Re: [H] dsl status
inline below. At 23:42 11/09/2007 -0800, you wrote: Home routers often act as a DNS relay. When DNS relaying is enabled the systems on the private network that are configured via DHCP will have their dns address set to the IP of the gateway/router. The router then forwards requests to the actual DNS address on the WAN side of the router and caches the result for faster NS lookups in the future. Yes, I do understand this. I have my router set NOT to work as a DNS relay (ATM). This I will change, since I know that the DNS whatever that I have chosen to use is beyond (upstream of) my LAN. I do NOT use DHCP at/on my router or my LAN. I assign all addys individually (static). And, I tell each client who their DNS servers are and who their gateway is (for now). Old school? Perhaps., but the way I chose (past tense!) Still do not know whether I should put my chosen dns addys into my router for my current cients to call/use. Think I should, butit works for now, and clients seem to get wherever they need to get really fast now..most strange. One step forward. 1.5 steps back into the Ozone! I really do envy those of you that get it. Really, I do I intend to get there one of these days. When I mentioned dynamic dns before, what I was referring to is a feature where the router automatically notifies a server what the ip address you are currently assigned is. This server provides a vanity address that can be used to access your lan from the net. Essentially you get a static 'named' address that will always point to your dynamically changing ip address. Check out http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/ Thanks for the link. More reading. I read the words you sent. They really went over my head. OK. We could be stuck on 'server.' Yes, I think I own one. At this time, I may not really, truly, have a 'server' on my LAN. It (my server) may just really be another PC (with special potential if/when I turn it on!). I agree that my LAN might really suck. I am seeing this now. I am now thinking of re-trying the class C IP seriesjust to get directly against the modem!...and.just because I screwed it up so bad 2 weeks ago. More read.no harm, no foul. Thank you. (too bad you are not next door!) I do have patience. Best, Duncan -Tharin O. DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inline below.. At 21:32 11/09/2007 -0800, Tharin O. wrote: Most of the modems provided by the two telcos in my area, ATT and Verizon, seem to come in one of two designs. A single ethernet and/or usb port DSL modem intended for use with one PC or a router. The other a combination of a dsl modem, router, switch, and wireless ap. Yes, I have the single design. There is one input for the phone line, and only 1 (wan?) output for the router line. (odd that they call this a router with only 1 port, but I'm still learning). Very odd modem, but that is just my comment. Open to comments(?) I can play ethernet or USB, but not both together. I am doing straight ethernet. An http interface is used to change the settings of modem and maybe look at the stats of the dsl signal. Check! Yes. That is true, once you figure out how to get at it!. Got it. Many thanks to your stellar explanations. (I gave up the older telnet interface in 2000. Though, I do still know how to play that way too.) It was (is) on HTTP that my modem would not answer the htt?://launchmodem entry in the browser. The modem DID answer the more 'direct' request of htt?://192.168.1.254. I do understand this. Now. Different levels of 'ask.' (in my terms). Got there. The modem is now bridged ethernet. If you have your own router I've found it to be better to disable PPPoE on the modem and switch it to a bridged mode. It's much easier to start and tear down the pppoe sessions from your router instead of the modem. If you use the dynamic dns service in the router it will be better at issuing updates as well. OK. I have the modem 'bridged ethernet' but have not figured out how to kill PPPoE yet. I suppose that 'PPPoE' might be disabled at this point. Perhaps not. For the last 20 hours, it seems that the router is latching up to the modem very quickly (using PPPoE) in an /on demand/ situation. (This I can change just as soon as I find the switch in the router.) Now, I am not certain this is necessary. (another entire topic!). Yes, the router is still set to /on demand/. Still thinking about this. OK. Now we are back to either non-dynamic or dynamic DNS. I do use the DNS servers of BellSouth (where I am). Yes, they are NOT on my local (private) network. Just where, do these DNS addresses need to be? Yes, I have not elevated my server to a domain controller yet. Sorry, Greg. Still thinking.
Re: [H] dsl status
Most folks do not have any reason that they would need to know their internet address at any given time of the day. But when you need access to resources on your home pc or home network from somewhere other than home like work, a friends house, some random hotspot, whatever. You need to know the address of your internet connection at home in order to access your remote desktop, ftp server, security camera system, etc. For years I've been using a free account registered with a dynamic dns service at DynDNS.com Through them I can create a subdomain on one of the many domains they have available and they will point that subdomain to the IP address that they've been given. After the DynDNS server is informed of a new ip address it only takes a couple of minutes to take effect. I have ADSL service through ATT that is a dynamic IP plan. Every time I reconnect my PPPoE connection, my WAN address changes. Well, this stinks for me because I like to remotely connect to my desktop and run other services on my network that I could only access from somewhere else if I know the WAN address. By using DynDNS.com and the dyndns feature on my D-link router, the router will automatically inform the DynDNS.com server what my IP address is. Now I can be assured that whenever I connect to 'tjolsen.dyndns.com' it will be pointing to the current IP address assigned to my WAN connection at home. It is like having a static IP address without the added cost of a static ip plan from ATT. DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I mentioned dynamic dns before, what I was referring to is a feature where the router automatically notifies a server what the ip address you are currently assigned is. This server provides a vanity address that can be used to access your lan from the net. Essentially you get a static 'named' address that will always point to your dynamically changing ip address. Check out http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/ Thanks for the link. More reading. I read the words you sent. They really went over my head. OK. We could be stuck on 'server.' Yes, I think I own one. At this time, I may not really, truly, have a 'server' on my LAN. It (my server) may just really be another PC (with special potential if/when I turn it on!). I agree that my LAN might really suck. I am seeing this now. I am now thinking of re-trying the class C IP seriesjust to get directly against the modem!...and.just because I screwed it up so bad 2 weeks ago. More read.no harm, no foul. Thank you. (too bad you are not next door!) I do have patience. Best, Duncan -Tharin O.
[H] dsl status
Believe I am now 1 step better. After lots of really strange grief, I was finally able to speak to my westell 6100 dsl modem. What a chore! For some unknown reason (ATM) the machine I chose to use would NOT get an ip addy/dns addy automagically from the modem. Once I forced the machine to the modems subnet, I was able to speak to the modem (used separate cable). /Internet/--/modem/-/PC/ Yes, I do like dslreports.com/broadband.com. Too bad they are so behind in their faqs. Well, not a real biggie. The toys have changed really quickly. In any case, I did get to the modem and I did set the modem for bridged ethernet. Correct? Question: I had to use my Bellsouth UName/PW combo to get into the modem. Yes, it was connected to the phone line. Has the modem now recorded my acct credentials inside itself? Should I care? Wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] dsl status
If it is anything like my setup I had to set my DSL modem to bridging mode and then connected it to my Airport Extreme. I gave the Airport my DSL login credentials and presto. So I am thinking that your modem always knew your credentials if you had a PPoE or similar login for your DSL. On Nov 9, 2007 2:09 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe I am now 1 step better. After lots of really strange grief, I was finally able to speak to my westell 6100 dsl modem. What a chore! For some unknown reason (ATM) the machine I chose to use would NOT get an ip addy/dns addy automagically from the modem. Once I forced the machine to the modems subnet, I was able to speak to the modem (used separate cable). /Internet/--/modem/-/PC/ Yes, I do like dslreports.com/broadband.com. Too bad they are so behind in their faqs. Well, not a real biggie. The toys have changed really quickly. In any case, I did get to the modem and I did set the modem for bridged ethernet. Correct? Question: I had to use my Bellsouth UName/PW combo to get into the modem. Yes, it was connected to the phone line. Has the modem now recorded my acct credentials inside itself? Should I care? Wondering? Best, Duncan -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] dsl status
Brian, Yes, I got this. If I had an 'access port/point' I too would have demoted my router to 'bridged.' I only have one router. I call it my 'gateway.' Yes, am using PPPoE. So far, today, it all works. At 16:30 11/09/2007 -0500, you wrote: If it is anything like my setup I had to set my DSL modem to bridging mode and then connected it to my Airport Extreme. I gave the Airport my DSL login credentials and presto. So I am thinking that your modem always knew your credentials if you had a PPoE or similar login for your DSL. On Nov 9, 2007 2:09 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe I am now 1 step better. After lots of really strange grief, I was finally able to speak to my westell 6100 dsl modem. What a chore! For some unknown reason (ATM) the machine I chose to use would NOT get an ip addy/dns addy automagically from the modem. Once I forced the machine to the modems subnet, I was able to speak to the modem (used separate cable). /Internet/--/modem/-/PC/ Yes, I do like dslreports.com/broadband.com. Too bad they are so behind in their faqs. Well, not a real biggie. The toys have changed really quickly. In any case, I did get to the modem and I did set the modem for bridged ethernet. Correct? Question: I had to use my Bellsouth UName/PW combo to get into the modem. Yes, it was connected to the phone line. Has the modem now recorded my acct credentials inside itself? Should I care? Wondering? Best, Duncan -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] dsl status
Most of the modems provided by the two telcos in my area, ATT and Verizon, seem to come in one of two designs. A single ethernet and/or usb port DSL modem intended for use with one PC or a router. The other a combination of a dsl modem, router, switch, and wireless ap. An http interface is used to change the settings of modem and maybe look at the stats of the dsl signal. If you have your own router I've found it to be better to disable PPPoE on the modem and switch it to a bridged mode. It's much easier to start and tear down the pppoe sessions from your router instead of the modem. If you use the dynamic dns service in the router it will be better at issuing updates as well. -Tharin O. DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Yes, I got this. If I had an 'access port/point' I too would have demoted my router to 'bridged.' I only have one router. I call it my 'gateway.' Yes, am using PPPoE. So far, today, it all works.
Re: [H] dsl status
inline below.. At 21:32 11/09/2007 -0800, Tharin O. wrote: Most of the modems provided by the two telcos in my area, ATT and Verizon, seem to come in one of two designs. A single ethernet and/or usb port DSL modem intended for use with one PC or a router. The other a combination of a dsl modem, router, switch, and wireless ap. Yes, I have the single design. There is one input for the phone line, and only 1 (wan?) output for the router line. (odd that they call this a router with only 1 port, but I'm still learning). Very odd modem, but that is just my comment. Open to comments(?) I can play ethernet or USB, but not both together. I am doing straight ethernet. An http interface is used to change the settings of modem and maybe look at the stats of the dsl signal. Check! Yes. That is true, once you figure out how to get at it!. Got it. Many thanks to your stellar explanations. (I gave up the older telnet interface in 2000. Though, I do still know how to play that way too.) It was (is) on HTTP that my modem would not answer the htt?://launchmodem entry in the browser. The modem DID answer the more 'direct' request of htt?://192.168.1.254. I do understand this. Now. Different levels of 'ask.' (in my terms). Got there. The modem is now bridged ethernet. If you have your own router I've found it to be better to disable PPPoE on the modem and switch it to a bridged mode. It's much easier to start and tear down the pppoe sessions from your router instead of the modem. If you use the dynamic dns service in the router it will be better at issuing updates as well. OK. I have the modem 'bridged ethernet' but have not figured out how to kill PPPoE yet. I suppose that 'PPPoE' might be disabled at this point. Perhaps not. For the last 20 hours, it seems that the router is latching up to the modem very quickly (using PPPoE) in an /on demand/ situation. (This I can change just as soon as I find the switch in the router.) Now, I am not certain this is necessary. (another entire topic!). Yes, the router is still set to /on demand/. Still thinking about this. OK. Now we are back to either non-dynamic or dynamic DNS. I do use the DNS servers of BellSouth (where I am). Yes, they are NOT on my local (private) network. Just where, do these DNS addresses need to be? Yes, I have not elevated my server to a domain controller yet. Sorry, Greg. Still thinking. I do realize that I am so far off the edge of the diving board... I just do not know why. (maybe did not keep up to date, DOH!) Maybe a bad metaphor, but hopefully you understand the meaning. I am close to just throwing in the towel. This mess is getting more than I wish to share here on the Collective. I am now embarrassed. It used to be so EASY. Truly. Best, Duncan -Tharin O. DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Yes, I got this. If I had an 'access port/point' I too would have demoted my router to 'bridged.' I only have one router. I call it my 'gateway.' Yes, am using PPPoE. So far, today, it all works.
