Re: [Histonet] Controls

2020-10-15 Thread Cartun, Richard via Histonet
I would recommend waiting at least 2 weeks after the case is signed-out in case 
additional testing needs to be performed, especially if the specimen contains 
cancer.  And, I would always make sure that you leave representative tissue in 
the block meaning don't consume the entire specimen when you cut your control 
sections unless the case has multiple blocks showing the same pathology.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & The Martin M. Berman, MD Immunopathology/Morphologic 
Proteomics Laboratory
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
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Good afternoon!

Could any of you tell me off hand how old patient tissue has to be before you 
can use it as a control? My lab has only been operating since February. We run 
quite a few Alcian Blue PAS stains a week, and my last control is getting 
sparse. I have some beautiful patient tissue that I could use if the time limit 
has been exceeded. I am trying to avoid purchasing controls because we are a 
small GI lab, and that eats into our operating costs. That said, if tissue has 
to be older than the amount of time our lab has been open, does anyone have a 
spare control they could pass on to me please? I would be willing to assist you 
with anything I am able to assist with in the future.

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Re: [Histonet] controls to lengthy off topic

2015-04-21 Thread koellingr
Hello Garrey, 
Curious myself, CAP contact info seems to be greyed out on website unless I 
officially log in and for now my concerns are with the Washington State Science 
and Engineering Fair for K-12 and golf game. 
  
(1) There are at least two phrases in the ANP.21450 which could be parsed out 
similar to the now famous "it depends on what the definition of is is". 
(2) Fortunate, I had micro groups around who could provide me with species 
specific Candida or Aspergillus or species and morphological identifiable gram 
positive or gram negative organisms so when I built the controls with fresh 
human tissue, as has been described several times on Histonet by others, I knew 
exactly what I was looking at. 
(3) It appears there may be tens to hundreds of thousands of "molds" and what 
is growing in orange peels or strawberries or cream cheese or bacteria in slim 
jims would be a total mystery but maybe that is OK. Yet, human pathogen or not? 
rare or common? stains appropriately or not according to what it REALLY is? 
  
I'm not saying the controls are wrong; they might be perfectly fine.  I'm just 
curious if anyone being inspected ever put a stained section of a slim jim on 
scope in front of a Pathologist from the inspecting agency and what was the 
reaction if any. 
  
Ray in Lake Forest Park, WA 
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 3:50:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] (no subject) 

Here is the CAP checklist requirement: 
ANP.21450 
All  histochemical stains are of adequate quality, and daily controls are 
demonstrated on each day of use for the tissue components or organism for which 
they were designed. 

Ray...you should call the CAP and ask for guidance on this. 
My interpretation of this requirement is that it should be OK to use a fungus 
from an orange peel. An orange peel fungus should have the same staining 
characteristics as a candida or aspergillus etc.  Similarly a bacteria is a 
bacteria. If you can produce a control that has both gram positives and 
negatives, it should be OK. But, don't quote me on this.  

Call the CAP for a definitive answer. I am interested in their response. 
Garrey 

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:06 PM, < koelli...@comcast.net > wrote: 


I asked about this in a different vein months ago.  Has anyone shown a 
strawberry or ground meat or slim jim or orange peel as a bacteria/fungus 
control used for diagnostics to an inspector inspecting the lab and was there 
any comment from the inspector either positive or negative. Never heard back 
anything. 
Ray, Lake Forest Park, WA 

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GMS controls 
>From my understanding we can't use non human controls on patients. I could be 
>wrong, but you may want to look into it. 

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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Blazek, Linda
Look at one under the scope!  

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Stedman, Nancy
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 1:30 PM
To: James Watson; 'Jb'; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

Do you mean using Slim Jims right out of the package, as is, for Gram controls? 
 What is in those things - sounds like a food safety issue!


-Nancy Stedman

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

Years ago (70's and 80's) Slim Jims were used as Gram pos & neg controls in all 
the labs at AFIP.

James Watson HT  ASCP
GNF  Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation Scientific 
Technical Leader II, Histology Tel    858-332-4647 Fax   858-812-1915 
jwat...@gnf.org

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Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at the 
gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone done 
this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Stedman, Nancy
Do you mean using Slim Jims right out of the package, as is, for Gram controls? 
 What is in those things - sounds like a food safety issue!


-Nancy Stedman

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

Years ago (70's and 80's) Slim Jims were used as Gram pos & neg controls in all 
the labs at AFIP.

James Watson HT  ASCP
GNF  Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation Scientific 
Technical Leader II, Histology Tel    858-332-4647 Fax   858-812-1915 
jwat...@gnf.org

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Subject: [Histonet] Controls:

Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at the 
gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone done 
this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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Re: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Jim Burchette
So do onions!

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Cooper, Brian  wrote:

> I've used moldy orange peels as a GMS/PAS-F control in the past.  Just
> saved the peels in a plastic bag over the weekend, then processed as
> usual.  They worked beautifully!
>
> Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor
> Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
> Children's Hospital Los Angeles
> 4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
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>
> We have successfully used hamburger meat to make Gram controls.  As far as
> GMS controls go, we ran across a post from someone smearing cream cheese
> onto lung tissue and letting it sit for a couple of days, fixed and
> processed it and were able to demonstrate Aspergillus by GMS.  My fungus
> control stocks are low so I was actually planning to try this with some
> beef lung.  I haven't heard of the Slim Jim method before.
>
> Jeff Robinson, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA.
>
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> Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick)
> at the gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has
> anyone done this and do they work for GMS also?
>
> Thank you,
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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Cooper, Brian
I've used moldy orange peels as a GMS/PAS-F control in the past.  Just saved 
the peels in a plastic bag over the weekend, then processed as usual.  They 
worked beautifully!

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor 
Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Children's Hospital Los Angeles 
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027 
Ph: 323.361.3357 Pager: 213-209-0184
bcoo...@chla.usc.edu 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Robinson
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:21 AM
To: Jb; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

We have successfully used hamburger meat to make Gram controls.  As far as GMS 
controls go, we ran across a post from someone smearing cream cheese onto lung 
tissue and letting it sit for a couple of days, fixed and processed it and were 
able to demonstrate Aspergillus by GMS.  My fungus control stocks are low so I 
was actually planning to try this with some beef lung.  I haven't heard of the 
Slim Jim method before.

Jeff Robinson, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:05 PM
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Subject: [Histonet] Controls:

Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at the 
gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone done 
this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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Re: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Rajan Bhatt
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On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:01 AM, James Watson  wrote:

> Years ago (70's and 80's) Slim Jims were used as Gram pos & neg controls in 
> all the labs at AFIP.
> 
> James Watson HT  ASCP
> GNF  Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation
> Scientific Technical Leader II, Histology
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> Fax   858-812-1915
> jwat...@gnf.org
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> Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at 
> the gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone 
> done this and do they work for GMS also?
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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread James Watson
Years ago (70's and 80's) Slim Jims were used as Gram pos & neg controls in all 
the labs at AFIP.

James Watson HT  ASCP
GNF  Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation
Scientific Technical Leader II, Histology
Tel    858-332-4647
Fax   858-812-1915
jwat...@gnf.org

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jb
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:05 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Controls:

Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at the 
gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone done 
this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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Re: [Histonet] Controls

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Ann Jones
Blech!!!
Makes me want to run out and eat a hotdog!!! Ugh. . .
(Good to know for controls though)

Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
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On 3/5/15, 10:08 AM, "Morken, Timothy"  wrote:

>I agree it sounds bad, But the reality is that all food products have
>loads of dead or low count living bacteria. For example, milk is
>pasteurized to kill them, but they are still in the milk.
>
>
>Tim Morken
>
>
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>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ronda Mire
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:59 AM
>To: Baker, Michael
>Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls
>
>Slim Jim will work as a control for gram stain.  Can you believe people
>eat this crap?
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Baker, Michael 
>>wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like a plant spreading anti-Slim Jim propaganda.  What¹s next?
>>Donut holes?
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Baker, M.D.
>> CCHMC Pathology
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:51 AM, histonet-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:04:52 -0700
>>> From: Jb 
>>> Subject: [Histonet] Controls:
>>> To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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>>> 
>>> Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni
>>>stick) at the gas station can be processed and used as good gram
>>>controls. Has anyone done this and do they work for GMS also?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: [Histonet] Controls

2015-03-05 Thread Morken, Timothy
I agree it sounds bad, But the reality is that all food products have loads of 
dead or low count living bacteria. For example, milk is pasteurized to kill 
them, but they are still in the milk.


Tim Morken


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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Baker, Michael
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls

Slim Jim will work as a control for gram stain.  Can you believe people eat 
this crap?
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Baker, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a plant spreading anti-Slim Jim propaganda.  What’s next?  Donut 
> holes?
> 
> 
> Michael Baker, M.D.
> CCHMC Pathology
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:51 AM, histonet-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu wrote:
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:04:52 -0700
>> From: Jb 
>> Subject: [Histonet] Controls:
>> To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at 
>> the gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone 
>> done this and do they work for GMS also?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Histonet] Controls

2015-03-05 Thread Garreyf
I am in need of both a gram and fungal control and will have to try the slim 
Jim, hamburger and hotdog tricks. Thanks. If they work I will post
A link to pictures.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Ronda Mire  wrote:
> 
> Slim Jim will work as a control for gram stain.  Can you believe people eat 
> this crap?
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Baker, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like a plant spreading anti-Slim Jim propaganda.  What’s next?  Donut 
>> holes?
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Baker, M.D.
>> CCHMC Pathology
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:51 AM, histonet-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:04:52 -0700
>>> From: Jb 
>>> Subject: [Histonet] Controls:
>>> To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at 
>>> the gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone 
>>> done this and do they work for GMS also?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Histonet] Controls

2015-03-05 Thread Ronda Mire
Slim Jim will work as a control for gram stain.  Can you believe people eat 
this crap?
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Baker, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a plant spreading anti-Slim Jim propaganda.  What’s next?  Donut 
> holes?
> 
> 
> Michael Baker, M.D.
> CCHMC Pathology
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:51 AM, histonet-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu wrote:
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:04:52 -0700
>> From: Jb 
>> Subject: [Histonet] Controls:
>> To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at 
>> the gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone 
>> done this and do they work for GMS also?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Susan Foreman
Slim Jims do work for use as Gram Controls

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Frederick
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

There was actually an article written in The Journal of Histotechnology a
few years back on this and it was, I f I recall, using a hot dog to create
the gram control. Might be in the archives on nsh.org.
Bernice

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

We have successfully used hamburger meat to make Gram controls.  As far as
GMS controls go, we ran across a post from someone smearing cream cheese
onto lung tissue and letting it sit for a couple of days, fixed and
processed it and were able to demonstrate Aspergillus by GMS.  My fungus
control stocks are low so I was actually planning to try this with some beef
lung.  I haven't heard of the Slim Jim method before.

Jeff Robinson, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA.

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Subject: [Histonet] Controls:

Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at
the gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone
done this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Bernice Frederick
There was actually an article written in The Journal of Histotechnology a few 
years back on this and it was, I f I recall, using a hot dog to create the gram 
control. Might be in the archives on nsh.org.
Bernice

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Senior Research Tech
Pathology Core Facility
Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center
Northwestern University
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723
b-freder...@northwestern.edu

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Robinson
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:21 AM
To: Jb; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls:

We have successfully used hamburger meat to make Gram controls.  As far as GMS 
controls go, we ran across a post from someone smearing cream cheese onto lung 
tissue and letting it sit for a couple of days, fixed and processed it and were 
able to demonstrate Aspergillus by GMS.  My fungus control stocks are low so I 
was actually planning to try this with some beef lung.  I haven't heard of the 
Slim Jim method before.

Jeff Robinson, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA.

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Subject: [Histonet] Controls:

Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at the 
gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone done 
this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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RE: [Histonet] Controls:

2015-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Robinson
We have successfully used hamburger meat to make Gram controls.  As far as GMS 
controls go, we ran across a post from someone smearing cream cheese onto lung 
tissue and letting it sit for a couple of days, fixed and processed it and were 
able to demonstrate Aspergillus by GMS.  My fungus control stocks are low so I 
was actually planning to try this with some beef lung.  I haven't heard of the 
Slim Jim method before.

Jeff Robinson, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA.

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Subject: [Histonet] Controls:

Off the wall question, I have been told that slim jims (pepperoni stick) at the 
gas station can be processed and used as good gram controls. Has anyone done 
this and do they work for GMS also?

Thank you,

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Re: [Histonet] controls

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Lundgren
Is a candid control one that's taken when the fungus doesn't know you're
sampling it?

Sincerely?

 Jay A Lundgren,
M.S., (HTL) ASCP


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> could spare?  We are very much in need and would appreciate the help and
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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Tom McNemar
Each case gets one positive control per antibody.  If, for example, I run a 
bone marrow bx and aspirate, I use one positive control for both slides.

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To: 'Richard Cartun'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

All of these responses are great. So here's a follow up question.
Do you place a control tissue on EACH slide if you have multiple blocks for a 
case, or just on one of the slides?

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From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org]
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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Rathborne, Toni
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run batch 
controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate biopsies) 
that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology Laboratory as part of a 
part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7 slides, 2 sections on each 
slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4, and 7 with H&E, and then use (if 
needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.  Therefore, it would be very difficult for us 
to place the positive control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive 
a lot of consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides 
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive control 
tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of starting those 
slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main reason we don't pursue 
putting the positive control tissue on the same slide is the fact that it would 
consume an enormous amount of control tissue.

Richard

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Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic 
Pathology Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
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(860) 545-1596 Office
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>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011
>>> 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the control 
tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides available 
which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there will not be 
any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any problems? What 
benefits have you noticed since implementing this process? Are your 
pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Mark Tarango
We do put controls on each slide in a case.  Sometimes it's just one slide
that failed in a run.  A batch control wouldn't tell you which slide failed
if there are no internal controls in the patient tissue.  I personally
wouldn't feel comfortable doing IHC with batch controls.
Mark

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Rathborne, Toni <
trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com> wrote:

> All of these responses are great. So here's a follow up question.
> Do you place a control tissue on EACH slide if you have multiple blocks for
> a case, or just on one of the slides?
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:40 PM
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Rathborne, Toni
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide
>
> We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run batch
> controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate biopsies)
> that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology Laboratory as part of a
> part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7 slides, 2 sections on each
> slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4, and 7 with H&E, and then use (if
> needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.  Therefore, it would be very difficult for
> us to place the positive control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I
> receive a lot of consult cases from other hospitals where they send us
> unstained slides for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place
> the positive control tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in
> terms of starting those slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main
> reason we don't pursue putting the positive control tissue on the same slide
> is the fact that it would consume an enormous amount of control tissue.
>
> Richard
>
> Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
> Director, Histology & Immunopathology
> Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic
> Pathology Hartford Hospital
> 80 Seymour Street
> Hartford, CT  06102
> (860) 545-1596 Office
> (860) 545-2204 Fax
>
>
> >>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011
> >>> 3:27 PM >>>
>
> Hi,
> I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
> control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides
> available which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there
> will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any
> problems? What benefits have you noticed since implementing this process?
> Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
> Thanks,
> Toni
>
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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Settembre, Dana
If I have a cytokeratin AE1/AE3 to run on 5 blocks of the
same patient, I use only 1 positive control slide 
(same slide as patient tissue)
Dana Settembre
University Hospital - UMDNJ
Newark, NJ

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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:19 AM
To: 'Richard Cartun'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

All of these responses are great. So here's a follow up question.
Do you place a control tissue on EACH slide if you have multiple blocks for a 
case, or just on one of the slides?

-Original Message-
From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Rathborne, Toni
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run batch 
controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate biopsies) 
that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology Laboratory as part of a 
part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7 slides, 2 sections on each 
slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4, and 7 with H&E, and then use (if 
needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.  Therefore, it would be very difficult for us 
to place the positive control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive 
a lot of consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides 
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive control 
tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of starting those 
slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main reason we don't pursue 
putting the positive control tissue on the same slide is the fact that it would 
consume an enormous amount of control tissue.

Richard  

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic 
Pathology Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011 
>>> 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the control 
tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides available 
which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there will not be 
any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any problems? What 
benefits have you noticed since implementing this process? Are your 
pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Kuhnla, Melissa
Each slide or else the whole theory of knowing each slide got treated
the same goes out the window. :)

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Rathborne, Toni
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:19 AM
To: 'Richard Cartun'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

All of these responses are great. So here's a follow up question.
Do you place a control tissue on EACH slide if you have multiple blocks
for a case, or just on one of the slides?

-Original Message-
From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Rathborne, Toni
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run
batch controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate
biopsies) that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology
Laboratory as part of a part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7
slides, 2 sections on each slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4,
and 7 with H&E, and then use (if needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.
Therefore, it would be very difficult for us to place the positive
control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive a lot of
consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive
control tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of
starting those slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main
reason we don't pursue putting the positive control tissue on the same
slide is the fact that it would consume an enormous amount of control
tissue.

Richard  

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic
Pathology Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011 
>>> 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen
slides available which have designated areas for each tissue to be
placed so there will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you
encountered any problems? What benefits have you noticed since
implementing this process? Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If
you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Sebree Linda A
Just one. 


Linda A. Sebree
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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:19 AM
To: 'Richard Cartun'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

All of these responses are great. So here's a follow up question.
Do you place a control tissue on EACH slide if you have multiple blocks
for a case, or just on one of the slides?

-Original Message-
From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Rathborne, Toni
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run
batch controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate
biopsies) that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology
Laboratory as part of a part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7
slides, 2 sections on each slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4,
and 7 with H&E, and then use (if needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.
Therefore, it would be very difficult for us to place the positive
control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive a lot of
consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive
control tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of
starting those slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main
reason we don't pursue putting the positive control tissue on the same
slide is the fact that it would consume an enormous amount of control
tissue.

Richard  

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic
Pathology Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011 
>>> 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen
slides available which have designated areas for each tissue to be
placed so there will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you
encountered any problems? What benefits have you noticed since
implementing this process? Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If
you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Tim Higgins
It is the most effective and economical way to run your IHC's.
We have been doing it that way for as long as I have been in histology.

Thanks,

Tim
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Subject: Histonet Digest, Vol 92, Issue 25

Hi,
> I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
> control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen
slides
> available which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so
there
> will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any
> problems? What benefits have you noticed since implementing this process?
> Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
> Thanks,
> Toni


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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-20 Thread Rathborne, Toni
All of these responses are great. So here's a follow up question.
Do you place a control tissue on EACH slide if you have multiple blocks for a 
case, or just on one of the slides?

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From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Rathborne, Toni
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run batch 
controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate biopsies) 
that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology Laboratory as part of a 
part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7 slides, 2 sections on each 
slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4, and 7 with H&E, and then use (if 
needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.  Therefore, it would be very difficult for us 
to place the positive control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive 
a lot of consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides 
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive control 
tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of starting those 
slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main reason we don't pursue 
putting the positive control tissue on the same slide is the fact that it would 
consume an enormous amount of control tissue.

Richard  

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic 
Pathology Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011 
>>> 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the control 
tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides available 
which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there will not be 
any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any problems? What 
benefits have you noticed since implementing this process? Are your 
pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-19 Thread Weems, Joyce
We used to do batch controls too. And we cut unstained slides in a similar 
fashion also. In order to put the control on the already cut slide, one must 
stand on one's head or hang themselves upside down from the rafters, but it can 
be done.. Just put the slide in the water label end first and you have it! Took 
me years to get it going, and took awhile for techs to adjust, but now it's 
very routine. And if you use a derm punch you can get lots of control tissue 
from your blocks without destroying the block. And you save many dollars and 
give the pathologists assurance that the tissue was treated the same.


Joyce Weems 
Pathology Manager 
Saint Joseph's Hospital 
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE 
Atlanta, GA 30342 
678-843-7376 - Phone 
678-843-7831 - Fax 


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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 18:40
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Toni Rathborne
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run batch 
controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate biopsies) 
that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology Laboratory as part of a 
part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7 slides, 2 sections on each 
slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4, and 7 with H&E, and then use (if 
needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.  Therefore, it would be very difficult for us 
to place the positive control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive 
a lot of consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides 
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive control 
tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of starting those 
slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main reason we don't pursue 
putting the positive control tissue on the same slide is the fact that it would 
consume an enormous amount of control tissue.

Richard  

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic 
Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011 
>>> 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the control 
tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides available 
which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there will not be 
any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any problems? What 
benefits have you noticed since implementing this process? Are your 
pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-19 Thread Richard Cartun
We do not put our positive control tissue on the test slide; we run batch 
controls.  Many of the unstained slides (breast, GI, and prostate biopsies) 
that we use for IHC testing are cut in our Histology Laboratory as part of a 
part-type slide protocol.  For example, we cut 7 slides, 2 sections on each 
slide, for breast biopsies and stain #1, 4, and 7 with H&E, and then use (if 
needed) #2, 3, 5, and 6 for IHC.  Therefore, it would be very difficult for us 
to place the positive control tissue on the same slide.  In addition, I receive 
a lot of consult cases from other hospitals where they send us unstained slides 
for testing.  Once again, it would be difficult to place the positive control 
tissue on the same slide and it would slow us down in terms of starting those 
slides once they arrive.  However, I think the main reason we don't pursue 
putting the positive control tissue on the same slide is the fact that it would 
consume an enormous amount of control tissue.

Richard  

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Rathborne, Toni"  7/19/2011 3:27 PM >>>

Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the control 
tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides available 
which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there will not be 
any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any problems? What 
benefits have you noticed since implementing this process? Are your 
pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-19 Thread Setlak, Lisa
We often do the same or use separate slides. We used to use the slides with the 
designated "control" area but had some problems with the reagents getting to 
all areas of the slide.
Lisa

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Hi Toni,

We put the control on the same slide and after it's stained and coverslipped
we draw a line to seperate the control and patient tissue with each side of
the line having either a "C" or "P" written on it.

Mark
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Rathborne, Toni <
trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
> control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides
> available which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there
> will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any
> problems? What benefits have you noticed since implementing this process?
> Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
> Thanks,
> Toni
>
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RE: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-19 Thread Sebree Linda A
Whenever possible we put patient tissue on slides with positive control
tissue on it.  Everyone likes it and then you're assured your control
and patient got the same staining experience.  We used to use the "red
box" control slides but discontinued due to the additional cost. 


Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
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600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596


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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide


Hi,
I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen
slides available which have designated areas for each tissue to be
placed so there will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you
encountered any problems? What benefits have you noticed since
implementing this process? Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If
you're not, why not?
Thanks,
Toni


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Re: [Histonet] Controls with patient specimen on same slide

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Tarango
Hi Toni,

We put the control on the same slide and after it's stained and coverslipped
we draw a line to seperate the control and patient tissue with each side of
the line having either a "C" or "P" written on it.

Mark
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Rathborne, Toni <
trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I'm interested in knowing how many of you are performing ihc with the
> control tissue and the patient tissue on the same slide. I have seen slides
> available which have designated areas for each tissue to be placed so there
> will not be any confusion. If you're doing it, have you encountered any
> problems? What benefits have you noticed since implementing this process?
> Are your pathologists in favor of this?  If you're not, why not?
> Thanks,
> Toni
>
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Re: [Histonet] Controls for IPs

2011-04-08 Thread Richard Cartun
This response is late due to the overwhelming time commitments of NCAA 
Basketball Tournaments.

The only "multi-tissue" control we use is for HER2 protein overexpression.  In 
my opinion, "multi-tissue" controls are completely unnecessary for every-day 
use for the majority of IHC tests that we do.   They are expensive and 
time-consuming to prepare and, as you pointed out, consume valuable tissue.  
"Multi-tissue" controls should be used during primary antibody optimization and 
validation studies; they are not needed for routine testing.

Richard

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Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


>>> "Bauer, Karen L."  3/8/2011 10:16 AM >>>
Hello,
 
It seems we go back and forth between multi-tissue control blocks and
single tissue control blocks when it comes to immunostaining.  
 
In the past we used single blocks and still continue to use some for the
IPs that are rarely used.  Then, switched to creating multi-tissue
blocks for ease of use.  It's so nice to cut control slides ahead of
time and just pull them out and add our patient tissue.  But... we find
that the multi-tissue blocks are using up hard to find tissue.  For
example, we have a melanoma skin in one of the MTBs for the HMB45 and
Melan A stains, but that MTB is used more for the CK7, CK20 and TTF-1
stains.  Basically, that melanoma skin is just being wasted.  
 
I'm considering going back to the single block controls and was
wondering what other labs are doing.  What is the concensus in HistoLand
in regards to IP control blocks/tissues?
 
Thanks much!!
 
Karen
 
Karen L. Bauer HTL/HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Department of Pathology - Luther Hospital
Luther Midelfort - Mayo Health System
bauer.ka...@mayo.edu 
 
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Re: [Histonet] Controls needed!

2009-04-09 Thread Joe Nocito

I second that. Marsha is the loveliest person I know.
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From: "Denise Piontek" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!



Newcomer Supply has been a reliable control source, when necessary the have 
"customized orders".



Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:14:21 -0500
From: jennifer.l.hofec...@vanderbilt.edu
To: dknut...@primecare.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!
CC:

Hi Deanne,
Have you checked with the NSH Control Tissue Bank? The form to request
tissue is online on the NSH web page (www.nsh.org). The bank is run by
the Quality Control committee in conjunction with the IHCRG. It is a
free service to NSH members.
You may contact the committee chair, William DeSalvo at
wdesalvo@hotmail.com with any specific questions.
Have a great week.

Jennifer L. Hofecker HT(ASCP)
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Division of Neuropathology
Nashville, TN
ph 615.343.0083
fax 615.343.7089
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From: Knutson, Deanne [mailto:dknut...@primecare.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:06 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Controls needed!

We are looking for H. Pylori control tissue and also GMS/fungus control
tissue. Is there anyone out there that might have extra to share? We
have
good GRAM control blocks that we would be happy to exchange. Please let
me
know if you can help us out. Thank you!



Deanne Knutson

Anatomic Pathology Supervisor

St. Alexius Medical Center

Bismarck, N. Dak. 58506

701-530-6730

Fax 701-530-6735



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RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!

2009-04-08 Thread Denise Piontek

Newcomer Supply has been a reliable control source, when necessary the have 
"customized orders". 
 
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:14:21 -0500
> From: jennifer.l.hofec...@vanderbilt.edu
> To: dknut...@primecare.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!
> CC: 
> 
> Hi Deanne,
> Have you checked with the NSH Control Tissue Bank? The form to request
> tissue is online on the NSH web page (www.nsh.org). The bank is run by
> the Quality Control committee in conjunction with the IHCRG. It is a
> free service to NSH members.
> You may contact the committee chair, William DeSalvo at
> wdesalvo@hotmail.com with any specific questions.
> Have a great week.
> 
> Jennifer L. Hofecker HT(ASCP)
> Vanderbilt University Medical Center
> Division of Neuropathology
> Nashville, TN 
> ph 615.343.0083
> fax 615.343.7089
> -Original Message-
> From: Knutson, Deanne [mailto:dknut...@primecare.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:06 PM
> To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
> Subject: [Histonet] Controls needed!
> 
> We are looking for H. Pylori control tissue and also GMS/fungus control
> tissue. Is there anyone out there that might have extra to share? We
> have
> good GRAM control blocks that we would be happy to exchange. Please let
> me
> know if you can help us out. Thank you!
> 
> 
> 
> Deanne Knutson
> 
> Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
> 
> St. Alexius Medical Center
> 
> Bismarck, N. Dak. 58506
> 
> 701-530-6730
> 
> Fax 701-530-6735 
> 
> 
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RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!

2009-04-08 Thread Kemlo Rogerson
 
It's just a thought, can't you get the control from your Microbiology
Lab? You just need to make a cell block out of the bacteria that they've
grown; I'm not aware that Hpylori has to go through a human system
before you can demonstrate it.


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Sent: 08 April 2009 13:14
To: Knutson, Deanne; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!

Hi Deanne,
Have you checked with the NSH Control Tissue Bank? The form to request
tissue is online on the NSH web page (www.nsh.org). The bank is run by
the Quality Control committee in conjunction with the IHCRG. It is a
free service to NSH members.
You may contact the committee chair, William DeSalvo at
wdesalvo@hotmail.com with any specific questions.
Have a great week.

Jennifer L. Hofecker HT(ASCP)
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Division of Neuropathology
Nashville, TN
ph 615.343.0083
fax 615.343.7089
-Original Message-
From: Knutson, Deanne [mailto:dknut...@primecare.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:06 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Controls needed!

We are looking for H. Pylori control tissue and also GMS/fungus control
tissue.  Is there anyone out there that might have extra to share?  We
have good GRAM control blocks that we would be happy to exchange.
Please let me know if you can help us out.  Thank you!

 

Deanne Knutson

Anatomic Pathology Supervisor

St. Alexius Medical Center

Bismarck, N. Dak.  58506

701-530-6730

Fax  701-530-6735   



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RE: [Histonet] Controls needed!

2009-04-08 Thread Hofecker, Jennifer L
Hi Deanne,
Have you checked with the NSH Control Tissue Bank? The form to request
tissue is online on the NSH web page (www.nsh.org). The bank is run by
the Quality Control committee in conjunction with the IHCRG. It is a
free service to NSH members.
You may contact the committee chair, William DeSalvo at
wdesalvo@hotmail.com with any specific questions.
Have a great week.

Jennifer L. Hofecker HT(ASCP)
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Division of Neuropathology
Nashville, TN 
ph 615.343.0083
fax 615.343.7089
-Original Message-
From: Knutson, Deanne [mailto:dknut...@primecare.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:06 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Controls needed!

We are looking for H. Pylori control tissue and also GMS/fungus control
tissue.  Is there anyone out there that might have extra to share?  We
have
good GRAM control blocks that we would be happy to exchange.  Please let
me
know if you can help us out.  Thank you!

 

Deanne Knutson

Anatomic Pathology Supervisor

St. Alexius Medical Center

Bismarck, N. Dak.  58506

701-530-6730

Fax  701-530-6735   



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