Re: [dev-process] Coding Style Guide
Hi David, On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 16:58 +0200, David Tanzer wrote: I'm not worried about Java code we write, because I assume everyone agrees to use the Java Coding Conventions from Sun [1] here. Much of the development in Harmony is done in C at the moment, and we need a coding style guide here too. I have never seen that coding convention. But for GNU Classpath we use a coding convention that mimics the standard (GNU) C and C++ coding convention as closely as possible. This has as advantage that code written in different programming languages looks similar across the projects. I would recommend that other projects adopt that since we have written so much code that conforms to this standard already. See http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/docs/hacking.html#SEC8 I do note that coding conventions are something that lots of people have an opinion on. And in general they quickly turn into bike shed (*) discussions. So I would just state one convention and stick with it. Cheers, Mark (*) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [dev-process] Coding Style Guide
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 10:42 +0200, Leo Simons wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:58:29PM +0200, David Tanzer wrote: I've just had a look at some C code from jchevm and BootJVM to compare the coding style of both contributions. Both use coding styles which are quite common for C source code but they are slightly different, and I don't think that's good. We should really define a coding style guide before even more code is contributed. *shrug*. A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds (http://www.python.org/doc/essays/styleguide.html) The most important thing with coding style guides is that they don't get in the way of actual work or that discussing them turns into big flamewars or anything like that. IMNSHO. Ok, I didn't want to start a flame war (and AFAICS I didn't do so yet), and you're right, such a style guide should not get in the way of development. OTOH it has some advantages to have one and I've read on this list that others like the idea of a coding style guide too. Also it's good to know when *not* to apply such a style guide, but IMHO it's better to have a law you can break ;-). The rest IMHO. The second most important thing is consistency on a file-by-file basis. The third most important thing to note is that doing lots of reformatting halfway through a project makes the diffs harder to read, so it *is* something to do as early as possible. Exactly what I wanted to say. If we want such a style guide we should write it soon before too much code is contributed. [Snip] I like the kaffe one too: http://www.kaffe.org/doc/kaffe/FAQ.coding-style :-) :-D In any case, perhaps someone should just start a wiki page with some kind of policy on it and everyone that doesn't like the policy can change it so that what they're doing complies with that policy. See how it goes :-) Maybe I'll start one next week, this weekend I won't have too much time for that. cheers! Leo Cheers, David. -- David Tanzer, Haghofstr. 29, A-3352 St. Peter/Au, Austria/Europe http://deltalabs.at -- http://dev.guglhupf.net -- http://guglhupf.net My PGP Public Key: http://guglhupf.net/david/david.asc -- Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering? I think so Brain, but there's still a bug in there from last time. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[dev-process] Coding Style Guide
I've just had a look at some C code from jchevm and BootJVM to compare the coding style of both contributions. Both use coding styles which are quite common for C source code but they are slightly different, and I don't think that's good. We should really define a coding style guide before even more code is contributed. I'm not worried about Java code we write, because I assume everyone agrees to use the Java Coding Conventions from Sun [1] here. Much of the development in Harmony is done in C at the moment, and we need a coding style guide here too. I once suggested to use the Java Coding Conventions in C and C++ code too [2] (at least where possible, and we'd have to extend them to cover pre-processor directives and other C/C++ specific things). We could also use a style like Archie Cobbs or Dan Lydick used in their contributions, but IMHO we should write it down and then stick to it. Mark Wielaard provided a link to the project policy of GNU Classpath [3], I guess we could get some Ideas from this too. Regards, David [1] http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/ [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200508.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200510.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David Tanzer, Haghofstr. 29, A-3352 St. Peter/Au, Austria/Europe http://deltalabs.at -- http://dev.guglhupf.net -- http://guglhupf.net My PGP Public Key: http://guglhupf.net/david/david.asc -- Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering? Umm, I think so Big Brainy Fish Face Stove Pipe Wiggle Room Eileen. But if you get a long little doggie, wouldn't you just call it a dachshund? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
