[Histonet] Wilder's Reticulum stain

2009-01-15 Thread Kathy Lambeth


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Subject: Wilder's Reticulum stain
To: histo...@list.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 6:25 AM







I just relocated to a new lab and they use Wilder's Retic stain.  They have 
been unable to get uranium nitrate.  Is there a substitute; another supplier; 
or different technic they should use.  Any suggestions are welcome.
 
Kathy
 




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[Histonet] Type I and TYpe II Immunos for fiber typing

2009-01-15 Thread Heath, Nancy L.
Hi Everyone :)
 
Does anyone do or know of antibodies for immuno staining of muscle for
fiber typing?? If you do catalog numbers and company that you get the
antibodies from would be greatly appreciated and also your procedure
would also be nice :)
 
Neuropath Nancy @ RIH
 
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[Histonet] Question about Mercedes Medical star frost slides, comments?

2009-01-15 Thread Jamie E Erickson
Hi All,
   I was wondering if anyone out there has used Mercedes 
medical starfrost adhesive slides and how they hold up in IHC.
MER 7255 - Slides, adhesive, 90, Starfrost, 10 gross - $235. 
 I am thinking about changing to these slides from our VWR superfrost plus 
slides to save money but I would like to hear how they hold up in IHC Ag 
retrieval etc... I have samples from them and will try them on some IHC 
but I thought I'd get someone else's thoughts.  If you have an opinion on 
the quality of the slides please let me know.
Thanks,

Jamie

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[Histonet] PA job

2009-01-15 Thread Angela Bitting
Geisinger Medical Center in Danville, PA is searching for two 
Histotechnologists. We have a dayshift 0.6 tech position and a nightshift 8P-4A 
FT position available. Visit our website at www.geisinger.org to see more 
information about our Health System.  Contact me for more information at 
570-214-9634 or send me an email.

Angela Bitting, HT(ASCP)
Technical Specialist, Histology
Geisinger Medical Center 
100 N Academy Ave. MC 23-00
Danville, PA 17822
phone  570-214-9634
fax  570-271-5916 
 
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[Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Joe Hardin

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render 
prion infected tissue safe for sectioning?
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RE: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)
It will not. Check out the CDC and/or the WHO guidelines. 


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590 
jeanine.bartl...@cdc.hhs.gov


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Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render
prion infected tissue safe for sectioning?


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RE: [Histonet] Work flow, quality issues

2009-01-15 Thread Cheri Miller
What is the gain??? I am confused by their methods. I also face(rough cut)
and section on the same microtome. I noticed over the years that cuts on the
same microtome and block, one tech can get a thin section just by the way
they turn the flywheel. A heavy handed cutter can make the section thicker
on the same instrument and block. 

Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
Omaha, Ne. 
402 738 5052

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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Work flow, quality issues

I have worked in several HT labs and as expected most differ in individual
technique.  Most are very good as far as work flow from grossing,
processing, embedding and sectioning.  I work in a lab now where the
grossing and processing of like specimens are in case order until there
embedded.  Embedded totally out of order, even within a case.  One person
will rough cut the blocks on 1 microtome, approx 20 microns.  After all the
embedding is done the  trimmed  blocks are put in order, placed  on ice in
which about half are to be cut on another microtome.  Although the
microtomes are adjusted close I have found that by the time I'm ready to
section my blocks on the microtome not used for trimming I often have to go
into the tissue 20-40microns,  5 microns at a time, to get a complete
section.  This often makes it tough to get a good, rehydrated 2nd section
not to mention often the 1st if the event the tissue is larger and or firm
to start
 with.  Often I have to re-trim the blocks to match my microtome then
rehydrate them again.  This all takes time and makes it impossible to
section all my cases in order, waiting on blocks to rehydrate, hold slides
sometimes leading to mistakes.

I have always, and in every lab I worked except this one, trimmed my own
blocks for a specific microtome.  At the end of trimming, I always fine cut
4-5 microns 2-5 times to deminish the artifact often caused by too
aggressive initial trimming.  Then I rehydrate and ice the tissue..   With
this technique I use less knifes also.

I temped in this lab about 1/1/2 years ago and was asked by the Pathologist
and Lab Director to address these very issues and section quality.  Now that
I'm back nothing has changed.  The pathologist still has section quality
issues.  What ever happen to the idea of Quality Improvement.  The works
getting done I suppose, maybe thats all that matters these days.






  
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RE: [Histonet] Question about Mercedes Medical star frost slides, comments?

2009-01-15 Thread Weems, Joyce
We use their cheaper ones - CAS 9308 W - and they work just fine. j

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jamie E
Erickson
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:28 AM
To: histonet histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Question about Mercedes Medical star frost
slides,comments?

Hi All,
   I was wondering if anyone out there has used Mercedes
medical starfrost adhesive slides and how they hold up in IHC.
MER 7255 - Slides, adhesive, 90, Starfrost, 10 gross - $235. 
 I am thinking about changing to these slides from our VWR superfrost
plus slides to save money but I would like to hear how they hold up in
IHC Ag retrieval etc... I have samples from them and will try them on
some IHC but I thought I'd get someone else's thoughts.  If you have an
opinion on the quality of the slides please let me know.
Thanks,

Jamie

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FAX: 508-793-4895
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Re: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Jan Shivers

Joe,

I do IHC for prion diseases in animals.  No, tissue processing will NOT 
render prion-infected tissue safe for sectioning under normal conditions. 
Incubating in formic acid won't even totally inactivate the abnormal 
protein.  We have to use a dedicated microtome in a dedicated room, wear 
nitrile gloves and disposable lab coats and booties, and stain the slides on 
dedicated autostainers.


As others have said, check out the CDC website for more information.

Jan Shivers
UMN Vet Diag Lab


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Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing



Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render
prion infected tissue safe for sectioning?








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Re: [Histonet] Work flow, quality issues

2009-01-15 Thread Jan Shivers
I have my techs be the only person who handles a block from facing off to 
finished microtomy.  They put their initials on the slide label, so if that 
block needs recuts in the following days, the same tech and microtome will 
be used.  That way, the least amount of tissue is lost off the block face.


Jan Shivers
UMN Vet Diag Lab


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From: Steven Coakley sjchta...@yahoo.com

To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:53 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Work flow, quality issues


I have worked in several HT labs and as expected most differ in individual 
technique. Most are very good as far as work flow from grossing, processing, 
embedding and sectioning. I work in a lab now where the grossing and 
processing of like specimens are in case order until there embedded. 
Embedded totally out of order, even within a case. One person will rough cut 
the blocks on 1 microtome, approx 20 microns. After all the embedding is 
done the trimmed blocks are put in order, placed on ice in which about half 
are to be cut on another microtome. Although the microtomes are adjusted 
close I have found that by the time I'm ready to section my blocks on the 
microtome not used for trimming I often have to go into the tissue 
20-40microns, 5 microns at a time, to get a complete section. This often 
makes it tough to get a good, rehydrated 2nd section not to mention often 
the 1st if the event the tissue is larger and or firm to start
with. Often I have to re-trim the blocks to match my microtome then 
rehydrate them again. This all takes time and makes it impossible to section 
all my cases in order, waiting on blocks to rehydrate, hold slides sometimes 
leading to mistakes.


I have always, and in every lab I worked except this one, trimmed my own 
blocks for a specific microtome. At the end of trimming, I always fine cut 
4-5 microns 2-5 times to deminish the artifact often caused by too 
aggressive initial trimming. Then I rehydrate and ice the tissue.. With this 
technique I use less knifes also.


I temped in this lab about 1/1/2 years ago and was asked by the Pathologist 
and Lab Director to address these very issues and section quality. Now that 
I'm back nothing has changed. The pathologist still has section quality 
issues. What ever happen to the idea of Quality Improvement. The works 
getting done I suppose, maybe thats all that matters these days.








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RE: [Histonet] Question about Mercedes Medical star frost slides, comments?

2009-01-15 Thread Kelly Boyd
I made the switch to Mercedes a while back. I use their clipped corner slides 
(MER7200) because they work great on our slide printer. I also use their Plus 
Starfrost slides (MER7255) for our IHC. The sections stay on great, even 
through antigen retrieval. Probably the best plus slide I have used. Try their 
samples, I'm sure you will be pleased. 


Kelly D. Boyd, BS, HTL (ASCP)
Lab Manager
Harris Histology Services
2025 Eastgate Dr. Ste. F
Greenville, NC 27858
www.harrishisto.com 
 
Tele (252)-830-6866
Cell  (252)-943-9527
Fax  (252)-830-0032
 
 

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From: Weems, Joyce jwe...@sjha.org
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Question about Mercedes Medical star frost slides, 
comments?
To: Jamie E Erickson jamie.erick...@abbott.com, histonet histonet 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:39 AM


We use their cheaper ones - CAS 9308 W - and they work just fine. j

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Erickson
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:28 AM
To: histonet histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Question about Mercedes Medical star frost
slides,comments?

Hi All,
               I was wondering if anyone out there has used Mercedes
medical starfrost adhesive slides and how they hold up in IHC.
MER 7255 - Slides, adhesive, 90, Starfrost, 10 gross - $235. 
I am thinking about changing to these slides from our VWR superfrost
plus slides to save money but I would like to hear how they hold up in
IHC Ag retrieval etc... I have samples from them and will try them on
some IHC but I thought I'd get someone else's thoughts.  If you have an
opinion on the quality of the slides please let me know.
Thanks,

Jamie

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508-688-3134
FAX: 508-793-4895
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Re: [Histonet] Work flow, quality issues

2009-01-15 Thread Rene J Buesa
Steven:
Are you just complaining to vent some sort of frustration, or can you actually 
do something about it?
If venting, my sympathies go to you. What you describe could become the 
nightmare of anybody with the slightest idea about histology good practices, 
not to mention somebody that tries to take the flow into a more or less Lean 
semblance. The muda is astonishing.
 
If you can do something about, what you describe you are used to do is just 
what has to be done. Use your knowledge and credentials to try to solve the 
mess you describe.
You know how to do it and good luck. I am sure that somebody in that lab has 
done it that way for years and will be difficult to made to change.
René J.

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Steven Coakley sjchta...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Steven Coakley sjchta...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] Work flow, quality issues
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 3:53 PM

I have worked in several HT labs and as expected most differ in individual
technique.  Most are very good as far as work flow from grossing, processing,
embedding and sectioning.  I work in a lab now where the grossing and
processing of like specimens are in case order until there
embedded.  Embedded totally out of order, even within a case.  One person will
rough cut the blocks on 1 microtome, approx 20 microns.  After all the
embedding is done the  trimmed  blocks are put in order, placed  on ice in
which about half are to be cut on another microtome.  Although the microtomes
are adjusted close I have found that by the time I'm ready to section my
blocks on the microtome not used for trimming I often have to go into the tissue
20-40microns,  5 microns at a time, to get a complete section.  This often
makes it tough to get a good, rehydrated 2nd section not to mention often the
1st if the event the tissue is larger and or firm to start
 with.  Often I have to re-trim the blocks to match my microtome then
rehydrate them again.  This all takes time and makes it impossible to section
all my cases in order, waiting on blocks to rehydrate, hold slides sometimes
leading to mistakes.

I have always, and in every lab I worked except this one, trimmed my own blocks
for a specific microtome.  At the end of trimming, I always fine cut 4-5
microns 2-5 times to deminish the artifact often caused by too aggressive
initial trimming.  Then I rehydrate and ice the tissue..   With this
technique I use less knifes also.

I temped in this lab about 1/1/2 years ago and was asked by the Pathologist and
Lab Director to address these very issues and section quality.  Now that
I'm back nothing has changed.  The pathologist still has section quality
issues.  What ever happen to the idea of Quality Improvement.  The works
getting done I suppose, maybe thats all that matters these days.







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Re: [Histonet] Wilder's Reticulum stain

2009-01-15 Thread Rene J Buesa
Try phosphotungstic acid at the same concentration.
René J.

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Kathy Lambeth histoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Kathy Lambeth histoc...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] Wilder's Reticulum stain
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:04 AM


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Kathy Lambeth histoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Kathy Lambeth histoc...@yahoo.com
Subject: Wilder's Reticulum stain
To: histo...@list.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 6:25 AM







I just relocated to a new lab and they use Wilder's Retic stain.  They
have been unable to get uranium nitrate.  Is there a substitute; another
supplier; or different technic they should use.  Any suggestions are welcome.
 
Kathy
 




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Re: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Rene J Buesa
NO, it will not.
René J.

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu
Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:29 AM

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render prion
infected tissue safe for sectioning?
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[Histonet] New Dako IHC Instrument and T.P.I.D.

2009-01-15 Thread Fye Beth
I'm  curious if anyone out there has any feedback or comments on the new Dako 
IHC Instrument, Autostainer Link 48 and/or their TPID (True Positive ID).  We 
are in desparate need of replacing our current DAKO instruments, and are 
probably going to stick with DAKO again after looking at several other 
instruments.  I just thought I check to see if anyone using it has anything to 
say.

Beth



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Re: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Jackie M O'Connor
Viable prions have been found in 20 year old paraffin blocks.Only 
extended exposure to bleach will kill 'em - last I heard.   Not formalin, 
not processing - nothin. 

Jackie O'



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NO, it will not.
René J.

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu
Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:29 AM

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render 
prion
infected tissue safe for sectioning?
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RE: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)
Please read the protocols at the CDC and/or the WHO website.  Bleach in not 
effective. 


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590 
jeanine.bartl...@cdc.hhs.gov


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Viable prions have been found in 20 year old paraffin blocks.Only 
extended exposure to bleach will kill 'em - last I heard.   Not formalin, 
not processing - nothin. 

Jackie O'



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NO, it will not.
René J.

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu
Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:29 AM

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render 
prion
infected tissue safe for sectioning?
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[Histonet] paraffin

2009-01-15 Thread Debra D. Nannenga
Hello Histonetters:

We are currently using Surgipath's Formula R paraffin.  They are now charging 
us a handling fee for each container.  I have tried looking at different 
formulas at different companies trying to find a comparable formula.  It seems 
that no one will list the polymer combinations or ingredients.  I was wondering 
if anyone else had encountered this problem?  Does anyone know of a paraffin 
type that is similar to or the same as  the Formula R?  I would appreciate 
any feedback that folks are willing to share.

Thanks,
Debbie

Debbie Nannenga, HTL(ASCP),QIHC
InCyte Pathology
Spokane Valley, Washington


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RE: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Rosa Fields
An article entitled Safe Handling of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies 
Specimens in the Histopathology Laboratory written by Konnie Zeitner was 
published in the JOH June 2007.. 


Rosa Fields, HT (ASCP)
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Histology Supervisor
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jackie M 
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

Viable prions have been found in 20 year old paraffin blocks.Only 
extended exposure to bleach will kill 'em - last I heard.   Not formalin, 
not processing - nothin. 

Jackie O'



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NO, it will not.
René J.

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From: Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu
Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:29 AM

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render 
prion
infected tissue safe for sectioning?
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[Histonet] RE: Prion Contamination

2009-01-15 Thread Terri Braud
Not only will processing NOT render it safe, but your cut, stained, and mounted 
slides will still be infectious UNLESS the procedure to inactivate using formic 
acid is followed before fixation and processing. If the tissue is fixed 
(formalin or other common fixatives) then you would be actually fixing the 
prion's ability to NOT be inactivated. 
Prions are nasty little beasties, and best left to dedicated labs that do 
nothing else. 
Please refer to the link below for the WHO pdf document which will give you 
procedures for handling prion infected patient's and tissues.  
http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/bse/whocdscsraph2003.pdf
Section 8.2.2 directly addresses the Histopathology techniques to be used when 
handling these tissues.
So much about these self replicating proteins is unknown, and more forms are 
added to the list all the time.  
Currently, the CDC recognizes 5 human forms, including, 
Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) 
Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) 
Gerstmann-Straussler-Scheinker Syndrome 
Fatal Familial Insomnia 
Kuru 
There are also 6 Animal Prion Diseases:
Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) 
Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) 
Scrapie 
Transmissible mink encephalopathy 
Feline spongiform encephalopathy 
Ungulate spongiform encephalopathy
See the CDC link below for more information
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/prions/
and above all, Please, Please, Please be very careful.

Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
Laboratory
Holy Redeemer Hospital and Medical Center
1648 Huntingdon Pike
Meadowbrook, PA 19046
(215) 938-3676 phone
(215) 938-3689 fax
--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Joe Hardin har...@oncology.wisc.edu
Subject: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:29 AM

Hi All,
Does anyone know if tissue processing for paraffin embedding will render prion
infected tissue safe for sectioning?

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Re: [Histonet] prion contaminated tissue processing

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Carroll

 exposure to bleach will kill 'em - last I heard.

think about it... if that were the case, things like BSE and CJD 
wouldn't be able to taint meat-processing equipment, which is generally 
about as awash in bleach as anything could be, at least once per shift.





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[Histonet] Autoflourescence

2009-01-15 Thread Patten, Nicole (NIH/NIAAA) [F]
Hi-

I am having a horrible time with autofluorescence in my human brain FFPE
tissue. I have been using Sudan Black which helps a little, but the
background is still pretty bad. The tissue is usually cut at 10-15um.

Does anyone have any other suggestions? Has anyone tried photobleaching
the tissue prior to staining with any success? I attempted this once
with no luck...

Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance. 

Nicole

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Re: [Histonet] Autoflourescence

2009-01-15 Thread Andrea Hooper
10-15 um seems extremely thick for paraffin sections.
Can you get thinner sections? Say no thicker than 6um?
Unfortunately autofluorescence is a fact of life with FFPE sections, hence why 
people normally do not choose to do immunofluorescence on FFPE sections. Are 
you tethered to using immunofluorescence? There are alternatives.



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From: Patten, Nicole (NIH/NIAAA) [F] patte...@mail.nih.gov
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:36 pm
Subject: [Histonet] Autoflourescence

 Hi-
 
 I am having a horrible time with autofluorescence in my human 
 brain FFPE
 tissue. I have been using Sudan Black which helps a little, but the
 background is still pretty bad. The tissue is usually cut at 10-15um.
 
 Does anyone have any other suggestions? Has anyone tried 
 photobleachingthe tissue prior to staining with any success? I 
 attempted this once
 with no luck...
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance. 
 
 Nicole
 
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Re: [Histonet] Autoflourescence

2009-01-15 Thread Bob Nienhuis
The Wright Cell Imaging Facility at University Health Network
in Toronto has compiled information on reducing autofluorescence
from the Histonet archives into a booklet.
Very useful.

http://www.uhnres.utoronto.ca/facilities/wcif/fdownload2.html

Bob


On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Patten, Nicole (NIH/NIAAA) [F] 
patte...@mail.nih.gov wrote:

 Hi-

 I am having a horrible time with autofluorescence in my human brain FFPE
 tissue. I have been using Sudan Black which helps a little, but the
 background is still pretty bad. The tissue is usually cut at 10-15um.

 Does anyone have any other suggestions? Has anyone tried photobleaching
 the tissue prior to staining with any success? I attempted this once
 with no luck...

 Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance.

 Nicole

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[Histonet] thick paraffin sections for immunostaining

2009-01-15 Thread PALMER Jason (SVHM)
We would like to do immunostaining on thick FFPE sections for neuronal markers 
such as tyrosine hydroxylase so that we may trace neurons contained in 
non-brain tissue.  Section thickness will probably be in the order of 40-50 
microns, though perhaps thicker too.  I have searched histonet archives but 
have only found references to vibratome sections of brain tissue, wholemount 
embryos and free-floating sections that I assume were cut on a cryostat.  
Antibody penetration has been achieved using DMSO, ethanol extraction, acetone, 
triton-x 100 etc, but I was wondering if anybody had managed to use any of 
these methods successfully on thick paraffin sections of non-brain tissue - our 
tissue is predominantly connective / adipose in nature.  It is possible that we 
could do vibratome sections if we had to, but the tissues have already been 
collected, processed and paraffin blocked and would rather not have to do 
further experiments and tissue collection.

I did also note in the archives that in regular paraffin sections, antibody 
penetration and thus labelling with standard methods is only thought to be of 
the order of 2 microns.

Many thanks,

Jason

Jason Palmer

Bernard O'Brien Institute of Microsurgery
42 Fitzroy St, Fitzroy Victoria 3065
Australia
tel +61 3 9288 4018
fax +61 3 9416 0926
email: jason.pal...@svhm.org.au



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