[H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Winterlight
I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV 
10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall 
and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I 
have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I 
got for free last year, but ZA has become so  annoying in the last 
couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So 
what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?




Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Tim Lider
Hello,

As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they
used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you
need to pay yearly subscription.

As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches websites and
even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :)

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
 
 I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV
 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall
 and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I
 have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I
 got for free last year, but ZA has become so  annoying in the last
 couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So
 what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?
 




Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Scott Sipe
In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security software. 
Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install programs temporarily to do 
a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No 
antivirus -- but then I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus 
software. Just keep the system patched, etc.

Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no.

What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p

Scott

On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote:

 Hello,
 
 As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they
 used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you
 need to pay yearly subscription.
 
 As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches websites and
 even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :)
 
 Regards,
 
 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
 
 I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV
 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall
 and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I
 have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I
 got for free last year, but ZA has become so  annoying in the last
 couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So
 what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?
 
 
 



Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Tim Lider
Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and works pretty
well in tests I do at work.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com


 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:58 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
 
 In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security
 software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install programs
 temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used
 Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then I've never really run
 my personal computer with antivirus software. Just keep the system
 patched, etc.
 
 Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no.
 
 What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p
 
 Scott
 
 On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know
 they
  used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is
 you
  need to pay yearly subscription.
 
  As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches
 websites and
  even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :)
 
  Regards,
 
  Tim Lider
  Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
  Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
  http://www.adv-data.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight
  Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
 
  I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV
  10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall
  and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I
  have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I
  got for free last year, but ZA has become so  annoying in the last
  couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So
  what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?
 
 
 
 




Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Winterlight
On the computer where my data is I do use AV, Spy and Mall ware and 
some sort of software firewall to warn me about out go. But on the 
rest of my PCs I run clean .. just what the OS has, because they have 
special purpose and I don't do anything dangerous with them, in fact 
I rarely use a web browser... if something does goes wrong I just 
restore the image file. On my laptop I run a lot of stuff from a VM 
through a VPN and start over every day.


At 09:58 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party 
security software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll 
install programs temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- 
last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then 
I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus software. 
Just keep the system patched, etc.


Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no.

What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p

Scott

On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote:

 Hello,

 As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they
 used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you
 need to pay yearly subscription.

 As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches 
websites and

 even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :)

 Regards,

 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

 I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV
 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall
 and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I
 have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I
 got for free last year, but ZA has become so  annoying in the last
 couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So
 what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?







Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Joe User
Hello Scott,

Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 11:58:07 AM, you wrote:

 In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party
 security software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll
 install programs temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean --
 last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then
 I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus software.
 Just keep the system patched, etc.

 Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no.

 What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p

 Scott


I haven't used anti-virus, anti-spyware, or third party firewalls for
a number of years now. I don't even patch unless I am effected
directly with the issue. I do my service packs though. Been fine for
years. What's my secret? I will not use Microsoft for email or web and
I am behind a router.

I know people say 'omg you don't do what you are supposed to - run this
security suite and patch everyday or you will get viruses'. Guess
what. I'm clean and doing fine. Can everyone run like this? Maybe not
but I am sure the more savvy users here can. Have to use your heads.


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...



Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Brian Weeden

I use MSE and really like it.

---
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-01-05, at 11:04 AM, Tim Lider timli...@adv-data.com wrote:

Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and  
works pretty

well in tests I do at work.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:58 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security
software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install  
programs

temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used
Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then I've never really run
my personal computer with antivirus software. Just keep the system
patched, etc.

Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no.

What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p

Scott

On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote:


Hello,

As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I  
know

they
used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part  
is

you

need to pay yearly subscription.

As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches

websites and

even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :)

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV
10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall
and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I
have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version  
which I

got for free last year, but ZA has become so  annoying in the last
couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore.  
So

what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?











Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread JRS
I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw against 
Norton and McAfee, catching more
virii than either of the others.

 

 
 Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and works pretty
 well in tests I do at work.
 
 Regards,
 
 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com
 
 


Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Brian Weeden
MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and  
lightweight/unobtrusive.


---
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS stei...@pacbell.net wrote:

I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw  
against Norton and McAfee, catching more

virii than either of the others.





Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and  
works pretty

well in tests I do at work.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com




Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Anthony A. Riederer
I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising.
Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it. 

Tony
-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and  
lightweight/unobtrusive.

---
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS stei...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw  
 against Norton and McAfee, catching more
 virii than either of the others.




 Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and  
 works pretty
 well in tests I do at work.

 Regards,

 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com





Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Resnick

Lightweight and Free are certainly good.
But, does anyone have any feedback on how effective MSE is compared 
to some of the other AV/AM progies?


-Mike


At 03:40 PM 1/5/2010, Anthony A. Riederer wrote:

I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising.
Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it.

Tony
-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and
lightweight/unobtrusive.

---
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS stei...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw
 against Norton and McAfee, catching more
 virii than either of the others.




 Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and
 works pretty
 well in tests I do at work.

 Regards,

 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com





__
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will 
not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread tmservo
I've been ple*santly surprised by its ability to remove infection if installed 
on a hosed box.  That to me is always a tough test
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Resnick mike...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:07:44 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

Lightweight and Free are certainly good.
But, does anyone have any feedback on how effective MSE is compared 
to some of the other AV/AM progies?

-Mike


At 03:40 PM 1/5/2010, Anthony A. Riederer wrote:
I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising.
Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it.

Tony
-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and
lightweight/unobtrusive.

---
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS stei...@pacbell.net wrote:

  I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw
  against Norton and McAfee, catching more
  virii than either of the others.
 
 
 
 
  Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and
  works pretty
  well in tests I do at work.
 
  Regards,
 
  Tim Lider
  Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
  Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
  http://www.adv-data.com
 
 


__
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will 
not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Benjamin Franklin


Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Stan Zaske
Free and unobtrusive yes but the game plan is to try to take market 
share and then start charging for it. Still while it's free and works 
well I'll use it.




On 1/5/2010 2:40 PM, Anthony A. Riederer wrote:

I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising.
Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it.

Tony
-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and
lightweight/unobtrusive.

---
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRSstei...@pacbell.net  wrote:

   

I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw
against Norton and McAfee, catching more
virii than either of the others.



 

Wow!  At least get Microsoft Security Essentials.  Its free and
works pretty
well in tests I do at work.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com


   


   




Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall

2010-01-05 Thread Gary VanderMolen

I definitely 2nd that opinion. I hate all the 'false positive'
warning pop-ups you get from the third party security programs.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)

--
From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com

MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and  
lightweight/unobtrusive.