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Thanks Lubomír Cabla for those links. I used to have personal notes somewhere that I had a drive as low as 500G that required a firmware update. That seems to be confirmed in the links below. I flashed all mine proactively BEFORE they might have become bricks. Seagate has a link buried on their site where you input your serial number (or run a program, etc) to check. http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207931NewLang=en The newer firmware number (in the Winterlight PDF) seems to be what I UPGRADED TO IIRC... Bummer, I thought they fixed this... I have a couple drives not even installed yet, back to all this digging, again... FWIW: I have an external I took out of the plastic case to test manually (it did not need it) and was doing this full stream on 6/12/2009 with the desktop ones. Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Lubomír Cabla 1. ST31000340?AS w/ SD15 has firmware symptoms http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Barracuda-XT-Barracuda-and/ST31000340AS-w-SD15-has-firmware-symptoms-but-Tech-Support-says/m-p/39556 2. Fixing a Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drive These are instructions for fixing a Seagate 7200.11 hard drive that is stuck in the BSY state. This can be determined by the fact that it won't be recognized by the computer's BIOS. http://sites.google.com/site/seagatefix/ Good luck.
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To confirm it stays in Busy state use MHDD and read the status registers coming from the drive. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Lubomír Cabla Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dead drive 1. ST31000340?AS w/ SD15 has firmware symptoms http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Barracuda-XT-Barracuda-and/ST31000340AS-w- SD15-has-firmware-symptoms-but-Tech-Support-says/m-p/39556 2. Fixing a Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drive These are instructions for fixing a Seagate 7200.11 hard drive that is stuck in the BSY state. This can be determined by the fact that it won't be recognized by the computer's BIOS. http://sites.google.com/site/seagatefix/ Good luck. On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote: I have a 18 month old 1TB Seagate HD that has apparently died. I had about 800GB of video on it, two thirds of the space were backups of my DVD collection and I still have the DVDs so it could of been a lot worse. I was running it in an external drive bay, pretty much 24/7 when it just disappeared. I have never lost a drive by just disappearing, two others I have lost in the past all died slowly with failed access warnings or just screwing things up but this just went silently. After trying restarts and reboots I put it in another USB2 external drive bay with no change, then I stuck it in a PC and the same problem. If the BIOS can't see it then I can't recover anything so I guess I'm done... unless somebody has another idea?
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Hello, First of all is it spinning? If it is, does it click? What's the model number? There can be so many things wrong with it, it's not funny. Some of the fixes that were posted do work, but do these at your own risk. If you fail you only make it harder for a professional to recover your data. If the drive is a 7200.10 then the Firmware fix will not work. If the drive is a 7200.12, there is a different fix for the firmware. That one fix only works on 7200.11 style HD's (F3). Good luck, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 7:11 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dead drive I have a 18 month old 1TB Seagate HD that has apparently died. I had about 800GB of video on it, two thirds of the space were backups of my DVD collection and I still have the DVDs so it could of been a lot worse. I was running it in an external drive bay, pretty much 24/7 when it just disappeared. I have never lost a drive by just disappearing, two others I have lost in the past all died slowly with failed access warnings or just screwing things up but this just went silently. After trying restarts and reboots I put it in another USB2 external drive bay with no change, then I stuck it in a PC and the same problem. If the BIOS can't see it then I can't recover anything so I guess I'm done... unless somebody has another idea?
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First of all is it spinning? yes If it is, does it click? no What's the model number? ST31000340AS you can see front and back here www.winterlight.org/ST31000340AS.pdf There can be so many things wrong with it, it's not funny. my best guess is the controller Some of the fixes that were posted do work, but do these at your own risk. If you fail you only make it harder for a professional to recover your data. This is mostly 70 plus percent backup of my DVDs so I am not doing any data recovery. If the drive is a 7200.10 then the Firmware fix will not work. I don't see how I could load the firmware anyway if no computer BIOS will see and mount the drive. If the drive is a 7200.12, there is a different fix for the firmware. That one fix only works on 7200.11 style HD's (F3). Good luck, thanks
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Hello, First of all is it spinning? yes That's a good thing. If it is, does it click? no That's a good thing as well. What's the model number? ST31000340AS you can see front and back here www.winterlight.org/ST31000340AS.pdf It is a F3 style Seagate HD. This makes a bit easier. There can be so many things wrong with it, it's not funny. my best guess is the controller Some of the fixes that were posted do work, but do these at your own risk. If you fail you only make it harder for a professional to recover your data. This is mostly 70 plus percent backup of my DVDs so I am not doing any data recovery. If the drive is a 7200.10 then the Firmware fix will not work. I don't see how I could load the firmware anyway if no computer BIOS will see and mount the drive. If the HD does not mount you need to connect the drive via HyperTerminal via the Serial connector of the drive. This way you can fix the drive. But, if you have no way of connecting the drive to a RS-232 connector you will not be able to fix it. Look for HHD Lock problem with Seagate HD's. There are a lot of fixes on the internet for it. Beware it can make the drive worse as well. Good luck,
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Tim, Thanks for your share. Last month I read about this serial-to-disk interface business on Seagate HD's. I was completely blown away by all of the anecdotal user shares trying to build this very special cable and then get it to work between the PC and the suspect HD. For several days I thought about this. Yes, this is the HWG and I know we will play with it. Then I re-scanned the shares and noticed that all of the potentials for this (and everyone agreed!) extreme fix procedure, were using HD's of 1.0TB, 1.5TB, or 2.0TB. Lamely, I agreed with myself the 500GB SATA HD's were not in my immediate future! I do suspect that the 1.0TB HD is going to become a future default. I can wait. Meanwhile, I suspect that you will be a very busy fellow! Best, Duncan On 09/13/2010 15:54, Tim Lider wrote: Hello, First of all is it spinning? yes That's a good thing. If it is, does it click? no That's a good thing as well. What's the model number? ST31000340AS you can see front and back here www.winterlight.org/ST31000340AS.pdf It is a F3 style Seagate HD. This makes a bit easier. There can be so many things wrong with it, it's not funny. my best guess is the controller Some of the fixes that were posted do work, but do these at your own risk. If you fail you only make it harder for a professional to recover your data. This is mostly 70 plus percent backup of my DVDs so I am not doing any data recovery. If the drive is a 7200.10 then the Firmware fix will not work. I don't see how I could load the firmware anyway if no computer BIOS will see and mount the drive. If the HD does not mount you need to connect the drive via HyperTerminal via the Serial connector of the drive. This way you can fix the drive. But, if you have no way of connecting the drive to a RS-232 connector you will not be able to fix it. Look for HHD Lock problem with Seagate HD's. There are a lot of fixes on the internet for it. Beware it can make the drive worse as well. Good luck,
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I have on several occasions to just get the info off, put the drive in the freezer in a zip lock for a couple hours then put the drive back into the system and try starting it will it is still nice and cold, worked about seven times out of eight. Got the stuff off to another drive and then stacked it in the corner with the rest of the dead ones. (don't know why I keep em) Mark Dodge MD Computers Houston, TX -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:11 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dead drive I have a 18 month old 1TB Seagate HD that has apparently died. I had about 800GB of video on it, two thirds of the space were backups of my DVD collection and I still have the DVDs so it could of been a lot worse. I was running it in an external drive bay, pretty much 24/7 when it just disappeared. I have never lost a drive by just disappearing, two others I have lost in the past all died slowly with failed access warnings or just screwing things up but this just went silently. After trying restarts and reboots I put it in another USB2 external drive bay with no change, then I stuck it in a PC and the same problem. If the BIOS can't see it then I can't recover anything so I guess I'm done... unless somebody has another idea?
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Mark Dodge wrote: stacked it in the corner with the rest of the dead ones. (don't know why I keep em) To get the cool, powerful magnets out of them? al
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10-4 on the ...cool, powerful magnets out of them? I no longer have to search the kitchen for the grocery list any more! But, getting the magnets off the reefer can be fun. Good luck, Winterlight. Duncan On 09/11/2010 08:59, Al Anger wrote: Mark Dodge wrote: stacked it in the corner with the rest of the dead ones. (don't know why I keep em) To get the cool, powerful magnets out of them? al
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might this be one of the bad firmware seagates? if you go back a few months in the archives you'll find my posting about the $8 interface I used to reset mine. When mine died it was during a reboot, was there when I rebooted it wasn't. Error was a sticky logging bug which left drive BUSY after a reset. On 9/10/2010 7:10 PM, Winterlight wrote: I have a 18 month old 1TB Seagate HD that has apparently died. I had about 800GB of video on it, two thirds of the space were backups of my DVD collection and I still have the DVDs so it could of been a lot worse. I was running it in an external drive bay, pretty much 24/7 when it just disappeared. I have never lost a drive by just disappearing, two others I have lost in the past all died slowly with failed access warnings or just screwing things up but this just went silently. After trying restarts and reboots I put it in another USB2 external drive bay with no change, then I stuck it in a PC and the same problem. If the BIOS can't see it then I can't recover anything so I guess I'm done... unless somebody has another idea?
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If I recall those were the early 1.5TB drives. At 12:00 PM 9/11/2010, you wrote: might this be one of the bad firmware seagates? if you go back a few months in the archives you'll find my posting about the $8 interface I used to reset mine. When mine died it was during a reboot, was there when I rebooted it wasn't. Error was a sticky logging bug which left drive BUSY after a reset.
[H] dead drive
I have a 18 month old 1TB Seagate HD that has apparently died. I had about 800GB of video on it, two thirds of the space were backups of my DVD collection and I still have the DVDs so it could of been a lot worse. I was running it in an external drive bay, pretty much 24/7 when it just disappeared. I have never lost a drive by just disappearing, two others I have lost in the past all died slowly with failed access warnings or just screwing things up but this just went silently. After trying restarts and reboots I put it in another USB2 external drive bay with no change, then I stuck it in a PC and the same problem. If the BIOS can't see it then I can't recover anything so I guess I'm done... unless somebody has another idea?
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Hi, If the drive is not showing up in the BIOS, but seems to be spinning, you can try this: Get an identical model/series drive (exact identical model and size), and transplant the controller board from one drive to the other. I have had this work on quite a number of drives that just would not show up in the BIOS. This is why my DVD backup images (3 year olds are murder on DVDs) are on RAID6 Harry On 9/10/10 7:10 PM, Winterlight wrote: I have a 18 month old 1TB Seagate HD that has apparently died. I had about 800GB of video on it, two thirds of the space were backups of my DVD collection and I still have the DVDs so it could of been a lot worse. I was running it in an external drive bay, pretty much 24/7 when it just disappeared. I have never lost a drive by just disappearing, two others I have lost in the past all died slowly with failed access warnings or just screwing things up but this just went silently. After trying restarts and reboots I put it in another USB2 external drive bay with no change, then I stuck it in a PC and the same problem. If the BIOS can't see it then I can't recover anything so I guess I'm done... unless somebody has another idea?
