Re: [Histonet] Re: Masson's trichrom - problem with nuclei staining

2010-09-20 Thread Itai Moshe
Hi,
What concentration of HCL are you using in solution B ?
is it 1% in the end, so i will have to use 3ml of the standard 36% HCL in
100ml, not just 1ml as mentioned in the protocols ?

Itai

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*In general, we found the original/classic Weigerts iron hematoxylin stain to
be weak and almost washed out of tissues after staining with Massons
Trichrome. We no longer use the original formula, but a more concentrated
modified formulation that is not differentiated out as much by the acidifed
solutions found in Mass Tri.  We also found this problem with Massons
Trichrome kit components, where companies probably package the original
method's solutions.

We make up Weigerts fresh each time, and if it will last for a week for you,
fine. but our work tends to be a one time staining with Mass Tri,
then weeks before it was done again.  The problem is: ferric chloride
continues to oxidize the hematoxylin throughout over time, that week or
longer, weakening the iron hematoxylin staining capabililty.   This is
discussed in Sheehan and Hrapchak Theory and Practice of Histotechnology.
Acid decalcified bone presents even more of a challenge, since nuclei
(DNA/RNA) in cells are hydrolyzed by acid decalcifiers, compromising
staining of nuclei, a problem seen with routine HE staining.  Deanna was
correct on her assessment of this stain for best results.

This modified  Weigerts Hematoxylin was published in J of Histotechnology in
a paper on Kreybergs stain on skin.  The second Extra Strength Weigerts was
found on Histonet years ago and I have not tried the latter.  I suggest you
see which one you prefer, as we use the first Modified Weigerts.  Over the
years, the modified gave us far superior nuclear staining with Massons
Trichrome.

Weigert's Iron Hematoxyin MODIFIED (found in J of Histotechnology in a
method for Kreybergs stain on mouse skin).

Solution A.

2% Hematoxylin in 95% ethanol

Solution B.

62% Ferric Chloride   4 ml

Distilled water   95 ml

Hydrochloric acid  1 ml

Mix equal amounts of Solution A and Solution B

MIX FRESH JUST BEFORE USE AND DISCARD AFTER USE.

Extra Strength Weigerts Iron Hematoxylin from Histonet (reference unknown,
but supposedly from J of Histotechnology and method originated by Mabel
Myli, Mayo Clinic)

 Solution A:  Hematoxylin   10 g

95% ethanol  100 ml

Solution B: 11.6 g Ferric Chloride
  980 ml Distilled water
   10 ml 25% hydrochloric acid

Working Stain Solution
   Solution A 5 ml
   Solution B 25 ml
   Absolute Ethanol  20 ml

Staining time for both of these formulations is 10 minutes, followed by
rinsing for 10 min in running tap water (hematoxylin will be black)

Gayle M. Callis
HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)


You Wrote:

I do Weigert's staining for 10 minutes and use it for a week at the most.
I,
too, have heard conflicting times about the stability of the Weigert's, but
have
the best results with using it no longer than a week.

Deanna Rhoads HT (ASCP)
 *
*2010/9/18 Andrea Marion **amar...@uic.edu**
*

 *Hi Itai,

 I am thinking that we will purchase a different Weigert's from another
 company, or try one of the modified ones that were recommended on the
 listserv.

 Running tap water only means that you are replacing the water the slides
 are sitting in continuously, so that they have a constant supply of fresh
 water. This removes any excess stain that may be bleeding from the slide,
 and prevents it from recoloring the water, and restaining the tissue.
 Essentially it helps pull more excess stain out of the slide. Leaving it
 in tap water does not have the same effect, because the dye will reach an
 equilibrium point whereby no more will be removed from the tissue. We use
 a coplin 

[Histonet] Cutting Microarrays

2010-09-20 Thread Rae Staskiewicz
 

Good Morning All,

 

I am having some issues when cutting a microarray containing 4mm punches.
The punches are rolling and separating from the paraffin during cutting.
Anyone have any tips or ideas??

 

Rae Staskiewicz

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

2010-09-20 Thread Edwards, Richard E.
Whilst  value  for  money and  costings  rule  then the  management will  
always look  to  save  $$$s by  hiring semi/unskilled 
personnel.the  other  point  in this  thread  is  that  
people  are  increasingly  using  the  Histonet as  an  on-line  and  up to  
date  text, which  is  surely  not  a bad  thing?.

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Jasper
Sent: 17 September 2010 22:09
To: james leroux
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

Hi James,

I would take it a step farther with the continuing ed.  I think it's beyond the 
supervisors it gets up into lab administration (clinical lab world).  I 
personally know of a group of great folks that work hard and run a quality 
service.  In the last 3 years they've had a major drop off in their continuing 
ed.  And it, of course, is tied to the budget.

Unfortunately, in this case (my view) those making the money decisions are 
missing the value.  It seems they're unwilling to make the investment.  I fear 
that in 5 years or less (if it continues) this service will suffer.  I suspect 
there are other folks out there in the same boat.  My hat is off to everyone 
out there working hard in our field and to the enlightened administrators and 
physicians that advocate continuing ed.

Have a great weekend.
Tom Jasper

Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS
Histology Supervisor
Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services
Bend, Oregon 97701
541/693-2677
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of james leroux
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:55 AM
To: 'Nails, Felton'; histot...@imagesbyhopper.com; 'mohamed abd el razik'; 
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

Felton,

  I would have to disagree with your assessment of the emails.  Our field is 
very strong and is not in decline.  Unfortunately, some supervisors around 
the country are relying on archaic methods and do not want to see or welcome 
change within the histo lab. We call ourselves professionals and yet not all of 
us are required to do continuing education?  I read emails everyday and laugh 
at some of the bloviating that goes on inside this forum.  I am glad the 
questions are asked, but I am also amazed at some of the responses that are 
shared with everyone.  I choose to respond one on one with the person asking 
the question.  Basic histology deals with didactics and this particular inquiry 
dealt more with OJT.  There are many ways to get the same job done; are there 
more efficient ways?  Probably, but this does not mean we all do our job the 
same way.  I am not concerned about the future of Histotechnology. I embrace 
the opportunity to teach the young technicians about a field that sees a change 
almost daily.  I am not here to offend either, but rather to defend an 
occupation that is as fascinating as it is frustrating.

Respectfully,
 

James Leroux, AAS, BA, HTL
Histology Supervisor
Petroglyph Pathology
640 Quantum Rd. 
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
(505) 924-0219

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nails, Felton
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:03 AM
To: 'histot...@imagesbyhopper.com'; 'mohamed abd el razik'; 
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

As I look through and monitor questions, it is apparent that our field is 
declining. These are very basic questions not about special stains or IHC 
stains but basic histology that should have been taught in histology 101. My 
fear is that as we get older and leave the field, who and what will be left to 
carry the torch. Those of you who ask, don't take offense to my thoughts but 
take action and pick up a book and read. You will improve yourself and the 
field.
Just my thoughts, if I offended you it was not my intent. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
histot...@imagesbyhopper.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
To: 'mohamed abd el razik'; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

My first reaction to the what is happening to our field, was WOW.  It seemed 
unkind to me, as if they original poster should not have asked these questions. 
 With further reading of the replies to this post, I am not so sure it was an 
unkind response, but one of potential shock and dismay to the idea that labs  
might not be producing the quality work that most of us employ on a daily basis.

Amy, in answer to your questions, I will echo some of the sentiments that I 
have read here.

1. Facing of blocks.  We use one 

Re: [Histonet] Cutting Microarrays

2010-09-20 Thread louise renton
hi, this sounds like the tissue was too cool when embedded in the wax - so
it has not made a nice homogenous block that cuts as one. Can u re-embed?

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Rae Staskiewicz raest...@grics.netwrote:



 Good Morning All,



 I am having some issues when cutting a microarray containing 4mm punches.
 The punches are rolling and separating from the paraffin during cutting.
 Anyone have any tips or ideas??



 Rae Staskiewicz

 MMCI

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RE: [Histonet] Cutting Microarrays

2010-09-20 Thread Helen Fedor
Hello, We have trouble with the larger size punches as well. In order to get 
the cores to stick to the size try warming the block in a oven at 37 degrees 
for 15 minutes, put the block face down on a clean slide. (providing the 
melting temperature of the paraffin is about 57 degrees). After 15 minutes 
remove the block/slide complex and gently press down on the block, then allow 
the block to cool. Repeat the process 3 or 4 times. We have also had some 
success by sliding the block face over the heating unit of the paraffin 
embedder. But this only works for a few sections and then you get the same 
problem back.

Best Regards,
Helen L. Fedor 

Tissue Microarray Lab, Manager
Prostate Tissue Spore Lab, Manager
Johns Hopkins University
600 N. Wolfe St, | Marburg Room 406
Baltimore, MD | 21287-7065

410.614.1660

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise renton
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 5:51 AM
To: Rae Staskiewicz; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Cutting Microarrays

hi, this sounds like the tissue was too cool when embedded in the wax - so
it has not made a nice homogenous block that cuts as one. Can u re-embed?

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Rae Staskiewicz raest...@grics.netwrote:



 Good Morning All,



 I am having some issues when cutting a microarray containing 4mm punches.
 The punches are rolling and separating from the paraffin during cutting.
 Anyone have any tips or ideas??



 Rae Staskiewicz

 MMCI

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RE: [Histonet] Cutting Microarrays

2010-09-20 Thread Helen Fedor
Hello, We have trouble with the larger size punches as well. In order to get 
the cores to stick to the size try warming the block in a oven at 37 degrees 
for 15 minutes, put the block face down on a clean slide. (providing the 
melting temperature of the paraffin is about 57 degrees). After 15 minutes 
remove the block/slide complex and gently press down on the block, then allow 
the block to cool. Repeat the process 3 or 4 times. We have also had some 
success by sliding the block face over the heating unit of the paraffin 
embedder. But this only works for a few sections and then you get the same 
problem back.

Best Regards,
Helen L. Fedor 

Tissue Microarray Lab, Manager
Prostate Tissue Spore Lab, Manager
Johns Hopkins University
600 N. Wolfe St, | Marburg Room 406
Baltimore, MD | 21287-7065

410.614.1660





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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise renton
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 5:51 AM
To: Rae Staskiewicz; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Cutting Microarrays

hi, this sounds like the tissue was too cool when embedded in the wax - so
it has not made a nice homogenous block that cuts as one. Can u re-embed?

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Rae Staskiewicz raest...@grics.netwrote:



 Good Morning All,



 I am having some issues when cutting a microarray containing 4mm punches.
 The punches are rolling and separating from the paraffin during cutting.
 Anyone have any tips or ideas??



 Rae Staskiewicz

 MMCI

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RE: [Histonet] Re: Masson's trichrom - problem with nuclei staining

2010-09-20 Thread Bernice Frederick
We use Weigert's for 7 minutes and never more than a week either. As a
precaution we keep it in the dark in a non-transparent container. That's the
way I was always taught (26 years and counting)
Bernice


Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Northwestern University
Pathology Core Facility
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Deanna
Rhoads
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:08 AM
To: Andrea Marion; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Cc: itai.mo...@mail.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Masson's trichrom - problem with nuclei staining

I do Weigert's staining for 10 minutes and use it for a week at the most. 
I, 
too, have heard conflicting times about the stability of the Weigert's, but
have 
the best results with using it no longer than a week.

Deanna Rhoads HT (ASCP)





From: Andrea Marion amar...@uic.edu
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Cc: itai.mo...@mail.huji.ac.il
Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 10:31:16 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Masson's trichrom - problem with nuclei staining

Hi Itai,

I am interested to hear if you've resolved this problem.  We use the same
kit to stain mouse heart and embryo sections, PFA fixed. Our protocol is
similar to the one you mentioned. I cannot get nuclei staining with this
method either. The nuclei are well stained (ie black) up to the PMA/PTA
step, but during that step the nuclear stain is completely removed. I
cannot shorten the PMA/PTA step without negatively effecting the collagen
stain.

I have in our original protocol that the Weigert's working solution is
good for one month, but I cannot recall if this is from Sigma's
specification sheet or a personal observation from a lab member.  However,
from reading online some say it is good up to 4 months, others say it
needs to be prepared fresh each time. I have tried fresh preparations with
the same results.

My instinct is that something is off - the staining is just not stable
enough to withstand the subsequent acid steps in Masson's trichrome. Can
an expert weigh in on this? Is there a way to strengthen nuclear staining
from Weigert's?

Sigma's formulas and usage recommendations are:

Part A: 1% w/v certified Hematoxylin in ethanol
Part B: 1.2% w/v Ferric chloride, 1% v/v Hydrochloric Acid

Combine equal volumes Part A and Part B, stain sections for 5 minutes.


Andrea Marion
Graduate Student
University of Illinois at Chicago
amario3 /at/ uic /dot/ edu


Itai Moshe itai.moshe @t mail.huji.ac.il
Wed Sep 15 11:34:51 CDT 2010

Hi Histonet's

I'm using Masson's trichrome to stain paraffin mice diaphragm fixed with
PFA.
I'm using this protocol:
http://www.bcm.edu/mcb/rosenlab/index.cfm?pmid=12997
http://www.bcm.edu/mcb/rosenlab/index.cfm?pmid=12997With sigma masson's
kit (#HT15) and Weigert's Iron Hematoxylin Set (#HT1079)
The staining is beautiful, but i can't see the nuclei good enough.
1) Is there a way to enhance the nuclei staining ? (the nuclei is the only
reason that im not using the simpler sirius red and fast green staining.)
2) What is the meaning for washing in running tap water washing, is it done
by putting the slides in a  jar with simple tap water for a few minutes ?

Thank's
Itai

P.S
By mistake I've post this before in another message with a wrong title.
please respond to that message, so the title will be o.k for future archive
searching.



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Re: [Histonet] Posting comments

2010-09-20 Thread Merced M Leiker

Agreed.

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As a newbie trying to learn as much as possible, I'm disappointed when
questions are posted and the responses are sent to the individual. I
learn more when the responses are shared. Also, an archive search on the
subject will have limited information. I would think there are many in
the same boat - those who want to learn more about the craft. Even a
review of the basics is good reading for me. That is why I reply all
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RE: [Histonet] How long ...

2010-09-20 Thread sgoebel

   First off you shouldn't leave Bouin's sitting for that long out o= n a
   shelf.   Once  the  water evaporates out of the solution it is extrem   ely  
flammable  (explosive  even I think?).  Also, you shouldn't leave
   ti=  ssue in alcohol forever either because you will end up with beef
   jerky su= per hard tissues.  If you want to keep it in alcohol, maybe
   make  up  an= alcoholic formalin solution.  I would say try to process
   it  if  it  is  =  needed  (it might be ok?), but if it was me I would
   probably  just  chalk  it  u=  p  to  the  tissue  is trash now...Good
   Luck...let me know what happens!!

   Sarah= Goebel, B.A., HT (ASCP)

   Histotechnician

   
   XBio= tech USA Inc.

   8201 East Riverside Dr. Bldg 4 Suite 100= /em

   Austin, Texas  78744

   = span style=color: rgb(51, 102, 255);(512)386-5107
   = /div

    Original Message 
   Subject: [Histonet] How long ...
   From: Massimo [1]max_histo...@yah= oo.it
   Date: Sun, September 19, 2010 3:41 pm
   To: [2]histo...@lists.uts= outhwestern.edu
   Cc: [3]histo...@lists.uts= outhwestern.edu
   Hi all,
   I  found into a shelf of the laboratory a small flask containing mouse
   sampl= es
   fixed in Bouin's fluid and preserved in ethanol at 70°, forgotten
   ther= e for a
   few years.
   I  wonder  if  it  would  be  possible  to  continue the process up to
   paraffin
   embedding for histological preparations.
   Some  time  ago  a  professor of biology at the University of Florence
   told me = that
   they could remain in alcohol for years, but on literature I found that
   the = time
   can not be so long without altering tissues.
   Has anyone had a similar experience?
   It's better to throw everything away or not?
   Thank you in advance.
   Kind Regards,
   Massimo Tosi
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[Histonet] Job Opening

2010-09-20 Thread Joyce Friedland
Hi All,
Our private derm-path lab, located in central-western New York State, has an 
immediate opening for a full time histotech to work days.  A relocation bonus 
is negotiable.
To learn more please contact me directly.
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[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 82, Issue 26

2010-09-20 Thread Nancy Schmitt
We have three CBG recyclers - two are used for formalin and one is used for 
alcohol/xylene.  They run every day and we have very little trouble with them.

Nancy Schmitt HT, MLT(ASCP)
Histology Coordinator
United Clinical Laboratories
Dubuque, IA 

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Hi All

I would like Pros and Cons regarding a CBG Recycler. Please- No Vendors.

Thanks

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FW: [Histonet] Posting comments

2010-09-20 Thread Dawson, Glen


-Original Message-
From:   Dawson, Glen  
Sent:   Monday, September 20, 2010 9:10 AM
To: 'Merced M Leiker'
Subject:RE: [Histonet] Posting comments

Carrie,

Until you've had some psychopath threaten you with a lawsuit, or threaten to 
tell on you with your current employer, it will be difficult to understand 
why most of us choose to reply directly to whomever posts the question.  I've 
had this happen to me on this list because someone out their did not agree 
with my general post  needed to act like a child to get his point across.  
I've responded directly to the person that posts the question ever 
since...basically to avoid the hassle.  I realize that this isn't the best 
situation for the distribution of useful information, but all of us need to 
remember that there will always be a small percentage of bad apples in the 
basket that is the histonet and that those of us that won't hit reply to all 
don't do so of our own accord.  
Glen Dawson  BS, HT  QIHC (ASCP)
IHC Manager
Milwaukee, WI

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]  On Behalf Of Merced M Leiker
Sent:   Monday, September 20, 2010 8:45 AM
To: Carrie Disbrow; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject:Re: [Histonet] Posting comments

Agreed.
* On Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:25 PM -0400 Carrie Disbrow 
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 As a newbie trying to learn as much as possible, I'm disappointed when
 questions are posted and the responses are sent to the individual. I
 learn more when the responses are shared. Also, an archive search on the
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 the same boat - those who want to learn more about the craft. Even a
 review of the basics is good reading for me. That is why I reply all
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[Histonet] Out of Office Reply

2010-09-20 Thread ctorrence
I will be out the office the week of September 20-24.

I will return on Monday, September 27th.

If you need laboratory assistance please call 785-273-2788 ext. 322.

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[Histonet] Questions

2010-09-20 Thread Senn, Amy R
I originally asked my questions because I *knew* it was being done
incorrectly and no one @ my workplace believed me when I tried to show
them the way I was taught/trained-as stated in my original post.

Regardless, it never occurred to me that my questions were something
that would be met with oh no or oh my gosh - I feel as though I
should apologize for my stupid question.

 

However, thank you, to those who responded with your procedures. I'm
making a great case based on what we know!

 

Have a good week!

 

 

Amy R. Senn

Holy Spirit Health System

503 N. 21st Street

Camp Hill, PA 17011

Phone: 717-763-2124

Fax: 717-763-2947

www.hsh.org



 

 

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[Histonet] (no subject)

2010-09-20 Thread Senn, Amy R
James, 

Well said. I totally agree

Thank you very much!

Amy

 

Message: 4

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:54:42 -0600

From: james leroux jler...@petroglyphpath.com

Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

To: 'Nails, Felton' flna...@texaschildrens.org,

  histot...@imagesbyhopper.com, 'mohamed abd el razik'

  k8...@yahoo.com,  Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Message-ID: 201009171758.o8hhw7cr085...@ame7.swcp.com

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 

Felton,

 

  I would have to disagree with your assessment of the emails.  Our
field is

very strong and is not in decline.  Unfortunately, some supervisors
around

the country are relying on archaic methods and do not want to see or
welcome

change within the histo lab. We call ourselves professionals and yet not
all

of us are required to do continuing education?  I read emails everyday
and

laugh at some of the bloviating that goes on inside this forum.  I am
glad

the questions are asked, but I am also amazed at some of the responses
that

are shared with everyone.  I choose to respond one on one with the
person

asking the question.  Basic histology deals with didactics and this

particular inquiry dealt more with OJT.  There are many ways to get the
same

job done; are there more efficient ways?  Probably, but this does not
mean

we all do our job the same way.  I am not concerned about the future of

Histotechnology. I embrace the opportunity to teach the young
technicians

about a field that sees a change almost daily.  I am not here to offend

either, but rather to defend an occupation that is as fascinating as it
is

frustrating.

 

Respectfully,

 

 

James Leroux, AAS, BA, HTL

Histology Supervisor

Petroglyph Pathology

640 Quantum Rd. 

Rio Rancho, NM 87124

(505) 924-0219

 

 

Joyce, 

As always, your 2 cents is 'right on'! 

Thank you!

Amy

 

 

Message: 2

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:07:16 -0400

From: Weems, Joyce jwe...@sjha.org

Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

To: Nails, Felton flna...@texaschildrens.org,

  'histot...@imagesbyhopper.com' histot...@imagesbyhopper.com,

  'mohamed abd  el razik' k8...@yahoo.com,

  Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

  Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Message-ID:

 
92ad9b20a6c38c4587a9febe3a30e16403984c0...@chexcms10.one.ads.che.org

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 

My 2 cents is that she needed to convince someone this was how it is
done! J

 

Joyce Weems 

Pathology Manager 

Saint Joseph's Hospital 

5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE 

Atlanta, GA 30342 

678-843-7376 - Phone 

678-843-7831 - Fax

Amy R. Senn

Holy Spirit Health System

503 N. 21st Street

Camp Hill, PA 17011

Phone: 717-763-2124

Fax: 717-763-2947

www.hsh.org



 

 

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[Histonet] RE: Questions

2010-09-20 Thread Shirley A. Powell
Amy, 

You do not need to apologize for asking a question to which you did not know 
the answer.  This is an educational avenue, for histology, and there is no such 
thing as a stupid question if you need answers to solve a problem.  

Those of us who teach know questions are important, even if you think you know 
the answer but not exactly sure, or in your case you knew but needed documented 
verification from others in the field.  I hope your fellow workers and 
supervisors got the message and please feel free to ask.  There are those in 
the field who feel this is a social network for experts and that is okay too, 
but the real reason NSH and histosearch was started was to expand knowledge of 
the histology community and to improve our profession.  Remembering when 
histology was in the basement and no one knew we were there, it makes me proud 
of the progress we have made in the 48 years I have been in the field.  

Keep asking and share what you know, no need for apologies.

Shirley




-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Senn, Amy R
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Questions

I originally asked my questions because I *knew* it was being done
incorrectly and no one @ my workplace believed me when I tried to show
them the way I was taught/trained-as stated in my original post.

Regardless, it never occurred to me that my questions were something
that would be met with oh no or oh my gosh - I feel as though I
should apologize for my stupid question.

 

However, thank you, to those who responded with your procedures. I'm
making a great case based on what we know!

 

Have a good week!

 

 

Amy R. Senn

Holy Spirit Health System

503 N. 21st Street

Camp Hill, PA 17011

Phone: 717-763-2124

Fax: 717-763-2947

www.hsh.org



 

 

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Questions

2010-09-20 Thread Tim Higgins
Agreed!

Thanks,

Timothy Higgins, HT(ASCP) QIHC
Histology Manager
APA
Amarillo, TX 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A.
Powell
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Senn, Amy R; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Questions

Amy, 

You do not need to apologize for asking a question to which you did not know
the answer.  This is an educational avenue, for histology, and there is no
such thing as a stupid question if you need answers to solve a problem.  

Those of us who teach know questions are important, even if you think you
know the answer but not exactly sure, or in your case you knew but needed
documented verification from others in the field.  I hope your fellow
workers and supervisors got the message and please feel free to ask.  There
are those in the field who feel this is a social network for experts and
that is okay too, but the real reason NSH and histosearch was started was to
expand knowledge of the histology community and to improve our profession.
Remembering when histology was in the basement and no one knew we were
there, it makes me proud of the progress we have made in the 48 years I have
been in the field.  

Keep asking and share what you know, no need for apologies.

Shirley




-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Senn, Amy R
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Questions

I originally asked my questions because I *knew* it was being done
incorrectly and no one @ my workplace believed me when I tried to show them
the way I was taught/trained-as stated in my original post.

Regardless, it never occurred to me that my questions were something that
would be met with oh no or oh my gosh - I feel as though I should
apologize for my stupid question.

 

However, thank you, to those who responded with your procedures. I'm making
a great case based on what we know!

 

Have a good week!

 

 

Amy R. Senn

Holy Spirit Health System

503 N. 21st Street

Camp Hill, PA 17011

Phone: 717-763-2124

Fax: 717-763-2947

www.hsh.org



 

 

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Re: [Histonet] RE: Questions

2010-09-20 Thread Kristen Lauing
Shirley and Amy and others responding to this thread: thanks for your posts.
I am not in the histotechnology field - I'm actually a graduate student at 
Loyola who does her own processing, cutting, and staining of bone tissue - so I 
really appreciate every so-called dumb question, no matter how simple, since 
I have never been formally trained in the field.  I assumed this was a great 
forum to safely ask those kinds of questions to advance my graduate student 
research.  I'm learning new details about histology every day just by reading 
posts by helpful people like you.  

Thanks  have a great week,
Kristen

 Shirley A. Powell powell...@mercer.edu 09/20/10 10:35 AM 
Amy, 

You do not need to apologize for asking a question to which you did not know 
the answer.  This is an educational avenue, for histology, and there is no such 
thing as a stupid question if you need answers to solve a problem.  

Those of us who teach know questions are important, even if you think you know 
the answer but not exactly sure, or in your case you knew but needed documented 
verification from others in the field.  I hope your fellow workers and 
supervisors got the message and please feel free to ask.  There are those in 
the field who feel this is a social network for experts and that is okay too, 
but the real reason NSH and histosearch was started was to expand knowledge of 
the histology community and to improve our profession.  Remembering when 
histology was in the basement and no one knew we were there, it makes me proud 
of the progress we have made in the 48 years I have been in the field.  

Keep asking and share what you know, no need for apologies.

Shirley




-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Senn, Amy R
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Questions

I originally asked my questions because I *knew* it was being done
incorrectly and no one @ my workplace believed me when I tried to show
them the way I was taught/trained-as stated in my original post.

Regardless, it never occurred to me that my questions were something
that would be met with oh no or oh my gosh - I feel as though I
should apologize for my stupid question.

 

However, thank you, to those who responded with your procedures. I'm
making a great case based on what we know!

 

Have a good week!

 

 

Amy R. Senn

Holy Spirit Health System

503 N. 21st Street

Camp Hill, PA 17011

Phone: 717-763-2124

Fax: 717-763-2947

www.hsh.org



 

 

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Re: [Histonet] RE: Questions

2010-09-20 Thread DKBoyd
Well said, Shirley! 

Debbie M. Boyd, HT(ASCP) l Chief Histologist l Southside Regional Medical 
Center I 
200 Medical Park Boulevard l Petersburg, Va.  23805 l T: 804-765-5050 l F: 
804-765-5582 l dkb...@chs.net







Shirley A. Powell powell...@mercer.edu 
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Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
cc

Subject
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Amy, 

You do not need to apologize for asking a question to which you did not 
know the answer.  This is an educational avenue, for histology, and there 
is no such thing as a stupid question if you need answers to solve a 
problem. 

Those of us who teach know questions are important, even if you think you 
know the answer but not exactly sure, or in your case you knew but needed 
documented verification from others in the field.  I hope your fellow 
workers and supervisors got the message and please feel free to ask. There 
are those in the field who feel this is a social network for experts and 
that is okay too, but the real reason NSH and histosearch was started was 
to expand knowledge of the histology community and to improve our 
profession.  Remembering when histology was in the basement and no one 
knew we were there, it makes me proud of the progress we have made in the 
48 years I have been in the field. 

Keep asking and share what you know, no need for apologies.

Shirley




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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Senn, Amy 
R
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Questions

I originally asked my questions because I *knew* it was being done
incorrectly and no one @ my workplace believed me when I tried to show
them the way I was taught/trained-as stated in my original post.

Regardless, it never occurred to me that my questions were something
that would be met with oh no or oh my gosh - I feel as though I
should apologize for my stupid question.

 

However, thank you, to those who responded with your procedures. I'm
making a great case based on what we know!

 

Have a good week!

 

 

Amy R. Senn

Holy Spirit Health System

503 N. 21st Street

Camp Hill, PA 17011

Phone: 717-763-2124

Fax: 717-763-2947

www.hsh.org



 

 

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[Histonet] Skills testing for a histo lab assistant

2010-09-20 Thread Cathy . Crumpton

   We  are  going to be posting a histology lab assistant position soo= n
   for  the first time.  I would like to give them a skills assessment t   est  
to  see  how  well  they  can handle a computer, numbers, problem
   solving,  a=  nd  what  their handwriting looks like.  Does anyone out
   there do this f= or their new hires?  What and how do you do to test?

   nb= sp;

   Cathy Crumpton HT(ASCP), Histology Lead
   Tuality Community = Hospital
   Hillsboro, OR 97123
   (503)681-1292

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[Histonet] multi-timer

2010-09-20 Thread Paula Wilder

Hi everybody!
Does anyone know where I can purchase a multi-timer (product used to be 
manufactured by Beckman Coulter electronics)?  The company no longer 
manufactures them.  Thank you so much!
Paula Wilder
St. Joseph Medical Center
410-337-1741  
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RE: [Histonet] multi-timer

2010-09-20 Thread Mighnon Lashus
Try Labsco.

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Hi everybody!
Does anyone know where I can purchase a multi-timer (product used to be 
manufactured by Beckman Coulter electronics)?  The company no longer 
manufactures them.  Thank you so much!
Paula Wilder
St. Joseph Medical Center
410-337-1741  
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[Histonet] Steedman polyester wax

2010-09-20 Thread Onstead-Cardinale, Luisa
I would like to know if anyone has a good protocol that includes tissue
fixation (preferred fixative,  fixation temperature etc) and  tissue
processing (time etc.) for   low melting Steedman polyester wax . The
tissue to be embedded is chick embryo brain.

 I am going to do all the tissue processing and embedding  manually. Any
suggestion?

Looking forward to receive your advice

Luisa

 

 

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Research Associate

UF Biomedical   Research Laboratory, Room 121

655 West 11th Street 

Jacksonville, Fl 32206

phone (904) 633-0984

 

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RE: [Histonet] multi-timer

2010-09-20 Thread Fabrice GANKAM

Hey guys
Was wondering if any of you ever used a phopho NFKB p65 antibodu and which
one you prefer with what antigen retrieval method if applies.
I'm working on FFPE rat tissue

Thanks.

Fabrice


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