Re: [classlib] creating a new snapshot, and planned breakage heads-up

2006-02-14 Thread Tim Ellison
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 I object :)
 
 I don't mean that seriously.
 
 Here is what I want to do first -
 
 I'll do the security change as agreed, and get the regex/bean/math in,
 so that the snapshot has all we can.  Even try to get some of the
 testcase or sql code in.

hey! get in line ... ;-)

 Let me suggest we discuss a different way - when do you plan on breaking?

Timing is not crucial, so whatever suits best (was thinking some time
during Wed - Fri).

The LUNI package renaming will touch a number of modules, so I can
either lock the world until I'm done, or release each of the renamed
references over a short period of time (expect ~1hr svn-willing).
After the rename you *will* need a new version of the IBM Harmony VME if
you want to continue running it on that VM.

Regards,
Tim

 gier
 
 
 Tim Ellison wrote:
 I'd like to propose that we create a new snapshot of the classlib code
 and make it available on the binary downloads page:
 http://cvs.apache.org/dist/incubator/harmony/snapshots/

 Now that the security2 code is integrated into the build it seems a good
 time to refresh the snapshot, and there have been quite a few fixes in
 other parts.

 In addition, and once the snapshot is safely tucked away, I'd like to
 break the world :-)

 I want to rename some of the packages in LUNI from com.ibm to
 org.apache.  Some of these packages are referenced by kernel code, which
 means that there will need to be a new IBM Harmony VME made available on
 Developerworks.  Unfortunately (due to the renaming) you will not be
 able to use an old Harmony VME with the new classlib code and vice versa.

 Please indicate ASAP if you object to this renaming work taking place
 within the next couple of days.

 Regards,
 Tim

 

-- 

Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
IBM Java technology centre, UK.


Re: [classlib] creating a new snapshot, and planned breakage heads-up

2006-02-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr



Tim Ellison wrote:

Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

I object :)

I don't mean that seriously.

Here is what I want to do first -

I'll do the security change as agreed, and get the regex/bean/math in,
so that the snapshot has all we can.  Even try to get some of the
testcase or sql code in.


hey! get in line ... ;-)


Hey, it's your testcases I was talking about.




Let me suggest we discuss a different way - when do you plan on breaking?


Timing is not crucial, so whatever suits best (was thinking some time
during Wed - Fri).

The LUNI package renaming will touch a number of modules, so I can
either lock the world until I'm done, or release each of the renamed
references over a short period of time (expect ~1hr svn-willing).
After the rename you *will* need a new version of the IBM Harmony VME if
you want to continue running it on that VM


Ok.  I assume that you can get a new VME to the IBM website that 
supports the changes you are making before/simultaneous to the commit 
you do?


IOW, could you do the changes on your system, and do the commit when you 
are reasonably certain that the VME will be available so it doesn't hose 
the rest of us?


Also, can you leave a link up for the old VME too?

In parallel, I can make the changes to security and r/b/m and get the 
snapshot built and published.


How does that sound?

geir



RE: [classlib] creating a new snapshot, and planned breakage heads-up

2006-02-14 Thread Nathan Beyer
Not that my vote counts for a huge amount, but as long as there's a new IBM
Harmony VME or alternative available in a reasonable amount of time, do as
you please. As I prefer to stick with hacking around in the classlib modules
and leave the rocket science up the smart folk, I'm very dependent on a
working VM to build and execute test cases against.

That's my two cents worth.

-Nathan

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:58 AM
To: harmony-dev
Subject: [classlib] creating a new snapshot, and planned breakage heads-up

I'd like to propose that we create a new snapshot of the classlib code
and make it available on the binary downloads page:
http://cvs.apache.org/dist/incubator/harmony/snapshots/

Now that the security2 code is integrated into the build it seems a good
time to refresh the snapshot, and there have been quite a few fixes in
other parts.

In addition, and once the snapshot is safely tucked away, I'd like to
break the world :-)

I want to rename some of the packages in LUNI from com.ibm to
org.apache.  Some of these packages are referenced by kernel code, which
means that there will need to be a new IBM Harmony VME made available on
Developerworks.  Unfortunately (due to the renaming) you will not be
able to use an old Harmony VME with the new classlib code and vice versa.

Please indicate ASAP if you object to this renaming work taking place
within the next couple of days.

Regards,
Tim

-- 

Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
IBM Java technology centre, UK.



Re: [classlib] creating a new snapshot, and planned breakage heads-up

2006-02-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Yes, I think we're committed to ensuring that at any point that things 
are usable and stable.


geir

Nathan Beyer wrote:

Not that my vote counts for a huge amount, but as long as there's a new IBM
Harmony VME or alternative available in a reasonable amount of time, do as
you please. As I prefer to stick with hacking around in the classlib modules
and leave the rocket science up the smart folk, I'm very dependent on a
working VM to build and execute test cases against.

That's my two cents worth.

-Nathan

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:58 AM

To: harmony-dev
Subject: [classlib] creating a new snapshot, and planned breakage heads-up

I'd like to propose that we create a new snapshot of the classlib code
and make it available on the binary downloads page:
http://cvs.apache.org/dist/incubator/harmony/snapshots/

Now that the security2 code is integrated into the build it seems a good
time to refresh the snapshot, and there have been quite a few fixes in
other parts.

In addition, and once the snapshot is safely tucked away, I'd like to
break the world :-)

I want to rename some of the packages in LUNI from com.ibm to
org.apache.  Some of these packages are referenced by kernel code, which
means that there will need to be a new IBM Harmony VME made available on
Developerworks.  Unfortunately (due to the renaming) you will not be
able to use an old Harmony VME with the new classlib code and vice versa.

Please indicate ASAP if you object to this renaming work taking place
within the next couple of days.

Regards,
Tim