Re: [Histonet] Shiny side of a paraffin section

2012-03-02 Thread Jim Reilly
Hello Everyone

I have worked in histology for 41 years and the only reason we ever put
sections shiny side up is when we want to look at back to back sections:
We would take the first section and put it shiny side up in the bath and
the next section immediately after would be placed shiny side down.
This will give you adjacent sections that will be cut through the same
face i.e. if a cell is cut in half the other half will be mirrored on
the other section. This can be a very handy tool for comparing IHC
staining.

Cheers

James H Reilly
Senior Histology Technician

Institute Of Infection, Immunity, Inflammation College Of Medical,
Veterinary and Life Sciences University Of Glasgow Room B4/27 Sir Graeme
Davies Building 120 University Place Glasgow
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Re: [Histonet] Congo red

2012-03-02 Thread Lee Peggy Wenk
Is it ONE particular case that is giving you problems, or ALL cases of 
amyloid? Maybe just the control?


If the amyloid is a large deposit, that has been in the patient for a long 
time, the beta pleats can get warped, and the Congo red will be very pale to 
no staining. In those cases, we:
- Use the Auramine-Rhodamine fluorescence scope (hit slide with green light) 
on the Congo red stained tissue. Congo red amyloid will fluoresce orange 
against a black background.
- Do a crystal violet stain. Amyloid will be pink violet against a blue 
purple background.
- Do a Thioflavin T stain. Use the FITC fluorescence microscope (hit slide 
with blue light). TFT will fluoresce yellow against a black background.


All the amyloid stains have a weakness when it comes to staining amyloid. 
There isn't one that works all the time. If the Congo red is working fine, 
then that's the only stain we do. But if the Congo red isn't staining 
correctly (our control is great, but the patient's tissue is weak to no 
staining), then we do one or more of the above options.


If you need the crystal violet or TFT procedure, let me know.

Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073
The opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.

-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Llewellyn

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:22 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Congo red

Bennhold's method is not the easiest to give good results. Try
Highmans's method
(http://stainsfile.info/StainsFile/stain/amyloid/congohighman.htm). It
is much easier to control.

Remember that congo red is not an intensely coloured dye and the results
are often pale. If your pathologists want a punchier stain try sirius
red F3B (NOT 4B), as this is a deeper red than congo red. It can be used
in a Highman type procedure as a direct substitute for congo red. It
also gives green birefringence, again somewhat darker than congo red.

Bryan Llewellyn



Cheri Miller wrote:
Anyone have any solution to a week Congo Red? I use Rowley  Congo red, 1% 
aqueous order # S0-496. our procedure is Benholds and I cut at 5-6 
microns. And I leave in the solution for up to 4 hours and the paths are 
still saying it is weak. Any ideas? I have even stopped the Alkaline 
alcohol differentiation step and its still too weak.


Cheryl A. Miller HT(ASCP)cm
Histology/Cytology Prep Supervisor
Physicians Laboratory Services
Omaha, NE. 402 731 4145 ext. 554



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Re: [Histonet] blocking endogenous activities

2012-03-02 Thread Rene J Buesa





Peroxidase, the enzyme you want to block with hydrogen peroxide, is a protein 
and, as such, should be cross-linked by formalin if the tissue is properly 
sixed.
In consequence, you should eliminate the crosslinkage to fully expose the 
enzyme before blocking it.
Therefore, you should do HIER first and block the peroxidase afterwards.
On the other hand, many labs do 
René J.

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From: Tuyen Nguyen tuyenma...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] blocking endogenous activities
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 6:48 PM


In my lab, in IHC protocols for most antibodies, hydrogen peroxide is applied 
before antigen heat retrieval. However, I wonder there is any different result 
in IHC stain if hydrogen peroxide for blocking endogenous activities is applied 
after antigen heat retrieval by using steamer or pressure cooker?
Thank you,
Mai Nguyen Truong
Research Associate II
Los Angeles, California
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[Histonet] Repair techs for very old Shandon Tissue Processor, (Roosevelt was in office)

2012-03-02 Thread Joseph Madary
I have an old Shandon tissue processor that is so old, they just called in 
tissue processor, I think  Kennedy was in office, and the serial number is -10. 
THe machine has been donated and passed down and I am having a hard time 
getting to work. I t worked once, but now it just keeps giving me every kind of 
error possible. In speaking with Shandon they have helped me to a coup-le of 
different resets, but all it does is cycle and try and find other modules. THis 
os one of those procssors that might have been part of a sequence of several 
processors. It keeps looking for other modules. ANyway, I cannot get it to do 
anything. DOes anyone know of a tech out there who can work on these Shandon 
Pathcenteres? Many thanks.
 
 
Nick Madary, HT/HTL(ASCP)QIHC
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[Histonet] microtomy

2012-03-02 Thread Webb, Dorothy L
We have run into an interesting scenario and wondering what the experts 
think!  We cut bone marrow bx's and lymph nodes for lymphoma @ 3 microns on one 
particular microtome.  Within the past month, the hematopathologist has felt 
the sections are thicker than the usual 3 microns.  I had our service 
technician  measure the microns and the equipment was cutting as set.  I had 
the blocks cut on a different microtome and we have seen variations there also. 
 My question is, does the amount of time on ice make a minor difference in the 
section thickness?  I know a lot of responses may be the difference in the tech 
cutting inasmuch as how fast they turn the rotations, etc., but,we have ruled 
out that variable by having more than one tech cut at the microtome in 
question. I am stymied as to how to remedy this fluctuation!  This is why we 
love histology, so many variables to create a problem and why I love histonet, 
so many techs to help one through a dilemma!!  Thank you!!

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[Histonet] AKT and pAKT

2012-03-02 Thread Courtney Pierce

Has anyone out there done AKT and pAKT antibodies for IHC. I have been working 
on them for about a month now and they are still not working right. I hope 
there is someone out there that can help me???

Courtney Pierce
IHC Specialist
Quintiles
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Innovation
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[Histonet] RE: microtomy

2012-03-02 Thread Long, Florence
Make sure all levers and parts of the knife holder are tightened securely, but 
do not overtighten -especially on the blade holding plate
F. Long

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Webb, Dorothy L 
[dorothy.l.w...@healthpartners.com]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:06 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] microtomy

We have run into an interesting scenario and wondering what the experts 
think!  We cut bone marrow bx's and lymph nodes for lymphoma @ 3 microns on one 
particular microtome.  Within the past month, the hematopathologist has felt 
the sections are thicker than the usual 3 microns.  I had our service 
technician  measure the microns and the equipment was cutting as set.  I had 
the blocks cut on a different microtome and we have seen variations there also. 
 My question is, does the amount of time on ice make a minor difference in the 
section thickness?  I know a lot of responses may be the difference in the tech 
cutting inasmuch as how fast they turn the rotations, etc., but,we have ruled 
out that variable by having more than one tech cut at the microtome in 
question. I am stymied as to how to remedy this fluctuation!  This is why we 
love histology, so many variables to create a problem and why I love histonet, 
so many techs to help one through a dilemma!!  Thank you!!

Dorothy Webb, HT (ASCP)



  
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[Histonet] blocking endogenous peroxidase

2012-03-02 Thread Anatoli Gleiberman
Some peroxidase-like enzymes in macrophages (probably catalase) and DAB-binding 
activities in erythrocytes (hemoglobin) are not blocked by formalin. The best 
way to block this activity was incubation with methanol-peroxide (99 parts of 
methanol-1 part of 30% peroxide) during de-waxing. 3% peroxide is also 
effective, but in some cases it causes extensive bubbling that can damage 
fragile sections. So, I am using methanol-peroxide for paraffin sections and 
stable peroxide buffer (buffer provided in DAB developer kits, such as Pierce 
metal-enhanced DAB kit) for cryo- sections.

Anatoli Gleiberman, PhD
Director of Histopathology
Cleveland Biolabs, Inc
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RE: [Histonet] AKT and pAKT

2012-03-02 Thread Mehlika Faire

I've used cell signaling 4060S XP for pAKT, and it works really well.  

 From: courtney.pie...@quintiles.com
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:31:11 -0500
 Subject: [Histonet] AKT and pAKT
 
 
 Has anyone out there done AKT and pAKT antibodies for IHC. I have been 
 working on them for about a month now and they are still not working right. I 
 hope there is someone out there that can help me???
 
 Courtney Pierce
 IHC Specialist
 Quintiles
 Translational RD - Oncology
 Innovation
 Navigating the new health
 
 610 Oakmont Lane
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 Office: + 630-203-6234
 courtney.pie...@quintiles.com
 
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Re: [Histonet] microtomy

2012-03-02 Thread Rene J Buesa
Cold temperature will shrink the block and determine thinner sections, not 
thicker sections. The problems has to be on the mechanics or perhaps the block 
is hotter than you think it is.
René J.

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From: Webb, Dorothy L dorothy.l.w...@healthpartners.com
Subject: [Histonet] microtomy
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 1:06 PM


We have run into an interesting scenario and wondering what the experts 
think!  We cut bone marrow bx's and lymph nodes for lymphoma @ 3 microns on one 
particular microtome.  Within the past month, the hematopathologist has felt 
the sections are thicker than the usual 3 microns.  I had our service 
technician  measure the microns and the equipment was cutting as set.  I had 
the blocks cut on a different microtome and we have seen variations there 
also.  My question is, does the amount of time on ice make a minor difference 
in the section thickness?  I know a lot of responses may be the difference in 
the tech cutting inasmuch as how fast they turn the rotations, etc., but,we 
have ruled out that variable by having more than one tech cut at the microtome 
in question. I am stymied as to how to remedy this fluctuation!  This is why we 
love histology, so many variables to create a problem and why I love histonet, 
so many techs to help one through a
 dilemma!!  Thank you!!

Dorothy Webb, HT (ASCP)



  
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[Histonet] lab. setting up

2012-03-02 Thread mohamed abd el razik
dear all on histonet
I'm going to setup a new histology lab. in Egypt. I need to contact with you to 
advice me about the best and comfotable facilities
microtomes- processors-automatic stainers and so on .
 
Mohamed
Ass. Lec. of histology
Faculty of Vet. Med.
Cairo University
Egypt
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Re: [Histonet] lab. setting up

2012-03-02 Thread Rene J Buesa
It would be better if you contact a local sales manager knowledgeable of the 
local characteristics and ask him/her this question. From here you will 
probably receive advises about instruments that probably are not available in 
Egypt.
René J.

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From: mohamed abd el razik k8...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] lab. setting up
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 3:58 PM


dear all on histonet
I'm going to setup a new histology lab. in Egypt. I need to contact with you to 
advice me about the best and comfotable facilities
microtomes- processors-automatic stainers and so on .
 
Mohamed
Ass. Lec. of histology
Faculty of Vet. Med.
Cairo University
Egypt
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Re: [Histonet] microtomy

2012-03-02 Thread Kim Donadio
Love your question. Hate to hear that you are having a issue. My two cents 
follow: 
Yes. The amount of time for a faced block will effect the section thickness. 
The cells become bloated if they   Sit to long.  feel free to have a Friday 
laugh on this one. 
Anyway. If you havnt changed the stain in any way or the tech isn't rushing and 
hard facing causing extrenuated cell artifact and you don't have bloated cells? 
Could it be possible his eyesight got better or maybe he is mad and wants to 
pick a fuss? 
I sometimes wish we could post pictures if our issues. I'm wishing you the best.
Kim D
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Webb, Dorothy L 
dorothy.l.w...@healthpartners.com wrote:

 We have run into an interesting scenario and wondering what the experts 
 think!  We cut bone marrow bx's and lymph nodes for lymphoma @ 3 microns on 
 one particular microtome.  Within the past month, the hematopathologist has 
 felt the sections are thicker than the usual 3 microns.  I had our service 
 technician  measure the microns and the equipment was cutting as set.  I had 
 the blocks cut on a different microtome and we have seen variations there 
 also.  My question is, does the amount of time on ice make a minor difference 
 in the section thickness?  I know a lot of responses may be the difference in 
 the tech cutting inasmuch as how fast they turn the rotations, etc., but,we 
 have ruled out that variable by having more than one tech cut at the 
 microtome in question. I am stymied as to how to remedy this fluctuation!  
 This is why we love histology, so many variables to create a problem and why 
 I love histonet, so many techs to help one through a dilemma!!  Thank you!!
 
 Dorothy Webb, HT (ASCP)
 
 
 
  
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[Histonet] Re: PAMS Jones Basement Membrane

2012-03-02 Thread gayle callis
A stain I have never had a problem with.  However I did have the good
fortune to listen to Culling many years ago on the use of 1% periodic acid
for PAS staining and he insisted periodic acid, no matter what the
concentration, should be made fresh every time you do these stains e.g.  PAS
and PAMS.Some people use 0.5% but we used 1% for 15 minutes, and then
did microwave staining for the methenamine silver.A 56C - 60C water bath
also works plus monitoring the color of the sections -  the color of dark
tea.  

 

This is NOT a stable oxidizer once made up, and never should be reused under
any circumstances.   On the chance you have not used this solution in over 1
1/2 years, you may not be getting proper oxidation of the basement membranes
since the periodic acid and the methanamine silver may be bad.   Also, the
Methenamine silver should be no more than 6 months old.  We also kept our
silver nitrate solution fresh when we made up the methenamine silver
solution, and do store our silver nitrate salts in the refrigerator since
this is hygroscopic.  Check on storage of this salt in MSDS  I have
never been one to use kits for either of these stains, particularly with
periodic acid as a ready to use solution.   This goes into solution very
rapidly and be sure to oxidize for 10 minutes before going to the
methenamine silver.  None of these solutions is difficult to make up in
house.

 

If you want, I can send my method and also a protocol pdf from HistoLogic by
Stanley Shapiro, where he used freshly made 0.5% periodic acid via private
email.   The nuclei will pick up some silver, but one should be able to
discern nuclei from basement membranes on 1 to 2 µm sections.  

 

Good luck

 

Gayle Callis

HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)

Bozeman MT  

 

  

 

 

 

You wrote: Just wanted to give a quick update on this.  I had a suggestion
for using thiosemicarbazide for 10 minutes after the periodic acid, and of
all the things we tried, this was the only thing that worked.  It eliminated
the nuclear staining and the capillaries are now picking up the silver (as
they should be!).  Unfortunately, I accidently deleted the email that
suggested this so I don't know who to thank, but it was a great suggestion!

Liz

 

From: Elizabeth Cameron

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:17 PM

To: histonet @t lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Subject: Jones/PAMS

 

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a Jones/PAMS stain that is
not working properly. This is something we don't do often.  The last time we
did it was a year and a half ago, and it seemed fine at the time.

We have tried 3 or 4 protocols, including an ammoniacal silver, and it is
still not working properly.  In some protocols, our red cells are staining
but the capillaries in the glomeruli do not seem to be picking up the
silver.  In other protocols, there are nuclei of some cells that should not
be staining that are, but again, the capillaries are not.  We are working on
mouse tissue that is fixed in NBF.  The strange thing is the stain seems to
be working well on Bouins and Telly's fixed tissue.  I even tried mordanting
in Bouins!  We have tried multiple kidneys with the same results.  We are on
new bottles of silver and periodic acid, although our methenamine has been
around a while.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Liz

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Posting photographs RE: [Histonet] microtomy

2012-03-02 Thread gayle callis
There is a way to post pictures on histonet but just  not in the email
messaging.   The instructions for doing this are found on the Histonet
website. 

Speed does affect the thickness of sections.   It pays to turn the flywheel
at a steady, slow pace and not NASCAR racing speeds I have sometime
observed. Harder paraffin helps for thin sections but one should be able
to section at 2 um without difficulty on a properly adjusted microtome, a
sharp disposable blade and using any modern day paraffin. 

Gayle Callis
HTL/HT/MT (ASCP)
Bozeman MT  

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Donadio
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 2:54 PM
To: Webb, Dorothy L
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] microtomy

Love your question. Hate to hear that you are having a issue. My two cents
follow: 
Yes. The amount of time for a faced block will effect the section thickness.
The cells become bloated if they   Sit to long.  feel free to have a Friday
laugh on this one. 
Anyway. If you havnt changed the stain in any way or the tech isn't rushing
and hard facing causing extrenuated cell artifact and you don't have bloated
cells? Could it be possible his eyesight got better or maybe he is mad and
wants to pick a fuss? 
I sometimes wish we could post pictures if our issues. I'm wishing you the
best.
Kim D
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Webb, Dorothy L
dorothy.l.w...@healthpartners.com wrote:

 We have run into an interesting scenario and wondering what the experts
think!  We cut bone marrow bx's and lymph nodes for lymphoma @ 3 microns on
one particular microtome.  Within the past month, the hematopathologist has
felt the sections are thicker than the usual 3 microns.  I had our service
technician  measure the microns and the equipment was cutting as set.  I had
the blocks cut on a different microtome and we have seen variations there
also.  My question is, does the amount of time on ice make a minor
difference in the section thickness?  I know a lot of responses may be the
difference in the tech cutting inasmuch as how fast they turn the rotations,
etc., but,we have ruled out that variable by having more than one tech cut
at the microtome in question. I am stymied as to how to remedy this
fluctuation!  This is why we love histology, so many variables to create a
problem and why I love histonet, so many techs to help one through a
dilemma!!  Thank you!!
 
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[Histonet] Multiple stain for epoxy sections

2012-03-02 Thread Duraine, Lita
Hello Histonet Users,
I have decided that I should ask the experts.  I regularly thick section muscle 
sections in Embed 812 for bouton identification.  I normally use Toluidine 
blue.  I am having trouble differentiating between boutons and a type of 
vacuole that occurs within the same tissue and sometimes same area using TB.  
Under the LM they can sometimes appear the same.  That is until you get it in 
the TEM and then you have a vacuole and not a bouton.   In the Light Microscope 
the slide under an oil lens doesn't really indicate sub synaptic reticulum 
other than a darker area.   Does anyone know of a multiple stain that can be 
used for epoxy resin sections (no methanol or Ethanol) that would stain SSR or 
vesicles a different color from other surrounding areas.  I have checked online 
and indeed there are many stains but from what I read the protocols are for 
paraffin sections.  Surely there is something.

Thank you,

Lita Duraine
EM Technologist
Bellen Lab
HHMI- Molecular Genetics
Duncan Neurological Research Institute
1250 Moursund St.
Houston, TX 77030
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[Histonet] out of office

2012-03-02 Thread Marilyn . A . Weiss

I will be out of the office starting  03/02/2012 and will not return until
03/05/2012.

  In my absence please ask for Mary .  If this is urgent or you need to
speak to me directly  you can contact me on my cell phone number
858-472-4266. If it concerns a Mohs to be scheduled you can e-mail me or
call on my cell.
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[Histonet] RE: Congo red

2012-03-02 Thread Jerry Ricks

From the CAP site: 

The Benhold Congo red technique does not yield reproducible results and should 
be avoided

and 

the alkaline Congo red method of Puchtler, et al.,7 remains the gold standard 
for the demonstration of amyloid in tissue sections.




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Jerry



 From: cmil...@physlab.com
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 CC: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:28:18 -0600
 Subject: [Histonet] Congo red
 
 Anyone have any solution to a week Congo Red? I use Rowley  Congo red, 1% 
 aqueous order # S0-496. our procedure is Benholds and I cut at 5-6 microns. 
 And I leave in the solution for up to 4 hours and the paths are still saying 
 it is weak. Any ideas? I have even stopped the Alkaline alcohol 
 differentiation step and its still too weak.
 
 Cheryl A. Miller HT(ASCP)cm
 Histology/Cytology Prep Supervisor
 Physicians Laboratory Services
 Omaha, NE. 402 731 4145 ext. 554
 
 
 
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