be sort of common. The stop code in case anyone is interested is: 0x00EA (0x870F8908, 0x86DCA108, 0xF7AD0CBC, 0x0001) I have yet to scan the drive, but that is in the works. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC problem. Thanks for the reply. I will probably scan the system and check the video settings and drivers. I'll let everyone know what I found. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:09 AM To: Bobby Heid Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC problem. Hello Bobby, Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 9:06:41 PM, you wrote: Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? I doubt that's an infection nor a result of a password bypass unless it wasn't obtained from a credible source. I would think this is a driver issue esp where everything is fine in safe mode. Have you tried having them reload the drivers for the video card? See if there are any gamma tweaks going on also. Report findings. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Weird PC problem. - update
Uninstall the video driver while safe mode. Reboot, reinstall with fresh copy of video driver. On 1/17/10, Bobby Heid bh...@sc.rr.com wrote: Me again. I just got the system from the woman tonight. One thing, it was DUSTY! After blowing out the system, I powered it up. What happens is that when going in to non-safe mode, after the loading XP window, the screen blanks for about 10 seconds, then the signal to the monitor cuts off. After another 10-15 seconds, the system reboots. It will boot into safe mode ok. In safe mode, I modified it so that it will not reboot on a blue screen. When I am in safe mode, I cannot view any events in the event viewer and the device manager shows nothing. Any ideas? It does blue screen now with a message something like: error seems to be caused by the following file: nv4_disp. I am researching this error now. Seems to be sort of common. The stop code in case anyone is interested is: 0x00EA (0x870F8908, 0x86DCA108, 0xF7AD0CBC, 0x0001) I have yet to scan the drive, but that is in the works. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC problem. Thanks for the reply. I will probably scan the system and check the video settings and drivers. I'll let everyone know what I found. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:09 AM To: Bobby Heid Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC problem. Hello Bobby, Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 9:06:41 PM, you wrote: Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? I doubt that's an infection nor a result of a password bypass unless it wasn't obtained from a credible source. I would think this is a driver issue esp where everything is fine in safe mode. Have you tried having them reload the drivers for the video card? See if there are any gamma tweaks going on also. Report findings. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... -- Sent from my mobile device Richard E. Quilhot C.N.A. quilh...@gmail.com
Re: [H] Weird PC problem. - update
At 09:25 PM 1/17/2010, you wrote: Me again. I just got the system from the woman tonight. One thing, it was DUSTY! After blowing out the system, I powered it up. What happens is that when going in to non-safe mode, after the loading XP window, the screen blanks for about 10 seconds, then the signal to the monitor cuts off. After another 10-15 seconds, the system reboots. It will boot into safe mode ok. In safe mode, I modified it so that it will not reboot on a blue screen. When I am in safe mode, I cannot view any events in the event viewer and the device manager shows nothing. Any ideas? It does blue screen now with a message something like: error seems to be caused by the following file: nv4_disp. I am researching this error now. Seems to be sort of common. The stop code in case anyone is interested is: 0x00EA (0x870F8908, 0x86DCA108, 0xF7AD0CBC, 0x0001) I have yet to scan the drive, but that is in the works. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Bobby Check here: http://www.christopherjason.com/personal-computing/nvidia-nv4disp-problem/ David L. Gabler 1719 Lindy Lane Conroe, Texas 77301-4019 Home: 936-756-4614 Mobil: 936-537-5574 ICQ # 123822 E-Mail upsd...@suddenlink.net
Re: [H] Weird PC problem.
I would first try to see if it could be some sort of virus/Trojan/spyware/etc first. Scan the system for them. I'd do this as an external drive on another working known system. If nothing is found then look at the Video Drivers. Reinstall the video drivers. If this does not work it could be the video card is giving up the ghost at high resolutions. I've seen this before and it was the Video Drivers in my situation. But, Virus Scan first. Good luck, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:07 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Weird PC problem. Hey, One of my wife's friends called tonight with a problem that I have never heard of. This PC (that I have not seen yet) is pretty old (she thinks it could be over 10 years old). She told me that it had been in the shop about 3 years ago and had been upgraded to XP, so it must have had new hardware put in it. Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. One other possibly key piece of information is that apparently, her son had tried to get around her XP password with some sort of utility (she did not know what he tried). She thinks that this stuff did not start happening until after he tried that stuff. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] Weird PC problem.
Hello Bobby, Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 9:06:41 PM, you wrote: Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? I doubt that's an infection nor a result of a password bypass unless it wasn't obtained from a credible source. I would think this is a driver issue esp where everything is fine in safe mode. Have you tried having them reload the drivers for the video card? See if there are any gamma tweaks going on also. Report findings. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Weird PC problem.
Thanks Tim. I will have her bring her PC by and scan it and check the video drivers. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lider Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC problem. I would first try to see if it could be some sort of virus/Trojan/spyware/etc first. Scan the system for them. I'd do this as an external drive on another working known system. If nothing is found then look at the Video Drivers. Reinstall the video drivers. If this does not work it could be the video card is giving up the ghost at high resolutions. I've seen this before and it was the Video Drivers in my situation. But, Virus Scan first. Good luck, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:07 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Weird PC problem. Hey, One of my wife's friends called tonight with a problem that I have never heard of. This PC (that I have not seen yet) is pretty old (she thinks it could be over 10 years old). She told me that it had been in the shop about 3 years ago and had been upgraded to XP, so it must have had new hardware put in it. Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. One other possibly key piece of information is that apparently, her son had tried to get around her XP password with some sort of utility (she did not know what he tried). She thinks that this stuff did not start happening until after he tried that stuff. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] Weird PC problem.
Thanks for the reply. I will probably scan the system and check the video settings and drivers. I'll let everyone know what I found. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:09 AM To: Bobby Heid Subject: Re: [H] Weird PC problem. Hello Bobby, Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 9:06:41 PM, you wrote: Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? I doubt that's an infection nor a result of a password bypass unless it wasn't obtained from a credible source. I would think this is a driver issue esp where everything is fine in safe mode. Have you tried having them reload the drivers for the video card? See if there are any gamma tweaks going on also. Report findings. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
[H] Weird PC problem.
Hey, One of my wife's friends called tonight with a problem that I have never heard of. This PC (that I have not seen yet) is pretty old (she thinks it could be over 10 years old). She told me that it had been in the shop about 3 years ago and had been upgraded to XP, so it must have had new hardware put in it. Anyway, when booting up and it is showing the XP loading screen, the screen starts blinking on and off. She says that it might stay off 2-3 seconds at a go. Even after logging in, when moving the mouse, it causes the screen to blink off. She says that it does not blink on and off when she goes into safe mode. One other possibly key piece of information is that apparently, her son had tried to get around her XP password with some sort of utility (she did not know what he tried). She thinks that this stuff did not start happening until after he tried that stuff. So, could it be some sort of infection? Maybe the PS or video card? She replaced the monitor and it still does the same thing. Or maybe a driver issue of some sort since it works in safe mode? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bobby