Re: heroku nameserver info

[Neil Middleton]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:14 PM Jason Fleetwood-Boldt 
wrote:

>
> You will note that to achieve this, DNSimple reads Heroku's IP addresses *in
> real time* and updates the DNS record in real time with fixed IP
> addresses.
>

Not entirely true as there's a wedge of caching in there, but close enough.
 https://support.dnsimple.com/articles/alias-record/

Yes, if you don't care about SSL at the root (that is, you're ok with
> people either using only http://example.com or https://www.example.com),
> any DNS provider will in fact work for you.
>
> As others said, I too believe GoDaddy to be an inferior DNS provider.
> Contrary to popular opinion, not all DNS is created equally.
>

I wouldn't even call GoDaddy a DNS provider it's that bad.  Move off them
as soon as possible.

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Re: heroku nameserver info

[Jason Fleetwood-Boldt]

Does Route53 support SSL at the root?

You will note that to achieve this, DNSimple reads Heroku's IP addresses in 
real time and updates the DNS record in real time with fixed IP addresses.

Yes, if you don't care about SSL at the root (that is, you're ok with people 
either using only http://example.com or https://www.example.com), any DNS 
provider will in fact work for you.

As others said, I too believe GoDaddy to be an inferior DNS provider. Contrary 
to popular opinion, not all DNS is created equally.

-Jason


> On Nov 28, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Pete Keen  wrote:
> 
> Route53 also provides this. You would use an ALIAS record pointing at the SSL 
> endpoint that Heroku hands you, which ultimately is an AWS elastic load 
> balanced instance.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:26 AM Jennifer Abella  > wrote:
> Jason -- 
> 
> You are the best!  I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to 
> me, a veritable newbie.  
> 
> Thanks, 
> Jen
> 
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jason Fleetwood-Boldt  > wrote:
> Heroku does not provide a DNS service.
> 
> You cannot use a traditional DNS service with Heroku, as you said, because of 
> the non-permanent IP addresses.
> 
> For you, you have two basic options:
> 
> 1. Set up a Forwarding domain on GoDaddy. (In this case you keep GoDaddy as 
> your primary name server-- every domain must have a Primary domain name 
> servers). Here, you will want to leave everything as default on GoDaddy and 
> set up a CNAME record from your www subdomain to point to the domain Heroku 
> assigns to your app (like xyz.herokuapp.com  or 
> xyz.herokussl.com ).  
> 
> Important: This will not work on the root domain. (That is, if someone types 
> in your domain without the "www"). To achieve this, you will need to create a 
> Forwarding setup, which can be done inside of GoDaddy, so that someone who 
> types http://example.com  will get redirected to 
> http://www.example.com 
> 
> More important: This root-domain forwarding will not work if the user types 
> in https instead of http on the root domain. (https://example.com 
> ). It won't work and you can't get it to work. It will 
> never work. You might as well just beat your fists against a wall. It is 
> unsupported by GoDaddy + Heroku at this time -- you cannot achieve that do 
> not try and do not ask them, they cannot help you. It is not possible using 
> only GoDaddy and Heroku. (That is, I am speaking specifically about SSL at 
> the root-domain -- that is specifically impossible.)
> 
> 2. If you really want need SSL at the root domain (which is common, as 
> without it your users may https://example.com  in their 
> browser and be met with a message that your site cannot be found), you need 
> to use a specialized DNS provider. The only one I know of that currently 
> offers this specialized service is DNSimple. We use them and are very happy 
> with them. With DNSimple, you will then set GoDaddy to use DNSimple's name 
> servers, and DNSimple will then be your primary domain name server. As well, 
> they have a special (and magic) service to support SSL at the root domain (as 
> explained is impossible with GoDaddy+Heroku only). This is unique in the 
> industry and I know of no other DNS provider who offers this special service.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Jennifer Abella > > wrote:
>> 
>> Help! I'm so new to developing and deploying an app and somehow deleted my 
>> nameservers on godaddy.com  earlier today and need to 
>> undo that.  Where can I get the nameserver information for Heroku? GoDaddy 
>> says they cannot help me without the nameserver info or the IP address, 
>> which I've read you can't really get with Heroku because everything gets 
>> moved around. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Jen
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Re: heroku nameserver info

[Neil Middleton]

I would strongly suggest moving away from GoDaddy DNS, it causes all sorts
of issues.  DNSimple seems to be the best Heroku friendly DNS provider out
there so if you can use them, then do.  They support Apex aliasing along
with everything else you need to get a decent properly configured setup.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:59 PM Pete Keen  wrote:

> Route53 also provides this. You would use an ALIAS record pointing at the
> SSL endpoint that Heroku hands you, which ultimately is an AWS elastic load
> balanced instance.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:26 AM Jennifer Abella 
> wrote:
>
> Jason --
>
> You are the best!  I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this
> to me, a veritable newbie.
>
> Thanks,
> Jen
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jason Fleetwood-Boldt <
> t...@datatravels.com> wrote:
>
> *Heroku does not provide a DNS service.*
>
> You cannot use a traditional DNS service with Heroku, as you said, because
> of the non-permanent IP addresses.
>
> For you, you have two basic options:
>
> 1. Set up a Forwarding domain on GoDaddy. (In this case you keep GoDaddy
> as your primary name server-- every domain *must* have a Primary domain
> name servers). Here, you will want to leave everything as default on
> GoDaddy and set up a CNAME record from your www subdomain to point to the
> domain Heroku assigns to your app (like xyz.herokuapp.com or
> xyz.herokussl.com).
>
> Important: This will not work on the root domain. (That is, if someone
> types in your domain without the "www"). To achieve this, you will need to
> create a Forwarding setup, which can be done inside of GoDaddy, so that
> someone who types http://example.com will get redirected to
> http://www.example.com
>
> *More important*: This root-domain forwarding *will not work if the user
> types in https* instead of *http* on the root domain. (https://example.com).
> It won't work and you can't get it to work. It will never work. You might
> as well just beat your fists against a wall. It is unsupported by GoDaddy +
> Heroku at this time -- you cannot achieve that do not try and do not ask
> them, they cannot help you. It is *not possible* using only GoDaddy and
> Heroku. (That is, I am speaking specifically about SSL at the root-domain
> -- that is specifically impossible.)
>
> 2. If you really want need SSL at the root domain (which is common, as
> without it your users may https://example.com in their browser and be met
> with a message that your site cannot be found), you need to use a
> specialized DNS provider. The only one I know of that currently offers this
> specialized service is DNSimple. We use them and are very happy with them.
> With DNSimple, you will then set GoDaddy to use DNSimple's name servers,
> and DNSimple will then be your primary domain name server. As well, they
> have a special (and magic) service to support SSL at the root domain (as
> explained is impossible with GoDaddy+Heroku only). This is unique in the
> industry and I know of no other DNS provider who offers this special
> service.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Jason
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Jennifer Abella 
> wrote:
>
> Help! I'm so new to developing and deploying an app and somehow deleted my
> nameservers on godaddy.com earlier today and need to undo that.  Where
> can I get the nameserver information for Heroku? GoDaddy says they cannot
> help me without the nameserver info or the IP address, which I've read you
> can't really get with Heroku because everything gets moved around.
>
> Thanks,
> Jen
>
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Re: heroku nameserver info

[Pete Keen]

Route53 also provides this. You would use an ALIAS record pointing at the
SSL endpoint that Heroku hands you, which ultimately is an AWS elastic load
balanced instance.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:26 AM Jennifer Abella 
wrote:

> Jason --
>
> You are the best!  I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this
> to me, a veritable newbie.
>
> Thanks,
> Jen
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jason Fleetwood-Boldt <
> t...@datatravels.com> wrote:
>
> *Heroku does not provide a DNS service.*
>
> You cannot use a traditional DNS service with Heroku, as you said, because
> of the non-permanent IP addresses.
>
> For you, you have two basic options:
>
> 1. Set up a Forwarding domain on GoDaddy. (In this case you keep GoDaddy
> as your primary name server-- every domain *must* have a Primary domain
> name servers). Here, you will want to leave everything as default on
> GoDaddy and set up a CNAME record from your www subdomain to point to the
> domain Heroku assigns to your app (like xyz.herokuapp.com or
> xyz.herokussl.com).
>
> Important: This will not work on the root domain. (That is, if someone
> types in your domain without the "www"). To achieve this, you will need to
> create a Forwarding setup, which can be done inside of GoDaddy, so that
> someone who types http://example.com will get redirected to
> http://www.example.com
>
> *More important*: This root-domain forwarding *will not work if the user
> types in https* instead of *http* on the root domain. (https://example.com).
> It won't work and you can't get it to work. It will never work. You might
> as well just beat your fists against a wall. It is unsupported by GoDaddy +
> Heroku at this time -- you cannot achieve that do not try and do not ask
> them, they cannot help you. It is *not possible* using only GoDaddy and
> Heroku. (That is, I am speaking specifically about SSL at the root-domain
> -- that is specifically impossible.)
>
> 2. If you really want need SSL at the root domain (which is common, as
> without it your users may https://example.com in their browser and be met
> with a message that your site cannot be found), you need to use a
> specialized DNS provider. The only one I know of that currently offers this
> specialized service is DNSimple. We use them and are very happy with them.
> With DNSimple, you will then set GoDaddy to use DNSimple's name servers,
> and DNSimple will then be your primary domain name server. As well, they
> have a special (and magic) service to support SSL at the root domain (as
> explained is impossible with GoDaddy+Heroku only). This is unique in the
> industry and I know of no other DNS provider who offers this special
> service.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Jason
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Jennifer Abella 
> wrote:
>
> Help! I'm so new to developing and deploying an app and somehow deleted my
> nameservers on godaddy.com earlier today and need to undo that.  Where
> can I get the nameserver information for Heroku? GoDaddy says they cannot
> help me without the nameserver info or the IP address, which I've read you
> can't really get with Heroku because everything gets moved around.
>
> Thanks,
> Jen
>
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Re: heroku nameserver info

[Jennifer Abella]

Jason --

You are the best!  I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this
to me, a veritable newbie.

Thanks,
Jen

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jason Fleetwood-Boldt  wrote:

> *Heroku does not provide a DNS service.*
>
> You cannot use a traditional DNS service with Heroku, as you said, because
> of the non-permanent IP addresses.
>
> For you, you have two basic options:
>
> 1. Set up a Forwarding domain on GoDaddy. (In this case you keep GoDaddy
> as your primary name server-- every domain *must* have a Primary domain
> name servers). Here, you will want to leave everything as default on
> GoDaddy and set up a CNAME record from your www subdomain to point to the
> domain Heroku assigns to your app (like xyz.herokuapp.com or
> xyz.herokussl.com).
>
> Important: This will not work on the root domain. (That is, if someone
> types in your domain without the "www"). To achieve this, you will need to
> create a Forwarding setup, which can be done inside of GoDaddy, so that
> someone who types http://example.com will get redirected to
> http://www.example.com
>
> *More important*: This root-domain forwarding *will not work if the user
> types in https* instead of *http* on the root domain. (https://example.com).
> It won't work and you can't get it to work. It will never work. You might
> as well just beat your fists against a wall. It is unsupported by GoDaddy +
> Heroku at this time -- you cannot achieve that do not try and do not ask
> them, they cannot help you. It is *not possible* using only GoDaddy and
> Heroku. (That is, I am speaking specifically about SSL at the root-domain
> -- that is specifically impossible.)
>
> 2. If you really want need SSL at the root domain (which is common, as
> without it your users may https://example.com in their browser and be met
> with a message that your site cannot be found), you need to use a
> specialized DNS provider. The only one I know of that currently offers this
> specialized service is DNSimple. We use them and are very happy with them.
> With DNSimple, you will then set GoDaddy to use DNSimple's name servers,
> and DNSimple will then be your primary domain name server. As well, they
> have a special (and magic) service to support SSL at the root domain (as
> explained is impossible with GoDaddy+Heroku only). This is unique in the
> industry and I know of no other DNS provider who offers this special
> service.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Jason
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Jennifer Abella 
> wrote:
>
> Help! I'm so new to developing and deploying an app and somehow deleted my
> nameservers on godaddy.com earlier today and need to undo that.  Where
> can I get the nameserver information for Heroku? GoDaddy says they cannot
> help me without the nameserver info or the IP address, which I've read you
> can't really get with Heroku because everything gets moved around.
>
> Thanks,
> Jen
>
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Re: heroku nameserver info

[Jason Fleetwood-Boldt]

Heroku does not provide a DNS service.

You cannot use a traditional DNS service with Heroku, as you said, because of 
the non-permanent IP addresses.

For you, you have two basic options:

1. Set up a Forwarding domain on GoDaddy. (In this case you keep GoDaddy as 
your primary name server-- every domain must have a Primary domain name 
servers). Here, you will want to leave everything as default on GoDaddy and set 
up a CNAME record from your www subdomain to point to the domain Heroku assigns 
to your app (like xyz.herokuapp.com or xyz.herokussl.com).  

Important: This will not work on the root domain. (That is, if someone types in 
your domain without the "www"). To achieve this, you will need to create a 
Forwarding setup, which can be done inside of GoDaddy, so that someone who 
types http://example.com will get redirected to http://www.example.com

More important: This root-domain forwarding will not work if the user types in 
https instead of http on the root domain. (https://example.com). It won't work 
and you can't get it to work. It will never work. You might as well just beat 
your fists against a wall. It is unsupported by GoDaddy + Heroku at this time 
-- you cannot achieve that do not try and do not ask them, they cannot help 
you. It is not possible using only GoDaddy and Heroku. (That is, I am speaking 
specifically about SSL at the root-domain -- that is specifically impossible.)

2. If you really want need SSL at the root domain (which is common, as without 
it your users may https://example.com in their browser and be met with a 
message that your site cannot be found), you need to use a specialized DNS 
provider. The only one I know of that currently offers this specialized service 
is DNSimple. We use them and are very happy with them. With DNSimple, you will 
then set GoDaddy to use DNSimple's name servers, and DNSimple will then be your 
primary domain name server. As well, they have a special (and magic) service to 
support SSL at the root domain (as explained is impossible with GoDaddy+Heroku 
only). This is unique in the industry and I know of no other DNS provider who 
offers this special service.

Good luck!

-Jason




> On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Jennifer Abella  
> wrote:
> 
> Help! I'm so new to developing and deploying an app and somehow deleted my 
> nameservers on godaddy.com earlier today and need to undo that.  Where can I 
> get the nameserver information for Heroku? GoDaddy says they cannot help me 
> without the nameserver info or the IP address, which I've read you can't 
> really get with Heroku because everything gets moved around. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Jen
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