Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
I definitely 2nd that opinion. I hate all the 'false positive' warning pop-ups you get from the third party security programs. Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -- From: "Brian Weeden" MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and lightweight/unobtrusive.
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
Free and unobtrusive yes but the game plan is to try to take market share and then start charging for it. Still while it's free and works well I'll use it. On 1/5/2010 2:40 PM, Anthony A. Riederer wrote: I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising. Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and lightweight/unobtrusive. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS wrote: I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw against Norton and McAfee, catching more virii than either of the others. Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and works pretty well in tests I do at work. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
I've been ple*santly surprised by its ability to remove infection if installed on a hosed box. That to me is always a tough test Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Resnick Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:07:44 To: Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall Lightweight and Free are certainly good. But, does anyone have any feedback on how effective MSE is compared to some of the other AV/AM progies? -Mike At 03:40 PM 1/5/2010, Anthony A. Riederer wrote: >I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising. >Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it. > >Tony >-Original Message- >From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com >[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden >Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM >To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall > >MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and >lightweight/unobtrusive. > >--- >Brian > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS wrote: > > > I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw > > against Norton and McAfee, catching more > > virii than either of the others. > > > > > > > >> > >> Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and > >> works pretty > >> well in tests I do at work. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Tim Lider > >> Sr. Data Recovery Specialist > >> Advanced Data Solutions, LLC > >> http://www.adv-data.com > >> > >> __ "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
Lightweight and Free are certainly good. But, does anyone have any feedback on how effective MSE is compared to some of the other AV/AM progies? -Mike At 03:40 PM 1/5/2010, Anthony A. Riederer wrote: I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising. Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and lightweight/unobtrusive. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS wrote: > I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw > against Norton and McAfee, catching more > virii than either of the others. > > > >> >> Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and >> works pretty >> well in tests I do at work. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tim Lider >> Sr. Data Recovery Specialist >> Advanced Data Solutions, LLC >> http://www.adv-data.com >> >> __ "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
I have to agree here. Which with a Microsoft product is surprising. Lightweight and free. Who would have thunk it. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and lightweight/unobtrusive. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS wrote: > I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw > against Norton and McAfee, catching more > virii than either of the others. > > > >> >> Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and >> works pretty >> well in tests I do at work. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tim Lider >> Sr. Data Recovery Specialist >> Advanced Data Solutions, LLC >> http://www.adv-data.com >> >>
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
MSE has two big features that are important to me: free and lightweight/unobtrusive. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2010-01-05, at 11:37 AM, JRS wrote: I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw against Norton and McAfee, catching more virii than either of the others. Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and works pretty well in tests I do at work. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
I've had good luck with MSE as well, and it did well in tests I saw against Norton and McAfee, catching more virii than either of the others. > > Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and works pretty > well in tests I do at work. > > Regards, > > Tim Lider > Sr. Data Recovery Specialist > Advanced Data Solutions, LLC > http://www.adv-data.com > >
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
I use MSE and really like it. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2010-01-05, at 11:04 AM, "Tim Lider" wrote: Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and works pretty well in tests I do at work. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:58 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install programs temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus software. Just keep the system patched, etc. Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no. What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p Scott On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote: Hello, As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you need to pay yearly subscription. As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches websites and even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :) Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I got for free last year, but ZA has become so annoying in the last couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
Hello Scott, Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 11:58:07 AM, you wrote: > In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party > security software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll > install programs temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- > last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then > I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus software. > Just keep the system patched, etc. > Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no. > What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p > Scott I haven't used anti-virus, anti-spyware, or third party firewalls for a number of years now. I don't even patch unless I am effected directly with the issue. I do my service packs though. Been fine for years. What's my secret? I will not use Microsoft for email or web and I am behind a router. I know people say 'omg you don't do what you are supposed to - run this security suite and patch everyday or you will get viruses'. Guess what. I'm clean and doing fine. Can everyone run like this? Maybe not but I am sure the more savvy users here can. Have to use your heads. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
On the computer where my data is I do use AV, Spy and Mall ware and some sort of software firewall to warn me about out go. But on the rest of my PCs I run clean .. just what the OS has, because they have special purpose and I don't do anything dangerous with them, in fact I rarely use a web browser... if something does goes wrong I just restore the image file. On my laptop I run a lot of stuff from a VM through a VPN and start over every day. At 09:58 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote: In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install programs temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus software. Just keep the system patched, etc. Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no. What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p Scott On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote: > Hello, > > As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they > used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you > need to pay yearly subscription. > > As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches websites and > even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :) > > Regards, > > Tim Lider > Sr. Data Recovery Specialist > Advanced Data Solutions, LLC > http://www.adv-data.com > >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight >> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall >> >> I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV >> 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall >> and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I >> have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I >> got for free last year, but ZA has become so annoying in the last >> couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So >> what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware? >> > >
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
Wow! At least get Microsoft Security Essentials. Its free and works pretty well in tests I do at work. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:58 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall > > In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security > software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install programs > temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used > Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then I've never really run > my personal computer with antivirus software. Just keep the system > patched, etc. > > Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no. > > What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p > > Scott > > On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know > they > > used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is > you > > need to pay yearly subscription. > > > > As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches > websites and > > even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :) > > > > Regards, > > > > Tim Lider > > Sr. Data Recovery Specialist > > Advanced Data Solutions, LLC > > http://www.adv-data.com > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM > >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > >> Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall > >> > >> I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV > >> 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall > >> and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I > >> have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I > >> got for free last year, but ZA has become so annoying in the last > >> couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So > >> what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware? > >> > > > > >
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
In recent years I've pretty much stopped using any 3rd party security software. Builtin firewall. No spyware software (I'll install programs temporarily to do a scan and make sure I'm clean -- last time I used Malwarebytes I think). No antivirus -- but then I've never really run my personal computer with antivirus software. Just keep the system patched, etc. Work computers--yes to spyware/virus software, personal no. What's the consensus, am I playing with fire? :p Scott On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Tim Lider wrote: > Hello, > > As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they > used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you > need to pay yearly subscription. > > As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches websites and > even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :) > > Regards, > > Tim Lider > Sr. Data Recovery Specialist > Advanced Data Solutions, LLC > http://www.adv-data.com > >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight >> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall >> >> I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV >> 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall >> and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I >> have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I >> got for free last year, but ZA has become so annoying in the last >> couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So >> what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware? >> > >
Re: [H] Windows 7 Firewall
Hello, As for Antivirus/Firewall I use Norton Internet Security 2010. I know they used to suck, but in 2009 they turned things around. Only bad part is you need to pay yearly subscription. As for Spyware Looks like NIS is doing the job as well. Watches websites and even tells you if the site is somewhere you should not be :) Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:34 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] Windows 7 Firewall > > I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV > 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall > and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I > have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I > got for free last year, but ZA has become so annoying in the last > couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So > what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware? >
[H] Windows 7 Firewall
I have made the Win7 Pro clean install upgrade. I am running SAV 10.2.0.298 but I still need to make a choice on a software firewall and maybe some anti spyware ... or is Win7 firewall good enough. I have a ZoneAlarm System works license for the latest version which I got for free last year, but ZA has become so annoying in the last couple of years, and you can't just install the firewall anymore. So what does the collective use for Win7 firewall... Spyware?
