[Histonet] Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Yaskovich, Ruth A (NIH/NIDCR) [E]
I know this question has been asked before but what's the best and safest 
Xylene Substitute?
Ruth Yaskovich
N.I.H. N.I.D.C.R.
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Re: [Histonet] RE: Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth)
I'm using Clear Rite 3 and I like it. Is there a better xylene substitute for 
animal tissues?

Andrea Grantham, HT (ASCP)
Senior Research Specialist
University of Arizona
Cellular and Molecular Medicine
Histology Service Laboratory
P.O.Box 245044
Tucson, AZ 85724

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Elizabeth Chlipala
We use Propar, mostly for mouse and rat eye samples, it works well in our hands

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 881-0763 cell
(303) 682-9060 fax
l...@premierlab.com

Ship to address:

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Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Xylene Substitutes

I'm using Clear Rite 3 and I like it. Is there a better xylene substitute for 
animal tissues?

Andrea Grantham, HT (ASCP)
Senior Research Specialist
University of Arizona
Cellular and Molecular Medicine
Histology Service Laboratory
P.O.Box 245044
Tucson, AZ 85724

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Re: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Rene J Buesa
Ruth:
I all reality none is good. Both alkanes or D-Limonene are either as dangerous 
or more than xylene, and all perform below the xylene standard.
Any one requires modifications of all procedures, they seldom dewax adequately 
and all constitute a processing compromise. Many cannot de recycled.
Please go to http://www.histosearch.com/rene.html and read about xylene 
substitution.
 
The optimal solution to eliminate xylene consists on:
1- dehydrate with 2-propanol (or pure isopropyl alcohol or IPA)
2- do not use any ante-medium and go from IPA directly to paraffin wax or 
ideally to mineral oil:IPA at 1:1
3- infiltrate as usual
4- dewax sections with 2%aq. sol. of dishwater soap at 90ºC for 1 min twice
5- stain as usual
6- dehydrate stained sections in a convection oven at 60ºC for 5 minutes
7- coverslip as usual.
As you can see xylene is nowhere to be found in this sequence that produce 
optimal quality slides.
Try it!
René J.



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Subject: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes


I know this question has been asked before but what's the best and safest 
Xylene Substitute?
Ruth Yaskovich
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RE: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Dingersoll

   Donna S. Ing= ersoll, B.S., HTL, CT(ASCP)

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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes
   
From= : Rene J Buesa [2]rjbu...@yahoo.com
   
Date: Wed, August 21, 2013 12:06 pm
   
To:Yaskovich,Ruth=A(NIH/NIDCR)[E][3]rya   
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Ruth:
   
I all reality none is good. B= oth alkanes or D-Limonene are either
   as  dangerous  or more than xylene, and = all perform below the xylene
   standard.
   
Any  one  requires  modifications=  of  all procedures, they seldom
   dewax  adequately and all constitute a proce= ssing compromise. Many
   cannot de recycled.
   
Please go to [5]http://www.histosearch.com/rene.html= /a and read
   about xylene substitution.
   

   
The optimal solu= tion to eliminate xylene consists on:
   
1- dehydrate with 2-propanol (o= r pure isopropyl alcohol or IPA)
   
2-  do  not  use  any  ante-medium  and  =  go from IPA directly to
   paraffin wax or ideally to mineral oil:IPA at = 1:1
   
3- infiltrate as usual
   
4-  dewax  sections with 2%aq. sol. of= dishwater soap at 90ºC
   for 1 min twice
   
5- stain as usual
   
=  6-  dehydrate stained sections in a convection oven at 60ºC
   for 5 minut= es
   
7- coverslip as usual.
   
As  you  can  see  xylene is nowhere to b= e found in this sequence
   that produce optimal quality slides.
   
Try it!   
René J.
   

   

   

   
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Bea DeBrosse-Serra
At another place I've worked for, we used Propar for animal tissues and it 
worked well.

Bea

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra HT(ASCP)QIHC
Isis Pharmaceuticals
Antisense Drug Discovery
2855 Gazelle Ct.
Carlsbad, CA 92010
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
Chlipala
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:59 AM
To: Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth)
Cc: HISTONET
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Xylene Substitutes

We use Propar, mostly for mouse and rat eye samples, it works well in our hands

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC Premier Laboratory, LLC PO Box 18592 
Boulder, CO 80308
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 881-0763 cell
(303) 682-9060 fax
l...@premierlab.com

Ship to address:

Premier Laboratory, LLC
1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504

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[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Grantham, Andrea L - 
(algranth) [algra...@email.arizona.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:47 AM
Cc: HISTONET
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Xylene Substitutes

I'm using Clear Rite 3 and I like it. Is there a better xylene substitute for 
animal tissues?

Andrea Grantham, HT (ASCP)
Senior Research Specialist
University of Arizona
Cellular and Molecular Medicine
Histology Service Laboratory
P.O.Box 245044
Tucson, AZ 85724

algra...@email.arizona.edumailto:algra...@email.arizona.edu
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[Histonet] Agar for rabbit arteries

2013-08-21 Thread Karie Durynski

Hello,
I need to order agar to embed rabbit arteries prior to processing. I was told 
to purchase Difco #0140-01. There are so many different types. What agar do you 
use and from what vendor do you purchase it?
Thank you in advance for your help,
Karie
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New Bolton Center
University of Pennsylvania
School of Veterinary Medicine
Comparative Orthopaedic Research Laboratory
382 W Street Road
Kennett Square, PA. 19348
Phone:610-925-6278
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RE: AW: [Histonet] post-fixation for Mallory Trichrome

2013-08-21 Thread Rui TAHARA
Thank you!

I have added extra step of 5 min of 1% phosphomolybdic before aniline 
blue-orangeG, which increased the blue contrast in late stage embryos but not 
early stage ones.  

I did not realize that Mallory trichrome react differently between embryonic 
and adult samples. I just assumed the formalin fixation is causing the staining 
problem for early embryos. 
Does formalin fixation cause the different colors or weak staining? 
If the Mallory Trichrome works differently with developing stages, is mallory 
trichrome preferably used for adult samples and late stage samples? 
I found the following ref about modified Mallory Trichrome for embryonic 
samples. This method is basically use three dyes separately that can help 
differentiate staining colors like optimized colors achieved in adult samples. 
I have tried the protocol yet the cartilage does not show sharp enough and most 
of other tissues are stained purple-ish. 

Would you suggest some articles that i can refer to for Mallory trichrome in 
embryos? 
Thank you, 

Rui 

 From: gu.l...@gmx.at
 To: ru...@hotmail.com
 CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: AW: [Histonet] post-fixation for Mallory Trichrome
 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:26:38 +0200
 
 Hi,
 I think staining would be improved, when you use Bouin as postfixative ( 1h
 hour, 60°C).
 Try to invite a further step between Fuchsin and Anilinblue. When you
 incubate the slides in 1% phosphomolybdic acid for 5-10 min, you can see
 decolorization of cardilage. This improves later on anilin-binding.
 You may control the differentiation-step under microscope. Anilinblue can be
 reduced to 5 min afterwards.
 
 You may also consider, that there's a real difference in
 cardilage-architecture of the early and late samples, that takes influence
 on staining-abilities.
 
 Gudrun Lang
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Im Auftrag von Rui TAHARA
 Gesendet: Freitag, 16. August 2013 23:33
 An: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Betreff: [Histonet] post-fixation for Mallory Trichrome
 
 
 Hello, 
  
 There seems to be a lot of suggestions for Mallory Trichrome staining
 involved in Acid fusin, Aniline blue, and orange G.
 
 My sample of avian embryos were
 fixed with Formalin based fixative (4% paraformaldehyde in
 phosphate-buffered saline and 1% glutaraldehyde) overnight, in case of late
 embryos bones were decalcified, and followed standard  alcohol series,
 paraffin embedded, and 10 micron sectioned. 
 The slides were dehydrated,
 stained with 0.5 % Acid fushin for 10min, then without wash, 0.5% Aniline
 blue and 2 % orange G in 1% phosphomolybdic acid solution for 20  min, then
 undergone ethanol series, cleared and mounted.
 
 Now I know that formalin fixed
 sample do not present optimized trichrome colors based on your websites and
 references. Yet the stained sections of late stage embryo do still show near
 optimized colors whereas those of  early stage embryo show almost no blue or
 very dark blue, almost gray color for cartilages and most of morphologies as
 purple-redish colors.
 
 Since I tested staining on late
 embryos first I thought staining would work on early embryos. Does anyone
 provide me explanation why the staining mostly shows red-ish color and not
 optimized color for cartilage in early  embryos? Is that because of the
 formalin-fixed embryos although late stage embryos fixed with formalin still
 show the blue for cartilage?
 
  
 Another question is related to
 fixative. I prefer not to use bousin fixative due to picric acid and it
 seems that Citrate buffer or Gram’s iodine solution can be substituted to
 bousin post-fixative. Have anyone tried  these solution for Mallory
 Trichrome? Do those methods show near optimized color for Mallory trichrome?
 
  
 Any suggestion is appreciated. 
 Thank you, 
  
 Rui TAHARA
 PhD candidate
 McGill University, Biology Department
 
 
  
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Re: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes

2013-08-21 Thread Rene J Buesa
Donna:
Please go to the web site I indicated in my previous answer and you find 
detailed answer.
After you stain the sections (regardless of the procedure) you dry them in an 
oven at 60ºC for 5 mins. and they are completely dry (ANATHEMA!!! to most) 
you just place them in your automated coverslipper with the same mounting 
medium you are using now. You need to change NOTHING.
Try it!
René J.



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To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com; Yaskovich, Ruth A (NIH/NIDCR) [E] 
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes



Rene,

How do you recommend cover slipping with out xylene?  We use a tape cover slip 
instrument that requires xylene.  If you are using glass coverslips what kind 
of adhesive is used?  I am very interested in eliminating xylene as much as 
possible, but we are a high volume lab and many of the automated instruments 
(stainers, coverslippers) require xylene.  Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Donna S. Ingersoll, B.S., HTL, CT(ASCP)
Laboratory Manager
A P Laboratories, LLC
2090 Executive Hall Rd Suite 165
Charleston, SC 29407
843-300-3001 X 202
843-300-3003 (fax)
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes
From: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, August 21, 2013 12:06 pm
To: Yaskovich, Ruth A (NIH/NIDCR) [E] ryaskov...@dir.nidcr.nih.gov,
'Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Ruth:
I all reality none is good. Both alkanes or D-Limonene are either as dangerous 
or more than xylene, and all perform below the xylene standard.
Any one requires modifications of all procedures, they seldom dewax adequately 
and all constitute a processing compromise. Many cannot de recycled.
Please go to http://www.histosearch.com/rene.html and read about xylene 
substitution.
 
The optimal solution to eliminate xylene consists on:
1- dehydrate with 2-propanol (or pure isopropyl alcohol or IPA)
2- do not use any ante-medium and go from IPA directly to paraffin wax or 
ideally to mineral oil:IPA at 1:1
3- infiltrate as usual
4- dewax sections with 2%aq. sol. of dishwater soap at 90ºC for 1 min twice
5- stain as usual
6- dehydrate stained sections in a convection oven at 60ºC for 5 minutes
7- coverslip as usual.
As you can see xylene is nowhere to be found in this sequence that produce 
optimal quality slides.
Try it!
René J.



From: Yaskovich, Ruth A (NIH/NIDCR) [E] ryaskov...@dir.nidcr.nih.gov
To: 'Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Xylene Substitutes


I know this question has been asked before but what's the best and safest 
Xylene Substitute?
Ruth Yaskovich
N.I.H. N.I.D.C.R.
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[Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread Martin, Gary
We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to remain
with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a separate stack
on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in the on deck
tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be
appreciated. 

Thanks 

Gary

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Re: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread Jay Lundgren
I don't know about CAP guidelines, but I always thought separating the
paperwork was to avoid blood/body fluid and/or formaldehyde contamination
to the poor transcriptionists and clerical people who have to handle the
req after grossing, with no gloves or ventilation!  Some places I've worked
have put the reqs in clear plastic binder pages to avoid this, in others
the transcriptionists have worn gloves.

   Sincerely,

Jay A.
Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)








On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Martin, Gary
gmar...@marshallmedical.orgwrote:

 We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to remain
 with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a separate stack
 on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in the on deck
 tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
 CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be
 appreciated.

 Thanks

 Gary

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RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread WILLIAM DESALVO
I am not aware of any CAP regulation that requires the requisition to remain w/ 
the specimen. The pathologist/PA at gross dissection needs to be able to 
positively confirm/verify the specimen container information (two forms of 
patient ID and specimen source) w/ the order entry information (taken from the 
requisition). There are many labs that are paperless during the technical 
process and I see more and more use of electronic requisitions and orders.

William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee

 
 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:55:12 -0700
 From: gmar...@marshallmedical.org
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to remain
 with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a separate stack
 on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in the on deck
 tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
 CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be
 appreciated. 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Gary
 
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RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread Douglas Porter
There are times when the requisition and the specimen are labeled
differently.  Many offices pre-label their specimen containers, take the
specimen from a different source and forget to change the label on the
container.  They make the change on the requisition and then you have a
discrepancy.  The grosser is a perfect double check to make sure everything
matches.  It will keep you from having to amend reports that go out before
the discrepancy is discovered.

Douglas A. Porter, HT (ASCP) 
Grossing Technician 
IT Coordinator
Cancer Registrar 

CAP-Lab, PLC 
2508 South Cedar Street 
Lansing, MI 48910-3138 

517-372-5520 (phone) 
517-372-5540 (fax) 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:02 PM
To: Martin, Gary; histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

I am not aware of any CAP regulation that requires the requisition to remain
w/ the specimen. The pathologist/PA at gross dissection needs to be able to
positively confirm/verify the specimen container information (two forms of
patient ID and specimen source) w/ the order entry information (taken from
the requisition). There are many labs that are paperless during the
technical process and I see more and more use of electronic requisitions and
orders.

William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee

 
 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:55:12 -0700
 From: gmar...@marshallmedical.org
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to 
 remain with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a 
 separate stack on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in
the on deck
 tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
 CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 Gary
 
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RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread joelle weaver
That seems to happen pretty often. When I accessioned a lot it was at least a 
daily occurrence that information would not match between the jar and 
requisition, or information was missing or illegible. I have noticed that it is 
much easier to reach the actual person who labeled the specimen for corrections 
if you attempt to track them down as soon as possible after the specimen is 
dropped off.  I have a policy for checking the manifest and then cross checking 
the jar and requisition during accessioning that requires they travel together 
in order to be cross-checked. If problems are noted, discrepancies, missing 
information and the like,  there is a form to document the discrepancies and 
relabeling needed. I prefer to also note in the LIS, just in case there are 
still questions later. I just feel that even if it is not specifically 
stipulated in regulations or checklists that when the requisition and 
specimen/specimen jar are always together you can catch specimen integrity 
problems sooner so they can be corrected.  The grosser is also a great 
checkpoint, definitely.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
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 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:19:10 -0400
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 There are times when the requisition and the specimen are labeled
 differently.  Many offices pre-label their specimen containers, take the
 specimen from a different source and forget to change the label on the
 container.  They make the change on the requisition and then you have a
 discrepancy.  The grosser is a perfect double check to make sure everything
 matches.  It will keep you from having to amend reports that go out before
 the discrepancy is discovered.
 
 Douglas A. Porter, HT (ASCP) 
 Grossing Technician 
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of WILLIAM
 DESALVO
 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:02 PM
 To: Martin, Gary; histonet
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 I am not aware of any CAP regulation that requires the requisition to remain
 w/ the specimen. The pathologist/PA at gross dissection needs to be able to
 positively confirm/verify the specimen container information (two forms of
 patient ID and specimen source) w/ the order entry information (taken from
 the requisition). There are many labs that are paperless during the
 technical process and I see more and more use of electronic requisitions and
 orders.
 
 William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
 Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee
 
  
  Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:55:12 -0700
  From: gmar...@marshallmedical.org
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] Requisitions
  
  We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to 
  remain with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a 
  separate stack on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in
 the on deck
  tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
  CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be 
  appreciated.
  
  Thanks
  
  Gary
  
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