RE: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-09 Thread Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth)
Shrew mandible, spittle bugs, white fly salivary glands, mosquito ovaries.

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Paula Sicurello 
[pat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 1:43 PM
To: Michael Ann Jones
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Morken, Timothy; Roberta Horner; Douglas 
Gregg
Subject: Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

You asked for it:

squid tentacle tip, frog oocyte, serial sections through a entire zebra
fish embryo, honey bee eyes, harbor seal artery, Andean mummy muscle (flaky
little boogers), probably lots of others that I can't remember off the top
of my head.

Paula

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Michael Ann Jones mjo...@metropath.com
wrote:

 We did a goldfish once, interesting microscopically and difficult for
 peeling (lots of keratin?)
 Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
 Histology Manager
 Metropath
 7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
 Lakewood, CO 80226
 303.634.2511
 mjo...@metropath.com




 On 1/6/15, 12:23 PM, Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu wrote:

 You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever
 had to cut, or were asked to cut?
 
 For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte
 that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick
 sections too face down to it without actually cutting through it.
 
 
 Open the floodgates
 
 Tim Morken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
 Ruegg
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
 To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol
 methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we
 have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including calcified
 bone in GMA.
 
 Cheers,
 Patsy
 
 Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Ruegg IHC Consulting
 40864 E Arkansas Ave
 Bennett, CO 80102
 H 303-644-4538
 C 720-281-5406
 prueg...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
  From: r...@psu.edu
  To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
  CC:
 
  I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.
  They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure
 what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able
 to get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut
 several sections figuring there should be at least one good stinger in
 each block and it worked.
  Roberta Horner
  Penn State University
  Animal Diagnostic Lab
  
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg
  [classic...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
  Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
  there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
  be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
  science fair project on bees.
 
  Douglas Gregg
  Veterianary pathologist
 
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And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-08 Thread Morken, Timothy
You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever had to 
cut, or were asked to cut?

For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte that 
was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick sections too face 
down to it without actually cutting through it.


Open the floodgates

Tim Morken

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol methacrylate 
(gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have done zebra fish 
and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  They 
 wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what to do 
 so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get some good 
 sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections figuring 
 there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure 
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to 
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a 
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Ann Jones
We did a goldfish once, interesting microscopically and difficult for
peeling (lots of keratin?)
Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
Histology Manager
Metropath
7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
Lakewood, CO 80226
303.634.2511
mjo...@metropath.com




On 1/6/15, 12:23 PM, Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu wrote:

You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever
had to cut, or were asked to cut?

For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte
that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick
sections too face down to it without actually cutting through it.


Open the floodgates

Tim Morken

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
Ruegg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol
methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we
have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including calcified
bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.
 They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure
what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able
to get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut
several sections figuring there should be at least one good stinger in
each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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RE: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-08 Thread Patsy Ruegg
we once played an april's fool joke on our Heme Pathologist.  We took the wings 
off a fly and embedded it in plastic (GMA) sectioned and stained it. Grossly It 
looked similar to the bone marrow core biopsies we did.  Heme pathologist are 
notorious for sticking slides under the microscope on high power without 
looking at them grossly.  We said we needed him to consult on this really 
strange bone marrow core because we couldn't figure out what the patient had.  
Most of our patients at the time were patients with leukemia or lymphoma.  Sure 
enough he stuck the slide under high power and probably even under oil 
immersion.  Trying to look at the morphology of individual cells.  He was 
stumped and was going to show it to another colleague, so we had to confess 
that it was a fly and this was a AF joke.  We thought he would have thought we 
were clever and laugh about it but he did not think it was funny.  We never did 
anything like that again.

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 Subject: RE: And other crazy stuff.  RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 15:27:58 -0500
 From: dhew...@hvhs.org
 To: mjo...@metropath.com; timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu; prueg...@hotmail.com; 
 r...@psu.edu; classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 
 I have done a stink bug, spider and a few other creepy crawlers for my
 kids to look at under the scope, they have no idea what they are looking
 at but still love it.
 
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michael
 Ann Jones
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:20 PM
 To: Morken, Timothy; Patsy Ruegg; Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg;
 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
 Subject: Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 We did a goldfish once, interesting microscopically and difficult for
 peeling (lots of keratin?)
 Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
 Histology Manager
 Metropath
 7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
 Lakewood, CO 80226
 303.634.2511
 mjo...@metropath.com
 
 
 
 
 On 1/6/15, 12:23 PM, Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu wrote:
 
 You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever
 had to cut, or were asked to cut?
 
 For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single
 oocyte
 that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick
 sections too face down to it without actually cutting through it.
 
 
 Open the floodgates
 
 Tim Morken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
 Ruegg
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
 To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol
 methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we
 have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including
 calcified
 bone in GMA.
 
 Cheers,
 Patsy
 
 Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Ruegg IHC Consulting
 40864 E Arkansas Ave
 Bennett, CO 80102
 H 303-644-4538
 C 720-281-5406
 prueg...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
  From: r...@psu.edu
  To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
  CC: 
  
  I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years
 ago.
  They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't
 sure
 what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was
 able
 to get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut
 several sections figuring there should be at least one good stinger in
 each block and it worked.
  Roberta Horner
  Penn State University
  Animal Diagnostic Lab
  
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas
 Gregg
  [classic...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
  To: histonet

Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-08 Thread Jennifer MacDonald
Termites for a science fair project.
anchovy from a pizza to pull a joke on a pathologist
chicken bone from dim sum chicken feet, again to pull one over on a 
pathologist.  Not decalcified, embedded in resin.



From:   Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu
To: Patsy Ruegg prueg...@hotmail.com, Roberta Horner r...@psu.edu, 
Douglas Gregg classic...@gmail.com, Histonet@Lists. Edu 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date:   01/08/2015 12:00 PM
Subject:And other crazy stuff.  RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
Sent by:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu



You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever had 
to cut, or were asked to cut?

For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte 
that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick sections 
too face down to it without actually cutting through it.


Open the floodgates

Tim Morken

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [
mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol 
methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we 
have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including calcified 
bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago. 
They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure 
what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to 
get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several 
sections figuring there should be at least one good stinger in each block 
and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure 
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to 
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a 
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-08 Thread Paula Sicurello
You asked for it:

squid tentacle tip, frog oocyte, serial sections through a entire zebra
fish embryo, honey bee eyes, harbor seal artery, Andean mummy muscle (flaky
little boogers), probably lots of others that I can't remember off the top
of my head.

Paula

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Michael Ann Jones mjo...@metropath.com
wrote:

 We did a goldfish once, interesting microscopically and difficult for
 peeling (lots of keratin?)
 Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
 Histology Manager
 Metropath
 7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
 Lakewood, CO 80226
 303.634.2511
 mjo...@metropath.com




 On 1/6/15, 12:23 PM, Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu wrote:

 You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever
 had to cut, or were asked to cut?
 
 For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte
 that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick
 sections too face down to it without actually cutting through it.
 
 
 Open the floodgates
 
 Tim Morken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
 Ruegg
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
 To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol
 methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we
 have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including calcified
 bone in GMA.
 
 Cheers,
 Patsy
 
 Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Ruegg IHC Consulting
 40864 E Arkansas Ave
 Bennett, CO 80102
 H 303-644-4538
 C 720-281-5406
 prueg...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
  From: r...@psu.edu
  To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
  CC:
 
  I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.
  They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure
 what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able
 to get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut
 several sections figuring there should be at least one good stinger in
 each block and it worked.
  Roberta Horner
  Penn State University
  Animal Diagnostic Lab
  
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg
  [classic...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
  Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
  there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
  be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
  science fair project on bees.
 
  Douglas Gregg
  Veterianary pathologist
 
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RE: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-08 Thread Daniel Hewitt
I have done a stink bug, spider and a few other creepy crawlers for my
kids to look at under the scope, they have no idea what they are looking
at but still love it.

Daniel Hewitt
Histology Supervisor, HVS
412-749-7371

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michael
Ann Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:20 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; Patsy Ruegg; Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg;
'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

We did a goldfish once, interesting microscopically and difficult for
peeling (lots of keratin?)
Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
Histology Manager
Metropath
7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
Lakewood, CO 80226
303.634.2511
mjo...@metropath.com




On 1/6/15, 12:23 PM, Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu wrote:

You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever
had to cut, or were asked to cut?

For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single
oocyte
that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick
sections too face down to it without actually cutting through it.


Open the floodgates

Tim Morken

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
Ruegg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol
methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we
have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including
calcified
bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years
ago.
 They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't
sure
what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was
able
to get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut
several sections figuring there should be at least one good stinger in
each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas
Gregg
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
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 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
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Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-07 Thread Michael Ann Jones
You guys are so cool!! Thanks for sharing your stories - I love reading
all of the cool stuff histotechs are doing out in the world!

Michael Ann Jones, HT (ASCP)
Histology Manager
Metropath
7444 W. Alaska Dr. #250
Lakewood, CO 80226
303.634.2511
mjo...@metropath.com





On 1/6/15, 5:38 PM, Caroline Miller mi...@3scan.com wrote:

When I worked in a research core (which was only last week, but I just
changed jobs). I have processed and cut (with varying degrees of success)
fake meat samples for a company. They were mainly made of grains and
mushed veggies. 

The problem was the samples were not consistent and there was no room
(time or money)  for honing the protocol for each of the many samples he
sent me, so he got what I could cut. He always seemed pleased, but I
couldn't see much in the samples. He was very secretive about it all, so
I could never quite understand what they were doing t all for!!!

C

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Roberta Horner r...@psu.edu wrote:
 
 The oddest things I cut were the honey bee and yellow jacket stingers.
I've done plant stamen, reptiles, fish and I believe another insect.  I
usually tell the students that are working on a research project to give
me a sample they don't care about so I can see if I can do what they
want.
 
 But I had oddities that I didn't have to section like during hunting
season a hunter killed a deer and there was a mass on the trachea that
he wanted tested to make sure the deer was okay to eat.  I got the
sample and when I tried to gross it I found a very hard shiny silver
object.  I told the pathologist whose case it was that the mass was from
a bullet did he still want histo done. No.
 
 The other interesting one was the egg shell.
 The conversation went something like this.
 Pathologist:  Can you section this egg shell
 Me: No it's too hard.
 P: Can't you decal it
 M: That's not going to work.
 P: Did you try.
 M: No
 P: Don't you think you should try first.
 M: Okay fine but it is no going to work.
 
 Put a piece of eggshell (made of calcium) into some decal solution
(that removes calcium) and watch the egg shell bubble and disappear.  I
did get to tell the pathologist I told you so
 
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:24 PM
 To: Patsy Ruegg; Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever
had to cut, or were asked to cut?
 
 For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single
oocyte that was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick
sections too face down to it without actually cutting through it.
 
 
 Open the floodgates
 
 Tim Morken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
Ruegg
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
 To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol
methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we
have done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including
calcified bone in GMA.
 
 Cheers,
 Patsy
 
 Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Ruegg IHC Consulting
 40864 E Arkansas Ave
 Bennett, CO 80102
 H 303-644-4538
 C 720-281-5406
 prueg...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years
ago.  They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I
wasn't sure what to do so I processed and handled like everything else.
 I was able to get some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block
and cut several sections figuring there should be at least one good
stinger in each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-07 Thread Roy, Ryan
I agree with Patsy. If you have a access to a plastic histo lab,  that would 
be the best, as you could easily section any part of the Bee's anatomy. 

Ryan Roy HTL (ASCP)
Manchester Veterans Affairs Medical Center
Manchester New Hampshire

Disclosure: The content of this email does not represent the views or opinons 
of the VA



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol methacrylate 
(gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have done zebra fish 
and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  They 
 wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what to do 
 so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get some good 
 sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections figuring 
 there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure 
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to 
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a 
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-06 Thread Patsy Ruegg
for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol methacrylate 
(gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have done zebra fish 
and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  They 
 wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what to do 
 so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get some good 
 sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections figuring 
 there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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Re: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-06 Thread Caroline Miller
When I worked in a research core (which was only last week, but I just changed 
jobs). I have processed and cut (with varying degrees of success) fake meat 
samples for a company. They were mainly made of grains and mushed veggies. 

The problem was the samples were not consistent and there was no room (time or 
money)  for honing the protocol for each of the many samples he sent me, so he 
got what I could cut. He always seemed pleased, but I couldn't see much in the 
samples. He was very secretive about it all, so I could never quite understand 
what they were doing t all for!!!

C

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Roberta Horner r...@psu.edu wrote:
 
 The oddest things I cut were the honey bee and yellow jacket stingers.  I've 
 done plant stamen, reptiles, fish and I believe another insect.  I usually 
 tell the students that are working on a research project to give me a sample 
 they don't care about so I can see if I can do what they want.
 
 But I had oddities that I didn't have to section like during hunting season a 
 hunter killed a deer and there was a mass on the trachea that he wanted 
 tested to make sure the deer was okay to eat.  I got the sample and when I 
 tried to gross it I found a very hard shiny silver object.  I told the 
 pathologist whose case it was that the mass was from a bullet did he still 
 want histo done. No.
 
 The other interesting one was the egg shell.
 The conversation went something like this.
 Pathologist:  Can you section this egg shell
 Me: No it's too hard.
 P: Can't you decal it
 M: That's not going to work.
 P: Did you try.
 M: No
 P: Don't you think you should try first.
 M: Okay fine but it is no going to work.
 
 Put a piece of eggshell (made of calcium) into some decal solution (that 
 removes calcium) and watch the egg shell bubble and disappear.  I did get to 
 tell the pathologist I told you so
 
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:24 PM
 To: Patsy Ruegg; Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever had to 
 cut, or were asked to cut?
 
 For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte that 
 was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick sections too 
 face down to it without actually cutting through it.
 
 
 Open the floodgates
 
 Tim Morken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
 To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol 
 methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have 
 done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in 
 GMA.
 
 Cheers,
 Patsy
 
 Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Ruegg IHC Consulting
 40864 E Arkansas Ave
 Bennett, CO 80102
 H 303-644-4538
 C 720-281-5406
 prueg...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  
 They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what 
 to do so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get 
 some good sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections 
 figuring there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it 
 worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure 
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to 
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a 
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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RE: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-06 Thread Patsy Ruegg
The coolest thing I cut was 600 yo deer bone.  One of our pathologist did 
archeology as a hobby and wanted me to section it, it was petrified as hard as 
a rock.  We tried everything to soften it to no avail.  We ended up cutting 
with a diamond wire lapidary saw without embedding it in anything.  Could make 
sections as thin as 30 microns.  Had a heck of a time trying to get sections to 
adhere to a glass slide and the sections would not take any stain.  We did end 
up looking at it with a fluorescent scope.  We could see rings like a tree of 
bone turn over.  This is how tetracycline labeling of bone first came about.  
Someone way back stuck a piece of dinosaur bone under UV light and saw rings, 
apparently the animals eat moldy grain ( tet is made from mold) and it deposits 
where ever new bone is being laid down, it also happens to fluoresce.  I spent 
25 years in a metabolic bone disease lab, we treated the patient with a course 
of tetracycline then waited for a period of time, I think it was 10-14 days, 
then the patient took another dose of tet and then within a day or 3 we 
biopsied their bone usually from the illiac  crest fixed it in methanol because 
the tetracycline was water soluble then processed it into GMA plastic without 
decal.  Unstained 5 micron sections cut with a tungsten carbide blade were 
reviewed with a fluorescent scope revealing the two labels of tet, since we 
knew the time between doses we could measure the area between the two labels 
and report them out as bone growth in mm per day.  People with severe lack of 
bone turn over would just have one single label meaning they were not making 
much bone.  

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu; prueg...@hotmail.com; classic...@gmail.com; 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: RE: And other crazy stuff.  RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:54:10 +
 
 The oddest things I cut were the honey bee and yellow jacket stingers.  I've 
 done plant stamen, reptiles, fish and I believe another insect.  I usually 
 tell the students that are working on a research project to give me a sample 
 they don't care about so I can see if I can do what they want.
 
 But I had oddities that I didn't have to section like during hunting season a 
 hunter killed a deer and there was a mass on the trachea that he wanted 
 tested to make sure the deer was okay to eat.  I got the sample and when I 
 tried to gross it I found a very hard shiny silver object.  I told the 
 pathologist whose case it was that the mass was from a bullet did he still 
 want histo done. No.
 
 The other interesting one was the egg shell.
 The conversation went something like this.
 Pathologist:  Can you section this egg shell
 Me: No it's too hard.
 P: Can't you decal it
 M: That's not going to work.
 P: Did you try.
 M: No
 P: Don't you think you should try first.
 M: Okay fine but it is no going to work.
 
 Put a piece of eggshell (made of calcium) into some decal solution (that 
 removes calcium) and watch the egg shell bubble and disappear.  I did get to 
 tell the pathologist I told you so
 
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:24 PM
 To: Patsy Ruegg; Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever had to 
 cut, or were asked to cut?
 
 For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte that 
 was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick sections too 
 face down to it without actually cutting through it.
 
 
 Open the floodgates
 
 Tim Morken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
 To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol 
 methacrylate (gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have 
 done zebra fish and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in 
 GMA.
 
 Cheers,
 Patsy
 
 Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Ruegg IHC Consulting
 40864 E Arkansas Ave
 Bennett, CO 80102
 H 303-644-4538
 C 720-281-5406
 prueg...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
  From: r...@psu.edu
  To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
  CC: 
  
  I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  
  They wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't

RE: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-06 Thread Roberta Horner
The oddest things I cut were the honey bee and yellow jacket stingers.  I've 
done plant stamen, reptiles, fish and I believe another insect.  I usually tell 
the students that are working on a research project to give me a sample they 
don't care about so I can see if I can do what they want.

But I had oddities that I didn't have to section like during hunting season a 
hunter killed a deer and there was a mass on the trachea that he wanted tested 
to make sure the deer was okay to eat.  I got the sample and when I tried to 
gross it I found a very hard shiny silver object.  I told the pathologist whose 
case it was that the mass was from a bullet did he still want histo done. No.

The other interesting one was the egg shell.
The conversation went something like this.
Pathologist:  Can you section this egg shell
Me: No it's too hard.
P: Can't you decal it
M: That's not going to work.
P: Did you try.
M: No
P: Don't you think you should try first.
M: Okay fine but it is no going to work.

Put a piece of eggshell (made of calcium) into some decal solution (that 
removes calcium) and watch the egg shell bubble and disappear.  I did get to 
tell the pathologist I told you so

Roberta Horner
Penn State University
Animal Diagnostic Lab

-Original Message-
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:24 PM
To: Patsy Ruegg; Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: And other crazy stuff. RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

You crazy research people...OK, so what is the craziest thing you ever had to 
cut, or were asked to cut?

For me, not too bad, but embedding for EM and sectioning a single oocyte that 
was nearly microscopic. I'll just say it took a LOT of thick sections too face 
down to it without actually cutting through it.


Open the floodgates

Tim Morken

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol methacrylate 
(gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have done zebra fish 
and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC: 
 
 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  They 
 wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what to do 
 so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get some good 
 sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections figuring 
 there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 
 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure 
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to 
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a 
 science fair project on bees.
 
 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist
 
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RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-06 Thread Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth)
I processed honeybees and was successful sectioning them. It takes a bit of 
patience and time. I soaked the bees to soften the outer parts in glycerin 
water and or mollifex. As for processing, I had to make up a schedule and 
infiltration is the key. If it isn't important to see the whole bee you can 
section out the parts you need to see most and then it becomes easy.

I'm slowly working on my notes and someday I'll get them all sorted out.

Andi G

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Patsy Ruegg 
[prueg...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Roberta Horner; Douglas Gregg; Histonet@Lists. Edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

for the whole bee I probably would process and embed it in glycol methacrylate 
(gma) it is much harder and would give better sections, we have done zebra fish 
and several other harder tissues including calcified bone in GMA.

Cheers,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
prueg...@hotmail.com



 From: r...@psu.edu
 To: classic...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:33 +
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees
 CC:

 I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  They 
 wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what to do 
 so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get some good 
 sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections figuring 
 there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it worked.
 Roberta Horner
 Penn State University
 Animal Diagnostic Lab
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Douglas Gregg 
 [classic...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:08 PM
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 Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

 Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
 there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
 be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
 science fair project on bees.

 Douglas Gregg
 Veterianary pathologist

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RE: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

2015-01-03 Thread Roberta Horner
I sectioned and stained honey bee and yellow jacket stingers years ago.  They 
wanted to show the difference between the stingers.  I wasn't sure what to do 
so I processed and handled like everything else.  I was able to get some good 
sections.  I put 6 stingers in each block and cut several sections figuring 
there should be at least one good stinger in each block and it worked.
Roberta Horner
Penn State University
Animal Diagnostic Lab

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Subject: [Histonet] cutting honey bees

Has anyone had experience embedding and cutting honey bees. I am sure
there are some issues with the harder exoskeleton. Would that have to
be dissected away first. I am considering helping a student with a
science fair project on bees.

Douglas Gregg
Veterianary pathologist

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