[Histonet] Protocol for fluorescence of myofibers

2009-07-17 Thread J.P.H.M. van den Wijngaard


Dear experts of histonet,

Given my formal background (chemistry synthesis) and current experience 
(cardiovascular research) my question may seem either too simple of not well 
directed. Please forgive my inexperience in these matters. 
 
In short, I am looking for a simple method that enhances the fluorescence of 
the cardio myofibers. 

In our institution, we have constructed a special setup allowing for 
investigation of vessel morphology. This is carried out by infusing a 
fluorescent plastic that polymerizes into an organ and then serially slicing 
the specimen while after each slice a high resolution image is taken of the 
remaining bulk material. As such, we can create high resolution 3D images of 
the vasculature, e.g. of a heart or kidney. 

Recently we have extended our setup (we are using a 16mpixel cooled camera 
which also allows very long exposure times) and are now trying to visualize the 
muscle fibers of the heart. For this we use a powerled (around 400nm) and image 
at around 600nm which seems to generates images that show autofluorescence of 
either collagen or muscle (I am unsure which this may be). Given these initial 
promising results, I would like to visualize the muscle fibers in more detail 
by using a staining protocol that would allow to stain post mortem hearts. I 
have gathered information so far that includes the use of ALA or Bouin's 
solution but there may be much better protocols suitable for this problem. 
I appreciate all feedback, thank you in advance,

Jeroen

Jeroen PHM van den Wijngaard, PhD

Department of Biomedical Engineering and Physics
Academic Medical Center
Meibergdreef 9, 1105 AZ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Tel: +31 (20) 5668796



 


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[Histonet] von kossa

2009-07-17 Thread Madary, Joseph
I did a von kossa day the other since it was sunny out and never thought to use 
a hema counterstain.  I will try that next time!  I use ammonia water too as a 
bluing agent.

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   4. Re: Quality Stuff (Rene J Buesa)
   5. Re: Biological hood with grossing station (Joseph Saby)
   6. RE: Hi   Jan, (Tony Henwood)
   7. Re: Hi   Jan, (Victor Tobias)
   8. Re: Quality Stuff (theci...@yahoo.com)
   9. VonKossa's calcium stain (karine cadoret)
  10. RE: VonKossa's calcium stain (Tony Henwood)
  11. Re: VonKossa's calcium stain (Jack Ratliff)
  12. Protocol for fluorescence of myofibers
  (J.P.H.M. van den Wijngaard)
  13. NSH Meeting in Alabama (mtitf...@aol.com)


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Hi   Jan,
Thanks for your input! I have two A. S. degrees. One in veterinary 
nursing/technology and one in histology. And I have an AA where all my 
electives were biology,chemistry and micro. Then I'll have a BS in veterinary 
nursing/management. I'm starting a molecular program in January. So, I have a 
strong skills in courses you mentioned. I'm sure I want to do the R  D 
techniques but not so sure about the management!
The other thing about a histology career is learning how vast the field is. Did 
anyone ever have a counselor in their program that explained the different 
types of positions? I'm looking forward to attending the NSH convention in 
October. It will be my first one!
Carrie





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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello,
I work in a derm lab and we do all the grossing.  We hand write on all of our 
blocks and slides, so you can imagine we have mislabelings from time-to-time.  
I was wondering if other labs have acceptable limits set for errors such as 
these, and if so what are they like? I am working on setting standards and 
corrective actions for errors in the lab.  Thank you for any input.


  

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:21:00 -0500
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To: kristen arvidson arvidsonkris...@yahoo.com, histonet
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There is NO margin of error acceptable in mislabeling blocks or slides. I 
expect 100% compliance with this in my department. When you have like specimens 
all day like derm, you cannot make labeling errors.

Mike

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Hello,
I work in a derm lab and we do all the grossing.  We hand write on all of our 
blocks and slides, so you can imagine we have mislabelings from time-to-time.  
I was wondering if other labs have acceptable limits set for errors such as 
these, and if so what are they like? I am working on setting standards and 
corrective actions for errors in the lab.  Thank you for any input.


  
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Quality Stuff
To: histonet histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu,   

[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 68, Issue 21

2009-07-17 Thread prashant sareen

Why dont you use NFR as counterstain for Von kassa?
 
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 3. RE: Quality Stuff (Mike Pence)
 4. Re: Quality Stuff (Rene J Buesa)
 5. Re: Biological hood with grossing station (Joseph Saby)
 6. RE: Hi Jan, (Tony Henwood)
 7. Re: Hi Jan, (Victor Tobias)
 8. Re: Quality Stuff (theci...@yahoo.com)
 9. VonKossa's calcium stain (karine cadoret)
 10. RE: VonKossa's calcium stain (Tony Henwood)
 11. Re: VonKossa's calcium stain (Jack Ratliff)
 12. Protocol for fluorescence of myofibers
 (J.P.H.M. van den Wijngaard)
 13. NSH Meeting in Alabama (mtitf...@aol.com)
 
 
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 Hi Jan,
 Thanks for your input! I have two A. S. degrees. One in veterinary 
 nursing/technology and one in histology. And I have an AA where all my 
 electives were biology,chemistry and micro. Then I'll have a BS in veterinary 
 nursing/management. I'm starting a molecular program in January. So, I have a 
 strong skills in courses you mentioned. I'm sure I want to do the R  D 
 techniques but not so sure about the management!
 The other thing about a histology career is learning how vast the field is. 
 Did anyone ever have a counselor in their program that explained the 
 different types of positions? I'm looking forward to attending the NSH 
 convention in October. It will be my first one!
 Carrie
 
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
 From: kristen arvidson arvidsonkris...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Histonet] Quality Stuff
 To: histonet histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Message-ID: 685857.31127...@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Hello,
 I work in a derm lab and we do all the grossing.  We hand write on all of our 
 blocks and slides, so you can imagine we have mislabelings from time-to-time. 
  I was wondering if other labs have acceptable limits set for errors such as 
 these, and if so what are they like? I am working on setting standards and 
 corrective actions for errors in the lab.  Thank you for any input.
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:21:00 -0500
 From: Mike Pence mpe...@grhs.net
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Quality Stuff
 To: kristen arvidson arvidsonkris...@yahoo.com, histonet
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Message-ID:
 661949901a768e4f9cc16d8af8f2838c017a3...@is-e2k3.grhs.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 There is NO margin of error acceptable in mislabeling blocks or slides. I 
 expect 100% compliance with this in my department. When you have like 
 specimens all day like derm, you cannot make labeling errors.
 
 Mike
 
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kristen 
 arvidson
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:15 PM
 To: histonet
 Subject: [Histonet] Quality Stuff
 
 
 Hello,
 I work in a derm lab and we do all the grossing.  We hand write on all of our 
 blocks and slides, so you can imagine we have mislabelings from time-to-time. 
  I was wondering if other labs have acceptable limits set for errors such as 
 these, and if so what are they like? I am working on setting standards and 
 corrective actions for errors in the lab.  Thank you for any input.
 
 
 
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 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] Quality Stuff
 To: histonet histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, kristen arvidson
 arvidsonkris...@yahoo.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 There are no acceptable standards for mistakes. The present tendency of 
 implementing the 6σ 

Re: [Histonet] NSH Meeting in Alabama

2009-07-17 Thread Phyllis Thaxton
I agree Michael!!!
 Phyllis Thaxton HT(ASCP)QIHC
DCH Regional Medical Center
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Subject: [Histonet] NSH Meeting in Alabama

With the NSH Annual Convention in Alabama this year, I don't want any corny 
jokes on the Histonet?about my adopted home state!? Might hurt my feelings!

Michael Titford
Pathology USA
Mobile AL
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RE: [Histonet] What percent of HTL's do not have a BS degree?

2009-07-17 Thread Ingles Claire
Here, Here! 
Try getting a job with a straight BS anyway... I had to go back to school to 
get a marketable job and was going to go for an MLT degree until I saw the 
Histology program in the tech school catalogue. This is what I have always 
wanted to do without knowing the name for it. Besides, the phlebotomy bit makes 
me a bit squeemish. I can deal with anything in the gross room or morgue with 
no problem though. :)
I love the lifetime of learning bit, and so far I have been lucky to be able to 
indulge my curiosity and learn more. I essentially have 3 degrees (BS Biology 
w/ a major in English, and an AA in Histotechnology) for my HTL, which I took 
because who knows what the future may hold. Besides, why pay to take both 
exams? Not interested in managerial stuff though, just like to rat around in 
the lab. I have to order supplies and keep up the paperwork. That is plenty for 
me thanks. I like to get my hands dirty. (darn Schiffs)
I have actually known a few people who have worked as histologists while 
waiting to get into med school. Doesn't sound dead-end to me. There are many 
ways histology can be used as a starting place for other jobs with more ceiling 
space. Creativity and ambition are the keys. (and a bit more hard work) Nothing 
worthwhile is ever easy.
Claire
 
P.S. Anyone about to nit-pic my grammar, I have a English Major with an 
emphasis in Literature. Never could diagram sentences.



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Sent: Tue 7/14/2009 6:02 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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I would just like to add that in my  opinion it is people who make statements 
like the one below that are holding our field back from being seen as a career. 
 The hospitals as well as the doctors are also to blame.  I am very proud to 
have a B.S. and A.S.S. degree and an HTL certification.  I would really like to 
see a monkey do my job and still achieve the high GLP standards and high 
quality of work that is required to get medical devices approved for human use. 
 It makes me sad to hear people say that this is just a job not a career.  I do 
not believe that anyone should be allowed to just come off the street and do 
our job.  It up to us as a community to demand that institutions require 
certification and recognize our educations.  I don't know about anyone else out 
there but my education cost me a lot of money and will keep me in debt for many 
years.  I didn't waste all that money on just a job this is my career and I 
am very proud of the work I do.

Nikki




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RE: [Histonet] nuclear bubbling

2009-07-17 Thread Harrison, Sandra C.
How about microwaving to dry slides?  Can that cause nuclear bubbling?  

When you say completely drained off, does that mean your slides have to be 
completely dry prior to placing them in the oven?

Thanks,
Sandy

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Subject: Re: [Histonet] nuclear bubbling

Anybody can experience nuclear bubbling in any type tissue as long as the 
sections as set to dry at high temperature BEFORE they are completely drained 
off!
René J.

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Subject: [Histonet] nuclear bubbling
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Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 3:45 PM


Has anyone experienced nuclear bubbling on prostate biopsies? 



Joyce 





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[Histonet] Fat histology

2009-07-17 Thread kbowden
I work with bone and connective tissue.  I have just been asked to 
process and section some fat.  I would like to get some information on 
how to work with fat. Any information will be very helpful.


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RE: [Histonet] NSH Meeting in Alabama

2009-07-17 Thread Morken, Tim
Bless your li'l ol' hearts y'all, we wouldn't dream of it! However, I will 
accustom myself to grits and okra before leaving for Birmingham!

Tim Morken
UCSF Medical Center
San Francisco, CA  
 
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I agree Michael!!!
 Phyllis Thaxton HT(ASCP)QIHC
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Subject: [Histonet] NSH Meeting in Alabama

With the NSH Annual Convention in Alabama this year, I don't want any corny 
jokes on the Histonet?about my adopted home state!? Might hurt my feelings!

Michael Titford
Pathology USA
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[Histonet] Fat histology

2009-07-17 Thread Michelle MacVeigh-Aloni
Hi Karen,

I had the same problem recently. 
I got very good advise trough the histonet for working with fat. You might want 
to check the arhives.

In my case, I was in a big time crunch with this dog fat, so after all the fat 
was collected and stored for a while in 10% NBF I did'nt have any time to post 
fix it, I just had to put it in the processor. It came out great! 
I used 1 hour in all steps and the steps are:

1Formalin1 hour
280%  1 hour
395%  1 hour
495%  1 hour
5100%1 hour
6100%1 hour
7100 %   1 hour
8Clear Rite  1 hour
9Clear Rite  1 hour
10  Clear Rite  1 hour
11  Paraffin  1 hour
12  Paraffin  1 hour
13  Paraffin  1 hour
14  Paraffin  1 hour

I did it again few days ago (the same way) and again had great result. We also 
did IF on this fat and it worked great as well.

Good luck with it
Michelle

Research Specialist 
USC Keck School of Medicine
Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [Histonet] VonKossa's calcium stain. Counterstain etc

2009-07-17 Thread John Kiernan
Any haemalum will do, but blue is not the most pleasing contrast to go with the 
black silver deposits. Pink or light red is better. Here are three pink to red 
counterstains, all traditional. Check in a textbook or manual for instructions.
 
   1. Neutral red (CI 50040) is good: 0.5% in water; adjust to pH4 with acetic 
acid; stain for about 2 minutes; the solution keeps for at least 5 years and 
can be used repeatedly.  
   2. Safranine O (CI 50240) can be used similarly but needs a longer staining 
time. 
   3. Nuclear fast red (CI 60760) is also OK: NFR 0.2G, aluminium sulphate 
crystals 10G, water 200ml; heat until it boils, cool overnight, decant and 
filter; stain for 5-10min. The solution is good for about a year; always filter 
before using.
 
The Biological Stain Commission has standards for certification of all three of 
these dyes. Certified neutral red and safranine O have been available for many 
(50+) years. Nuclear fast red was only recently added to the BSC's list. See 
Frank et al 2007. Certification procedures for nuclear fast red (Kernechtrot), 
C.I. 60760. Biotechnic  Histochemistry 82: 35-39. Certified NFR powder may not 
yet be available to labs or to vendors of stain solutions. If you buy a 
ready-made solution of any dye you should choose one that was made from a 
BSC-certified batch of the powder. 
 
To any vendors of dye powders who read this message: email me for more 
information about the certification criteria for nuclear fast red.  Also, check 
out http://www.biologicalstaincommission.org and click on one of the Vendors 
tabs or links.
 
John Kiernan
Anatomy,  UWO
London, Canada
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- Original Message -
From: karine cadoret kcado...@amc.edu.au
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009 22:36
Subject: [Histonet] VonKossa's calcium stain
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

 Hi, 
 
 When doing a VonKossa stain in order to demonstrate calcium in tissue,
 does it matter much if I use Mayer's hematoxylin instead of Ehrlich's
 hematoxylin (which takes 6 months to ripen) ? 
 
 Also, can I simply use homemade scott's tapwater for blueing 
 instead of
 using a lithium carbonate solution ? 
 
  
 
 Thank you for your help, 
 
  
 
 Karine Cadoret
 
 Fish health laboratory manager
 
 National Center for Marine Conservation and Resource Sustainability
 
 Newnham, TAS
 
 Australia 
 
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