Re: [Histonet] Sakura Embedding

2009-11-25 Thread Victor Tobias
As I recall you don't have to do anything special at the time of 
embedding, but what is it like for the person grossing? They have to 
correctly orientate the tissue or the specimen could be ruined?


Victor

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i am - love it!!

2009/11/25 Linke, Noelle nli...@mednet.ucla.edu

  

Is anyone using the Sakura TissueTek AutoTec automated embedding machine in
their lab?  Do you like it?

Thank you!
Noelle

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Re: [Histonet] In need of light bulbs

2009-11-25 Thread alan taylor

Hi Jim

Although we are based in the UK we obtain our replacement bulbs from a 
company in Chicago called Topbulb. They have a huge range of lamps and bulbs 
for microscopes, lab equipment and medical equipment. Their prices are 
competitive and they offer a quick service. I'm sure that if you gave them 
your model number details their staff would be able to help you. I must add 
that I have no interest in this lamp supply company.


Happy hunting and good luck.

Alan Taylor
Microtechnical Services
71 Sweetbrier Lane
Heavitree
Exeter
Devon. EX1 3AJ. UK
Tel: 044 (0)1392 660132
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Subject: [Histonet] In need of light bulbs


Does anyone know what size bulb fits the Shandon embedding station, model
#6404?  There are two of them at the spigot.  Both of mine are burnt out
and neither have any numbers on the glass or base!

Gracias

Jim

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[Histonet] (no subject)

2009-11-25 Thread Taylor, Robin
We have been having processing problems for a while now and cannot resolve it. 
It only happens on weekends. When we embed and cut on Monday morning, alot of 
our larger pieces of tissue, especially  breast, are not fixed and processed 
well. I would expect the opposite especially since they are in formalin for an 
additional 48 hours. We do not work Saturdays (sorry guys) so the tissue is 
grossed and submitted on Friday. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this 
would be and what I can do to fix it. Thanks so much.
Robin Taylor HT
Butler County Medical Center
Hamilton, OH



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[Fwd: RE: [Histonet] Sakura Embedding]

2009-11-25 Thread Victor Tobias

Wanted to share this reply.

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Subject:RE: [Histonet] Sakura Embedding
Date:   Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:56:56 -0500
From:   Durden, Kelley kelleydur...@pathology.ufl.edu
To: 'Victor Tobias' vic...@pathology.washington.edu
References: 
0c96f0bfe078d74c91a1c541d24a6ae4968cd...@emgmb1.ad.medctr.ucla.edu 
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Hey Victor,

Just went out to CA last month for Sakura training on the VIP 6 and got to look at the 
dream lab Sakura just set up.

Very cool!  At that lab they have the Automatic Embedding system.  What they do to get proper orientation at the time of grossing is they've developed special cassettes that have, for lack of a better word, baskets.  They have a biopsy cassette basket, a basket that could be used for tubular structures (ie vas deferens), they have a basket for larger specimens (uterus etc) and baskets that have rows for breast bx and prostate bx.  


The whole idea is to maintain orientation all the way through the process.  The 
tissues are oriented in these cassette baskets at the time of grossing.  They 
are loaded onto the processor, then loaded into the auto embedding center.  
Never having to re orient the samples.

Then the baskets are embedded directly into the paraffin wax and are sectioned.  You 
section right through the basket.  It is made of a special type of plastic that is 
sectionable.  It is a really cool idea and process to watch.

I brought home some samples of the baskets so I could try them here in our lab 
even though we don't have the auto embedding station.  We sectioned through a 
couple of the different basket varieties and got good results.

I'd contact my Sakura rep for some samples so you could try to section with the 
basket and see if it works for you.

We don't have the volume that would necessitate an auto embedder b/c we are a 
research lab - but if we could justify it I'd love to have it.

On another note - we love our VIP 6 processor and the training they sent me for 
was phenomenal.

Hope this helps!


Kelley 




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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:33 AM
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Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Linke, Noelle
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura Embedding

As I recall you don't have to do anything special at the time of 
embedding, but what is it like for the person grossing? They have to 
correctly orientate the tissue or the specimen could be ruined?


Victor

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Clinical Applications Analyst
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i am - love it!!

2009/11/25 Linke, Noelle nli...@mednet.ucla.edu

  

Is anyone using the Sakura TissueTek AutoTec automated embedding machine in
their lab?  Do you like it?

Thank you!
Noelle

Noёlle Linke M.S., HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager, Histology Services
Department of Pathology  Laboratory Medicine
David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Phone: 310-825-7397
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Re: [Histonet] (no subject)

2009-11-25 Thread Drew Meyer
I'd be curious to see how you have your processor times set for each
station.  I'm sure you're using a different setting on the weekends to
account for the longer time.  Have you made sure that all the other
stations are getting the same time they normally get during the week?

Drew

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robin.tay...@prexushealth.com wrote:
 We have been having processing problems for a while now and cannot resolve 
 it. It only happens on weekends. When we embed and cut on Monday morning, 
 alot of our larger pieces of tissue, especially  breast, are not fixed and 
 processed well. I would expect the opposite especially since they are in 
 formalin for an additional 48 hours. We do not work Saturdays (sorry guys) so 
 the tissue is grossed and submitted on Friday. Does anyone have any ideas as 
 to why this would be and what I can do to fix it. Thanks so much.
 Robin Taylor HT
 Butler County Medical Center
 Hamilton, OH


 
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RE: [Histonet] (no subject)

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Cartun
I keep hearing that the guidelines will be changed to 6-72 hours.  
Therefore, I wouldn't make any changes right now unless you are getting 
suboptimal results.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, Ph.D.
Director, Histology  Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596
(860) 545-0174 Fax

 Mike Pence mpe...@grhs.net 11/25/2009 11:03 AM 
Side note question - How are you dealing with the timing issues with
breast specimens being fixed in formalin for greater than 48 hr in
regard to her-2 requirements with not working Saturdays?

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Robin
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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] (no subject)


We have been having processing problems for a while now and cannot
resolve it. It only happens on weekends. When we embed and cut on Monday
morning, alot of our larger pieces of tissue, especially  breast, are
not fixed and processed well. I would expect the opposite especially
since they are in formalin for an additional 48 hours. We do not work
Saturdays (sorry guys) so the tissue is grossed and submitted on Friday.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this would be and what I can do to
fix it. Thanks so much. Robin Taylor HT Butler County Medical Center
Hamilton, OH



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RE: [Histonet] (no subject)

2009-11-25 Thread Laurie Colbert
We don't work on Saturdays, either.  Our pathologists come in on Sunday
to gross, so they take the breast specimens off of the processor and
place them in a plastic container.  On Monday morning, we melt them down
and embed and cut them.
We have three processors and one is set up for breast and/or fatty
specimens.  I have a separate program for the weekend.  I extend the
times in all of the solutions, especially xylene and paraffin, to
improve the overall processing of the breast specimens.

Laurie Colbert

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] (no subject)

Side note question - How are you dealing with the timing issues with
breast specimens being fixed in formalin for greater than 48 hr in
regard to her-2 requirements with not working Saturdays?

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Robin
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We have been having processing problems for a while now and cannot
resolve it. It only happens on weekends. When we embed and cut on Monday
morning, alot of our larger pieces of tissue, especially  breast, are
not fixed and processed well. I would expect the opposite especially
since they are in formalin for an additional 48 hours. We do not work
Saturdays (sorry guys) so the tissue is grossed and submitted on Friday.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this would be and what I can do to
fix it. Thanks so much. Robin Taylor HT Butler County Medical Center
Hamilton, OH



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AW: [Histonet] Biopsy fixation

2009-11-25 Thread Gudrun Lang
Kris,
why don't you leave the skin biopsies in NBF over night? 
At our institute it is usual practice to let this specimens fix until next
day, if they arive after 1 p.m. I cannot see a negative effect.
For me 4 hours in formalin are too less for a good fixation. How long is the
duration of fixation in the infiltration processor? Aren't the biopsies
rather brittle while cutting, due to secondary fixation with ethanol?

Gudrun

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Betreff: [Histonet] Biopsy fixation

Hello All,
 
I have a simple fixation question.  Typically when we process 3 mm skin
biopsies we will fix in 10% NBF for 4 hours and then wash in PBS and
then process over night into paraffin and then embed.  If we are unable
to immediately process the 3mm skin biopsies after 4 hr fixation what is
the maximum time we can leave the biopsies in 70% alcohol before
processing into paraffin?  Is there a better reagent, such as PBS, other
than alcohol to leave the biopsy in for a few days before tissue
processing.  Thank you in advance.
 
Kris  
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[Histonet] weekend proc. fix -- a simple idea

2009-11-25 Thread Cheryl
hi Robin-
 
IThere are a dozen ways to address this but a very simple one without extra 
resources might be this:
 
Set your processor with the extra 24-48 hours held in the first alcohol. You 
probably don't want to spread the time across the whole machine or your end 
product will be VERY different than your weekly processing.  70% doesn't harden 
the biopsies and meets the fixation requirements currently under regulations. 
This works if you don't add to the processors after they're first loaded--set 
your end time for Monday morning and go! Once they change the reg to 6-72 
hours, then rethink the distribution of time. 
 
All the other solutions are valid, but his way you don't have to obligate the 
pathologists to extra handling or have to deal with more than one processor and 
it's still inside current regs.
 
Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Cheryl Kerry, HT(ASCP)
Full Staff Inc. 
800.756.3309
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RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [Histonet] (no subject)

2009-11-25 Thread Patsy Ruegg
Are they cutting the pieces extra thick because they are sitting over the
weekend, perhaps?  Even if the tissues are well fixed if they are too thick
they will not process well, especially breast fat.

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
IHCtech
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Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
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Cartun
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Mike Pence; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Robin Taylor
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [Histonet] (no subject)

I keep hearing that the guidelines will be changed to 6-72 hours.
Therefore, I wouldn't make any changes right now unless you are getting
suboptimal results.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, Ph.D.
Director, Histology  Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596
(860) 545-0174 Fax

 Mike Pence mpe...@grhs.net 11/25/2009 11:03 AM 
Side note question - How are you dealing with the timing issues with
breast specimens being fixed in formalin for greater than 48 hr in
regard to her-2 requirements with not working Saturdays?

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Taylor,
Robin
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:14 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] (no subject)


We have been having processing problems for a while now and cannot
resolve it. It only happens on weekends. When we embed and cut on Monday
morning, alot of our larger pieces of tissue, especially  breast, are
not fixed and processed well. I would expect the opposite especially
since they are in formalin for an additional 48 hours. We do not work
Saturdays (sorry guys) so the tissue is grossed and submitted on Friday.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this would be and what I can do to
fix it. Thanks so much. Robin Taylor HT Butler County Medical Center
Hamilton, OH



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RE: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] weekend proc. fix -- a simple idea

2009-11-25 Thread Patsy Ruegg
This would work but make sure your tissue is very well fixed 24-48hrs before
letting them sit in 70% or they will get alcohol fixed and that can be a
problem.

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
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Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:34 PM
To: robin.tay...@prexushealth.com
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] weekend proc. fix -- a simple idea

hi Robin-
 
IThere are a dozen ways to address this but a very simple one without extra
resources might be this:
 
Set your processor with the extra 24-48 hours held in the first alcohol. You
probably don't want to spread the time across the whole machine or your end
product will be VERY different than your weekly processing.  70% doesn't
harden the biopsies and meets the fixation requirements currently under
regulations. This works if you don't add to the processors after they're
first loaded--set your end time for Monday morning and go! Once they change
the reg to 6-72 hours, then rethink the distribution of time. 
 
All the other solutions are valid, but his way you don't have to obligate
the pathologists to extra handling or have to deal with more than one
processor and it's still inside current regs.
 
Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Cheryl Kerry, HT(ASCP)
Full Staff Inc. 
800.756.3309
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RE: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] Biopsy fixation

2009-11-25 Thread Patsy Ruegg
You can leave it in formalin for 48-72 hours without a problem, it might be
better than fixing just for 4 hours, some say adequate formalin fixation
takes at least 24 hours no matter the size of the sample.

Best regards,

Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
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12635 Montview Blvd. Ste.215
Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
www.ihctech.net 
www.ihcrg.org


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Kristopher
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:51 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] Biopsy fixation

Hello All,
 
I have a simple fixation question.  Typically when we process 3 mm skin
biopsies we will fix in 10% NBF for 4 hours and then wash in PBS and
then process over night into paraffin and then embed.  If we are unable
to immediately process the 3mm skin biopsies after 4 hr fixation what is
the maximum time we can leave the biopsies in 70% alcohol before
processing into paraffin?  Is there a better reagent, such as PBS, other
than alcohol to leave the biopsy in for a few days before tissue
processing.  Thank you in advance.
 
Kris  
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