[Histonet] scrubs/business casual

[O'Donnell, Bill via Histonet]

Just a little poll.

How many histology labs allow scrubs?

Of those that are allowed scrubs, do you purchase your own, or are they 
provided?

Bill O'Donnell
Good Sameritan Hospital
Histology

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Re: [Histonet] SOP share

[O'Donnell, Bill via Histonet]

Jamal, 

My response is to your response of " No single response"

There are some things you need to be aware of:

I work for an institution that will fire people for sharing an SOP with someone 
outside our system. They even block/encrypt e-mails with attachments from going 
out. 

I suspect a lot of folks here in US are in a similar situation.  It's a 
different world in healthcare than it was even 8-10 years ago..  

SOPs are considered the property of the employer - so I would be stealing from 
my company to give you an SOP.

Another thing to understand is that  most people work very hard on their SOPs 
and would rather not just hand over their work, especially to someone they 
don't know personally. 


That's all I have to say on the subject
 - have a nice week



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No single response 


Regards
Jamal RowaihiAnatomic Pathology SupervisorAl Borg Medical Laboratories Sent 
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 Original message From: Jamal Rwaihi via Histonet 
 Date: 3/11/17  4:38 PM  (GMT+03:00) To: 
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Hi colleagues

I hope all are fine

Please share me the SOP for:

1.    Leica ASP6025 Automatic Tissue Processor.

2.    Tissue-Tek Prisma & Film Automated Slide Stainer & Film Coverslipper.

3.    Leica IP C Inkjet Printer for Tissue Cassettes.

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Jamal M. Al Rowaihi

Al Borg Medical Laboratories I Anatomic Pathology Supervisor I Headquarters, 
Jeddah, KSA I Phone: +966 12 670 0099 I Mobile +966 503629832

 
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RE: [Histonet] sta on

[O'Donnell, Bill]

We use it and are happy with it. Measure out your dose and you will not have 
background. Never lose sections. We do not do IHC  :(

It seems a reasonable request and a bottle should last a while at a capful a 
day.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:04 PM
To: anita; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] sta on

I use it.  Back when I was doing my IHC reference lab, I had certain tissues 
that would not stay on with charged slides.  These were bloody, crunchy and 
brittle tissues mostly.  When they washed, I used Sta-On and they worked great. 
 No washing.  After my institution closed the IHC part of my lab in 2002, I 
decided to use Sta-On and not charged slides which was more cost effective.  I 
still use it today.  Very seldom do I lose any sections.  

Shirley Powell
MUSM


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of anita
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:57 PM
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Subject: [Histonet] sta on

how many people use sta on in their waterbath?   we have not for years, but 
have a new person who wants me to get some, she is having trouble with the 
ribbons floating away.  

 

thanks for your input,

anita dudley

providence hospital

mobile, al
  
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RE: [Histonet] Embedding Question

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Wow. Speechless. (well nearly speechless) Wow.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Sicurello
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:29 AM
To: HistoNet
Subject: [Histonet] Embedding Question

It has been proposed to move the embedding centers to a room about 210 ft away 
from the tissue processors.

The trip from processor to embedding center would take over 2 minutes and 
require the histotechs to carry the baskets full of cassettes down a much used 
hallway.

Opinions?

Do you feel this is a good idea-yes or no and why?

Thanks in advance,

Paula
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[Histonet] RE: Is there a Law for refusal of pathology services.

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I believe the question was asking for laws. 

A law is different than what insurance companies may or may not prefer. They 
have 'rules' but have to follow 'laws'. Laws that might concern this are also 
enacted at both the national and state levels. Any state might differ over 
another.  All I can offer beyond that is, if really concerned, and it sounds 
like you are, take up the question with your Risk Management folks, or whatever 
department deals with that kind of stuff. 

This case is one you are aware of. It might shock you to learn how many times 
patients do not have their tissues examined, especially in clinics. The best 
record might the op-notes, as far as the insurance companies are concerned. 

To assume the patient won't be covered, that she has anterior motive, or that 
the lab is the sole documentation of a procedure is to make legal assumptions 
and, frankly, that's not a good idea. 

All of that said - it is, in my mind, prudent to get a diagnosis, but prudence 
is different than necessity and patient rights are pretty broad and are rarely 
narrowly interpreted. 

Thanks for reading this far down -

Bill (Not A Lawyer) O'Donnell

 



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Tibbs
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:52 AM
To: Sue; Paula Pierce
Cc: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Is there a Law for refusal of pathology services.

Also, legally speaking, if it isn't documented, it didn't happen in the eyes of 
the law.

Barbara S. Tibbs
Histology Supervisor
Accurate Diagnostic Labs
South Plainfield, NJ
barbara.ti...@accuratediagnosticlabs.com
732-839-3374
Cell: 610-809-6508



From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Sue 
suetp...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 9:43 PM
To: Paula Pierce
Cc: Histonet
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I agree, if you do not document that a specimen was removed most likely 
insurance will deny the clain.

SPaturzo
TJU
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RE: [Histonet] On the lighter side...

[O'Donnell, Bill]

30 years - 

Interesting demographics here, mainly (though not entirely) 'old timers' 
posting on this one. 

Logical conclusions:
1. It is a matter of pride or bragging rights that we geriatrics are posting or,
2. unnecessary shyness on the part of the younger members or,
3. the worst - very few younger followers of histonet

Would love to see a whole bunch of newer techs posting - gives a great hope for 
the future of the profession

-Bill

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I'm a histotech on Friday... I AM the walking dead :)


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
wsim...@athensgastro.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:38 PM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Podawiltz, Thomas; Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID); 
'Morken, Timothy'; 'Teri Johnson'; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

Quincy made derogatory remarks that anyone could do what Sam was doing.  Then a 
few of us complained and the next few episodes promoted us.  I think I'll talk 
to my walking ATL connections and see if we can get histotechs back in the 
limelight.  Maybe on walking dead?

Wanda


  ---Original Message---
  From: Shirley A. Powell powell...@mercer.edu
  To: Podawiltz, Thomas tpodawi...@lrgh.org, Sanders, Jeanine 
 (CDC/OID/NCEZID) j...@cdc.gov, 'Morken, Timothy' 
 timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org, 'Teri Johnson' tjohn...@gnf.org, 
 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia
  Sent: Jun 27 '14 14:22
  
  Most of you guys are too young to remember Quincy, who told his lab 
 assistant that if he did not come up with an answer he would be demoted to 
 the histology lab to count specimens.  Never watched that show again.  Good 
 thing the writers were on the other side of the country at that time.  But 
 hey I have mellowed since then.  All will agree that medical shows take 
 license with truth and reality in view of the almighty $$$.
  
  Shirley
  
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 2d4fe65d3d8814c4fde009dcfb9674] On Behalf Of Podawiltz, Thomas
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:54 PM
  To: Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID); 'Morken, Timothy'; 'Teri Johnson'; 
 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia
  
  The last medical show I watched was ER. Sent NBC an irritated e-mail after 
 the episode where Dr. Wylie gave a resident a tube of blood and told her to 
 take to the lab and wait there for the results since the lab loses everything.
  
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 (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:30 PM
  To: 'Morken, Timothy'; 'Teri Johnson'; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia
  
  Remember the episode of House where the physicians assisting House dropped 
 some red liquid on a slide and had an immuno?
  
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  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:25 PM
  To: 'Teri Johnson'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia
  
  Are all news stories are as faked as the ones showing something in a lab? 
 One had two doctors(?) in lab coats peering at a microscope slide they are 
 holding to the light above their head and the reporter is saying they are 
 examining samples from a cancer patient.
  
  Wow, good eyesight!
  
  Tim Morken
  Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC 
 San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA
  
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 2d4fe65d3d8814c4fde009dcfb9674] On Behalf Of Teri Johnson
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:15 AM
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] Re: Friday histology trivia
  
  Carefully placed scientific equipment, as well as spokespeople dressed in 
 lab coats, are great marketing tools for anything touted to cure us or make 
 us healthier.
  
  Next time you 

RE: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

[O'Donnell, Bill]

HA! I can beat that... I still have to cut ice from the river in the winter and 
store it in an ice house so we can do frozen! - Bill


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Ann 
Jones
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:39 PM
To: Mike Andrews; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

Ha! I can beat that~ we have a cryostat that is at least 50+ years old, old AO 
microtome cryostat. Still works, barely. . .looks just like the old fashion 
ice-cream holders. (P.S. Prob not true to life, but I liked Quincy-did I just 
date myself?)

Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
Histology Manager
Metropath
7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
Lakewood, CO 80226
303.634.2511
mjo...@metropath.com




On 6/27/14, 12:35 PM, Mike Andrews udsd...@gmail.com wrote:

One of my current is the (Salonpas?) ad I which there is a very obvious 
AO Series 10 just behind the presenter. Good old brass'n'glass, but 
hardly current -- even if I do own a few.

Mike Andrews, W5EGO
WWME Oklahoma area executive team

 On Jun 27, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Morken, Timothy
timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org wrote:
 
 Are all news stories are as faked as the ones showing something in a 
lab? One had two doctors(?) in lab coats peering at a microscope slide 
they are holding to the light above their head and the reporter is 
saying they are examining samples from a cancer patient.
 
 Wow, good eyesight!
 
 Tim Morken
 Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC 
 San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA
 
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 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:15 AM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Re: Friday histology trivia
 
 Carefully placed scientific equipment, as well as spokespeople 
dressed in lab coats, are great marketing tools for anything touted to 
cure us or make us healthier.
 
 Next time you watch an actual medical or research-based news story, 
check out how they ALWAYS show someone pipetting. Always.
 It's become a game for me to spot it.
 
 Teri Johnson
 Manager, Histology
 Genomics Institute for
 Novartis Research
 Foundation
 San Diego, CA
 858-332-4752
 
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[Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Second favorite - don't forget Roger! - Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Podawiltz, 
Thomas
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:11 PM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID); 'Morken, Timothy'; 
'Teri Johnson'; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

The navy lab I was stationed at in VA, we had a picture of Quincy on our dart 
board. Yeah, he was our favorite target. 

Tom 

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'Teri Johnson'; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

Most of you guys are too young to remember Quincy, who told his lab assistant 
that if he did not come up with an answer he would be demoted to the histology 
lab to count specimens.  Never watched that show again.  Good thing the writers 
were on the other side of the country at that time.  But hey I have mellowed 
since then.  All will agree that medical shows take license with truth and 
reality in view of the almighty $$$.  

Shirley   

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'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

The last medical show I watched was ER. Sent NBC an irritated e-mail after the 
episode where Dr. Wylie gave a resident a tube of blood and told her to take to 
the lab and wait there for the results since the lab loses everything. 

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Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

Remember the episode of House where the physicians assisting House dropped some 
red liquid on a slide and had an immuno?

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Subject: [Histonet] RE: Re: Friday histology trivia

Are all news stories are as faked as the ones showing something in a lab? One 
had two doctors(?) in lab coats peering at a microscope slide they are holding 
to the light above their head and the reporter is saying they are examining 
samples from a cancer patient. 

Wow, good eyesight!

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San 
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA

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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:15 AM
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Subject: [Histonet] Re: Friday histology trivia

Carefully placed scientific equipment, as well as spokespeople dressed in lab 
coats, are great marketing tools for anything touted to cure us or make us 
healthier.

Next time you watch an actual medical or research-based news story, check out 
how they ALWAYS show someone pipetting. Always.
It's become a game for me to spot it.

Teri 

RE: [Histonet] Processor malfunction - tissues not submerged ~ 9 hours

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Not since 1978. (Sorry - couldn't resist - Happy Friday!)

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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:15 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Processor malfunction - tissues not submerged ~ 9 hours

Hello everyone,

When it is working correctly, our tissue processor moves a basket of tissues 
through 10 reagent containers. Last night it malfunctioned and suspended the 
tissues above the 80% ethanol container. The tissues were high and dry for ~ 9 
hours (!) until I placed them into 70% ethanol this morning. I will process 
them next week. Has this happened to anyone else and what tissue artifacts can 
I expect?

Thanks very much,

Carla





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Western Fisheries Research Center, USGS
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[Histonet] RE: IHC antibody optimizing validating

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Hi Cassie,

I have tried going 'requisition free a number of times in at least three 
institutions. The problems I've always encountered have been with the OR 
nursing staff, who frankly tell us that they are too busy to have to do one 
more thing - even if they were doing the 'thing' on paper anyway. 

(Now - for a little soapbox time) I have found that while there are a lot of 
hard working, diligent OR nurses, far too many see patient care as done once 
the tissue is out.  This means that many times, insufficient information or 
even - God help us - incorrect information ends up on the requisitions.  But it 
didn't get any better electronically, in fact it was worse. Having required 
fields before submission helps - but only if they bother to put something 
useful in them.  This may not be everyone's experience, in fact I hope it is 
not. My problem is not with paperless (which is never really paperless) but 
with trusting the people who do the ordering. 

Any way, thanks for letting me have a mini-rant. It felt good!

Shalom - Bill

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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:51 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] IHC antibody optimizing  validating

Will you help me? I understand we are to use the known positives controls that 
the manufactures' recommends in the package insert when optimizing the stains, 
but I need to know what is your general procedure for optimizing (how many 
different staining protocols do you test) and validating a new antibody (how 
many different or known positive and negative tissues do you test [predictive 
markers I understand are 20])?

Cassandra Davis
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[Histonet] Decal and molecular testing

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Can anyone recommend a decal solution that does no damage to specimens for 
molecular testing - or one that has minimal damage? Thanks - Bill


William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
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[Histonet] Bio banking ?

[O'Donnell, Bill]

OK, our institution has embraced the idea of bio banking, but we do not have 
one on site. We have a person who consents the patient, delivers the specimen 
to the lab, puts the tissue in cassettes that she provides. We in histology 
will embed, cut one slide per block, stain and hold the slides and blocks for 
this person to pick up.

There has been some miscommunication. I thought we were getting paid by the bio 
bank firm to do this, the bio bank person also assumed we were being paid - but 
we have not been.

The bio bank firm agrees that a fee should be paid us - but we have no idea 
what to charge. We want it to be a reasonable transaction between us.

Is anyone else charging for this service? If so, what do you charge per block 
or per case?

Any help would be appreciated!


William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC
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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

[O'Donnell, Bill]

We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!

I didn't think anyone knew we existed.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. 

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



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To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html



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[Histonet] Thermo Slide Mate

[O'Donnell, Bill]

A note to vendors - 

I am in need of a roll of ink for the Thermo Slide Mate. I am told that our 
distributer is out and it will be 4-6 weeks wait. This is an unacceptable wait. 
Who else is making/marketing this product? I will gladly make a trial purchase.

Contact me directly via email b...@deaconbill.com . Please do not post to 
Histonet - thanks - Bill

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
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RE: [Histonet] Thermo equipment:

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I ewcho Pam's message. Buggy at first, but stayed buggy for a long time w the 
cassette printer. They have replaced the heads on cassette writer a number of 
times, but we now have one that works great and we are happy with them. I have 
no experience w their processor. - Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:14 AM
To: 'Jb'; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Thermo equipment:

We have had the Thermo system with the slide writers and cassette writers for a 
little over two and a half years.  We did have issues when we got the system as 
it was new to the market and had some bugs. Thermo fixed the problems and 
Thermo stood by us until we got everything we needed.  They did it very quickly 
to make us a very happy group of Histologists and the Gross Room techs.  

We now have two other labs who bought the system a year after we did and all 
the bugs were gone.  They have had no problems and love the systems as much as 
we do.  

We do decal nightly on bone marrows and have never had a cassette label fade or 
come off in the solution.  It was an absolute necessity for us to know the 
information did not fade and the cassette writer was the only I was comfortable 
would hold up for this as it literally burns the number into the plastic.  

Pam Marcum
UAMS

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To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Thermo equipment:

Does anyone have experience/input on Thermo Scientific equipment?  Ex the slide 
labeling system (slideMate), processor, cassette printing system (printMate). 
We are considering purchasing this equipment and would like to hear as much 
input as possible. Good/bad, other suggestions, etc. 

Thank you-

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[Histonet] RE: Endometrial biopsies

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I have found that if using tissue paper wraps for bloody tissues, that if I wet 
them first with water, the paper does not need to be scraped so often or so 
violently. - Bill

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To: Diana McCaig; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Endometrial biopsies

Diana,

This has always been an issue for us.  We wrap currettings in lens paper, and 
my best guess is that the embedders scrape the paper to get the tissue off and 
scrape up small amounts of the lens paper, which then shreds.  I tell them to 
be careful and try not to scrape too hard, but it doesn't always help.

Laurie Colbert

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Subject: [Histonet] Endometrial biopsies

In the past when we receive these samples there has been no issues cutting 
them.  Over the past few months there has been a tendency for these blocks to 
shred into fine strips when cut.  Almost like there was sand in the blocks.  
Mollifex, decal, warm or cold, doesn't matter they still shred.  Getting levels 
is such a challenge.  I have inquired at the collection site to determine if 
there is a change in the process of collecting that could cause this.  I have 
ensured the samples are not left on gauze or something to allow them to dry 
out. Even blocks with lots of blood and/or mucous will shred as well as blocks 
with only a scanty amount present.

Is anyone else experiencing this.


Diana
Chatham Kent Health Alliance
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[Histonet] Tissue marking dyes

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I am wanting to 'cut' the dense tissue dye(s) by TBS (probably same as Cancer 
Diagnostics or any other). Orange is very thick, so is green. I'm being a bit 
lazy here, but I was wondering if anyone else is going this? Do you use water, 
alcohol or H2O2?

Any direction would be helpful.

Thanks - Bill
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC
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[Histonet] RE: Tissue marking dyes

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Thank you all so much for your help and suggestions. I want to apologize for 
singling out a single company. It turns out, upon further examination, that we 
have inks from at least three different companies. TBS is actually the least 
problematic of the whole bunch. I won't mention who makes the others.

Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:51 AM
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Subject: [Histonet] Tissue marking dyes

I am wanting to 'cut' the dense tissue dye(s) by TBS (probably same as Cancer 
Diagnostics or any other). Orange is very thick, so is green. I'm being a bit 
lazy here, but I was wondering if anyone else is going this? Do you use water, 
alcohol or H2O2?

Any direction would be helpful.

Thanks - Bill
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC Senior Histologist Good Samaritan 
Hospital
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RE: [Histonet] Re: AFB Controls

[O'Donnell, Bill]

The only caution I would add to animal tissues is that they should be securely 
stored. In 1994, a group of animal rights activists opened the slide box and 
set all of my control slides free. 

Oh, yes, it's Friday.

Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Richmond
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:37 PM
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Subject: [Histonet] Re: AFB Controls

With due deference to Peggy Wenk, I'm a little hesitant about AFB and other 
bacterial and fungal controls prepared by artificially inoculating normal lung 
tissue, particularly with AFB other than Mycobacterium tuberculosis.

I don't understand why people don't use animal material here. Surely some 
enterprising vendor could find a researcher who's infecting guinea pigs with 
Myco. tuberculosis.

The best AFB control material I've ever seen came from rhesus monkeys imported 
from India (a practice now prohibited) for research purposes. The veterinarians 
tuberculin tested the monkeys, put down the ones that tested positive, and 
autopsied them.

Perfectly preserved tissue, loaded with red bugs, and HIPAA doesn't give a hoot 
about monkeys.

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[Histonet] CPT question

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I know that there is a technical component for histologic prep for a bone 
marrow aspirate and biopsy. Is there a way of charging for the technician who 
goes to the surgery suite or patient room to help a clinician collect the bone 
marrow?


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Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:41 AM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; Bob Richmond; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: AFB Controls

Well that sure helped the animals..

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Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:17 AM
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: AFB Controls

The only caution I would add to animal tissues is that they should be securely 
stored. In 1994, a group of animal rights activists opened the slide box and 
set all of my control slides free.

Oh, yes, it's Friday.

Bill

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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:37 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Re: AFB Controls

With due deference to Peggy Wenk, I'm a little hesitant about AFB and other 
bacterial and fungal controls prepared by artificially inoculating normal lung 
tissue, particularly with AFB other than Mycobacterium tuberculosis.

I don't understand why people don't use animal material here. Surely some 
enterprising vendor could find a researcher who's infecting guinea pigs with 
Myco. tuberculosis.

The best AFB control material I've ever seen came from rhesus monkeys imported 
from India (a practice now prohibited) for research purposes. The veterinarians 
tuberculin tested the monkeys, put down the ones that tested positive, and 
autopsied them.

Perfectly preserved tissue, loaded with red bugs, and HIPAA doesn't give a hoot 
about monkeys.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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RE: [Histonet] Height detail

[O'Donnell, Bill]

CAP has no height limit. Your local fire marshal or safety department may well 
have a ceiling distance minimum. Most places I have been have the 18 distance 
from ceiling so that fire sprinklers are not blocked - but please check with 
your safety dept. as yours may well be different.


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Donadio
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:46 PM
To: Amber McKenzie
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Height detail 

You can't stack anything higher than 18 inches from the ceiling. This is the 
only stack law I'm personally aware of. 

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

 What's the height limit you can stack blocks/slides according to CAP?
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] RE: bunsen burner at the embedding center

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 and it was always snowing and I had to walk 19 miles to work 
uphillboth ways. . We had to stock our cryostat with fresh cut blocks of 
ice from the river 10 miles away. (uphill, both ways) We had to start our 
Bunsen burner with steel and flint and we used our fingers instead of forceps.  
G. Gorden Liddy was a wimp compared to us 

Kids today don't know how good they got it! (They also don't know who G. Gordon 
Liddy was but can instinctively Google it) 

- Just some Friday fun for what has turned into a fun thread. - Oh wait, I 
forgot, this forum is for professional questions - so- Can you please 
unsubscribe me?

Have a great weekend! - Bill

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: bunsen burner at the embedding center

With no ventilation

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Richard E.
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: bunsen burner at the embedding center

And sit around smoking as  we  mounted the  sections from  xylene, in an open 
lab

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Burchette
Sent: 20 September 2013 14:41
To: Davis, Cassie
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: bunsen burner at the embedding center

Back in the 70's we would boil metal base molds in water using a bunsen burner 
and a 3 legged ring stand.
On Sep 20, 2013 9:37 AM, Davis, Cassie cda...@che-east.org wrote:

 Hi Valerie,
 When I started in Histo in 90' everybody used the alcohol 
 burners...Open flame concern became a concerned and the separate 
 forcep warmers were purchase because the old embedding centers did not 
 have the nice warmers like the new ones do. The last place I worked at 
 had an old embedding center when I started but we weren't allowed open flames.
 Fortunately, we found an unused Bacteria Incinerator that Micro.
 wasn't using and used that until that embedding center died. That worked 
 great!

 Cassandra Davis
 cda...@che-east.org
 302-575-8095


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 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:04 AM
 Subject: [Histonet] Bunsen Burner


 Hi all..

 We are having a discussion/ disagreement in our department as far as 
 whether using a bunsen burner at the embedding center is against fire codes.

 What is the consensus??


 Thanks,

 Valerie A. Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU(FL) Histology Section Chief 
 Parrish Medical Center
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RE: [Histonet] The Good Old Days...

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I can!I can!  And still strop my straight razor every day as well as all 
the grossing knives and my kitchen knives as often as needed. (Different 
strops) - Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Blazek, Linda
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How many can strop a knife?

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Victor A. Tobias
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:01 PM
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Seems like no one has touched upon the fine art of knife sharpening. Sometimes 
I felt like an executioner sharpening my axe to the point of splitting a hair. 
Heaven forbid if you hit a staple. That part of the blade was no useless for 
days to weeks until the daily sharpening ground it out. Life is pretty good 
when you just pull out another blade from the plastic box.

Victor 

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Hear hear!  I agree and was just saying I love hearing the stories (although I 
am not young).  Thanks all for sharing these memories and lessons!

Sent from my iPhone

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 I enjoy hearing sincere reminiscing...Even though us kids don't know how 
 good we have it, some of us enjoy having an old tech beside us on the 
 bench. I find weeding through the sarcasm can be profitable and in doing so 
 have learned so much. What the old techs did on a daily basis, we only did in 
 the practice lab and when the automated instruments and pre-made solutions 
 that we have come to rely on fail, experience is so very valuable. Only by 
 their blood, sweat and tears have we benefitted however, we have so far to 
 go, let's do it together.
 
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[Histonet] RE: Bunsen Burner

[O'Donnell, Bill]

No open flames - which makes it hard to light our cigars. (Just kidding but 
I remember when...)

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Subject: [Histonet] Bunsen Burner

Hi all..

We are having a discussion/ disagreement in our department as far as whether 
using a bunsen burner at the embedding center is against fire codes.

What is the consensus??


Thanks,

Valerie A. Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU(FL)
Histology Section Chief
Parrish Medical Center
951 N. Washington Ave.
Titusville, Florida 32976
Phone:(321) 268-6333 ext. 7506
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RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT

[O'Donnell, Bill]

This is precisely why I stopped giving NSH my money. When they start to earn 
it, I will reinstate my membership. I suppose they could argue that they can't 
do it without my money - they had 25 years of my membership - and all I got was 
a discount to meetings my institution can't afford to send me to and, I will 
admit, a decent magazine..  Now if I could just withhold taxes until the 
Government starts doing what we elected it to do...  WAy off topic- Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pam Marcum
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:46 AM
To: Joyce K. Weems
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We also need NSH to step up and do what they said they would years ago instead 
of planning more and more meetings per year and increasing what we pay them for 
not doing anything to help us.  They seem to support anything ASCP/CAP/CLIA etc 
tells them and we are left footing the bill in more ways than monetarily.  NSH 
in Providence is in a week and I cannot go this time so why can't those going 
start asking where the proposal brought up years ago hasn't moved forward.  I 
would have been happy to bring it up from the floor in the general membership 
meeting.  


Pam Marcum
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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:39:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT 

They are only as good as we are, so we need them to fight for us!! 

Joyce Weems
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT 

Histology does not get the respect or the recognition because histologists do 
not report results.  All of the complex testing we do is overlooked because the 
pathologists report the results.   CLIA standards are based on result 
reporting.   The CAP has looked the other way for years because pathologists 
would hire unregistered techs.  If pathologists would demand only registered 
techs half our battle would be won. 

Hazel Horn
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Children's Hospital
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT 

And the reason so many have been fighting for this for years. If a lab were 
looking for a Medical Technologist there would be no question. 


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MacDonald
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To: Marcum, Pamela A
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT 

As long as we do not need certification, licensure and minium education 
requirements we will not be recognized as Laboratory Professionals. 



From:   Marcum, Pamela A pamar...@uams.edu
To:     'joelle weaver' joellewea...@hotmail.com, 'Emily Sours' 
talulahg...@gmail.com, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 

RE: [Histonet] This is not Facebook

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Wow. :( 

OK, here's my question. CAP is in house here as well. How do they DO that? 
Bilocation, mitosis, time travel?

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of ihcs-wojcieszyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:36 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] This is not Facebook

E-mails that tell all of what is happening, i.e. CAP is in house is a waste 
of time. Are we going to communicate when you wash your hands or have a cup of 
coffee.
If Histonet is to be a source of information, ASK a question


jw


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RE: [Histonet] Re: grossing tools

[O'Donnell, Bill]

The book exists - I've seen it. I think it was written by some guy who
gives management seminars. But it mysteriously vanished - probably taken
by aliens to de-evolutionize their home planet. That's my theory. 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bob
Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:02 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Re: grossing tools

Bruce Gapinsk HT (ASCP), Chief Histologist, Marin Medical Laboratories,
PathGroup SF asks:

Histonians, I'm sure we are not the only histology lab that deals with

thick grossed specimens. Has anyone tried the new gross tools by 
Sakura? Or anything else that can cut ONE nickel thick. Tired of 
reprocessing.

This grumpy old (74) pathologist would be happy to try them out, though
I can cut freehand and almost never have a block reprocessed, but the
skill eludes a lot of the young folks. Do you have a Web link for these
tools?

The problem would be getting a lab manager to spring for them. The
Laboratory Manager's Handy-Dandy Guide to Making Life Hard for the
Pathologist (I'm sure  there is such a book, though I haven't actually
seen one) specifies that grossing is a ritual requiring only a basic set
of tools.

One lab expected me to gross with an athame and chalice. I tried to
explain to them that OSHA and the CAP would not permit me to gross
skyclad.

(You guys know I NEVER exaggerate.)

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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RE: [Histonet] interview

[O'Donnell, Bill]

OK, then, sound advice. (Hopefully)

Assuming that a trained tech is out of the question:

Hire someone with a minimum of an AS, but prefferably an MS. Pay scale
should reflect the difference between a HS grad and a degreed person.
This has been my policy for 17 years. MS or experience - otherwise, I do
not even schedule an interview. Also, I believe it is grossly unfair to
the new employee to limit their potential earnings at the start.
Complete training, get 50 cents. Get your HT/HTL, get another dollar or
two. (These are hourly increases, not the price of a stuffed bear that
says congratulations)

Under that stipulation, seek within the system first. You have a better
chance of gauging their work ethic and how well they get along with
others and follow directions.

If no luck within the system, go the local route - same requirements.
How about contacting any nearby military bases, perhaps a spouse of a
soldier is a tech and moving to town. It is not unusual for the bases
personnel folks to know of such needs - but I admit, it is a long shot.
Advertise nationaly - expensive! But it may unearth someone who will be
planning on relocating to your area. This has happened once in my career
- so it is not out of the realm of possibility.

When interviewing an unknown your rescources for investigation are
really pretty limited. Interview time is critical. Refrain from tours
of the lab until after the initial interview. If they are not of hiring
potential - don't waste your valuable time. Never promise what you
cannot deliver. 

Remember that many people in today's economy are not working or are
underemployed. Benefit packages are sometimes very valuable, especially
to someone who hasn't had any for awhile. This is not a soapbox - though
it would be a good place to get on one. This is the reality of our
times. Excellent workers are available. 

Try to guage their desire, not for employment, but for learning new
things. Ask questions that will guide them to give real answers as to
how they might handle this or that people situation. Don't overlook
the banal questions about hobbies or volunteer work. The answers can be
very insightful. A person with no outside interests is a red flag as is
someone with too many scattered interests. Don't look for common ground
with these inqueries, but if you find it, ask yourself if your shared
hobby is in anyway a plus for OJT work? 

As to paring down the work - this will be difficult but that is not the
same as impossible. Work with medical staff to see what can be
outsourced, even if for a short time. IHC? Some IHC? It is hard to find
reference labs that do a lot of special special stains. Look at the data
and see what special stains you offer that are hardly ever, or rarely
requested. Talk with medical staff about eliminating these with the
option of reintroducing them should the need increase. It's surprizing
what a pathologist can do without!

How much time are you spending in a day answering the phone? Pulling
slides and filing? Cleaning processors and changing stainers? Chasing
down missing info on your requisitions? Retreiving specimens? Could this
be done by a part-time/full time clerk?  Saving ten minutes here and 15
minutes there really does make a difference.

Perhaps, if the clerk shows potential, they could become your OJT tech.
I know that is how at least some of the fine techs who frequent this
forum got into the field. Advantage - you see first hand their
personality and productivity.

None of these things are really new, but we do sometimes overlook them.
It helps to have some objective fresh looks at the situation. Perhaps,
bringing in an experienced per diem person can help you see areas that
can be improved upon. After X number of years in the same place - we
can get a bit myoptic. Maybe an histology consultant would be helpful.
Again - fresh eyes and an open mind!

Know that everything I just said is doable, but not easy. And every one
or any one can fail or are not a good fit for your situation. Revenue
may suffer, even if only temporary, but it simply may not be avoidable. 

And now - for a series of cliches that may actually be applicable:

A burnt out tech is of no value to anyone, least of all, themselves. 
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Two heads are better than one and might be twice as entertaining.
Think outside the box (arrrgh - I can't believe I actually wrote that)

Good luck in your endeavors and God bless! Thanks for indulging me.

-Bill


 



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tim
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:47 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] interview


 
Gale and Pam, people on Histonet love to sit on their soap box and spew
out ridiculous statements without any thought behind them at times.  
 
 
To say you need to scale the volume down to a point where it is
manageable (tell that to your 

RE: [Histonet] Xylene Free Processing?

[O'Donnell, Bill]

The Xpress microwave tx processors are xylene free - perhaps they have
one.

I am pretty certain there still needs to be something that is misable
with alcohol and paraffin, such as mineral oil. I believe this can be
added to one or two of the paraffin steps, but I am just venturing a
guess. Most processors would still require a xylene (or substitute)
cleaning cycle to remove paraffin. 

I will be following this thread with interest - Bill

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

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Cultivate it in PRAYER!

 






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Laura
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 1:38 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Xylene Free Processing?

I would appreciate hearing all of your expert opinions on processing
tissue without the use of xylene or any type of xylene substitute.  Our
processor was down recently, and a friendly local lab processed our
tissue this way for us.  Of course, the Pathologists loved it.  The
process was formalin, followed by graduated percentages of only
isopropyl alcohol, and then paraffin.

What are your feelings concerning immunos?  Overall cost?  Any other
thoughts?

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RE: [Histonet] Re: Basis for Quality Work in a Histotech

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I agree that the verbal approach is swiftest. I remember one lab that I
worked in where we did daily QA sheets for overall quality. Specifics
might be noted, but since I didn't always get the sheets back the same
day - they weren't of much real help. Anyway, one day the pathologists
tells me he thinks I need to look at the hematoxylin as it was staining
funny. Sure enough, it was. 

I inquired when he first noticed it and he said oh, it's been several
days. I looked at the sheets and everything was marked satisfactory. I
got rid of the sheets, documented my own daily checks, and simply asked
the paths how they thought things looked each day. They reviewed and
signed off on the sheets at the end of the month, but I got first hand
feedback which actually meant something and problems got solved in a
more timely manner. I'm sure this experience is not unique, but since
that event I have always insisted that the pathologist come directly to
the lab when they have a problem with any aspect of the work. It's
amazing what a little communication will do.



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lynette
Pavelich
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:06 PM
To: Bob Richmond; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Basis for Quality Work in a Histotech

Dr. Richmond,
It's always refreshing to hear what the other shoe has to say! I'm
sure seeing those required quality control sheets coming in everyday is
tiring, and then especially frustrating when small to none results are
seen in a timely manner. I can empathize with you as change/improvement
can sometimes take a long time!! 

I also realize...after being in the field 40+ years (ouch!), that
verbal communication seems to work faster than all those required sheets
of paper you have to fill out. Like the pathologist who comes through
the door saying; HEY...what happened with this slide?? (LOL) will
get a much faster response/correction than those papers I receive back
everyday to collate! It's just more personal, and shows the techs more
of the pathologist's side of the hardships of diagnosing after receiving
less than lovely slides.

Equally refreshing, is a pathologist who remembers to thank the tech who
does a great job! And I thank you for that! A genuine complement is
really appreciated!

Lynette

Lynette Pavelich, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Hurley Medical Center
One Hurley Plaza
Flint, MI 48503

ph: 810.262.9948
mobile: 810.444.7966


From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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[rsrichm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:42 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Basis for Quality Work in a Histotech

From: Kim Donadio one_angel_sec...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Basis for Quality Work in a Histotech
To: O'Donnell, Bill billodonn...@catholichealth.net,Maria
Mejia
mbmph...@gmail.com,   Morken, Timothy
timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
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Kim Donadio (where?) comments:
I'd like to add my two cents to the measuring Quality topic. I'll 
make it short. - You should have a Quality Management program. It's 
vital to track errors, types of errors, frequency and who etc. This is

NOT a tool for blame as we are all adults or we should be. It is 
however a tool for tracking trends, making improvements and yes if you

did see someone making a mistake often, you would have the data to 
educate particular personnel. - There are QM tools out there from 
various organizations. And yes, there are standards of deviations such

as the TAT for frozens. There are standards for other things as well. 
Set Standards of excellence with your Pathologist. Make goals. Track 
them. Follow improvement.

I'm going to add a sour and cynical rejoinder. As most of you know, I'm
an elderly pathologist who's spent the last 30 years as a locum tenens,
working maybe 60 pathology services in my career. Sometimes in a
pathology practice I'll be asked to fill out daily quality whatever
(the patter changes with the years) reports about the slides. I always
dread having to do this, because I know that the more of this paperwork
I have to do, the worse the slides will be. The worst was one that
required several square inches of scribbling a day.
They couldn't mount a coverslip correctly.

Any meaningful system would require daily feedback from pathologist (or
other end user) to histotechnologist. I've never encountered a pathology
service that accomplished this.

Dang - now I'm remembering that this morning duodenal biopsy sections
were the best I'd ever seen here, and I forgot to tell the histotech
before

RE: [Histonet] Basis for Quality Work in a Histotech

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Maria - Well said. 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Maria Mejia
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:36 AM
To: Morken, Timothy
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Basis for Quality Work in a Histotech

Travis,

I agree with everyone's valuable thoughts regarding your question.  As a 
supervisor, it's imperative to communicate with people in such a way that they 
change themselves.
With some people the act of  getting the task done,  has such an urgent need 
that can lead them to become careless  aggressive, leaping before looking  
even speaking without thinking first.  In histology, we know it's more 
important to avoid making mistakes - to be certain every detail is accurate  
in place. And, it's important to find the balance between the 2 intentions of 
getting the task done  getting it done right!

It's also important to create  develop relationships with those you work with. 
 The desire to contribute to others  be appreciated for what you do, is one of 
the most powerful 
motivational forces known.   And yes, sometimes you get what you give!  Giving 
appreciation  getting along with others go hand-in-hand -  as a supervisor 
it's another balancing
act.  Also when people have the same priorities, a misunderstanding or conflict 
is highly UNLIKELY.

All the best
Maria Mejia
San Francisco, CA


On Dec 17, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Morken, Timothy wrote:

 Travis,
 
 Histology has a very complex workflow AND requires artisan level 
 workmanship to deliver a product. Those two together nearly guarantee 
 mistakes, mostly minor, but sometimes literally life-threatening to patients. 
 The goal is to instill a sense of Best Quality in the techs. A large part of 
 achieving that attitude is to ensure the pathologists and administrators are 
 behind the techs 100% and ALLOW the techs to do Best Quality - ie, accept 
 that Best Quality will sometimes mean slower turnaround time. Does that 
 aspect mean more people are needed? That's your call, but can be determined 
 by workload accounting.
 
 The attitude should be that the SYSTEM makes the mistake, not the individual. 
 It is not likely a person makes a mistake on purpose, but instead is it some 
 aspect of the system that allows them to make a mistake (though shortcuts 
 can be thought of as intentionally risking making mistakes on purpose, the 
 purpose being to save time or effort).
 
 Workflows can be engineered to ensure some mistakes don't happen. Protocols 
 must be followed to the letter by EVERYONE. No workarounds allowed (a 
 workaround is an indication that there is something wrong in the system - the 
 employee feels the need to take shortcuts. Why?  BTW, Bill Gates said the 
 most important word in his vocabulary is why. Why is something done the way 
 it is? Why does a mistake happen at a certain point? ). In failure analysis a 
 problem is approached by asking 5 levels of WHY? After asking WHY 5 times 
 back down the workflow chain you usually find the root cause of a problem. If 
 not, you keep asking why until the root cause is found.
 
 For instance, we worked out a slide labeling protocol at the microtome that, 
 if followed, will ensure the tech does not make labeling errors. All 
 participated in working this out and so have bought into the system. All new 
 employees are trained in that system. That will eventually be followed by 
 barcoding, but that is a year away at least. But our protocol has nearly 
 eliminated labeling errors (we still get a few sneaking in here and there but 
 as we catch them we try to figure out how to engineer them away).
 
 We also finally instituted the printing of cassettes directly from our LIS 
 rather than using a stand-alone printer or hand-writing. That has almost 
 totally eliminated cassette labeling errors - we used to have hundreds per 
 month, mainly by residents putting in cassettes that they did not enter in 
 our LIS, or making simple typo errors on a stand-alone cassette labeler, or 
 hand-written cassettes. 
 
 All these methods need to be investigated. 
 
 Rewards are also very helpful. We give out Bear hugs that are $5 gift 
 certificates to the campus store, cafeteria, various food vendors in the 
 institution, etc. it's a small reward, but people actually appreciate it. We 
 also have Star Awards of $50 gift cards for those times when someone does 
 something more beyond the usual. The receiver chooses the card they want from 
 about 2 dozen available (coffee shops, VISA, various stores, etc).
 
 
 Good luck with it!
 
 
 Tim Morken
 Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies 
 Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J 
 Buesa
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:38 AM
 To: 

RE: [Histonet] Pa Leeeze

[O'Donnell, Bill]

This post is Op-Ed in nature... So Be Cool.

Should probably just let this thread die a quiet death over
Thanksgiving, but I can't resist. Blame it on a short night and a very
early morning ... or blame it on me. Whatever.

My long and ranting post was also more of an Op-Ed. No person or persons
were named nor intended to be personal. Sorry if it hit a nerve - but
then that's what Op-Ed does. Is there a place for such on HistoNet?
Maybe, maybe not. If asked how to retrieve an antigen - there may or may
not be better ways of doing it but my opinions about it aren't worth
much. 

But this 88305 issue, if you are in clinical work, is one that we are
all dealing with without any particularly familiar ground to work with.
To some degree opinions, one way or the other, is what we are left with.
And, believe it or not, through all the griping, panic and befuddlement,
I was able to gain useful insight. So, I vote that this is a legitimate
forum for our concerns as well as our particular technical brilliance.

Personally, I'm not all that smart. I'm just determined and focused.
Information on the legislation is out there but it is far too laborious
and nuanced for most of us poor scientists to completely comprehend. It
wasn't written for us but for lawyers and insurance companies. I have to
rely on people smarter than me to figure all of this stuff out. I like
that HistoNet is full of smarter people.

(A personal note: I actually did become very wealthy in histology. I
just choose to drive a 2000 Mercury with a cracked windshield, broken
door handles and a peculiar smell of hickory smoke and spoiled milk. I
could air it out if the windows workedcall me eccentric - and a real
smarta$$!) 

Bottom line: I've been jobless, it suc*ks. I've been without a home for
a short duration, and it suc*ks even more. It will not happen to me
again - even in this economy. Bustin' my chops to make sure it doesn't!
My main tools are a cool head and a strong attitude and the occasional
rant. (I am my own best tool) A lot of the rest of it is out of my
sphere of control, but I am as forward thinking and as pro-active as I
am able. So far, I'm still working, living indoors and still have heat
and running water. I'm not going to let a cut in the money my company
makes determine what I do or be my motivator. In fact, when I get home
in the evening - I don't think about it one wit. 

I have a wife to love, a dog to pet, a dinner to eat and a bed to sleep
in 88305 be dam*ned! And that gives me reason for a great
Thanksgiving! I hope ya'll have a great one! - Shalom! Bill



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From: Bruce Gapinski [mailto:bgapin...@pathgroup.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:12 AM
To: 'Boyd, Debbie M'; O'Donnell, Bill; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Pa Leeeze

Dear Histonians,
I am sorry. I wish I felt as you do. We were looking at this
for some time, and it was inevitable. Histology has enjoyed a fairly
long period of great reimbursement. what we had been doing overall in
healthcare could not be sustained The only thing that may cost a few
jobs is if   over-utilization is curbed.
I don't get it. I don't run my lab that way. Or my Pathologists
are real fat-cats who've been pulling the wool over my eyes for almost
40 years. How is it you all can post to HistoNet if you're so flippin
lean? I don't have time to do this during work hours. I'M BUSY. Did you
get rich in Histology? I didn't.
Loosing a job is painful, and we in mid management loathe
letting our staff go. The notion that I'm in panic mode is baiting at
best. I asked for help from my colleagues and got a plate full of Rush
Limbaugh.
Untill HistoNet has CONSTRUCTIVE information, I will stay
unsubscribed.
Bruce Gapinski

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From: Boyd, Debbie M [mailto:dkb...@chs.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:12 AM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; Bruce Gapinski; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Pa Leeeze

Thank you Bill, well stated!

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:25 PM
To: Bruce Gapinski; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Pa Leeeze

Like it or not, politics played a part in the cut of 88305. So did POLs,
CAP and a host of other factors. Finger pointing in time of uncertainty
somehow makes us all feel better, but  it doesn't give us concrete ways
of addressing the problem. Histology has enjoyed a fairly long period of
great reimbursement, reasonable per-test costs, and a certain amount of
security in that what we do is unique.

That is all changing, but was likely to change at least some no matter
who was elected to do whatever. Remember the panic when DRG's first
arrived?

There is no doubt that labs are going to have to get leaner, but this
was already a trend. Find reasonable ways to cut

RE: [Histonet] Pa Leeeze

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Like it or not, politics played a part in the cut of 88305. So did POLs,
CAP and a host of other factors. Finger pointing in time of uncertainty
somehow makes us all feel better, but  it doesn't give us concrete ways
of addressing the problem. Histology has enjoyed a fairly long period of
great reimbursement, reasonable per-test costs, and a certain amount of
security in that what we do is unique.

That is all changing, but was likely to change at least some no matter
who was elected to do whatever. Remember the panic when DRG's first
arrived? 

There is no doubt that labs are going to have to get leaner, but this
was already a trend. Find reasonable ways to cut costs. I know. We've
been doing this for years But it needs to go further. 

Some people will lose their jobs. I may well be one of them and I don't
like it, but it is a reality. If I go down, it will not be for lack of
trying to maintain.

88305 cuts are big but there are a lot of clinical services getting cuts
as well. Hospitals need to do what they can to keep the doors open for
the benefit of the patient. Pay cuts, bonuses+/-, benefits, hiring
freezes, capital freezes are all looming on the horizon. If at all
possible, fight them, but do not exhaust yourselves. It's a new world -
and it will sometimes be ugly. Blame the Democrats or the Republicans,
Wall Street or Main Street, but figure out how to adapt. 

OK. So What can we do to ride out the storm? 

1. Find a marketing advantage. POLs and certain smaller private labs
cannot remain the bargain they once were. My lab is expectiing to get
back some of what we lost to them a few years back. We are the only game
in our town Why are we losing business to labs in other areas? It
should all be staying here.

2. Become politically active. Demand better from your elected officials
and from your professional organizations that are lobbyists(sp). If they
can't do the job, use your vote or your membership fees to fire them OR
run for office yourself. Become an activist in your professional
organization. 

3. Maintain high standards. Cut-backs and performance improvement need
not automatically equate to less quality. I hate it when people assume
that shaving a couple of minutes must necessitate poor cutting. How
close to borderline is your current quality if this is your attitude.
Yes, that was snarky, but think about it. 

4. Remember the mantra of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe: DON'T
PANIC. When you are caught up in a panic mentality, thinking and problem
solving suffer. We need our heads in the game if we are going to come
out on top.
(How's that for my best Zig Zigler impersonation)?

Above all - have a nice day and thank you for letting me vent a bit. 

Bill



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce
Gapinski
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:37 AM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Pa Leeeze

Wow,
How disappointing. Looking for constructive ways to keep
my lab open and I get political stuff. Did you all go crazy in the 80's
with Ronald Ray-gun and the DRG's? Too young?


Bruce Gapinsk HT (ASCP)
Chief Histologist
Marin Medical Laboratories
PathGroup SF




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[Histonet] Xpress Question

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 
We are going to go w the Xpress 120. I have worked with it before, but
stuff changes. What are Xpress users on histonet doing to clean the
baskets and handles after use? We formerly used a dishwasher, but that
is not a favorite of ouor plumbing folks fearing that we will clog
drains w wax. I guess they think we are going to be pouring gallons of
molten wax through the system. Any help would be great help!

-Bill

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RE: [Histonet] Devasting news on 88305TC component

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I am not in a POL, nor private lab. 88305 is our bread and butter. Being part 
of a large national organization, some of their labs will weather it out, 
however, I am in a town of 33,000 people and the only local laboratory.. We are 
already in competition with clinicians who choose to send them to a cheaper 
outsource. A number of scenarios come to mind:

Cheap labs will no longer be any cheaper - we get the business back (most 
everyone in town as an alimentary canal and skin exposed to too much Sun) and I 
keep my job :) (Most everyone will retain their alimentary canals and skin so 
histology remains sustainable)

Cheap labs continue to bill less, increasing their volume by draining ours 
away and I lose my job. :(

Corporate starts housing regional laboratories, shutting down the smaller 
ones (like us) and I lose my job or I uproot my family and move to the 
regional. :!

Corporate could continue to subsidize the smaller labs, draining resources 
from other hospitals or services. However, 88305 is only one of many, many, 
many cuts across the health care industry. There may be no monies to redirect 
and a lot of people lose their jobs across the system in all disciplines. :(  :(

We offer something the cheap labs cannot and we weather the storm and hope 
for the best.

As to some of the comments made over the last few days about politics and 
politicians: I know who I support, but this issue is not even a factor. 
Healthcare reform is happening and will happen. Maybe in a different form, 
maybe not - but it is coming and in many ways, it is here. 

Example: Two years ago, the insurance company that covered my company health 
plan just abandoned their health care coverage. They cannot make a profit on 
it. We got another insurance company, and the coverage was less impressive, but 
the good news is I got to pay more for it! Another increase in premiums the 
next year and more slated for the upcoming enrollment. Its just the way it's 
going to be. Private option, public option, business option, but there is 
really no option.

What am I doing? I've kept a bathtub full of water since Y2K and learned to 
cure a ham, bake bread and make cheese, beer and wine. I also have two boxes of 
band-aids, two botttles of hydrogen peroxide and a clean toothbrush. Got a 
NetFlix subscription. Got a bible for guidence and a copy of Atlas Shrugged as 
a warning indicator. Kids are all married off and the wife doesn't eat much. 
Let the apocalypse come!

Have a greaty day! - Bill






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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Donadio
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 10:33 AM
To: Bernice Frederick; Webster, Thomas S.; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Devasting news on 88305TC component

88305 is the most common code anywhere, hospitals POL. 





From: Bernice Frederick b-freder...@northwestern.edu
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org; 
'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Devasting news on 88305TC component

Bear in mind it only 88305. 't's not the only CPT code we use for billing. Just 
all those biopsies..Yes, that will mess up those independent labs that just 
do biopsies.
Bernice

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Senior Research Tech
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL
Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center
Northwestern University
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
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To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Devasting news on 88305TC component

It is terrible for anyone that works in an AP lab. There will be job loss from 
this and some labs will close their doors. There is a lot of blame for this to 
go around. I blame client billing the most. The government is tired of being 
the pull through business for labs that are doing the TC so low. Why should 
the government pay so much when some labs are doing the TC for peanuts in these 
client billing schemes? I am sure that played a huge role in why they made such 
a drastic cut.


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RE: [Histonet] Disposal of used lab equipment

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Wow, so an AO 820 would buy a used car! :) 

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
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I took some of mine to a place that buys scrap metal. They pay by the pound.
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
8901 S. Santa Fe, Suite G
Oklahoma City, OK 73139
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Subject: [Histonet] Disposal of used lab equipment
 

   We have upgraded some of our equipment in recent months and repla= ced
   some VERY OLD equipment that is just taking up space now.

   = 




  


   I have contacted some of the used equipment man= ufacturers and no one
   is interested in taking this equipment off our hands.
  




  


   My  question  is  how do you dispose = of used histology equipment.  I
   don't  know  if our local landfill will = take it.  Is there a service
   out there who will come haul it away?


  

   I appreciate any feedback.
  

    = ;
  

   Donna S. Ingersoll, B.S., HTL, CT(ASCP)
  

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Metal molds

[O'Donnell, Bill]

, and maybe chipping out more frequently, or even the 
 whole bottom surface to lift off the cassette. I guess I have some 
 pet peeves with this topic, so thanks for letting me get that out!
  
  
  
  
  Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
   From: valerie.han...@parrishmed.com
   To: billodonn...@catholichealth.net;
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   Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:51:01 -0400
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   Subject: [Histonet] RE: Metal molds
   
   We clean our molds once a week. Soakthem in Xylene to remove
 paraffin, soak in 100% alcohol to remove xylene, rinse in running 
 water, dry and spray with mold release solution.
   
   Valerie A. Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU(FL) Histology Section Chief 
   Parrish Medical Center
   951 N. Washington Ave.
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   OK folks, I know I should be smarter than this and I haven't seen
 discussion on itlately 
   
   Are people cleaning their metal embedding molds after evey
 embedding session?
   
   If not, how often do you clean them? 
   
   Do you clean them at all?
   
   If you clean them, how do you do it? 
   
   Thanks
   
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[Histonet] Metal molds

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 OK folks, I know I should be smarter than this and I haven't seen
discussion on it lately 

Are people cleaning their metal embedding molds after evey embedding
session?

If not, how often do you clean them? 

Do you clean them at all?

If you clean them, how do you do it? 

Thanks

Bill
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RE: [Histonet] back up cryostat

[O'Donnell, Bill]

In the Navy, we had a saying Two is one, one is none If the cryostat
is something you depend on, it will go down unexpectedly. You need two.
The backup doesn't need to be new. Also you could have a relationship
with a nearby hospital or MOHS lab that would allow you to utilize
theirs in case of a sudden breakdfown. We have a backup that probably
only gets used every 18 months, but it allows us to break down the main
one for cleaning and still have the peace of mind that we are still up
is a frozen should be needed. Good Luck - Bill

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Subject: [Histonet] back up cryostat

I would like to know what the consensus is on having a backup cryostat.
Does anyone have a back up cryostat?

I am nervous about not having a backup cryostat

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RE: [Histonet] Changing dynamics in histotechnology

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Well stated 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Changing dynamics in histotechnology

The advances of science and technology cannot and should not be stopped. These 
are the beginnings of the XXIst century and in the same way that many (most) 
highly manual manufacturing jobs that left our soil to not return, in the same 
way histotechs have to learn new working ways, new technologies.
We cannot remain static hopping that our jobs will remain as they were 
yesterday or are now.
In the same way that old workers need to retrain to survive, histotechs need 
also to train and embrace the new technologies.
We cannot expect that if a diagnostic can be made quicker and better using a 
new molecular or genetic techniques the pathologists are not going to use and 
remain committed to the traditional ways just to save our positions.
It is the law of life: adapt or perish!
René J.



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With mixed emotions I read this article, not because of its context or 
information, but rather the outlook for our future.  

I would like to pole on the histonet today, who is enter in:

1.  Digital Pathology
2.  Molecular Testing (ISH, PCR, Next Gene Sequencing) 3.  Automation Semi to 
complete 4.  Barcoding 

A good question to ask is, are we, as Histology professionals, positioned to 
make this change.  Case in point, how many people are signed up and preparing 
for this transition at the NSH convention this year?  

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RE: [Histonet] Osmium tetroxide staining for lipids

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I agree w Rene on this one - do not use this stuff if you do not have to - and 
in 2012 (or at least in the last 20 years or more) - you do not HAVE to! - Oil 
Red O is far safer - Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:32 AM
To: Sheila Adey; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Osmium tetroxide staining for lipids

Osmium tetroxide is one of the most dangerous substances you can use in the 
laboratory. Your pathologist probably read some article or found an old photo 
of fat stained with osmium tetroxide and now wants you to do the same thing.
The problem is that the fat is allowed to react to the fumes of this very nasty 
substance and this is a very dangerous step.
Nowadays this is never done. If he wants to demonstrate fat, freeze the 
tissue, prepare a frozen section and us Oil Red to demonstrate fat.
This is the most current measure.
On the other hand, as you point out, osmium tetroxide is used in electron 
microscopy.
René J.



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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:30 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Osmium tetroxide staining for lipids


Hi Everyone:

One of my pathologists wants me to look into Osmium Tetroxide for staining 
lipids. From what I can gather on the internet, it looks like it is used in 
Electron microscopy for fixation and staining.
Is anyone using this procedure for routine 4 micrometer sections?

Thanks
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RE: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I know of no rules, though there may well be. I do know that several
years ago a patient was injected (IV)with formalin in the OR. Results
were NOT good. I know that the OR in the place I was working at the time
would no longer allow for formalin in the OR suite. The tissues were put
in formalin in a separate area - by OR staff.  

Bill

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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 6:05 PM
To: Debra Siena
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms

I would be interested in the replies as well.  To add to that, I've
heard the same thing about glutartaldehyde, do the same rules apply?

Thanks,
Paula
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Supervisor, Clinical Electron Microscopy Laboratory Duke University
Health System Rm.#251M, Duke South, Green Zone Durham, North Carolina
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P: 919.684.2091

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 Hi All,

 I would like to ask if anyone has heard of any new regulations or laws

 that state that the Operating Room can't have formalin available in 
 the room so that they can place formalin onto the sample right away?  
 I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, if you could tell me more

 about where it is coming from so that I can access a copy of it.  We 
 have had some inquiries and I have not heard of this.  I appreciate 
 any help that you can give and sorry, that I don't have more
information.  Best wishes.

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 StatLab Medical Products
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RE: [Histonet] microscope ocular questions

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Tim,

The duel-adjustable eyepiece vs the single adjustable one, I believe has
to do with the type of prism that is used. 

Mis-matched eyepieces can be a problem, especially if from different
manufacturers or even magnification. Magnification differences would be
somewhat obvious as you will never get them to focus for two eyes. 

In order to use a binocular telescope (really cool instrument, once had
the chance to use one of those) you need, not only matched eyepieces,
but ideally from the same lot #. However, focusing two ten-inch
telescopes to the same focal plane is a bit touchier than a microscope.
Its one of the reasons you don't see too many of them.
Have you tried simply swapping them (left to right/right to left)? 



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Morken,
Timothy
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:49 PM
To: Lee  Peggy Wenk; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] microscope ocular questions

Thanks Peggy, 

That is clear. I used microscopes for years with one fixed ocular and
one focusable ocular. I was wondering about why now both oculars are
focusable yet one has more usability than the other. Maybe to
accomodate greater variation? Or maybe is due to the advent of parfocal
microscopes

 I found some instructions on parfocal adjustment that refers to setting
both oculars to zero when doing the initial focus at high magnification,
then setting the ocular adjustment for each eye at low magnification. So
that makes sense for individualistic adjustment. However, I was asked
why one ocular has easier use and more graduations that the other and I
didn't have a good answer to that...The person thought the oculars were
not the same so there was some problem with the microscope.

Tim

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Peggy Wenk
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:27 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] microscope ocular questions


Tim, etal:

This is easily understood:  focusing and setup work the same on
binoculars, one eyepiece is focused with the main focusing system, the
other is used to match focusing with both eyes.  First focus the scope
(binoculars or microscope) thru the simple (non focusing) eyepiece, then
use the focusing eyepiece to fine tune focus for the other eye.  Once
you've determined the setting on the focusing eyepiece, you can return
the scope to this setting with ease and you should be able to use the
scope for hours at a time without fatigue.

Each microscope or binoculars is different.  The setting for each person
will be different (everybody's eyes are different).  Each of our eyes
are different, thus the need for independent focusing for one eye.

Try defocusing the focusing eyepiece and using scope for a period.
Your eyes will have to work overtime to keep the image in focus (if you
are young you might last longer than I would at 65) and you could get a
headache or suffer fatigue.

Lee Wenk  (Peggy's husband)


-Original Message-
From: Morken, Timothy
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:39 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] microscope ocular questions

Histonet gurus,

Why is each microscope ocular marked and operated differently? For
instance the right one has a knurled focusing ring,  is easily focused
and has detailed graduations while the left one is not really set up to
focus quickly and has only minimal graduations? Always wondered about
this but can't find anything about it!

Thanks for your insights!

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department
of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center
505 Parnassus Ave, Box 1656
Room S570
San Francisco, CA 94143

(415) 353-1266 (ph)
(415) 514-3403 (fax)
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RE: [Histonet] 6 New Histology Opportunities

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 
Matt, would be interested in learning a bit more about the two positions
listed below. Please contact me via my private e-mail
b...@deaconbill.com Thanks - Bill O'Donnell



Below are the current searches we have available.



*Field Applications Specialist - Northeast* - Histology Consumables
(Field based position, can live near a major airport.)



*Field Applications Specialist - Southeast* -  Histology Consumables
(Field based position, can live near a major airport.)


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RE: [Histonet] (no subject)

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 Am considering a job change. 30 years histology experience, bench and
supervisor. (HT)ASCP, QIHC
Please do not respond in the histo-net, but to my private e-mail
b...@hphisto.com 

Bill

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Tesar
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:58 PM
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Hi!
Please erase me from your mailing list!
Thank you best regards Miha
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Barcoding specimen tracking, lessons you learned

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Dumpster diving should be rare among histotechs, but I suspect we have
all done it in one form or another at some point in our careers. Vinnie,
yours is the most extreme senerio I recall.  Bill

-Original Message-
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Della
Speranza, Vinnie
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:55 PM
To: Della Speranza, Vinnie; Kim Donadio
Cc: Histonet; Morken,Timothy
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Barcoding specimen tracking, lessons you
learned


 in order to protect the innocent I want to mention that the lost
kidney biopsy that was successfully found in a mountain of red bag waste
occurred at another facility and not where I am currently employed.
This is one of those experiences you never forget but fortunately had a
happy ending and has been the subject of workshops I've given for NSH.


Vinnie Della Speranza, MS, HTL(ASCP)
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
Medical University of South Carolina
165 Ashley Avenue MSC 908
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
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[Histonet] Formalin asfety question

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 
Is formalin an RCRA regulated waste? I am having some difficulty getting
this answered and figured someone who is much brighter than myself out
there may well know. If anyone has a reference, that would be a huge
help

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

SERENITY is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm.

Cultivate it in PRAYER!

 



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Richard
Cartun
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:21 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] know error system - prostate biopsies

I am curious how many of you working in hospital or non-hospital
Anatomic Pathology labs are using the know error system for prostate
biopsy/patient DNA confirmation?  Thank you.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology  Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic
Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
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RE: [Histonet] Formalin asfety question

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 
I withdraw the inquiry. Thanks

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O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:27 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Formalin asfety question

 
Is formalin an RCRA regulated waste? I am having some difficulty getting
this answered and figured someone who is much brighter than myself out
there may well know. If anyone has a reference, that would be a huge
help

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC Senior Histologist Good
Samaritan Hospital 10 East 31st Street Kearney, NE 68847 

SERENITY is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm.

Cultivate it in PRAYER!

 



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Richard
Cartun
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:21 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] know error system - prostate biopsies

I am curious how many of you working in hospital or non-hospital
Anatomic Pathology labs are using the know error system for prostate
biopsy/patient DNA confirmation?  Thank you.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology  Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic
Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
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RE: [Histonet] placenta encapsulation

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Now THATS NATURAL CHILDBIRTH!

In my 30 years of histology, I have had two such requests.
(Interestingly, one was about ten years ago - must have been an early
adopter) 

Risk management has a much bigger headache than I do, I just deliver it
to their department, they get it to the patient. 

Question for histonetters - Is this cannibalism? One of the questions I
was never allowed to ask at an interview What is your feeling about
cannibalism? Maybe I may allowed to ask it now. - Just having some fun,
I do not advocate cannibalism, and I am sorry if I offeneded any
cannibals (in the vein of redneck lent thread) - Bill

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bob
Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:18 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] placenta encapsulation

Just when you thought life couldn't get weirder, it does.

I've been hearing scattered tales of women eating their own (actually
their babies') placentas for years, but I didn't know about placenta
encapsulation until my daughter's college classmate Nancy Redd (she's
at nancyredd.com) bylined a New York Times story
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/i-regret-eating-my-placent
a/?scp=1sq=placentast=cse

and then got on ABC news this morning.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/eating-placenta-trend-safe-16019081

It seems the pill-'n'-potion culture has come to the rescue, with
services (they seem to be local operations, no mail-order, probably how
they slip under the regulatory radar) that for $200 or so will dry and
grind up your baby's placenta and put it into large gelatin capsules. It
has to be your own baby's placenta, by the way. Here's a graphic
demonstration of how it's done
http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read/1577334/Placenta_Encapsulation_Inst
ructions_w_Pictures

And here's a FAQ that answers some, but not all questions a pathology
service might have.
http://birth-wise.org/faq

They want the placenta refrigerated, or possibly frozen. Formaldehyde is
prohibited.

Seems to me that this could turn into a major headache for a pathology
service, and that some conferring with the necessary people in advance
would be a good idea.

An obvious concern would be bacterial overgrowth.

E!

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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RE: [Histonet] placenta encapsulation

[O'Donnell, Bill]

OK, this is too funny. I swear I got this message concerning my last
post. I wonder what triggered it? Are ca**ibals now a protected
minori*y?

This email has violated the R-AC-IAL DIS-CRIMI_NATION.
and Quarantine entire message has been taken on 3/28/2012 1:36:10 PM.
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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:33 PM
To: Bob Richmond; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] placenta encapsulation

Now THATS NATURAL CHILDBIRTH!

In my 30 years of histology, I have had two such requests.
(Interestingly, one was about ten years ago - must have been an early
adopter) 

Risk management has a much bigger headache than I do, I just deliver it
to their department, they get it to the patient. 

Question for histonetters - Is this cannibalism? One of the questions I
was never allowed to ask at an interview What is your feeling about
cannibalism? Maybe I may allowed to ask it now. - Just having some fun,
I do not advocate cannibalism, and I am sorry if I offeneded any
cannibals (in the vein of redneck lent thread) - Bill

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bob
Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:18 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] placenta encapsulation

Just when you thought life couldn't get weirder, it does.

I've been hearing scattered tales of women eating their own (actually
their babies') placentas for years, but I didn't know about placenta
encapsulation until my daughter's college classmate Nancy Redd (she's
at nancyredd.com) bylined a New York Times story
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/i-regret-eating-my-placent
a/?scp=1sq=placentast=cse

and then got on ABC news this morning.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/eating-placenta-trend-safe-16019081

It seems the pill-'n'-potion culture has come to the rescue, with
services (they seem to be local operations, no mail-order, probably how
they slip under the regulatory radar) that for $200 or so will dry and
grind up your baby's placenta and put it into large gelatin capsules. It
has to be your own baby's placenta, by the way. Here's a graphic
demonstration of how it's done
http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read/1577334/Placenta_Encapsulation_Inst
ructions_w_Pictures

And here's a FAQ that answers some, but not all questions a pathology
service might have.
http://birth-wise.org/faq

They want the placenta refrigerated, or possibly frozen. Formaldehyde is
prohibited.

Seems to me that this could turn into a major headache for a pathology
service, and that some conferring with the necessary people in advance
would be a good idea.

An obvious concern would be bacterial overgrowth.

E!

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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RE: [Histonet] re: April fools prank

[O'Donnell, Bill]

We were safe as long as their egos were intact. 

-Original Message-
From: Podawiltz, Thomas [mailto:tpodawi...@lrgh.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:34 AM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; Kara Lee; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: April fools prank

The one that almost got us in a lot of trouble was the one that we had
everyone convinced that I had been TDY'd to Quantico instead of going on
leave. The best part about that one, was while the Officers in charge
were running around trying to figure out who changed my orders from
leave to TDY, no one thought to go to Sue's lab and ask her were I
really was. The only thing that kept us from getting in trouble was none
of the officers wanted to explain to the base Admiral why the fell for
the joke. I still laugh when I think about that. 


Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220



-Original Message-
From: O'Donnell, Bill [mailto:billodonn...@catholichealth.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:40 PM
To: Podawiltz, Thomas; Kara Lee; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: April fools prank

Tom,

Not always a simple, fun prank, but bordering on the, I don't
know..psycopathic? (I won't mention them, as someone might actually
do them, then I'd have all those court appearences to deal with and
phycological evaluations I just don't have that kind of time
anymore) Of all the stunts we pulled, the ONLY one that ever got me in
trouble was putting carbonated water in someones waterbath. Certainly
one of the more benign efforts. I will likely do a lot of time in
purgatory for some of those, mostly because they still cause me to
smile, even after all these years. And to think we have become respected
professionals and pillars of society. Who'd-a-thunk it?  - Bill

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Podawiltz, Thomas
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:20 PM
To: Kara Lee; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: April fools prank

I used to be real bad about pulling pranks in my younger days. If fact,
there were three of use in our Navy lab that pranked each other all the
time. Then to the horror of the rest of the staff we joined forces and
starting pranking everyone else. It finally got to the point that all we
had to do was make a comment about something and watch everyone's
paranoia go up. Funny thing was on April first we never did a
thing...and that drove the staff nuts. 



Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kara Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:59 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: april fools prank




One must always consider who the prank is being pulled on.  If the
person is sensitive or not quite in line with your own Humor a prank
should not be pulled.  As people working in the science industry, we
have all been trained to observe.  If a person is not the type to deal
well with that type of humor, don't bother them and let them be.  Or,
ask if they want to be included in playing a prank on someone else who
lives for seeing what their co-workers are doing to them next..I had a
co-worker who was bummed when we were all too busy to mess with each
others stuff one April 1st one year. 

Pranks and jokes should always make the other person laugh or smile just
as much as you do, and don't forget to help them clean up the mess you
made...but I think we all know that, right? ;)

Enjoy life with your co-worker friends, and laugh! I mean, we do spend
over 50% of our lives with these people.

Cheers everyone!
Kara 


 From: s...@stowers.org
 To: hmarlat...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:14:41 -0500
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: april fools prank
 CC: 
 
 Heather, I see no harm in a fake spider.  That would be fun.  But, I
totally agree with what Barry just wrote.  Some of these other pranks
are out of line, in my opinion.  I'm all for having fun and enjoying the
spirit of the day, but I don't believe in aggravating or embarrassing
someone for your satisfaction.  I have also pulled the hot dog trick on
a resident pathologist.  He loved it. 
 Sharon
 
 
 
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
 heather marlatt
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:25 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] re: april fools prank
 
 I've been known to leave a fake spider in an embedder for the morning 
 person.although it wasn't april fools just for fun it got a great 
 reaction

RE: [Histonet] re: April fools prank

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Tom,

Not always a simple, fun prank, but bordering on the, I don't
know..psycopathic? (I won't mention them, as someone might actually
do them, then I'd have all those court appearences to deal with and
phycological evaluations I just don't have that kind of time
anymore) Of all the stunts we pulled, the ONLY one that ever got me in
trouble was putting carbonated water in someones waterbath. Certainly
one of the more benign efforts. I will likely do a lot of time in
purgatory for some of those, mostly because they still cause me to
smile, even after all these years. And to think we have become respected
professionals and pillars of society. Who'd-a-thunk it?  - Bill

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Podawiltz, Thomas
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:20 PM
To: Kara Lee; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: April fools prank

I used to be real bad about pulling pranks in my younger days. If fact,
there were three of use in our Navy lab that pranked each other all the
time. Then to the horror of the rest of the staff we joined forces and
starting pranking everyone else. It finally got to the point that all we
had to do was make a comment about something and watch everyone's
paranoia go up. Funny thing was on April first we never did a
thing...and that drove the staff nuts. 



Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kara Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:59 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: april fools prank




One must always consider who the prank is being pulled on.  If the
person is sensitive or not quite in line with your own Humor a prank
should not be pulled.  As people working in the science industry, we
have all been trained to observe.  If a person is not the type to deal
well with that type of humor, don't bother them and let them be.  Or,
ask if they want to be included in playing a prank on someone else who
lives for seeing what their co-workers are doing to them next..I had a
co-worker who was bummed when we were all too busy to mess with each
others stuff one April 1st one year. 

Pranks and jokes should always make the other person laugh or smile just
as much as you do, and don't forget to help them clean up the mess you
made...but I think we all know that, right? ;)

Enjoy life with your co-worker friends, and laugh! I mean, we do spend
over 50% of our lives with these people.

Cheers everyone!
Kara 


 From: s...@stowers.org
 To: hmarlat...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:14:41 -0500
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] re: april fools prank
 CC: 
 
 Heather, I see no harm in a fake spider.  That would be fun.  But, I
totally agree with what Barry just wrote.  Some of these other pranks
are out of line, in my opinion.  I'm all for having fun and enjoying the
spirit of the day, but I don't believe in aggravating or embarrassing
someone for your satisfaction.  I have also pulled the hot dog trick on
a resident pathologist.  He loved it. 
 Sharon
 
 
 
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:25 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] re: april fools prank
 
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RE: [Histonet] Re: Color Blindness Testing

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Almost exact same situation with me Tom. Navy refused my application for
Nuclear Engineering and made me a Medical Technologist instead. It
struck me as funny the first time I had to identify an eosiniphil. Then
I went to histolgy. Apparently the Navy didn't want me around things
that could endanger a lot of people at once.. Just one at a time. 

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

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Cultivate it in PRAYER!

 




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McNemar
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:22 PM
To: 'Bob Richmond'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Color Blindness Testing

I've been watching this thread with great interest  I have been in
Histology for 30+ years now and am myself colorblind (at least according
to the Unites States Navy).  I do see color even though I could not pass
the old card test (failed it 3 times).  My problem is with shades of
color.  I cannot distinguish real light shades or real dark shades.

I started my laboratory life about 32 years ago on an aircraft carrier
and was trained to read diffs, ph strips, etc. by a senior lab tech who
was... you guessed it, color blind!

The point of all of this is that you can do histology even if you cannot
pass the test for colorblindness.  For myself, if I know what a color is
supposed to be and what that color looks like to me, I generally do not
have any problems at all. As mentioned below, I too have trouble with
acid fast stains.  I cannot judge the stain quality of the acid fast
stain and don't even bother to look at them.

I was very nearly fired after only a short time in my present position
when the Medical Director found out that I was colorblind.  He couldn't
see how I could possibly do histology.  I convinced him to give me a
chance and 28 years later I am still here.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
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Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:59 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Color Blindness Testing

Laurie asks: Does  anyone  know of any (free) online testing for color
blindness? Does  anyone have an alternate method that they have used to
satisfy CAP requirements?

Here are some online Ishihara plates quickly found through Wikipedia:

http://offsetpressman.blogspot.com/2009/10/color-blindness-test-for-prin
ters.html

There are many others. Two reservations: Color monitors don't reproduce
colors with sufficient accuracy. And an online test may not satisfy
bureaucrats. You'd have to ask.

I have normal color vision, but I've been interested in color blindness
among pathologists for about 50 years. I know of only one major problem,
finding red acid-fast bacilli in a blue-background stain. This problem
should be solved by banning light-microscopic acid-fast stains,
something the CAP should have done years ago.

I don't like the implication of color-blindness testing in the absence
of a significant problem. Can somebody lose their job, or not get hired
in the first place, because of color-blindness?

It may be Good Management, but it's not good medicine or good social
policy.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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RE: [Histonet] fire extinguishers

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Use of halon extinguishers Do not used in a small or closed space.
The way it works is by rapidly depleting oxygen available for the fire.
May well do the same for you. 

Just sayin.. Machinery is replacable.

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Linda
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:49 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] fire extinguishers

Does anyone have a Halon or Ansul Clean guard fire extinguisher in the
lab?  The company that does our sprinkler system has suggested that we
have that kind.

Thanks,
Linda


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RE: [Histonet] Interview Questions

[O'Donnell, Bill]

It would seem that questions like How do you feel about cannibalism?
might also be out but might be far more helpful; than phone questions.


On the serious side, when I was much younger I hired a person who was
able to answer all the right histo questions and so I hired him. He
turned out to be a poser, who, shortly after I fired him showed up at a
local university with a lab coat that listed him as Dr. He had indeed
worked in a histo lab, but as a lab assistant, and so the the
understanding of what a histologist does was well rehearsed. (BTW, it
topok me about two weeks to catch on, though the more experienced techs
in the department figured it out almost right away)

To be fair, it was during a time in hiring history when HR departments
were not willing to give useful reference data and there were only a
handful of questions they would even ask when checking. None of them
were particularly useful or telling. For inistance, they would not ask
if the person was an histo tech, but would simply ask, did he indeed
work at your institution? 

The place where I worked required little or nothing for proof of
experience. There was no background check either.

Today, however, reference checking is a lot easier and more reliable.

I guess my point here is that a good reference check needs to be done as
well weeding them out by histo questions.  I'm sure your HR folks will
do a fine job of this.

Also, once you have determined that they actually have the skills, or a
realistic potential of gaining them, questions concerning dynamics of
interaction are appropriate, though may lead to wrong impressions in the
mind of the applicant. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Breeden,
Sara
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:52 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Interview Questions

So far, I am TOTALLY impressed and so grateful for your suggestions.
And here's why... did I ever tell anyone out there what the FIRST
question I was asked by the pathologist at my interview?   It was.
(wait for it)

 

How do you feel about personal phone calls?.  Un-freakin' believable.
I sure don't want someone to remember ME that way!!!

 

Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

New Mexico Department of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

1101 Camino de Salud NE

Albuquerque, NM  87102

505-383-9278 (Histology Lab)

 

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RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy update

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I would expect the trend to go toward specimen and not block, perhaps
even case and not specimen. It comes down to health care cost reduction
and health-care reform which are turning out to be the  same thing. I
don' care who's holding the wheel, so long as gov't is doing the
driving, we can expect this sort of thing.  - Have a great new year -
Bill

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Dorothy L
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:33 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] NCCI policy update

Is everyone aware that beginning 1/1/12, we can no longer bill for each
block regarding IHC billing, only one unit of billing for each part type
no matter how many blocks are stained?  Also IHC cocktail stains, such
as PIN4 must now be billed as one unit even though multiple antibodies
are reported out.

Kind of a surprising reversal of the policy set in motion 10/1/2009.
SPECIMEN becomes the unit of service rather than block(s) for IHC codes
88342, 88360, and 88361.

Happy New Year to everyone out there.  May 2012 find you happiness and
health!

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[Histonet] Histo net

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 I'm not sure who the admin is here at histonet. Could the admin please
contact me. Thanks

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

SERENITY is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm.

Cultivate it in PRAYER!

 




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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Langenberg, Stacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:47 AM
To: kcasti...@frii.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] PAS CONTROLS (BUGS)

PLEASE DELETE ME FROM GROUP.


Thanks
Stacey

Sent from myTouch 4G

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From: kcasti...@frii.com kcasti...@frii.com
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Subject: [Histonet] PAS CONTROLS (BUGS)
Date: Wed, Nov 9, 2011 7:19 am



HI EVERYONE,

WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND PAS (BUGS)CONTROL BLOCKS.  DO NOT
REALLY WANT TO BUY CONTROL SLIDES FROM A VENDOR.  ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE
ANY YOU COULD SEND ME LIKE ONE OR TWO?  THANKS FOR ALL WHO ADDRESS.
KRISTY

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RE: [Histonet] Luciferase IHC

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Actually, I have found that holy water reduces its sensitivity, greatly 
diminishes its signal and will destroy its reactivity. (Listen closely and you 
will hear the slide scream and growl and tell you no one likes you)
(It's only Wednesday, what'll Friday look like?)

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Donadio
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:01 PM
To: Randolph-Habecker, Julie; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Luciferase IHC

You have to soak it in holy water, then all H311 will break out
 
Sorry, I couldnt resist. 
 
 



From: Randolph-Habecker, Julie jhabe...@fhcrc.org
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Luciferase IHC

Has anyone had good results staining for luciferase in FFPE tissue? If so, what 
antibody did you use.



Thanks!!



Julie



Julie Randolph-Habecker, Ph.D.

Director, Experimental Histopathology Shared Resources

Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center

1100 Fairview Ave N, DE-360

Seattle WA 98109-1024

Tel: 206-667-6119

Fax: 206-667-6845

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RE: [Histonet] Luciferase IHC/Holy water

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Very similar to how I cook kidneys. (ever notice why there are no great
Irish restaurants or cookbooks in the U.S.?

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

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Cultivate it in PRAYER!

 


 

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mtitf...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:42 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Luciferase IHC/Holy water


You can make your own holy water. You put regular water on a stove and
boil the hell out of it!

Mike Titford
USA - Pathology
Mobile AL
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RE: [Histonet] Ann Preece (was decal [sic] question)

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Ah, yes. That edition featured 105 illustrations, including 2
four-color plates (back in the day when that kind of stuff was worth
mentioning on the title page) 

Have a great day - Bill
 

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Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:39 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Ann Preece (was decal [sic] question)

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP), Senior Research Tech at the  Pathology
Core Facility of the  Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center at Northwestern
University in Chicago notes

Ann Preece states acid decal uses aqueous solutions of either formic, 
nitric, or trichloroacetic acid. Other methods mentioned are 
Ion-exchange resin, electrical ionization and chelation. The histo 
bible!

You've got to be almost as geezer as me to remember when Ann Preece's A
Manual for Histologic Technicians was the histo bible. I was fortunate
to be able to purloin a pristine (no stain spills) copy of the third
edition (1972) from the wreckage of an old histology lab about 20 years
ago.

Indeed, Patsy Ruegg! Decal is a trademark of the Decal Chemical
Corporation and should not be used generically for decalcifying
solutions. See decal-bone.com

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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RE: [Histonet] Ann Preece (was decal [sic] question)

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Was Willey the dog you and sue had in VA? Seems he ate everything -
including an electrical cord -  

-Original Message-
From: Podawiltz, Thomas [mailto:tpodawi...@lrgh.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:27 PM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; Bob Richmond; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ann Preece (was decal [sic] question)

I had a dachshund named Willey, he ate my copy, guess he like the
pictures.


Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220

 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:23 PM
To: Bob Richmond; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ann Preece (was decal [sic] question)

Ah, yes. That edition featured 105 illustrations, including 2
four-color plates (back in the day when that kind of stuff was worth
mentioning on the title page) 

Have a great day - Bill
 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bob
Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:39 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Ann Preece (was decal [sic] question)

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP), Senior Research Tech at the  Pathology
Core Facility of the  Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center at Northwestern
University in Chicago notes

Ann Preece states acid decal uses aqueous solutions of either formic, 
nitric, or trichloroacetic acid. Other methods mentioned are 
Ion-exchange resin, electrical ionization and chelation. The histo 
bible!

You've got to be almost as geezer as me to remember when Ann Preece's A
Manual for Histologic Technicians was the histo bible. I was fortunate
to be able to purloin a pristine (no stain spills) copy of the third
edition (1972) from the wreckage of an old histology lab about 20 years
ago.

Indeed, Patsy Ruegg! Decal is a trademark of the Decal Chemical
Corporation and should not be used generically for decalcifying
solutions. See decal-bone.com

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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[Histonet] OK, I give up

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 Why does methanol come in glass containers? Is anyone getting it from a
source that does not use glass? MSDS does not say it is reactive with
plastic. I'm sure someone out there can help me

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RE: [Histonet] RE: AFIP Closing

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Tom, That's great. I had never heard that one. - Bill
 

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Podawiltz, Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:32 PM
To: Parker, Helayne; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] RE: AFIP Closing

While I was in the Navy 77-83, I spent a week at AFIP for special stain
course they had. I got to meet Lee Luna, but did not get to spend a lot
of time with the man. However, my most memorable trip to AFIP was when I
was stationed at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland
(the old center). 
I was sent to AFIP with a box of specimens to deliver to one of the labs
and my duty driver got lost. I had read the manifest of the contents and
when the driver asked me if I had any idea of where were, I said No
and then followed up with this statement. You mean to tell me that we
have five brains in this car and we can't figure out where we are? Yep,
I was delivering three brains from an air crash accident for study. My
duty driver could not wait to get rid of the box. 


Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220

Tom

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Parker,
Helayne
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 1:14 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] AFIP Closing

 Sad that is where I went thru Histology Training at the Tri-Service
School of Histotechnology in 1985.  I was in a class of 10 Air Force
guys and I was Navy and there was one other Navy guy.  I was the only
female in my class.  It was interesting and have been doing Histology
non-stop since then- wow 25+ years has gone by fast.  


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RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - Tostick a Pin

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Here's a man with a beer on his mind (just barley)  Some typos ar just closer 
to my heart than others.

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - Tostick a 
Pin

Tom, 

I feel that this is very important conversation, not whining about the 
situation but shining a very bright light on an important subject. I agree that 
it is an opportunity to help shape a new HT if several factors are in place, 
the facility can afford the time, cost and personnel that it takes to train. 

Oh by and by the new HT is coming along and it will take months (much longer 
than the 3 probationary) to get them to the right place, luckily we can afford 
(just barley) the time, cost and personnel. At this time 2 months into the 
process they are not cutting small BX, STATS, embedding of BX, no immuno work 
and are not to be left alone in the lab. We are hopeful for a good outcome.

Matt Lunetta BS HT (ASCP)





 Podawiltz, Thomas 08/31/11 8:59 AM 
I have had one tech finish an online HT course and currently a second person 
looking at going the online route to her HT. In both cases as their supervisor 
I have had to sign on as their in house trainer. As a trainer it is my job to 
make sure that they know how to function well in Histology when they are 
finished. 

My first tech was working elsewhere when she started school and receive little 
support with her studies, one of the main reasons she came to work for me was 
how appalled I was to hear that she was getting not support. By the time she 
was finished I would of let her work on any specimen removed from either myself 
or anyone in my family. 

We get the HT's that we work to get. As a supervisor and trainer, I am only as 
good as my staff makes me look. If I can go on vacation and the lab does not 
miss a beat, then I have done my job correctly. 

So to everyone that gets a fresh tech who got short changed on their training, 
don't whine about it, take it as an opportunity to shape them to the HT that 
you need them to be. 

Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220 




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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Lunetta
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:15 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a 
Pin 

You might be surprised I too agree with Joyce and Richard. 

I understand very well that a new graduate will not be up to the skill level of 
an individual that has been working for a while. What I am surprised about is 
that this program seemed to teach to pass the test and has left all of the 
technical skills left to be taught by the persons 1st job. This could lead to 
several painful experiences for not only the facility but the new HT. 

Were is the disconnect. If a person is doing the OJT route they need to have at 
least one year of experience signed-off by a pathologist. If a person goes 
through a program who is responsible for making sure that the base-skills are 
there? Is there not some standards that a new graduate should be able to 
cut/embed so many blocks in an hour? Is it reasonable for a new graduate to 
take 1.5 hours to cut 5 (uterus, appendix, tonsil) one-cuts? From facing to 
lifting the slide off the water-bath? Or to take 2hrs to embed 15 (large tissue 
sections) one-cut blocks? 

So Richard is also right how is a new grad to get experiance without that 1st 
gig? But how much resposiblity should be placed on the 1st gig to train a new 
HT that is supose to have base skills in lab equipment, cutting, embeding, 
staining etal? 

More thoughts 
ciao
Matt Lunetta BS HT(ASCP) 




Edwards, Richard E. r...@leicester.ac.uk 

If you do not employ recently trained individuals, how on earth are they

going to obtain the experience that Matt craves, it's beyond me. My 
daughter recently qualified as an Occupational Therapist, when she asked

for the reason that she was unsuccessful in obtaining a post, they said 
that as a recen
tly graduated student she had no experience, what 
rubbish!!.Thankfully she has now obtained a position under more 
enlightened management that is to be found here!. 

Cheers 

Richard Edwards 
 Shirley A. Powell 08/30/11 6:32 PM  
I second that Joyce. 
sp 

 
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce 
[jwe...@sjha.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:17 PM 
To: 

RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvementandcompetencyassessment

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Tom, (and all those following this thread)

And we got that ;) perfection. 

(Warning, long rant ahead... Rene's might have been longer, but he
spread it out over a number of posts)

(Hi Rene, I enjoyed your rant.)

My biggest barrier in assimilating into the civilian workforce was
that perfection wasn't required or even at times expected. I still can't
get my head around that. Because of what was expected of me by my unit,
30 years later, my embedding is tight w nice, neat rows, cutting is neat
and aligned and staining is crisp. (However, I will not win any speed
contest) My point in this is not to blow my horn. Most of you out there
turn out the same or better quality. My point is this, when supervisors
and peers stop striving for perfection then there will always be a need
for skills assessments and re-training. There will be little or no
perfection.


Over the last thirty years of training and supervising, I have always
tried to instill the idea that we are dealing with a person's tissue.
Wrapped up in that is a lot of anxiety and stress that the patient is
having. The first thing a new trainee or tech had to do when they came
to me (in the civilian world)was spend a week shadowing phlebotomy so
that they got the chance to see some of the faces behind the samples. 

But in the last ten years or so, there has been too much emphasis on
speed as a standard of performance, and in general, there has been a
growing attitude that perfection isn't possible. (many factors to blame,
I suppose)

I once worked for a very demanding pathologist and because of his
expectations, the whole crew put out near perfection. Pathologists that
are OK with what they get, so long as they can make a diagnosis, are a
huge part of that problem.

But as supervisors, we only get what we expect of people and strive for
and example ourselves. 

(The rest of the rant is anecdotal and not very interesting, but since I
took the time to write it, here it is...)

This was also the period (Navy)when I had to do that monster practical
for the HT. Back then, it was not 7 or 8 slides, but many more with a
large number of special stains as well. I knew if it passed the guys in
our lab, it should be no problem passing the practical. The guy who took
the test at the same time I did, picked his tissues on Wednesday,
embedded them on Thursday cut cut and stained them on Saturday and
mailed them on Monday. He had no concern at all that his work wouldn't
be good enough. He passed the practical with a very respectable
percentile. I think that helps to bolster the idea that an expectation
that is demanded and fostered is one that can be confidently met. 

If people cheated. Then people cheated. There will always be that
element. To discard that requirement (the practical) because of the
cheat factor was a silly (remember, this is my rantnot yours) excuse
that I have heard from some people who were part of the decision.  What
was lost was the incredable effort that was needed to do that practical
and the experience of being able to produce registry quality slides.
That is not cheating themselves, but robbing every pathologist and
patient that followed until that person started to produce quality work.

(Rany over, thanks to those who hung out til the end I hope it was
worth it)

I hope every one has a great weekend, as I am off on Friday and will be
having a great weekend myself. Shalom - Bill

-Original Message-
From: Podawiltz, Thomas [mailto:tpodawi...@lrgh.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:21 PM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; Heath, Nancy L.; Jennifer MacDonald
Cc: Histonet Listserv (E-mail);
histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; D'Attilio, Shelley
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process
improvementandcompetencyassessment

Man did that bring back some memories. Bill and I worked together in the
same Navy lab and he is correct if a block was embedded wrong you would
get it in either the back of the head or between the shoulders. They
stopped throwing them at me the day I throw the block back at the
microtomist and hit him in the head. We were a tough crew that saw a
lot, did a lot, partied together a lot, but never lost the fact that we
were there for patient care and treated all the specimens and bodies as
if they came from a love one. When it came time for Bill and I to become
the trainers we were brutal in how to embed, section and all other
aspects of histology, I mean we only wanted perfection.


Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer. 
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220




-Original Message-
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:57 PM
To: Heath, Nancy L.; Jennifer MacDonald
Cc: Histonet Listserv (E-mail);
histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; D'Attilio, Shelley
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvementand

RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvementand competencyassessment

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Just to throw a somewhat funny situation into the mix. I learned my
embedding skills in the Navy. The basic method for learning all tasks
was 1. explain it, 2. demonstrate it, 3. do it. Each microtomist was
responsible for taking a good look at the block before cutting it. If
the embedding was not spot-on, the block was always returned for
reembedding. The method of return was to throw it at the back of my
head. They rarely missed. Very quickly, I got tired of being hit in the
head and my embedding improved. Can't do that kind of stuff now, even in
the military. Who knew that histology used to be a contact sport? We've
gotten so soft!

As to the other situation, as a histology supervisor, I was over
cytology in one of the labs I worked at. I doubt that I was much of a
manager to them as I knew next to nothing about their work. However, I
took the time to learn some aspects, and then just pretty much left them
alone. (It was a mutual respect, they pretty much left me alone too.)
They did a fine job of making me look good. I trusted them, and they
didn't do anything to betray that trust. Because of that, I would simply
sign-off on the occasional request. Evals were pretty easy as I simply
interviewed the pathologists, checked attendance and moved on. That
being said, I wouldn't want to have to do it again. They deserved
better, but we made it work, since it wasn't going to change.

Have a great day!

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Heath,
Nancy L.
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:39 AM
To: Jennifer MacDonald
Cc: Histonet Listserv (E-mail);
histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; D'Attilio,Shelley
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvementand
competencyassessment

Regardless of wether there were 8 blocks or eighteen blocks taking the
practical taught me to be precise with all of the hands on aspects of
Histology. Shame on the older techs from the practical days of not
keeping on top of their game with embedding. My comment was geared more
towards the newbies coming out of histo schools who can pass the exam
with flying colors but sit them in front of an embedding center or
microtome and they are all thumbs! As far as a manager, I myself would
rather have someone who has experience with histology over seeing my
work. Just once again the lack of respect of having the HT/HTL behind
your name.



From: Jennifer MacDonald [mailto:jmacdon...@mtsac.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:58 AM
To: Heath, Nancy L.
Cc: Histonet Listserv (E-mail);
histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; D'Attilio, Shelley;
Podawiltz, Thomas
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvement and
competencyassessment



I fail to see the correlation of a non HT person supervising the
Histology lab and the lack of a practical exam for HT/HTL staff.  One of
the issues that Shelley brought up was the staff lost or did not develop
their embedding skills.  Submission of a practical exam is not proof of
highly developed embedding skills.  For the HT exam there were 8 blocks
that were submitted (9 slides).  I know of cases where the blocks were
not even embedded or cut by the applicant. 




Heath, Nancy L. nhe...@lifespan.org 
Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 

08/25/2011 07:11 AM 

To
D'Attilio, Shelley sdatt...@stormontvail.org, Podawiltz, Thomas
tpodawi...@lrgh.org, Histonet Listserv (E-mail)
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
cc
Subject
RE: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvement and
competencyassessment






This is exactly why the powers that be should have NEVER gotten rid of
the practical portion of the HT/HTL board certification! 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
D'Attilio, Shelley
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:45 AM
To: Podawiltz, Thomas; Histonet Listserv (E-mail)
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Embedding process improvement and
competencyassessment

Hi Tom,
Thank you for your kind words.  I am off the bench almost completely.  I
can work in the gross room in a pinch and my counting skills are
excellent, so I can always file slides and block if an emergency
arises:)  I occasionally cover a bench in Chemistry as well, but my
staff is all pretty glad that I mostly stay in my office.  

Thanks so much for the embedding information.  The main problem we are
tackling at the moment is tissue orientation.  I have written a pretty
detailed embedding procedure that is being reviewed by the new histology
supervisor.  Our plan is to refresh the training of everyone on staff in

RE: [Histonet] Formalin down the drain??

[O'Donnell, Bill]

One should not automtically assume that laws are broken here. 

(Rant begins here)

First of all, it is the States that set the limits of what can and
cannot be dumped. All States must meet Federal standards,but States are
free to determine how they do that. (It's one of the benefits of the
American Revolution) Some states are more heavily regulated than others.
California and Colorado come to mind immediately.

Different organizations, locations and circumstances may allow for
disposal of products that may be diluted to such a degree as to be
negligable in the waste stream. Our institution generates 65,000 gallons
of waste water daily, which allows us to make the dilution limits of
anything that our histo lab could produce in a day. 

No laws are broken if I should pour xylene, formalin, alcohols or other
common compounds that we might generate on even our busiest days into
the waste stream. 

HOWEVER, while we may be allowed to do so by state and local
regulations, we have decided it is not prudent to do so and so we
collect, ship, neutralize or recycle most all that the histo lab
generates. We do this at the lab level, with lab funding. It is the
responsible thing to do, and we are morally and ethically bound to do
so, but we are not outside the law if we do not.

If your local municipal waste systems people give you the green light on
dumping formalin down the drain. you are not breaking the law,
federal or otherwise, in doing so. 

It is true that if you wish to affect things globally, one has to be
responsible locally.

Here is what my rant comes down to Make certain that you are meeting
local standards for your chemical disposal or you may well be breaking
the law. And a big thank you (from myself, my children, grandchildren
and great-grand children and that lady who sells me the slurpee at the
local convenience store) for anything anyone is doing above and beyond
that. 

:)Rant is over... Have a nice day :)  

You cannot Like this rant on Facebook or follow this rant on Twitter. 

Bill


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
mtitf...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:59 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Formalin down the drain??



I was a little distressed to read the message from Amy in Camp Hill,
Pennsylvania declaring she dumps everything (and I mean everything)
from her histology lab down the drain. There are a bunch of Federal Laws
governing handling and disposal of chemicals used in the histology
laboratory and she appears to be breaking several. The wastewater law
limits how much formalin you can discard down the sink (and you cannot
dilute as you go). The same law forbids disposal of organic solvents
like xylene, or solutions containing organic solvents. Local laws in
Pennsylvania may be more strict.

I recommend to Amy that she purchases a book like, Hazardous materials
in the histopathology laboratory by Janet  Richard Dapson and read the
whole thing cover to cover!

Michael Titford
Pathology USA
Mobile AL USA

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RE: [Histonet] Luciferase (OK here it is)

[O'Donnell, Bill]

OK here it isYou can stainfor it, but my policy is to only do it if If the 
devil makes me do it (Flip Wilson) 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Angela Bitting
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:13 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; sgoe...@mirnarx.com; Rene J Buesa
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Luciferase

ok there is a really BAD religious joke coming soon, isn't there?


 Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com 6/30/2011 12:00 PM 
You would have to have an antibody to it and I don't know any one exists, but I 
can be wrong.
René J.

--- On Thu, 6/30/11, sgoe...@mirnarx.com sgoe...@mirnarx.com wrote:


From: sgoe...@mirnarx.com sgoe...@mirnarx.com
Subject: [Histonet] Luciferase
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 11:55 AM


Can you stain for luciferase in tissue?



Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)

Histotechnologist

Mirna Therapeutics

2150 Woodward Street

Suite 100

Austin, Texas  78744

(512)901-0900 ext. 6912



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RE: [Histonet] Protcol for handling dementia brain biopsies

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Audrey,

Our policy is to treat brain biopsies for undiagnosed dementia as if
it were CJD. 

I don't know if I've been lucky or what, but I have only dealt with one
casein 30 years. 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pagan,
Audrey
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:10 AM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Protcol for handling dementia brain biopsies

Hello,

We are updating our CJD policy and the question of how to handle brain
biopsies with a clinical diagnosis of dementia came up.  These are
biopsies where CJD is not known or suspected.  We are considering if we
should follow CJD precautions and protocols for these biopsies.  I would
appreciate any feedback from those of you handling this kind of
specimen.
Thanks,

Audrey Pagan
Lab Manager
NYU Langone Medical Center
New York, NY

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RE: [Histonet] Retirement

[O'Donnell, Bill]

You had COTTON in your pipettes? We used hollowed out reeds with a bit
of papyrus in one end. No calibration But plenty accurate enough for
histo in those days.

However, there are a few things I do not miss from back in da' day.
Hand-stropping a knife for an hour, only to have it nicked by a staple
in the next hour. 

-Bill

 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
histot...@imagesbyhopper.com
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:48 PM
To: Paula Sicurello
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Amos Brooks
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Retirement

And remember mouth pipeting? oops, that's the cotton...

Eating and smoking in the lab was the norm.

Our alcohol had the tax stamp on it!  :o)

Michelle


On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Paula Sicurello pat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sheesh!  We used to have people smoke while working with propylene
oxide.
 
 Eating in your control pigs was part of the benefit of being a 
 graduate student to save on grocery money.
 
 Film?  My TEM used glass plates.
 
 Lab mates used to routinely drink diet coke and 100% ethanol on
Fridays.
 
 Wearing closed toed shoes was for wimps, you were just fast if you 
 dropped a steel wedge blade.
 
 We even wrote using the entire word and proper grammar, none of this 
 acronym stuff for us.
 
 Retirement?  What's that?
 
 Paula :-)
 
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Amos Brooks amosbro...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Agarose Gels!
... Listen you whipersnapper Agarose is the easy way out. When I 
 learned it we used to have to make up our own polyacrylamide gels. 
 That was after having to walk to work up hill both ways in 30 feet of
snow!
 
 (No nearer retirement)
 Crotchety Amos
 
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:24:12 -0400
 From: Emily Sours talulahg...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] Retirement
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 Retirement? I think by the time I get to that point, social security 
 will have run out.
 Then again, technology will be so advanced, I can tell stories about 
 the old days, where I logged on to the bbs by modem to post messages 
 to my friends and typed in my own html coding.
 We didn't have google when I was young!! Our cameras used film! And 
 you couldn't see how bad your pictures were until you developed that
film!!
 There was no PCR to sequence your DNA, you ran an agarose gel and 
 hoped for the best!! You could drink the 100% ethanol, there was no 
 denaturing! (okay that was before my time) You could smoke in the lab

 while you sectioned without gloves!! (okay that was too)
 
 Emily
 
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exhausted.
 You should live several lives while reading it.
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[Histonet] Retirement

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 OK, I know it is Friday, and I know that this may sound like a bit of a
jokebut I am 15-18 years out from retirement and my wife and I
want to retire someplace tropical And it would be smart to get
settled in such a location. So, if anyone knows of any openings in
Hawaii, Virgin Islands, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico for an experienced HT
(ASCP) QIHC  PLEASE let me know. Would be open to others, but would
prefer a US territory. I can be reached at b...@deaconbill.com

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Senior Histologist/Safety Officer
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

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RE: [Histonet] Retirement

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Ah... It's one thing to work w a bunch of histo techs It would be
quite another living in the same building. I fully expect to be a cranky
old Irishman someday (some woould say I got a good start) And since
a good part of my memory may well be gone (if genetics mean anything at
all) I might not want to be around really sharp objects oor others
in general (remember, I'll be cranky).

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Cynthia Robinson [mailto:robin...@mercyhealth.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:13 AM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Retirement

Bill,

I am about the same age as you are and would like the same type of
locale. Since there are so many of us in this field due to retire in the
next 15-18 years maybe we should consider investing in a Histotech
Retirement Community. Specimens could be shipped to us for processing
and staining. We could set up microtome stations in the common area and
we could get together and talk and cut at the same time and do it in a
wonderful climate with nice views and of courseat our own pace which
will be relaxed and more of a shuffle that a full out sprint. Anyone
have any suggestions for naming such a paradise? 

Ok...I'm just getting old and it is Friday..so hope you appreciate my
humor.

Have a good weekend everyone!
From here in the Midwest, where waterfront property is in abundance
along the Mighty MO

Cindi

Cindi Robinson HT(ASCP)
Mercy Medical Center
Dunes Medical Laboratories
350 W Anchor Dr
Dakota Dunes SD 57049
phone-712-279-2768
robin...@mercyhealth.com


 O'Donnell, Bill billodonn...@catholichealth.net 6/17/2011 11:00 
 AM 

 OK, I know it is Friday, and I know that this may sound like a bit of a
jokebut I am 15-18 years out from retirement and my wife and I
want to retire someplace tropical And it would be smart to get
settled in such a location. So, if anyone knows of any openings in
Hawaii, Virgin Islands, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico for an experienced HT
(ASCP) QIHC  PLEASE let me know. Would be open to others, but would
prefer a US territory. I can be reached at b...@deaconbill.com 

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC Senior Histologist/Safety
Officer Good Samaritan Hospital 10 East 31st Street Kearney, NE 68847 

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RE: [Histonet] Retirement

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Tom,

I imagine that Tequuila is at a premium in some tropical areas. But
rum 

-Original Message-
From: Podawiltz, Thomas [mailto:tpodawi...@lrgh.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM
To: Cynthia Robinson; O'Donnell, Bill; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Retirement

I 'm game for that as long as there is Tequila around. 



Tom Podawiltz, HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer
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[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cynthia
Robinson [robin...@mercyhealth.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:13 PM
To: Bill O'Donnell; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Retirement

Bill,

I am about the same age as you are and would like the same type of
locale. Since there are so many of us in this field due to retire in the
next 15-18 years maybe we should consider investing in a Histotech
Retirement Community. Specimens could be shipped to us for processing
and staining. We could set up microtome stations in the common area and
we could get together and talk and cut at the same time and do it in a
wonderful climate with nice views and of courseat our own pace which
will be relaxed and more of a shuffle that a full out sprint. Anyone
have any suggestions for naming such a paradise?

Ok...I'm just getting old and it is Friday..so hope you appreciate my
humor.

Have a good weekend everyone!
From here in the Midwest, where waterfront property is in abundance 
along the Mighty MO

Cindi

Cindi Robinson HT(ASCP)
Mercy Medical Center
Dunes Medical Laboratories
350 W Anchor Dr
Dakota Dunes SD 57049
phone-712-279-2768
robin...@mercyhealth.com


 O'Donnell, Bill billodonn...@catholichealth.net 6/17/2011 11:00 
 AM 

 OK, I know it is Friday, and I know that this may sound like a bit of a
jokebut I am 15-18 years out from retirement and my wife and I
want to retire someplace tropical And it would be smart to get
settled in such a location. So, if anyone knows of any openings in
Hawaii, Virgin Islands, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico for an experienced HT
(ASCP) QIHC  PLEASE let me know. Would be open to others, but would
prefer a US territory. I can be reached at b...@deaconbill.com

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC Senior Histologist/Safety
Officer Good Samaritan Hospital 10 East 31st Street Kearney, NE 68847

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RE: [Histonet] Retirement

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Well.. Maybe if the whole island paradise thing falls apart, NM
could be an option. I am getting too old to be too cold for too long.
(Nebraska)

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Breeden,
Sara
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:08 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Retirement

It seems that my reference to RETIREMENT has gotten everyone thinking
about it.  Heh...heh..  It has been suggested that I  reconnoiter in
advance of Those of You Who Won't Be Retiring Before I Do (February 29,
2012, if the creek don't rise...).  I would be happy to perform that
hazardous duty but I need more of those $5.00 donations coming in for
whatever it was that I posted last week (I hope my gray cells will
rejuvenate when I retire).  I won't need the money for travel because I
think I'm right where I need to be.  Have any of you thought about New
Mexico???  Just within the past year, it has occurred to me many times
why this is such a good choice for retirement.  We do not have
hurricanes, we do not have tornados (okay, maybe rarely), we are not
prone to earthquakes, the weather is jolly darn good 90% of the time
(spring is out - way too windy) and we don't have more than a couple or
four inches of snow in the winter.  We don't start our furnace/heater
until November and it's only in use until maybe early April.  The air
conditioner was just put to use two weeks ago and we won't need it past
the first part of September.  Low cost of living, lots of homes
(reasonably priced - info upon request) for sale and the number of
things one can do in New Mexico are practically endless.  We have
everything but a beach (and if California keeps shaking, we might have
beachfront property - not that I'd wish that on California...).  We have
skiing, a big lake (fondly called Elephant Butt [Butte]) for water
activities, stream, river and lake fishing out the kazoo, mountains to
climb, white sands in which to wallow, beautiful sunsets and terrible
drivers.  Oops - that one slipped out!  The margarita (and Bud Light)
are the State Drinks (if one is so inclined) and this is the Land of
Manana (read it like Spanish).  Manana is way much better than I needed
that right this very minute and no excuses!  Shaded patios, cool
evening breezes and gorgeous cool summer mornings (at least until 7:00
a.m.).  Besides, I need a replacement beginning March 1, 2012.  Brand
new lab, tech-designed, bright and LEED, tons of space, a separate
storage room for blocks and slides AND a volatile storage room with two
acid cabinets and two xylene/alcohol cabinets and a salary (that's
another subject, I do work for a State...).  Can't have everything, but
this is darned close.

 

And I do not work for the Chamber of Commerce!

 

Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

New Mexico Department of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

1101 Camino de Salud NE

Albuquerque, NM  87102

505-383-9278 (Histology Lab)

 

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RE: [Histonet] Retirement

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 I have recently traveled back from the future, and it does not bode
well for histologists. The robots are pretty reliable and can operate 14
hours on a single charge. They also do not have to wear safety glasses
when working with the laser microtomes. No vacations, no calling in
sick, no travelling to seminars (new software version upgrades come to
them)

I noticed that someone still has to come in in the morning to flip the
switches, but since CLIA will not likely consider that testing Well,
who'll need a histologist for that?

Funny though, pathologists are still around, but they are all workiing
in a single building near Area 72. (you don't want to know about area 72
unless you are still around in 2035, then EVERYONE will know about area
72) 

They spend their full 6 hour day looking at scanned images on big-screen
monitors and drinking coffee. It's not that the future really needs
them, but the AMA still lobbies for them more effectively than the ASCP
for us. 

- Bill

With apologies to all the really decent pathologists who monitor this
forum. (I have to be nice because my only usable skill someday might be
making a mean cup of coffee)

-Original Message-
From: Cynthia Pyse [mailto:cp...@x-celllab.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:51 PM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Retirement

As long as we don't have to go back to steel knives, old AO micrtomes
and the autotechnicon I'm in. I am also 15 to 18 years out. What is the
world of histology going to do without us. Who will know how to make a
solution of mucicarmine (not that I do anymore, but I could) or eosin?
The tech I train now look at me like I am speaking a foreign language
sometimes. Make me feel old, but closer to retirement.
Cindy

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:01 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Retirement


 OK, I know it is Friday, and I know that this may sound like a bit of a
jokebut I am 15-18 years out from retirement and my wife and I
want to retire someplace tropical And it would be smart to get
settled in such a location. So, if anyone knows of any openings in
Hawaii, Virgin Islands, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico for an experienced HT
(ASCP) QIHC  PLEASE let me know. Would be open to others, but would
prefer a US territory. I can be reached at b...@deaconbill.com

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC Senior Histologist/Safety
Officer Good Samaritan Hospital 10 East 31st Street Kearney, NE 68847 

SERENITY is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm.



 


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RE: [Histonet] Retirement

[O'Donnell, Bill]

This has been a fun thread However, I really would like to hear from
anyone looking to hire in tropical island hospitals/labs. - Bill

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ingles
Claire 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:51 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Retirement

But what about wildfires? :)
Otherwise send me an application. I have been to New Mexico (mostly
Abiquiu area) a few times and loved it. Not too sure about Alberquerque
though. Too many episodes of Cops based there. Taos is nice enough. ;)
Claire



From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Breeden,
Sara
Sent: Fri 6/17/2011 1:08 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Retirement



It seems that my reference to RETIREMENT has gotten everyone thinking
about it.  Heh...heh..  It has been suggested that I  reconnoiter in
advance of Those of You Who Won't Be Retiring Before I Do (February 29,
2012, if the creek don't rise...).  I would be happy to perform that
hazardous duty but I need more of those $5.00 donations coming in for
whatever it was that I posted last week (I hope my gray cells will
rejuvenate when I retire).  I won't need the money for travel because I
think I'm right where I need to be.  Have any of you thought about New
Mexico???  Just within the past year, it has occurred to me many times
why this is such a good choice for retirement.  We do not have
hurricanes, we do not have tornados (okay, maybe rarely), we are not
prone to earthquakes, the weather is jolly darn good 90% of the time
(spring is out - way too windy) and we don't have more than a couple or
four inches of snow in the winter.  We don't start our furnace/heater
until November and it's only in use until maybe early April.  The air
conditioner was just put to use two weeks ago and we won't need it past
the first part of September.  Low cost of living, lots of homes
(reasonably priced - info upon request) for sale and the number of
things one can do in New Mexico are practically endless.  We have
everything but a beach (and if California keeps shaking, we might have
beachfront property - not that I'd wish that on California...).  We have
skiing, a big lake (fondly called Elephant Butt [Butte]) for water
activities, stream, river and lake fishing out the kazoo, mountains to
climb, white sands in which to wallow, beautiful sunsets and terrible
drivers.  Oops - that one slipped out!  The margarita (and Bud Light)
are the State Drinks (if one is so inclined) and this is the Land of
Manana (read it like Spanish).  Manana is way much better than I needed
that right this very minute and no excuses!  Shaded patios, cool
evening breezes and gorgeous cool summer mornings (at least until 7:00
a.m.).  Besides, I need a replacement beginning March 1, 2012.  Brand
new lab, tech-designed, bright and LEED, tons of space, a separate
storage room for blocks and slides AND a volatile storage room with two
acid cabinets and two xylene/alcohol cabinets and a salary (that's
another subject, I do work for a State...).  Can't have everything, but
this is darned close.



And I do not work for the Chamber of Commerce!



Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

New Mexico Department of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

1101 Camino de Salud NE

Albuquerque, NM  87102

505-383-9278 (Histology Lab)



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RE: [Histonet] RE: OT: How do you call...

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Anatomic is correct. (The checks in the mail) 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Blazek,
Linda
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:38 PM
To: 'Breeden, Sara'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: OT: How do you call...

I vote for Anatomic Pathology.


Linda Blazek HT (ASCP)
Manager/Supervisor
GI Pathology of Dayton
Digestive Specialists, Inc
7415 Brandt Pike
Huber Heights, OH 45424
Phone: (937) 396-2623
Email: lbla...@digestivespecialists.com



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Breeden,
Sara
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:34 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] OT: How do you call...

I've figured out how to fund  my approaching retirement!  A poll!  So...
is the correct term Anatomical Pathology or Anatomic Pathology?
Send $5.00 with your email  reply and I'll have the down payment for
that tropical island with internet.  Seriously - what is the consensus
and/or the correct usage?  Figure I better get all these Deep Questions
answered while I have the chance.  (P.S., I'm only kidding about the
$5.00 but I do take PayPal).

 

Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

New Mexico Department of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

1101 Camino de Salud NE

Albuquerque, NM  87102

505-383-9278 (Histology Lab)

 

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RE: [Histonet] Lab Assistants Embedding

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Hi Angie,

Jan M has nailed it. Have a good weekend. - 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Angela
Bitting
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:14 AM
To: Janice A Mahoney; Mike Pence; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
histonet-reque...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Toni Rathborne
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Lab Assistants Embedding

Yes, I wondered about that reference too.
This is embedding, not grossing that I'm asking about.

 Mike Pence mpe...@grhs.net 1/21/2011 9:49 AM 
Why, ANP11610 has to do with Gross Examination Qualifications for techs
doing grossing.

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Rathborne, Toni
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:34 AM
To: Mahoney,Janice A; Angela Bitting; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
histonet-reque...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Lab Assistants Embedding


If you are a CAP inspected lab, be sure to determine if your lab
assistants qualify by meeting the guidelines in ANP11610.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of
Mahoney,Janice A
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:19 AM
To: 'Angela Bitting'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
histonet-reque...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Lab Assistants Embedding


As long as you are in a state that does not require licensure for Histo
techs you are fine.  Just be sure that you have training and competency
performed and documented according to CAP.  We have done this
successfully in my lab. Jan, Omaha, NE

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Angela
Bitting
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:01 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
histonet-reque...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Lab Assistants Embedding

Hello Ever-helpful Histofriends,

  I want to train my lab assistants to embed simple tissues like breast
resection specimens, placentas, etc. My manager feels that this will
break some kind of regulations and won't sit well with our doctoral
staff. I feel pretty confident that other Labs are doing this and I'm
ready to take up the torch, but I need some data from other hospitals.

Are any of you utilizing your non-HT staff to do these tasks and what
hoops did you have to jump through to get approval from the Doctoral
staff? In addition, how does CAP look at this?

Thanks for your help, as always,
Angie



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Geisinger Medical Center
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RE: [Histonet] Looking for a product

[O'Donnell, Bill]

We get ours from Newcomer, but I have seen them in other catalogs - Bill


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kaye
Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:20 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Looking for a product

Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a product call mini fan pads.  They are a pad that
will neutralize formalin.  I can't remember who sells them.  Any help
would be appreciated.  Last time I saw them they came like a roll of
paper towels.

 

Thanks in advance,

Kaye Ryan

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RE: [Histonet] Stupid, stupid static!!

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I have used the product linked below (of course mine was purchased at a
vinyl record store for neutralizing static on turn-tables. It cost a
whopping $15.00 at the time. Maybe some folks can still get them there?

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/ProductDetail.do?D7=0N5=SEARCH_CONC
AT_PNO%7CBRAND_KEYN4=Z108812%7CALDRICHN25=0QS=ONF=SPEC

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Hawkins,
Hal K.
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:43 AM
To: Emily Sours; gerv...@aol.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Stupid, stupid static!!


There are devices used in cryo-ultramicrotomy that might help.  I have
no experience myself.  Also, I found this interesting article via
Google.

http://www.diatome.ch/en/products/staticlineii.asp

http://jhc.sagepub.com/content/37/7/1157.full.pdf


From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Sours
[talulahg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:24 PM
To: gerv...@aol.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Stupid, stupid static!!

You know, all of it sounds so easy...unless you're cryosectioning!!
Does putting a humidifier outside help with static in a cryostat?
Because the static is driving me nuts.  Why aren't there teams of people
working on this issue? It keeps coming up, yet there is no one good
answer, Calling all engineers!!

Emily


Writer Richard Suflet recommended drinking large doses of strong vinegar
with fleas to cure the illnesses that resulted from swallowing the
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:39 PM, gerv...@aol.com wrote:

 wipe the microtome and knife holder with a Bounce laundry softener
sheet.
 It works for us.


 In a message dated 1/5/2011 3:38:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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 This has SO  many possible responses but I'll not go there.  Someone 
 might  videotape it and leak it to the  press...

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RE: [Histonet] Stupid, stupid static!!

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Follow-up. The zero-stat gun seems to be around $150.00 most everywher.
But it does work and will last for years.

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Hawkins,
Hal K.
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:43 AM
To: Emily Sours; gerv...@aol.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Stupid, stupid static!!


There are devices used in cryo-ultramicrotomy that might help.  I have
no experience myself.  Also, I found this interesting article via
Google.

http://www.diatome.ch/en/products/staticlineii.asp

http://jhc.sagepub.com/content/37/7/1157.full.pdf


From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Sours
[talulahg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:24 PM
To: gerv...@aol.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Stupid, stupid static!!

You know, all of it sounds so easy...unless you're cryosectioning!!
Does putting a humidifier outside help with static in a cryostat?
Because the static is driving me nuts.  Why aren't there teams of people
working on this issue? It keeps coming up, yet there is no one good
answer, Calling all engineers!!

Emily


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On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:39 PM, gerv...@aol.com wrote:

 wipe the microtome and knife holder with a Bounce laundry softener
sheet.
 It works for us.


 In a message dated 1/5/2011 3:38:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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 This has SO  many possible responses but I'll not go there.  Someone 
 might  videotape it and leak it to the  press...

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[Histonet] Masson's Trichrome

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Greetings,
 
We are wanting to switch to a Masson's Trichrome method in our lab. Is
anyone aware of a good source for a commercially prepared staining kit?
 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
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RE: [Histonet] Manual Coverslipping Safety Issues

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Eric,

I agree with Liz. There are several environmental controls that could be
put in place to help with expose to xylene. Many of   these controls
would cost far less than a coverslipper - so mention the health, but put
your eggs in the productivity/cost-saving basket. - 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Liz
Chlipala
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:39 AM
To: Gagnon, Eric; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Manual Coverslipping Safety Issues

This was back in the late 80's early 90's but I put together a proposal
for a coverslipper at the institution that I worked at.  I combined,
increase in workload statistics, the time it took for the techs to
coverslip verses the time it took for an automated coverslipper,
improved efficiency and overall quality, and then I also added exposure
to xylene into the mix and it worked.

I do not think that you could do it on safety alone - unless you have
data that supports over exposure to xylene fumes.  I think you will need
to add how it would improve efficiency and overall quality too.

Good Luck

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC Manager Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592 Boulder, Colorado 80308 office (303) 682-3949 fax (303)
682-9060 www.premierlab.com
 
 
Ship to Address:
1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, Colorado 80504

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Gagnon,
Eric
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:24 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Manual Coverslipping Safety Issues

Has anyone successfully lobbied their institution for an automated
coverslipper for safety reasons?
 
Still coverslipping manually-stained IHC, neuro autopsy and special
stains, sometimes hundreds per day. There has to be a better way.  Under
budget constraints. That's why I'm wondering if anyone has used concerns
about histology staff safety, specifically techs under direct exposure
to toluene/xylene, to enable purchase of an automated/robot
coverslipper.
 
I'd be interested in anyone's experience with this approach,
successfully or unsuccessfully.
 
Eric Gagnon MLT
Histology Laboratory
Kingston General Hospital
Kingston, Ontario, Canada


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RE: [Histonet] Cryostat Question Please

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Very consistant, easy to use. 

2 drawbacks  

1. We got the decontamination add-on trying to automate the CAP
requirement, but now it seems Thermo says it is not an adequate process.
I believe they are doing more intense studies, but for the time being, I
have to decontaminate it by hand. 

2. OCT and tissue scraps build up under collection device and cause the
mechanism to clunk unless buildup is removed. 

These two things add a good chunk of time to my day.

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 




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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula
Lucas
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:29 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Cryostat Question Please

Hello all
 
Has anyone used a Richard-Allan/Thermo-Fisher HM550 MP cryostat?  If so,
what is your opinion/pros and cons?
 
Thanks so much in advance,
Paula
Lab Manager
BP Medical Group
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RE: [Histonet] room temp monitoring

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Temps MIGHT be different. Do they have doors? What's behind the wall
(poorly insulated, hot water pipes) All of that being said, the point
might be are they within a range? Most likely they are, especially since
the lab establishes the range. 5 degrees Celcius on either side of 25
should keep everything in nice order. I do not monitor cabinets, but
ambient room temp because my range is wide enough to handle a reasonable
flux in temp.

Hope this helps more than confuses - Bill

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sebree
Linda A
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Carol Bryant; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] room temp monitoring 

Wouldn't all your cabinets be the same temperature as that of the room
the cabinets are in?  We just monitor the general ambient temperature
because some of our reagents state that storage is at room temperature. 


Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital  Clinics IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Carol
Bryant
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:37 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] room temp monitoring 

ANP. 21390 Reagent Storage
All reagents are stored as recommended by the manufacturer.
The evidence of compliance now states you must show records such as
refrigerator, freezer and room temperature monitoring as applicable.

We keep records of the refrigerator temps used to store our IHC but we
have reagents used for cytology and histology in various cabinets in our
laboratory.  Someone suggested this new reg. means we must use
thermometers to keep logs of the room temp in each cabinet where
reagents are stored.  We have about 6 cabinets with room temp. reagents.

How do you interpret this reference to room temperature monitoring?

Thank you in advance for your response.

Carol Bryant, CT (ASCP)
Cytology/Histology Manager
Pathology Services
Lexington Clinic
Phone (859) 258-4082
Fax (859) 258-4081
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[Histonet] Histo data needed

[O'Donnell, Bill]

A big thank you to everyone who responded to my post. All of the
responses were helpful! 
 
 - Bill
 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
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RE: [Histonet] IHC FILD

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I did not receive a pay increas. Personal gratification and a sense of
accomplishment. It was not a walk in the park by any stretch of the
imagination. I learned a great deal from taking it. - Bill

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Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC FILD

I have never received any additional pay for any of my certifications.
It is something I did for myself.

Beatrice Sullivan, HT(A.S.C.P.) HTL , AAS, CLSP(N.C.A.) AP Supervisor
Shore Memorial Hospital 609-653-3590


 

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Can anyone tell me if once you have taken the IHC certification test and
passed dose the administration consider that a specialty field and give
you a pay increase? Or is it just for a persons own gratification to
take it and pass?

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I echo Joyce's point. W/o all info, I hesitate to jump to conclusions. I was 
had an efficiency expert following me around for a week at the insistance of 
some administrators (it wasn't just me, but the entire lab)These are the types 
of silly questions these experts might ask, wondering if they can save 47 
seconds out of the day.

If anything is happening to our field, it might be the tampering by 
non-technicians in our technical duties in the name of stream-lining or 
keeping their tush's covered for their boss who is keeping her tush covered 
from ad nausium. 

It's a cynical Fridaybut the good news is that my Kindle is being delivered 
today! - Bill

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:07 PM
To: Nails, Felton; 'histot...@imagesbyhopper.com'; 'mohamed abd el razik'; 
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

My 2 cents is that she needed to convince someone this was how it is done! J

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
Saint Joseph's Hospital
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE
Atlanta, GA 30342
678-843-7376 - Phone
678-843-7831 - Fax 

  

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nails, Felton
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 13:03
To: 'histot...@imagesbyhopper.com'; 'mohamed abd el razik'; 
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

As I look through and monitor questions, it is apparent that our field is 
declining. These are very basic questions not about special stains or IHC 
stains but basic histology that should have been taught in histology 101. My 
fear is that as we get older and leave the field, who and what will be left to 
carry the torch. Those of you who ask, don't take offense to my thoughts but 
take action and pick up a book and read. You will improve yourself and the 
field.
Just my thoughts, if I offended you it was not my intent. 

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histot...@imagesbyhopper.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
To: 'mohamed abd el razik'; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc

My first reaction to the what is happening to our field, was WOW.  It seemed 
unkind to me, as if they original poster should not have asked these questions. 
 With further reading of the replies to this post, I am not so sure it was an 
unkind response, but one of potential shock and dismay to the idea that labs  
might not be producing the quality work that most of us employ on a daily basis.

Amy, in answer to your questions, I will echo some of the sentiments that I 
have read here.

1. Facing of blocks.  We use one blade to face blocks and another, new blade 
when we do our actual sectioning.  In my case, I face as many as I can, knowing 
I am going to toss that knife when I am done facing.

2.  Soaking of blocks.  After facing my blocks, I will put them on a cold, 
damp, ice cube tray.  This will achieve two purposes for me, a) to chill the 
block and b) to introduce moisture into the faced tissue.  If I get a block 
that is particularly dry or hard (some calcified tissues for example), I will 
face them, put them face down on my waterbath and allow the hot water to 
penetrate into the tissue for 15-45 seconds, depending on the block.
After cooling on the ice tray, they usually cut like butter for me.
Typically, my blocks are not on the ice cubes for more than 15 minutes.  As I 
cut some, I will rotate the blocks around the ice tray, adding more warm
blocks for cooling.

3.  Freeze spray.  I hardly ever use the freeze spray.  About the only time I 
find that I need it is if I have a particularly fatty tissue and it doesn't 
want to section.

4.  Tissue processor changes.  This is definitely something that is site 
specific. In our case, we do base it on volumes.  If we have a small volume of 
our little biopsies, we might not change the machine weekly, but every two 
weeks.  Generally our large specimen machine is changed weekly.

Your mileage may vary!  :o)

Michelle





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razik
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:38 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Cutting, Processing, etc


i think that histonet is a primary educational group for all levels and any 
expert in our feild have asked these quistions one day befor and we should ask 
freely without any shame . i'm as begainner have learned alot from these little 
quistions. and i asked befor for name of antibodies and its use to be written 
to clear the 

RE: [Histonet] ANP. 23075

[O'Donnell, Bill]

I simply added the requirements for daily, weekly or monthly mainenance,
temp recording, cleaning under the procedure of using each piece of
equipment. 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kathy M.
Gorham
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:51 AM
To: ADESUPO ADESUYI; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] ANP. 23075

I would like this information also please.
Kathy, Gorham, H.T.   


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 Hi,
   Does anyone have a procedure on the CAP ANP. 23075 that they would
like to share? 
   Thanking you all for your usual cooperation.
 
  Banjo Adesuyi, BS, HT (ASCP) HTL, QIHC (ASCP).


 

 
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[Histonet] Silver

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 
I know... I should wear gloves when doing a GMS.I... know... that.
(sorry, I thought this was Facebook for a second) Have a great week! 

- Sir Bill of the Blackened Thumb


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[Histonet] RE: accu-edge low profile microtome blades

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 The oil serves a valuable purpose and shopuld be found on all blades of
high quality. It protects against oxidation and allows the blades to be
easily separated from one another, so the oil has always been there. I
have personally found no advantage to wiping or not wiping the oil from
the slides. My 2cents - Bill

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Sherwood, Margaret 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:27 PM
To: Laurie Colbert; Brandi Higgins; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] accu-edge low profile microtome blades

We use the low-profile microtome blades and love them.  We actually
found Thermo-Fisher's brand of the low-profile to work just as well and
they are less expensive.  We had problems with other manufacturers' low
-profile blades that had the oil on them.  However we have several
sample boxes and I will have the techs wipe the oil off and see if they
work better.  Thanks, Laurie.



From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Laurie
Colbert
Sent: Mon 8/30/2010 4:25 PM
To: Brandi Higgins; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] accu-edge low profile microtome blades



We also use those blades and love them.  We've tried others but always
come back to the Accu-edge.  I have always noticed a film of oil on the
blades.  I usually wipe the edge of the blade with a kimwipe before
using it.
Laurie Colbert

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] accu-edge low profile microtome blades

Hello all,

We use the accu-edge low profile microtome blades (exclusively, as they
work best for us).  We noticed an oil/lubricant of some sort on the
blades in the last box that we opened (we checked one other box and it
has the same, although none previously did, or at least we didn't notice
it).  The oil is giving us problems with our sectioning.  Has anyone
else noticed this, either now or in the past?

Also, does anyone have a suggestions of other blades we should use?

Thanks for your input,
Brandi Higgins, BS, HT(ASCP)
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[Histonet] Dako rep

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Would the Dako rep for Kearney, NE please contact me?

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
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[Histonet] Meditech Interface

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 Has anyone out there interfaced their cassette printer with MediTech?
Sounds like it would be a real (and expensive)pain in the neck, but does
it work the way you wanted it to?

Thanks,
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 


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Allison D
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:35 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Reticulin Stain

Hello to all in histoland.  We are having a problem with our reticulin
stain.  It is not showing a real delination of the reticulin fibers.
They are there but it tends to fade off.We do the brown and hopps
stain.  Any help would be appreciated.

Allison Scott HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
LBJ Hospital
5656 Kelley
Houston, Texas 77026
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[Histonet] Formalin vs alcoholic formalin

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Help! I think I know the answer, but need some rapid clarification. Is
an alcohol-formalin fixative acceptable for use in breast tissue, or
does it need to be an aqueous 10% NBF? 
 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
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[Histonet] RE: Histo Professionals Day

[O'Donnell, Bill]

 Just a quick note. I too served with Tom, and worked as an MLT in
hematology, PM shift. Every test was STAT (and so none were STAT, these
were the days most everything was done with minimal automation. We did
about 150 CBC's and diffs plus UA, platelets and coags with a staff of
2. And I think we are LEAN now!. And so one evening, when a doctor
called for results on a STAT still waiting to be logged in, I asked him
what makes your blankety-blank STAT any more blankity blank STAT than
the others? Presto-chango, the next day I was in histology where the
phone never rang! And day time hours! Loved it, primarily because of the
clowns Tom mentioned and the almost total lack of automation. Stayed in
the field and still enjoy it.


William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 


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Podawiltz, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 10:18 AM
To: Breeden, Sara; histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Histo Professionals Day

I got into Histology while I was in the Navy. I was out of MLT school by
about three maybe four months, when my wife who was also active duty
finally got transferred to the same base as I. There were two openings
for her, Blood Bank and Histology. The Navy did not want to put a Med
Tech in lowly Histology and we did not want her working for the Officer
in charge of Blood Bank. She had previously work for him at another base
where his management style got him removed from the lab. 

So I gave up my position in Hematology and went to Histology, were I met
the biggest group of clowns ever. That was 1981. Certified 1985.  Took
several years off and went into sales. Came back to Histology in 2004
and found that my skills were still there and more important the love
for Histology. 

Tom Podawiltz, HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer LRGHealthcare
603-524-3211 ext: 3220

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Breeden, Sara
[sbree...@nmda.nmsu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 10:21 AM
To: histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Histo Professionals Day

Perhaps what each of us ought to do is write a quick line naming the one
person that got you involved in histology and how they did that.  I'd be
willing to gather them and pass them on to NSH so they could post it at
the Seattle meeting.  If you'd like to do this, send the email to
nmhi...@comcast.net and I'll collect.  Just an idea...



Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

NM Dept. of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

PO Box 4700

Albuquerque, NM  87106

505-841-2576



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[Histonet] Celerus Wave

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Good day,
 
Is anyuone using the Celerus Wave rapid IHC system? Would appriciate any
feedback.
 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
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RE: [Histonet] discarding old dry chemicals with no expiration date

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Here's the reference I use for that problem.

But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no 
longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. Mk 
9:50(ish or so. :)

Happy Friday 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:40 PM
To: 'Rene J Buesa'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] discarding old dry chemicals with no expiration date

I always have a problem determining the expiration date of sodium chloride!

Jim

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:27 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Kelly Boyd
Subject: Re: [Histonet] discarding old dry chemicals with no expiration date

I was going to comment about how important some people seem to feel to find 
something to add to the inspection report even when it is unsubstantiated, 
about how many of those chemicals are extracted from mines where they have 
existed for eons, how the only important thing is to make sure that those 
designated as anhydrous have to be kept that way in order to assure the quality 
of the solutions and that everything else is almost ridiculous, but I better 
don't because I may hurt some feelings!
René J.

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Kelly Boyd kdboydhi...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Kelly Boyd kdboydhi...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] discarding old dry chemicals with no expiration date
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:24 PM


Our lab recently had our CLIA inspection and the surveyor informed me that we 
need to discard any dry chemicals with an opened date of more than 10 years, 
even though none of the dry chemicals have an expiration date. This was not 
written up as a deficiency, but it was suggested we follow up on this for our 
next re-certification.
 I am sure it is best to keep the chemicals current, but is this what all labs 
are doing?


Kelly D. Boyd, BS, HTL (ASCP)
Lab Manager
Harris Histology Services
2025 Eastgate Dr. Ste. F
Greenville, NC 27858
www.harrishisto.com 
 
Tele (252)-830-6866
(800)-284-0672
Cell (252)-943-9527
Fax  (252)-830-0032
 
 
 
 
 



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[Histonet] Special stains and microwave

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Greetings Histonetters,


We have finally come to the point where we need to fish or cut bait in
relation to purchasing a laboratory approved microwave and venting it. 

While I think it would be cool to have one, I'm wondering if the cost
is justified to do a handful of special stains that could be done
(though more slowly) in a laboratory oven like the one we already have.

Anyone with the time or desire to opine, please chime in.

Those who have purchased such a microwave, I'll gladly take suggestions.

Thanks in advance

William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 






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[Histonet] Clear-Rite 3

[O'Donnell, Bill]

Greetings!
 
We have been using Clear-Rite 3 here at our lab, and we are happy with
the product. Our supplier says it will be on back-order for some time
now. Our crack supply folks are looking for another source. I'm taking
another route to find out what products out there are comparable.
 
Are all Xylene Substitutes pretty much the same and there for pretty
much interchangable?
Are there some to stay away from?
 
Any help is appriciated.
 
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC 
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847 
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