Re: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?
In the three example cards they show there are errors. In the first one it gives "liter" and "meter". I know this spelling is common in the United States, but I believe the SI standard is "litre" and "metre". In other words, include both. In the middle one, about reticulin staining, I would dispute the dogmatic nature of the information. Although this is a common explanation, it is not the modern one, which uses analogies to the photographic process. It is presented as absolute fact when it is an unproven suggestion as to what may happen. The final one, about dye structure, uses "chromogen" as a synonym for "chromophore", whereas it is a little used term for the dye+chromophore combination. For that reason, the final use of "chromophore" should actually be "chromogen". The word "auxophore" does not exist. It should be auxochrome. If you are going to use flash cards for improving rote learning of facts, make sure the facts being learned are correct. I suggest that students should have the cards checked out by an experienced educator technologist before using them, as first-learned information stays with you for decades. Bryan Llewellyn - Original Message - From: "Lee & Peggy Wenk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Kristen Yaros'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Histonet'" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards? I had never heard of them, so I looked them up on the website. Morrison Media www.mo-med.com They sell all kinds of flashcards and study guides for lots of tests. Under the E-H category, where the HT and HTL flashcards have a link, there are also links to Electrician exam, Paramedic exam, First Responder test, Funeral Service test, GED, GRE, GMAT - you get the idea. According to their general blurb, they have experts in the field writing the flashcards. Does anyone know any histotech involved in writing the flashcards? I'd love for them to talk about this. I think for some people, having flashcards would fit with their style of learning - give them soundbites of information on topics, instead of having them read entire books. Or use this as a supplement to studying. Or have them in their purse/pocket where they can pull out a card and study on the go, instead of a book. But I do have some concerns about the flashcards and the test taking information this company supplies. If there is someone out there who helped write the cards, or someone who has bought the cards to respond, that would be helpful. - They have topics divided into 2 tests (have to pay separate for them) - HT and HTL. But when I look at what's on the HT exam vs. what's on the HTL exam, I have some concerns. - HTL need to know chemical fixatives, HT are supposed to know chemical and physical fixation. - HTL need to know autolysis, HT are supposed to know autolysis and putrefaction - HTL need to know acid decalcification, HT are supposed to know decalcification and chelation - HT are supposed to know Immunofluorescence, Electron microscopy, Carbowax and Celloidin, which are not listed on the HTL topics (yet ASCP HTL exam would include these topics, but ASCP HT exam would not) - The only stains listed for HT are H&E, Mucopolysaccharides, Hyaluronidase, Gomori Trichrome. - HTL stains include Connective tissue, PTAH, Bacteria, Fungus, Gram, Auramine-Rhodamine, Exogenous pigments, Minerals. Yet on the ASCP HT exam, all these stains are also required for the HT exam. You get the idea. Also, under the "Histotechnology Exam Secrets Study Guide", they are saying that their histotechnology exam study guide will help people "beat the test taking game", and that their research in the HT and HTL exam offered by ASCP "reveals specific weaknesses that you can exploit". Basically, what followed were test taking tips - how to guess to your advantage, how to tell the difference between right answers and clever sounding traps, how random bits of information often give away the right answer, how to look for key words to identify the correct answer, etc. Yet I know that the ASCP Board of Registry has (or at least did have) a psychometrician on staff - someone with a PhD in test writing, who works with the histotechs and pathologists writing the exam questions, to eliminate all the above "clues". Between this company's "tips" and the customer testimonials that they only studied for 1 week (one case, 5 hours) and passed the exam - I'm worried about people who aren't studying for the HT/HTL exam, and think these test taking clues will help them pass. This isn't like taking the GRE, where you can get by with some math and grammar background that can to be refreshed - the HT and HTL exams are based on a LOT of information that has to be LEARNED and APPLIED. The other concern I have is that the 3 flashcards they show as examples are still MEMORIZED information. What test takers have problems with are the PROBLEM-SOLVING and TROUBLESHOOTING aspects of the
RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?
I was not involved in writing any questions/answers. However I am thinking of buying some of the cards just of out curiousity! I can understand the concern about the memorization aspect versus true understanding, application- a.k.a "knowledge". I definately think that this would be a drawback. I have worked with a number of folks who seemed to have memorized information for the test but either do not seem to have retained any of it, and/or unable to apply any of the details of that information when in a real laboratory situation. (and have apparantly also lost the ability to look up needed information). I can also see that the HT versus HTL topic lists do not seem to coincide much with the topic and study lists published for registry exam preparation on the ASCP website? I know that the special stains list is most definately not a match. Go figure? It will be interesting to see what reply is posted. Joelle> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:28:56 -0400> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?> CC: > > I had never heard of them, so I looked them up on the website. Morrison> Media www.mo-med.com> > They sell all kinds of flashcards and study guides for lots of tests. Under> the E-H category, where the HT and HTL flashcards have a link, there are> also links to Electrician exam, Paramedic exam, First Responder test,> Funeral Service test, GED, GRE, GMAT - you get the idea. > > According to their general blurb, they have experts in the field writing the> flashcards. Does anyone know any histotech involved in writing the> flashcards? I'd love for them to talk about this.> > I think for some people, having flashcards would fit with their style of> learning - give them soundbites of information on topics, instead of having> them read entire books. Or use this as a supplement to studying. Or have> them in their purse/pocket where they can pull out a card and study on the> go, instead of a book.> > But I do have some concerns about the flashcards and the test taking> information this company supplies. If there is someone out there who helped> write the cards, or someone who has bought the cards to respond, that would> be helpful.> - They have topics divided into 2 tests (have to pay separate for them) - HT> and HTL. But when I look at what's on the HT exam vs. what's on the HTL> exam, I have some concerns.> - HTL need to know chemical fixatives, HT are supposed to know chemical and> physical fixation.> - HTL need to know autolysis, HT are supposed to know autolysis and> putrefaction> - HTL need to know acid decalcification, HT are supposed to know> decalcification and chelation> - HT are supposed to know Immunofluorescence, Electron microscopy, Carbowax> and Celloidin, which are not listed on the HTL topics (yet ASCP HTL exam> would include these topics, but ASCP HT exam would not)> - The only stains listed for HT are H&E, Mucopolysaccharides, Hyaluronidase,> Gomori Trichrome. > - HTL stains include Connective tissue, PTAH, Bacteria, Fungus, Gram,> Auramine-Rhodamine, Exogenous pigments, Minerals. Yet on the ASCP HT exam,> all these stains are also required for the HT exam.> You get the idea.> > Also, under the "Histotechnology Exam Secrets Study Guide", they are saying> that their histotechnology exam study guide will help people "beat the test> taking game", and that their research in the HT and HTL exam offered by ASCP> "reveals specific weaknesses that you can exploit".> > Basically, what followed were test taking tips - how to guess to your> advantage, how to tell the difference between right answers and clever> sounding traps, how random bits of information often give away the right> answer, how to look for key words to identify the correct answer, etc.> > Yet I know that the ASCP Board of Registry has (or at least did have) a> psychometrician on staff - someone with a PhD in test writing, who works> with the histotechs and pathologists writing the exam questions, to> eliminate all the above "clues".> > Between this company's "tips" and the customer testimonials that they only> studied for 1 week (one case, 5 hours) and passed the exam - I'm worried> about people who aren't studying for the HT/HTL exam, and think these test> taking clues will help them pass. This isn't like taking the GRE, where you> can get by with some math and grammar background that can to be refreshed -> the HT and HTL exams are based on a LOT of information that has to be> LEARNED and APPLIED.> > The other concern I have is that the 3 flashcards they show as examples are> still MEMORIZED information. What test takers have problems with are the> PROBLEM-SOLVING and TROUBLESHOOTING aspects of the HT and HTL exams. Yes,> they need to know what the oxidizer in the retic stain is, but they also> need to know how to tell if it isn't working, or what to do if they run out,> etc.> > So I'd love to hear from someone involved with writing
RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?
I had never heard of them, so I looked them up on the website. Morrison Media www.mo-med.com They sell all kinds of flashcards and study guides for lots of tests. Under the E-H category, where the HT and HTL flashcards have a link, there are also links to Electrician exam, Paramedic exam, First Responder test, Funeral Service test, GED, GRE, GMAT - you get the idea. According to their general blurb, they have experts in the field writing the flashcards. Does anyone know any histotech involved in writing the flashcards? I'd love for them to talk about this. I think for some people, having flashcards would fit with their style of learning - give them soundbites of information on topics, instead of having them read entire books. Or use this as a supplement to studying. Or have them in their purse/pocket where they can pull out a card and study on the go, instead of a book. But I do have some concerns about the flashcards and the test taking information this company supplies. If there is someone out there who helped write the cards, or someone who has bought the cards to respond, that would be helpful. - They have topics divided into 2 tests (have to pay separate for them) - HT and HTL. But when I look at what's on the HT exam vs. what's on the HTL exam, I have some concerns. - HTL need to know chemical fixatives, HT are supposed to know chemical and physical fixation. - HTL need to know autolysis, HT are supposed to know autolysis and putrefaction - HTL need to know acid decalcification, HT are supposed to know decalcification and chelation - HT are supposed to know Immunofluorescence, Electron microscopy, Carbowax and Celloidin, which are not listed on the HTL topics (yet ASCP HTL exam would include these topics, but ASCP HT exam would not) - The only stains listed for HT are H&E, Mucopolysaccharides, Hyaluronidase, Gomori Trichrome. - HTL stains include Connective tissue, PTAH, Bacteria, Fungus, Gram, Auramine-Rhodamine, Exogenous pigments, Minerals. Yet on the ASCP HT exam, all these stains are also required for the HT exam. You get the idea. Also, under the "Histotechnology Exam Secrets Study Guide", they are saying that their histotechnology exam study guide will help people "beat the test taking game", and that their research in the HT and HTL exam offered by ASCP "reveals specific weaknesses that you can exploit". Basically, what followed were test taking tips - how to guess to your advantage, how to tell the difference between right answers and clever sounding traps, how random bits of information often give away the right answer, how to look for key words to identify the correct answer, etc. Yet I know that the ASCP Board of Registry has (or at least did have) a psychometrician on staff - someone with a PhD in test writing, who works with the histotechs and pathologists writing the exam questions, to eliminate all the above "clues". Between this company's "tips" and the customer testimonials that they only studied for 1 week (one case, 5 hours) and passed the exam - I'm worried about people who aren't studying for the HT/HTL exam, and think these test taking clues will help them pass. This isn't like taking the GRE, where you can get by with some math and grammar background that can to be refreshed - the HT and HTL exams are based on a LOT of information that has to be LEARNED and APPLIED. The other concern I have is that the 3 flashcards they show as examples are still MEMORIZED information. What test takers have problems with are the PROBLEM-SOLVING and TROUBLESHOOTING aspects of the HT and HTL exams. Yes, they need to know what the oxidizer in the retic stain is, but they also need to know how to tell if it isn't working, or what to do if they run out, etc. So I'd love to hear from someone involved with writing these flashcards/study guides, and would love to hear from someone who actually bought them and used them. Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS Beaumont Hospital Royal Oak, MI 48073 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristen Yaros Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:12 PM To: Histonet Subject: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards? Has anyone heard of these? I just came across this site and was wondering if anyone has used these pre-made flash cards. http://www.flashcardsecrets.com/histotech/ -- Kristen Yaros, HT (ASCP)CM Histotechnology Society of Delaware Correspondence Secretary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
[Histonet] Re: [molecularbio] Re: D.N.A---PROTEIN...
Did anyone else see this as a bizarre question? My discomfort arises from the idea that someone would ask this question without spelling the words "please" and ""thanks" to an email to this list, and without thinking about their question What I mean to say is, if you can't figure out the RNA/DNA dogma (from whatever class or book, etc), why would you use text messaging to ask the answer? Don't we have google, or actual people to ask this question? And if you don't get that dogma, or its general idea, from lectures, shouldn't you be going to a school/mentor offering to teach you how to find the answer to your question? I understand some students may not get the idea of a central dogma from their studies, but applying to histonet seems the wrong answer to their confusion. I feel a question like this is easily answered by mentors/tutors. Or that students aren't understanding the basic ideas of replication and translation. Maybe it's a product of semantics, maybe it's a product of our ever increasing knowledge of DNA/RNA/protein interactions. Swiftly becoming a product of the before-internet world, Emily -- the velocity of time turns her voice into sugar water http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNA6zzoObxg ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
