RE: [Histonet] problem eyes

2009-03-05 Thread Bernice Frederick
We use it for fatty samples (we do lots of breast) and yes, it does work
well.
Bernice


Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Northwestern University
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL 
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Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723


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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:28 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; MargaretPerry; Va Paula Sicurello
Subject: Re: [Histonet] problem eyes

Yes, really with any type of large (and small) sections. The liquid soap
will reduce the surface tension of water (more than heat) allowing the
sections to expand easily. Try it..
René J.

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From: Va Paula Sicurello vapat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Histonet] problem eyes
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu,
MargaretPerry margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu, rjbu...@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:23 PM

Really?  Liquid laundry soap?  Does this help with all wrinkles in large
specimens?


Paula Sicurello
VA Medical Center San Diego
Veterans Medical Research Foundation (VMRF) 
Core Microscope Facility, room B141
3350 La Jolla Village Dr., MC151
San Diego, CA 92161
858-552-8585 x2397


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 From: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Perry, Margaret
margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 9:14 PM
 Add a few drops (4-5) of liquid
 detergent, but not dishwasher detergent (because it will
 dissolve the paraffin).
 rené J.
 
 --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 wrote:
 
 From: Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:04 PM
 
 Please help!  We have been trying to cut whole eyes
 from a pig.  They need to be
 nice enough for a publication.  We are having the
 devil of a time because no
 matter what we do there are wrinkles.  If we turn the
 waterbath up to stretch
 things out the retina detaches.  Do any of you have
 suggestions?  We uses
 Surgipath  EM400 for embedding paraffin and and their
 infiltration medium.  Is
 this to soft? The lowest we can turn our waterbath is 38
 degrees C.
 
 Margaret Perry HT (ASCP)
 IHC Lab Manager Veterinary Science
 Animal Disease Research and Diagnostic Lab
 South Dakota State University
 Box 2175 North Campus Drive
 Brookings SD 57007
 
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Re: [Histonet] problem eyes

2009-03-05 Thread Maxim Peshkov
We also addes 4-5 drops of Tween 20 in waterbath.
Human eye's sections have not any wrinlkes.
Maxim Peshkov,
Russia,
Taganrog.

--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Perry, Margaret
 From: Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:04 PM

 Please help!  We have been trying to cut whole eyes
 from a pig.  They need to be
 nice enough for a publication.  We are having the
 devil of a time because no
 matter what we do there are wrinkles.  If we turn
 the waterbath up to stretch
 things out the retina detaches.  Do any of you have suggestions?  We uses
 Surgipath  EM400 for embedding paraffin and and
 their infiltration medium.  Is
 this to soft? The lowest we can turn our waterbath is 38 degrees C.

 Margaret Perry HT (ASCP)
 IHC Lab Manager Veterinary Science
 Animal Disease Research and Diagnostic Lab
 South Dakota State University
 Box 2175 North Campus Drive
 Brookings SD 57007.


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Re: [Histonet] problem eyes

2009-03-04 Thread Va Paula Sicurello

Really?  Liquid laundry soap?  Does this help with all wrinkles in large 
specimens?


Paula Sicurello
VA Medical Center San Diego
Veterans Medical Research Foundation (VMRF) 
Core Microscope Facility, room B141
3350 La Jolla Village Dr., MC151
San Diego, CA 92161
858-552-8585 x2397


--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, 
 Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 9:14 PM
 Add a few drops (4-5) of liquid
 detergent, but not dishwasher detergent (because it will
 dissolve the paraffin).
 rené J.
 
 --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 wrote:
 
 From: Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:04 PM
 
 Please help!  We have been trying to cut whole eyes
 from a pig.  They need to be
 nice enough for a publication.  We are having the
 devil of a time because no
 matter what we do there are wrinkles.  If we turn the
 waterbath up to stretch
 things out the retina detaches.  Do any of you have
 suggestions?  We uses
 Surgipath  EM400 for embedding paraffin and and their
 infiltration medium.  Is
 this to soft? The lowest we can turn our waterbath is 38
 degrees C.
 
 Margaret Perry HT (ASCP)
 IHC Lab Manager Veterinary Science
 Animal Disease Research and Diagnostic Lab
 South Dakota State University
 Box 2175 North Campus Drive
 Brookings SD 57007
 
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Re: [Histonet] problem eyes

2009-03-04 Thread Rene J Buesa
Yes, really with any type of large (and small) sections. The liquid soap will 
reduce the surface tension of water (more than heat) allowing the sections to 
expand easily. Try it..
René J.

--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Va Paula Sicurello vapat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Va Paula Sicurello vapat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Histonet] problem eyes
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, 
MargaretPerry margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu, rjbu...@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:23 PM

Really?  Liquid laundry soap?  Does this help with all wrinkles in large
specimens?


Paula Sicurello
VA Medical Center San Diego
Veterans Medical Research Foundation (VMRF) 
Core Microscope Facility, room B141
3350 La Jolla Village Dr., MC151
San Diego, CA 92161
858-552-8585 x2397


--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Perry, Margaret
margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 9:14 PM
 Add a few drops (4-5) of liquid
 detergent, but not dishwasher detergent (because it will
 dissolve the paraffin).
 rené J.
 
 --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 wrote:
 
 From: Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] problem eyes
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:04 PM
 
 Please help!  We have been trying to cut whole eyes
 from a pig.  They need to be
 nice enough for a publication.  We are having the
 devil of a time because no
 matter what we do there are wrinkles.  If we turn the
 waterbath up to stretch
 things out the retina detaches.  Do any of you have
 suggestions?  We uses
 Surgipath  EM400 for embedding paraffin and and their
 infiltration medium.  Is
 this to soft? The lowest we can turn our waterbath is 38
 degrees C.
 
 Margaret Perry HT (ASCP)
 IHC Lab Manager Veterinary Science
 Animal Disease Research and Diagnostic Lab
 South Dakota State University
 Box 2175 North Campus Drive
 Brookings SD 57007
 
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RE: [Histonet] problem eyes

2009-03-04 Thread Connolly, Brett M
My suggestion would be to follow the procedure of the old ocular guru
from the AFIP, Peter Emanuale. He taught me how the section human and
rabbit eyes. It involves using 2 water baths, one of which is at room
temp... and you should not use charged/coated slides.

Check our his chapter on ocular histotechnology in the 1992 edition of
the AFIP Lab Methods manual (it has step by step illustrations)

Brett M. Connolly, Ph.D.
Research Fellow, Imaging Research
Merck  Co., Inc.
PO Box 4, WP-44K
West Point, PA 19486
PH 215-652-2501 fax. 215-993-6803
e-mail. brett_conno...@merck.com
   

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Margaret
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:04 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] problem eyes

Please help!  We have been trying to cut whole eyes from a pig.  They
need to be nice enough for a publication.  We are having the devil of a
time because no matter what we do there are wrinkles.  If we turn the
waterbath up to stretch things out the retina detaches.  Do any of you
have suggestions?  We uses Surgipath  EM400 for embedding paraffin and
and their infiltration medium.  Is this to soft? The lowest we can turn
our waterbath is 38 degrees C.

Margaret Perry HT (ASCP)
IHC Lab Manager Veterinary Science
Animal Disease Research and Diagnostic Lab
South Dakota State University
Box 2175 North Campus Drive
Brookings SD 57007

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Re: [Histonet] problem eyes

2009-03-04 Thread Anne van Binsbergen
do a search on the histonet archive
i posted a method quite a few years back
processed and cut eyes (human and piggy) on a daily basis for almost 10
years
go find it - it may help

patience, determination, thicker sections, 2 x pre-float out first on dist
water and then very dilute alcohol to manually tease out the crinkles, then
a gentle float on low ttemp water bath
if its too hot and the sections are too thin they will shatter on the warm
water
plenty of wax support in the block (use a bigger mould when you embed)

i am on vacation and saw this post by chance

unable to reply in too much detail

good luck

Annie (visiting in Africa)

2009/3/4 Perry, Margaret margaret.pe...@sdstate.edu

 Please help!  We have been trying to cut whole eyes from a pig.  They need
 to be nice enough for a publication.  We are having the devil of a time
 because no matter what we do there are wrinkles.  If we turn the waterbath
 up to stretch things out the retina detaches.  Do any of you have
 suggestions?  We uses Surgipath  EM400 for embedding paraffin and and their
 infiltration medium.  Is this to soft? The lowest we can turn our waterbath
 is 38 degrees C.

 Margaret Perry HT (ASCP)
 IHC Lab Manager Veterinary Science
 Animal Disease Research and Diagnostic Lab
 South Dakota State University
 Box 2175 North Campus Drive
 Brookings SD 57007

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