Re: H-Net* Fwd: Saya confuse

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Assalamualaikum,
Confuse sebab pandangan anda di lindungi dari melihat kebenaran, oleh dunia
yang menipu.

Cuba anda fikirkan, atom yang membina seluruh dunia dan tubuh badan anda
adalah sebagian besar vakum (lebih 98% kosong).You call this real 

The only reality is Allah swt, do be confused about that, and nothing else
matters.

All that which is good comes from Allah swt, the erors are mine alone.

Wasallam.

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Date: Monday, 6 March 2000 14:47
Subject: Re: H-Net* Fwd: Saya confuse


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>kaum hawa pun ader nafsu gak ... .. kalu suami tak nak berubat camner .
Puan
>xyz muda lagi ..e 34 beb (garanglah tu). Ikut ahli sosiologi dan sains,
>umur perempuan lingkungan 30 - 39 nafsu lagi hebat dari 20an.



 
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Office place for work or home it self.Re:H-Net* Kisah Benar :Office Romance Yang Tak Menjadi

[jowhar]

omes from Allah swt, the erors are mine alone.

Wasallam.


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Date: Monday, 6 March 2000 5:37
Subject: H-Net* Kisah Benar :Office Romance Yang Tak Menjadi


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>Assalamualaikum
>
>Ini satu cerita dari seorang boss tentang office
>romance..unedited version...
>Kalau rajin sila la bagi komen untuk kebaikan semua...
>
>Wassalam
>
>Adam
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>--XXX wrote:
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>> Assalamualaikum Sdr Adam.
>>
>> Huumm...interesting juga "persoalan" yang u utarakan
>> ni. Seems that u
>> get a lot of these responses eh? Boleh buat
>> part-time marriage
>> counselling lepas ni..he..he..he.
>> Actually, I tak lah pandai sangat nak beri nasihat
>> kepada persoalan
>> yang u dah utarakan tu. But, I would like to share a
>> somewhat similar
>> story to what u've posted. I trust u to keep my
>> identity anonymous.




 
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H-Net* Re: Saya confuse, jabatan agama islam is complacent.

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Assalamualaikum,

I belive you are still confused, human sex drive is a variable which can be
controled by the will of the person.If the person in question say he cannot
control his sex drive, then there was sanctioned in Islam to overcome this.

1) to get married if one can afford it.
2)Fast if one cannot afford it.

Islam is simple is it not.But you will need the will power and firm belive
that Allah swt is with you to achive this.
The world is a temporary place, you get 60 to 70 years on average to
something here.What you do in this 60-70 years will determine your wellbeing
in akhirat.So to abstain from sex is nothing so great to achive a good
afterlife.

In regards to Malaysian moslem morals being corupted, I blame in total the
regional Islamic bodies,the jabatan agama islam of the state.If the had
played thier part in a more prudent and active way most of this problems
cannot surface.

There are still alot of vice dens in operation, which provide prostitutes
some even have prostitutes outside thier premises, luring the customers
openly.Why because even if somebody reports it no action will be taken.Since
the Jabatan agama islam is complacent in playing it's role.

For example if the State Relious office were to Institute jail term for
those who do not pray Jumaat, do you think we would have malaysian moslem
raoming freely in the street during the Jumaat prayers ?

I belive the mosque will overflow with people every friday.Unfortunately the
state Islamic bodies have nobody proper to go ahead and put things right.

The good comes from Allah swt, the erors are mine.

wasalam.
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From: Wan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: jowhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, 6 March 2000 18:31
Subject: Saya confuse


>W'salam.
>
>Kalau nak berbincang berkenaan bab Puan xyz memang panjang. Di sini saya
>jelaskan pendapat saya dan mungkin ada logiknya dengan  masalah moral di
>negara kita amnya dan wanita khasnya. En/Pn Jowhar kena faham naluri dan
>fitrah manusia. Ini bukan nak fikirkan masalah dunia tetapi fitrah manusia
>itu sendiri. Lebih-lebih lagi dalam umur awal 30an.
>
>Bukan saya nak meruntuhkan rumahtangga orang, hakikatnya gejala moral yang
>berlaku di Malaysia khususnya orang Melayu bertambah tenat. Pengalaman
hidup
>saya sebagai wargakota banyak mengajar dan memberi keinsafan saya betapa
>indahnya kasih-sayang antara suami isteri. Kasih-sayang bukan setakat harta
>benda yang melimpah ruah akan tetapi itulah fitrah manusia tak lari dari
>nafkah batin. Jika tidak mengapa berlaku kerosakan moral, penzinaan antara
>suami org dengan isteri org, khalwat dengan suami org atau teruna, dan
>macam-macam lagi  . Memang tak dinafikan iman dan pegangan agama
menjadi
>masalah, sampai bila mereka nak berpuasa. Islam itu cukup indah untuk
>ditafsirkan. Saya pernah membaca kisah wanita Arab di Afrika Utara, di mana
>cara berkhatan yang diamalkan begitu menzalimi pada kaum hawa sehingga
>hampir hilang nafsu dan kemahuan sexnya. ( harap netters faham ayat saya ).
>
>Banyak lagi faktor jika hendak di huraikan,... tak payahlah hendak ambil
>contoh atom yang dibawa oleh jowhar. Terimalah hakikat hidup ini, lainlah
>jika mereka dah lewat usia atau 40an keatas.
>
>Pesanan saya pada Puan xyz, puan perlu fikirkan masak-masak dan jgn ianya
>boleh membawa kepada penzinaan dan sebagainya. Penzinaan ini luas
maksudnya,
>jika kita sentiasa berhubung dengan bukan mukrim nescaya ianya membawa
>hampir kearah itu. Jika puan sayang kepada suami puan, tinggalkan mamat tu
>dan lupakan dan beritahu suami puan. Elakkan fitnah.
>
>Ingatlah cegah itu lebih baik. Di Malaysia ini pun dah banyak fitnah.
Fitnah
>politik satu hal. Silap-silap kes-kes kat Mahkamah Syariah pun tak leh
pakai
>dan kena transfer kat Mahkamah sivil. Malaysia kan sekular.
>
>
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>Subject: Re: H-Net* Fwd: Saya confuse
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>> Assalamualaikum,
>> Confuse sebab pandangan anda di lindungi dari melihat kebenaran, oleh
>dunia
>> yang menipu.
>

H-Net* asalah Umat Islam hari ini.Kurangnya saintis dan pakar matematik islam.

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Assalamualaikum,
Saya disini ingin menceritakan masalah umat islam yang paling besar pada
hari ini.
Masalah umat islam pada hari ini ialah kita tidak suka pada Ilmu Allah swt.
Walaupun kita memang suka membaca al quran dan mendengar ulasan hadis sahih,
kita telah lupa bahawa Allah swt dan rasul dan para nabinya telah berkali
kali mengajak kita berfikir dan megunakan akal.Telah berkali kali Allah swt
mengigatkan kita bahawa Al Quran ialah sumber ilmu dan panduan hidup yang
lengkap.Berkali kali Allah swt meyuruh manusia supayamendekati dirinya
kepada NYA.Apakan cara kita medekati Allah ialah dengan bersembahyang sunat
siang malam dan bersembahyang wajib sahaja.
Allah swt telah meminta manusia supaya menkaji alam, kerana hanya dengan
cara itu kita akan menyebut "Subahanallah, maha besar Allah, yang menjadikan
bumi dan alam sejagat".Ilmu yang di maksudkan ialah bidang kajian sains dan
matematik.Dizaman kegemilangan Islam, hampir sepuluh kurun yang lalu, orang
orang islam yang benar benar teguh iman dan yang hendak megenali Allah swt
telah mengkaji bintang dan langit, mengkaji bidang matematik, semua ini
kerana rasa cinta dan taqwa mereka kepada Allah swt.Pada masa itu manusia
dari seluruh dunia datang kepada islam kerana inginkan setitik pegetahuan
orang Islam dan pada masa itu kita menjadi world power.
Al Quran seumpama buku manual/atucara peguna sebuah perakam video, yang di
berikan oleh syarikat pegeluar perakam video.Kita perlulah membaca buku
manual itu sebelum kita cuba mengunakan perakam video dan megetahui segala
fungsi perakam video itu jika kita hendak mengunakan perakam video itu
dengan sempurna.
Al Quran diberikan kepada manusia sejagat secara free of charge, supaya
membolehkan manusia mengetahui dengan jelas apa tujuan kita ada muka bumi
ini.
Malangnya kebanyakan kita hanya membaca Al Quran tetapi tidak medalaminya.
Berkali kali Allah swt menyuruh manusia berfikir tentang alam dan kejadian
dan megetahui rahsia rahsia yang masih tersembunyi.Tetapi kita umat islam
yang sepatutnya sebuah Umat yang semestinya mencintai Ilmu sains dan
matematik kini sudah jauh terpesong dan dipedaya oleh syaitan yang direjam
untuk mencintai dunia.
Orang yang berilmu ialah orang yang dicintai oleh Allah swt, bila fikiran
sudah pendek maknanya kita berada didalam kebencian Allah swt.
Walaupun pada masa ini kita berada dalam zaman kemajuan sains dan teknologi
namun sebenarnya kita berada dalam zaman kegelapan ilmu yang amat dashyat.
Ini adalah kerana segala ilmu sains dan teknologi yang diilhamkan oleh
syaitan kepada orang orang bukan islam merupakan ilmu yang memusnahkan.
Contoh saya, teknologi enjin pembakaran dalam yang berada didalam setiap
kenderaan di dunia.Walaupun kenderaan ini memudahkan kita begerak dan pada
mata kasar merupakan satu kemajuan berbanding dengan kereta kuda zaman
lampau.Namun kini telah terbukti pencemaran dari enjin pembakaran dalam ini
sudah memusnahkan alam kita, bumi kita yang diamanahkan oleh Allah swt
kepada manusia untuk ditadbir.
Sebagai kalifah dibumi Allah kita telah mungkir janji kepada Allah swt,
dengan hanya mengunakan kereta kita setiap hari untuk pergi dan balik ke
tempat kerja.
Tetapi saudara muslim ku sekelian bukan maksud saya untuk menyuruh anda
tidak mengunakan kereta.Kita kini seumpama Nabi Muhammad saw yang akur
kepada ketidakadilan perjanjian Hudaibiyah dan meminta jibrail alaihisalam
tidak memusnahkan taif bila beliau di halau dari situ.
Kita akan terus mengunakan kenderaan kita dan segala lagi pencemaran dan
pemusnah hidup lain, kerana sesungguhnya Allah swt maha pemurah lagi maha
megasihani, kini kini telah terperangkap didalam dunia yang penuh dengan
ilmu dan teknologi yang diilhamkan oleh syaitan yang direjam.Terpulanglah
kepada antara kita yang mempunyai sedikit ilmu sains untuk melakukan sesuatu
untuk merubah nasib umat islam yang kini diangap tidak berteknologi kepada
yang berteknologi tinggi.
Insyallah.
Yang baik dari Allah swt yang buruk dari saya sendiri.
jowhar






 
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Re: H-Net* FW: Nokia or Ericsson

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Re: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?

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lture Shock habis!!

Kilang Jepun nie, kalau hang cakap banyak dalam meeting, tak pasal-pasal
nanti hang kena balun dengan Jepun. Tak taulah sama ada sebab Jepun  nie
jenis tak suka orang cakap banyak atau pun sebab Jepun-Jepun tu sendiri tak
reti cakap omputih; so depa tak suka orang cakap banyak. Dan, kalau pun hang
reti cakap Jepun, depa still tak suka hang cakap banyak.

Fesyen di kilang Jepun nie; depa jenis discuss dulu apa-apa yg nak
dibincangkan dlm meeting sebelum masuk bilik meeting; sebelum masuk bilik
meeting tu, bagilah segala pendapat hang kat engineer atau mata-mat Jepun yg
berkenaan; bila dah masuk bilik meeting, tak payah cakap banyak,  cuma tanya
untuk clarify saja; lepas tu angguk aje kepala, "Haik, Haik, Haik!!!"

Kalau hangpa gatal mulut dok tanya yg bukan-bukan, nanti depa chop kita
jenis yg suka melawan, cakap aje lebih, tapi tak reti buat kerja.

So, kalau kerja kilang Jepun, bincanglah apa2 isu sebelum masuk meeting; kat
dlm meeting, jadi tukang angguk lagi bagus!!

KILANG TAIWAN:

Kerja kilang Taiwan; kalau sapa-sapa yang suka cakap banyak; banyak
bertanya bersoal, tak kira di luar atau di dalam bilik meeting, ia dikira
jenis suka cari pasal - mau lawan tokeh!

Kerja kilang Taiwan, kalau nak naik cepat, ada baik jadi tukang angguk
saja!!

KILANG MALAYSIA:

Kerja kilang Malaysia, kalau mau cepat naik, kena selalu bodek boss. Cakap
banyak tak cakap banyak, tengoklah kalau boss itu suka ka tak suka kat
hang...

Lagi satu, janganlah dok mintak bonus lebih-lebih; nanti boss kata:

"Sekarang ekonomi kilang kita merosot, business slow!!"

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Re: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?Apasal?????

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>>>Dari segi traning amerika banyak traning , jepun
>>>tak banyak traning itu pun payak nak bagi. Ini pendapat saya ,
>>>maafkan saya
>>>jika ada orang yang tak setuju.
>>>
>>>aku setuju , jepun memang kedekut, tambah pula local management
>>>people yang lebih sudu dari bubur
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Othman, Noor Zekrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
>>>15-04-2000 07:52:26 AM
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>>>cc:(bcc: KHALILI/MEM/MSMM)
>>>Subject:  RE: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?
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>>>Assamualaikum,
>>>
>>>pada pendapat saya kerja kilang jepun atau amerika ni ada banyak
>>>bezanya .
>>>Kilang amerika pakai system banyak cakap sikit buat kerja , jepun
>>>pulak
>>>cakap sikit kerja mau banyak . yang jepun tau kalau bagi kerja tu
>>>pandai-pandai le buat dia tau mau tau macam mana kita buat tapi
>>>dia mau
>>>resultnya ...o.k. saya dah kerja hampir 10 tahun 4 1/2 kilang
>>>jepun dekat 5
>>>tahun kilang amerika   . Dari segi traning amerika banyak traning
>>>, jepun
>>>tak banyak traning itu pun payak nak bagi. Ini pendapat saya ,
>>>maafkan saya
>>>jika ada orang yang tak setuju.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: jowhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:40 PM
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>>>Assalamualaikum,
>>>
>>>mencelah sikit.
>>>
>>>Kalau lagu tu baik kita kerja kilang Amerika, Modal Air liur dan
>>>pandai
>>>pakai e-mail dah cukup.Tapi kalau nak lagi power biar ada degree
>>>hebat hebat
>>>dari Universiti yang hebat hebat juga, baru senang cari makan
>>>dengan boss
>>>mat saleh.Mat saleh ini kalau tengok orang ada degree power, dia
>>>dah bagi
>>>60% respek, baki 40% atas usaha kita insyallah.
>>>
>>>TAPI kalau ekonomi merosot, siap nak kena cantas, omputih ini
>>>siap pack bag
>>>nak balik kalau ekonomi goncang sikit.
>>>
>>>Jepun ni jenis kesian sikit, dia kalau boleh tak mahu buang buang
>>>orang,
>>>kepercayaan mereka kalau buang orang, nanti orang yang kehilangan
>>>kerja
>>>nanti menyumpah dan akan ranap business mereka.Taiwan,towkey cina
>>>malaysia
>>>dan singapore pun adik beradik dia juga, dia tak mahu nasib buruk
>>>kerana di
>>>sumpah orang.Jepun ini juga jenis orang yang berbudi bahasa,
>>>kalau di tengok
>>>yang rajin, dia akan sponsor kawan itu belajar ke tahap yang lagi
>>>tinggi,
>>>tetapi di jepunlah, oleh itu belajar bahasa jepun.
>>>
>>>
>>>Kilang Malaysia, jangan harap nak kaya kerja kilang Malaysia,
>>>tapi job
>>>security always ada, kalau kilang dia tutup pun dia tolong cari
>>>kerja untuk
>>>kita dengan kawan kawan dia.Itulah kelebiha

Re: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?Apasal?????

[jowhar]

 kawan mencelah (lelaki)
>>dia tak ade kelulusan , jadi dia kata nak kerje kilang pun susah walau pun
>>kilang belambak-lambak.Jadi mencelah tanye kenapa? dia kata bila dia mohon
>>pegawai di situ kata "Kekosongan untuk Operator pengeluaran wanita sahaja"
>>Jadi mencelah nak tanya dia orang ambil pompuan sajesebab senang nak
>>pulas telinga ke?
>>
>>>From: "KHALILI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "Othman, Noor Zekrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Subject: RE: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?
>>>Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:57:53 +0800
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>>>tak banyak traning itu pun payak nak bagi. Ini pendapat saya ,
>>>maafkan saya
>>>jika ada orang yang tak setuju.
>>>
>>>aku setuju , jepun memang kedekut, tambah pula local management
>>>people yang lebih sudu dari bubur
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Othman, Noor Zekrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
>>>15-04-2000 07:52:26 AM
>>>
>>>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>cc:(bcc: KHALILI/MEM/MSMM)
>>>Subject:  RE: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?
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>>>Assamualaikum,
>>>
>>>pada pendapat saya kerja kilang jepun atau amerika ni ada banyak
>>>bezanya .
>>>Kilang amerika pakai system banyak cakap sikit buat kerja , jepun
>>>pulak
>>>cakap sikit kerja mau banyak . yang jepun tau kalau bagi kerja tu
>>>pandai-pandai le buat dia tau mau tau macam mana kita buat tapi
>>>dia mau
>>>resultnya ...o.k. saya dah kerja hampir 10 tahun 4 1/2 kilang
>>>jepun dekat 5
>>>tahun kilang amerika   . Dari segi traning amerika banyak traning
>>>, jepun
>>>tak banyak traning itu pun payak nak bagi. Ini pendapat saya ,
>>>maafkan saya
>>>jika ada orang yang tak setuju.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: jowhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:40 PM
>>>To: Ibrahim Yaakob; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: H-Net* Nak kerja kilang mana?
>>>
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>>>Assalamualaikum,
>>>
>>>mencelah sikit.
>>>
>>>Kalau lagu tu baik kita kerja kilang Amerika, Modal Air liur dan
>>>pandai
>>>pakai e-mail dah cukup.Tapi kalau nak lagi power biar ada degree
>>>hebat hebat
>>>dari Universiti yang hebat hebat juga, baru senang cari makan
>>>dengan boss
>>>mat saleh.Mat saleh ini kalau tengok orang ada degree power, dia
>>>dah bagi
>>>60% respek, baki 40% atas usaha kita insyallah.
>>>
>>>TAPI kalau ekonomi merosot, siap nak kena cantas, omp

Re: H-Net* Ahli Sufi

[jowhar]

ari saya sendiri.

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> Assalamualaikum wbt,
>
> Bagi mereka yg mengatakan bahawa sufi tidak ada dlm zaman Nabi dan para
> sahabat, maka di sini saya
> sertakan sebuah artikel bagi rujukan bersama. Bacalah
> dgn hati terbuka. Bukan niat utk mencari kemenangan
> drp Rahman dan Ibnu Muhajir.
>
> Kepada netters lain, bolehlah baca utk menambahkan
> ilmu pengetahuan.

Bukan kah saya dah kata.  Sufi ni pusing kot mana pun, akhirnya akan cuba
untuk SAMPAI KE TAHAP para Nabi dan Rasul serta PENYATUAN di dalam
KEESAAN ALLAH SWT.

Semua ni TAKDA NAS dalam AL Quran atau SUNNAH.

Paling tinggi pun taraf manusia untuk sampai adalah taraf Saidina Abu
Bakr As SIddiq.

Itupun tiada orang yang boleh sampai.

> 7: Kerohanian Islam Dan Ahli Sufi
>




 
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Re: H-Net* FWD: Kisah Bukak Tudung

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Assalamualaikum,

Megikut perlembagaan Malaysia, setiap orang bebas berugama dan dijamin oleh
kerajaan yang sedia ada.

Jika ada kilang yang memaksa pekerja wanita Islam buka tudung atau
mediskriminasi peluang pekerjaan untuk wanita bertudung maka itu merupakan
satu jenayah yang amat berat.

Untuk jenayah ini Pihak Polis boleh menahan pesalah dengan megunakan akta
I.S.A. (kerana kesalahan ini sama berat dengan ancaman komunis dulu) tanpa
pembicaraan.Ini adalah kerana ini bertentangan dengan perlembagaan Malaysia
secara langsung dan akan menyebabkan rakyat malaysia berdendam sesama
sendiri dan boleh mencetuskan mei 13 sekali lagi.

Buat laporan Polis jika berlaku kesalahan demikian ditempat kerja anda.Kalau
pihak polis tidak ambil tindakan sila berjumpa dengan ketua kampung, imam
dikawasan anda atau wakil rakyat(tak kira parti mana) dikawasan anda.Jabatan
ugama tempatan agak lemah dan tidak boleh berbuat apa apa yang kongkrit
kerana bidang kuasa mereka terhad.

Bukan kita nak menyusahkan orang, kita hanya nak hak kita berugama dengan
bebas seperti yang dijamin perlembagaan.

PS. Kalau dah polis, ketua kampung, tok imam dan wakil rakyat semua tidak
mahu ambil tindakan, senang sahaja tindakan seterusnya, resign dan pindah ke
kawasan lain dimana hak hak asasi kemanusian dihormati.Tak payah nak lanyak
binatang binatang(HR officer, MD dan pegawai kilang lain yang tidak
menghormati ugama orang lain) yang bermuka macam manusia, waste of time dan
hanya menambah masalah sahaja untuk anda.

The advice is free, but it takes something to use it, if still want to kick
some a$$, do as you please since it is your butt which will end in the
police lock up, not mine.

the good is from allah the bad is from me alone
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Re: H-Net* Re: poligami - wanita taknak sedar kah !

[jowhar]

ang
> > umpama air lautan, dicedok
> > > disini tidak akan nampak bekas hilangnya...macam
> > anak-anak...dari seorang ke2,
> > > ke 3, ke4, malah ada yang ke10...adakah kedatangan
> > anak-anak yang terkemudian
> > > itu menyebabkan kasih sayang kepada anak yang
> > petama tadi berkurang...?'
> > >
> > > ternganga depa weh!!!mati hujah...saya cakap
> > lu
> > >
> > > masa tu, bolehlah masok jarum'bolehkan
> > yang...kan...kan...kan'
> > >
> > > pun jika lepas tu, kalian terus diserang dengan
> > piring terbang...maaf le nh,
> > > jangan salahkan sayamemang nasib korang tak
> > baik!!!
> > >
> > > he...he...he
> > >
> > > p/s: orang kat belah utara tu jangan marah noh!!!
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Re: H-Net* Kepastian

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>Assalamualaikum neters semua
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>ingin bertanya bagaimana dengan kedudukan
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>2.  Dr Hassan Ali
>3. dan yang lain2 di kawasan KL
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H-Net* Lim Kit Siang's defeat ,DAP takes a back seat PAS leads the Opposition.

[jowhar]

Tenth General Election a Malay 
Victory
 
It seems with the defeat of Lim Kit Siang,a new 
chapter of Palimentary politics has dawned in Malaysia.For 30 years the ruling 
coalition has been lead by a Moslem Malays while the opposition was lead by a 
Chinese.The Palimentary electoral results of the 10th General election of 
Malaysia has changed this 30 year old formula.Today both the ruling coalition 
and the opposition is lead by Moslem Malays as eitther Datin Seri Wan Azizah or 
Ustadz Fadzhil Noor is expected to lead the opposition .
 
DAP Sec General Lim Kit Siang was not ousted by chinese voters 
but were clearly pull down by the Malay voters in the Kebun Bunga 
constituency.The Malay voters of Penang who have seen DAP as a chinese dominated 
party are not ready to give their votes to DAP.In the case Kebun Bunga it was 
the swing of the Malay votes to the Barisan Nasional which gave them the 
victory.This was cleary evident as the malays of kebun bunga had more to 
celebrate than the chinese after the downfall of Lim Kit Siang was 
announced.Shouts of joy could be heard in the Kampung Melayu and Kampung Pisang 
once the the announcement of victory, while there was not much celebrations in 
the Paya Terubong area.
 
The reasons for the Malays to celebrate the outcome of the 
10th general election are many.One of the main reasons are with both the ruling 
and the opposition partys being headed by Moslem Malays,it is hoped that greater 
understanding and better cooperation would be seen on the parlimentary 
level.
 
With both the ruling coalition and opposition trying to outdo 
each other on who is more islamic,the malays who are mostly moslem will gain the 
most from this palimentary arrangement.
 
Sincere view from me.

 

H-Net* Malaysian Tenth General Election Malay comunity come out victorious.

[jowhar]

Malaysian Tenth General Election A Malay 
Victory. 
With the tenth general elections over,it seem that the biggest 
winners are the the Malay comunity of Malaysia.It is expected that the both the 
Ruling Umno and Oppostion PAS to continue promoting their Parties as the better 
islamic choice.
This may seem out of place especially when the 21 century is 
looming just days ahead,in age where materialism,secularism and economics are 
the facts of life.
 
But it seems that the Malays in the Malay heartland of 
Kelantan,Trengganu.Kedah,Perlis and Seberang Perai have chosen to defy this 
standing order of the day and instead opt for abstract values of religon and 
morality.It is evident that the Malay comunity Nationwide is slowly but steadily 
moving away from the secular concept of economy,progress and material 
issues.Eventhough they still want good economics and progress,but they seem to 
be able to give this up when religon and morality is at stake.
 
In five years time Barisan Nasional and the opposition will be 
facing a different kind of voters then we see today.They young malay adults and 
teenagers of today who are mostly seen  as Islamic fundamenlist will be 
eligible to vote in 2004.PAS had gained in this aspect since it fully used and 
promoted this idea and managed to capture the imagination of this young 
voters.In certain places within the Malay heartland cresent 99% of the members 
of PAS are aged 27 and below,with only the chief being 40 and above.It also 
fashionable to be a PAS member or supporter among teenager and young malay 
adults in the Malay Heartland cresent.Umno has lost serious ground on this 
matter,as today it would not be wrong to say that UMNO is a Chinese based Malay 
party as it has lost too much Malay support but managed to move the Chinese to 
support it.
 
We could expect goodies in the Line of Amanah Saham Nasional 
to be given to the Malay comunity but more on Islamic tune by the Barisan 
Nasional government which is going all out to get more Malays on their 
side.Special preferance in Housing,Loans and Scholarship is also expected to be 
increased for the Moslem Malays while sidelining the non muslim bumiputra's 
which are seen as diehard supporters of Barisan Nasional.
 
Never before in the History of Malaysia has Islam got 
strongger footing within a secular government.Eventhough many view Dato Seri Dr 
Mahathir as a champion of secular Malaysia and will never give into PAS's 
religous fundamentalism,but many also realise younger MP's within UMNO who want 
to be returned to power in years to come will pressure Mahathir to project a 
more Islamic image for his government and gain lost ground to PAS or simply to 
pass the mantle of leadership to Abdullah Badawi who comes from the Moslem 
Religous Ulamak family comparable to PAS leadership.At this point Abdullah 
Badawi is seen as the saviour of UMNO by many within the party.
 
 

H-Net* Lim Kit Siang's defeat ,DAP takes a back seat PAS leads the Opposition.

[jowhar]

It seems with the defeat of Lim Kit Siang,a new 
chapter of Palimentary politics has dawned in Malaysia.For 30 years the ruling 
coalition has been lead by a Moslem Malays while the opposition was lead by a 
Chinese.The Palimentary electoral results of the 10th General election of 
Malaysia has changed this 30 year old formula.Today both the ruling coalition 
and the opposition is lead by Moslem Malays as eitther Datin Seri Wan Azizah or 
Ustadz Fadzhil Noor is expected to lead the opposition .
 
DAP Sec General Lim Kit Siang was not ousted by chinese voters 
but were clearly pull down by the Malay voters in the Kebun Bunga 
constituency.The Malay voters of Penang who have seen DAP as a chinese dominated 
party are not ready to give their votes to DAP.In the case Kebun Bunga it was 
the swing of the Malay votes to the Barisan Nasional which gave them the 
victory.This was cleary evident as the malays of kebun bunga had more to 
celebrate than the chinese after the downfall of Lim Kit Siang was 
announced.Shouts of joy could be heard in the Kampung Melayu and Kampung Pisang 
once the the announcement of victory, while there was not much celebrations in 
the Paya Terubong area.
 
The reasons for the Malays to celebrate the outcome of the 
10th general election are many.One of the main reasons are with both the ruling 
and the opposition partys being headed by Moslem Malays,it is hoped that greater 
understanding and better cooperation would be seen on the parlimentary 
level.
 
With both the ruling coalition and opposition trying to outdo 
each other on who is more islamic,the malays who are mostly moslem will gain the 
most from this palimentary arrangement.
 
Sincere view from me.

 

H-Net* Re: [sangkancil] Which Pit Did Louis Joseph Emerge From ?

[jowhar]

Aids and other diesease are actually control factors in the Human 
geneticpool.(Read on till the end)It seems some are confused of the 
concept of disease in living things.In theNatural world, a species will 
reach equilibrium with it surroundings,aspecies number will remain within a 
limit which the environment cansupport.This control is provided by basicly 
by two factors predatory animalsand food supply.But in human terms 
the variables of predator has become almost nonexistent.There is almost no 
other species that control our population andfood production has made it 
possible for the human species to expand innumbers uncontrolled,although the 
is limited ammount of carbon mass in earthwhich will end this soon and food 
production cannot be increased anymore.In human terms the variable of 
disease and self predation(war,murder andabortion has direct realtionship 
with population,higher population meanshigher ammount of Human killings) has 
contributed a significant ammount ofhuman population control.One cannot see 
diesease as a bad thingcompletely,although a loss of of a loved one is a sad 
thing,one has toaccept that is the order of the living world in its natural 
state.To alterthe natural state of the living world will bring unpredictable 
effefcts toour Biosphere(Planet Earth).Below is an example of human 
population self control in the simplestmanner.We can observe two human 
beings arguing who is more accurate.If thisargument were left unchecked it 
would in time blow up to become one killingthe other.The more stronger and 
intellegent one will be able to remove theweaker one and take over his 
position in society.One sole detrimenatalfactor will be which one has more 
acess to Money.The one who has acess to more money will be able to bully the one 
with less acess to money.Eventhough the one having less acess to monetary funds 
is actually the honest and truthfull one.The one having acess to more 
monetary fund will be able to buy moresofisticted armenrment anf gather more 
followers than truthfull and just one who has less money. It is the order of the 
day in the Human World.Truth and Justice don't count,just how much money you 
have.
 

 
>-Original Message->From: joseph 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Date: 
Thursday, 2 December 1999 2:30>Subject: Re: [sangkancil] Which Pit Did 
Louis Joseph Emerge From ?Gau Tama wrote on 
Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:03 PM:> Your right 
not to reply is respected and not disputed. But if the 
post>was>>> returned unread, again, I have to ask how do you 
know I was, as you say>>> -"hostile and un-gautamic" and 
that my "vitriolic message was unworthy of>>> reply" ? I 
will not hold you to this, however if you have indeed read my>>> 
post and not as you have said, returned it unread.Of 
course, I read it. But I thought it only contained insults, so I sent 
it>>back.> But my "insults" as 
you describe them has been dispensed in the spirit of>>> advising 
you to have less of the ego writing on sangkancil; unadulterated>>> 
advice based on our objective impressions of you which you have 
indicated>>> earlier you are willing to 
accept.Well if that was so - and it did not appear to be 
so - I thank you for your>>advise.> No 
offence has been taken and I have no malice towards you, especially 
as>>> malice is not a feature of the enlightened egoless mind. It 
is good that>>as>>> you say, you have no malice intended 
in my direction; but I would urge>you>>> also to have none 
of the same malice when you address your 
other>>listmembers>>> on sangkancil; even if you feel 
that others may have maligned you.LJ 
says:Frankly, gau tama I bear no malice towards anyone. 
Although I am truly>>pissed off with this one guy who keeps bugging me 
about the Alan Yap case.>>Try some empathy and you might appreciate 
how one feels.> A tooth for a tooth; an eye for an 
eye; and very soon we will all be>>blind;>>> so once said 
another enlightened mind. As I have said 
before;>provocations>>> felt most by the ego never cease if 
the ego is in control. To demonstrate>>> that; in using the title 
above for my post; the same you used for JKLim;>>did>>> 
your ego not feel the "vitriol" of my message ? Again, the 
provocations>>can>>> end with 
you.I automatically detect hostility when anyone brings 
up this Alan yap>>business - do you blame me. I am not sure about 
JKLim, but he must have>>started on this I suppose. Otherwise I am 
generally civil I think.> Sangkancil is our little 
nirvana where aspiring minds meet to be>>> enlightened. This is 
what sets this community apart from the real world>>> outside; a 
samsara where egos clash to establish their heirachy of might.>>> 
There is no social status or caste system of the ego here in 
sangkancil;>>the>>> only requirement is to manifest the 
maturity of mind.You must be a little blind if you truly 
believe that SK is a little>nirvana.>>Come

H-Net* Benarkah memakai menutup aurat kepala untuk wanita hanya satu Bidaah ??????

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Assalamualaikum kepada sidang Muslimat sekian,

Saya amat terkejut bila terbaca e-mail ini dari seorang netter didalam list
sangkancil, intan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.Si intan mendakwa dia seorang
perempuan Islam,dan hukum menutup kepala tidak ada didalam Al Quran.Di telah
menyatakan pekara ini didalam sebuah forum terbuka dimana didalam Al Quran
seorang perempuan Islam hanya perlu menutup dadanya(dalam bahasa Ingeriss
bossom).

Adakah pekara ini benar ???

Saya akan mencuba sedaya upaya saya untuk mencari Nas Nas didalam Al Quran
yang menyuruh kaum wanita Islam supaya menutup Kepala dan rambutnya.Saya
disini juga ingin meminta saudara saudari yang mempunyai pengetahuan tentang
ayat ayat di dalam Al quran yang menuntut Kaum Wanita menutup aurat supaya
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-Original Message-
From: intan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 10 December 1999 15:47
Subject: Re: [sangkancil] Head Cover: Islam from the Bible

>Alex, with all due respect, the way I see it,
>facilitator was commenting on the muslims making it a
>must for their women to wear head cover as compared to
>the christian when the commandment was actually found
>in the Bible instead of the Quran. So in a way, its an
>ironic situation. I dont think he meant to insult the
>christians.
>
>As a muslim woman, I'm always interested in the topic
>of tudung because I found current fatwa on it is not
>based on the quran. Nothing in the Quran mentioned
>about tudung, except muslims are supposed to wear
>moderate dress and the commandment is to cover the
>bosom, not head.
>
>Well, anyway I'm sure many are not interested in this
>but I hope at least muslim women will start reading
>the Quran and discover for themselves how we have been
>conned all these while to being inferior to the men.
>
>For example on the topic of restriction during menses,
>divorce in the hands of men (no, its a process and we
>have equal right to decide, they say women who ask for
>a divorce will not enter paradise (b.s!), polygamy
>(actually allowed to women with orphans, not any anak
>dara they like), wife are suppose to satisfy the
>husband sexual needs even on camels back (what BS,
>quran never say such thing!), women cannot be leaders
>(queen of sheba story, sura 27) etc.
>
>Do read the Quran and discover for yourself girls. And
>rediscover our rights. Theres no excuse not to,
>translations are available easily these days.
>
>intan.




 
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H-Net* No moral duty, only prudence, to pursue one's own self-interest.

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Ethical goods are goods in relation to persons -- goods for persons. 
There are multiple persons, and these are divided generally into 
self and others. Ethical goods thus fall into two 
categories: goods for the self and goods for others. All ethical goods are 
autonomously defined by selves (i.e. people know what they like), except in 
relation to morality, which contains absolute ethical goods. The pursuit of 
goods for the self is self-interest, and in general it is no moral duty, 
only prudence, to pursue one's own self-interest. 
 
But I consider our relations with others as constituting the boundaries of 
moralityTo ourselves, in strict language, we can owe no duties, obligation 
requiring also two parties. Self-love, therefore, is no part of morality. Indeed 
it is exactly its counterpart. It is the sole antagonist of virtue, leading us 
constantly by our propensities to self-gratification in violation of our moral 
duties to others.
 

The fallacies of egoism are: 1) egoistic 
moralism (or moralistic egoism), the sense that it is a moral duty to pursue 
one's own interests and 2) egoistic [moral] aestheticism, the sense that 
no moral duty exists to restrain the actual pursuit of one's own 
interests Egoistic aestheticism eliminates all moral duties to others, leaving 
only prudent or "enlightened" self-interest to govern relations with 
them. An egoistic aestheticism which is not a moral aestheticism would 
simply mean that goods for the self are worthy of pursuit; and that is not a 
moral fallacy. Egoistic moralism and egoistic aestheticism can actually be 
combined, which would make it a duty to pursue self-interest whatever the cost 
to others. The pursuit of goods for the self is self-interest, and in 
general it is no moral duty, only prudence, to pursue one's own self-interest. 

 
 

H-Net* Fw: [sangkancil] Re: Chinese Short-sightedness

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How dare this Singaporean bastard call the Malays in Malaysia as thieves.He
dared make this statement in the sangkancil  forum where he said

 " Malays are not even grateful to their own Malay leaders in
UMNO who stole from the Chinese and gave to the Malays"

By the way why is a singaporaen so inclined to raise racial sentiments
online in Malaysia?

Why has he  been hammering the Chinese against the Malays and the otherway
round eversince.It seems to me that he is instigating racial hatred among
the Malaysian online population.

Who is "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,if anyone has information on him
please post online or reply  directly back.


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Subject: Re: [sangkancil] Re: Chinese Short-sightedness



>LJ says:
>
>Of course not. Malays are not even grateful to their own Malay leaders in
>UMNO who stole from the Chinese and gave to the Malays. How to expect more?
>
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H-Net* Fw: [sangkancil] What do you think of this women

[jowhar]

Assalamulaikum,

Disini saya mengforwardkan satu e-mail dari mailing list Sangkancil,kita si
pengirim bertanya apa pendapat anda, jika kita melihat ada perempuan
Malaysia yang berpakaian semi lucah dan pergi berkerja di bank atau pejabat.

Minta maaf kerana gambar yang dikirim terlalu mendedahkan,kuatkan Iman
sebelum nak tengok,cuma berikan apakah hukuman Allah kepada perempuan yang
berpakaian begitu.

Semoga anak perempuan,isteri dan ibu kita terhindar dari mempunyai keinginan
berpakaian sebegitu.Insyallah.

-Original Message-
From: I am hungry for knowledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, 20 December 1999 1:22
Subject: [sangkancil] What do you think of this women


>Hi there all and may peace be with you,
>
>I have attached a photograph of Miss Laetita Casta(not
>her real name though) a famous Turkish model in the
>international modeling world.
>
>She was modeling a dress.
>
>Now the Question,what do think if you saw a Malaysian
>women wore such a dress to work in a Bank or Office ?
>
>It is a open question,no religon or racial tradition
>please.Lets just get opinions here.
>
>My opinion is she may wear whatever she wants as long
>as it does not affect my rights as a free human being.
>Just don't force me to look at her,period.
>__
>Do You Yahoo!?
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Assalamualaikum,

Dibulan Ramadhan yang mulia, kita masih lagi melakukan dosa.Sepatutnya
diBulan Ramadhan yang merupakan penghulu segala bulan didalam setahun.Kita
sepatutnya mendekat diri dengan Allah swt.

Pada saya soal Parti Politik mana yang disokong sepatutnya tidak timbul,
sebagai seorang islam kita jelas yang mana Haq, yang mana batil.

Jangan disebabkan pegangan parti politik kita terlupa bahawa kita islam dulu
baru melayu,cina,india atau beribu ribu bangsa yang wujud dimuka bumi
ini.Allah swt tidak akan memuliakan seseorang kerana keturunannya,kemuliaan
didalam Islam adalah dari ketinggian takwa seseorang hamba terhadap Allah
swt.Pekara yang sama juga patut dipegang didalam politik,mungkin kita
berlainan parti,tetapi masih saudara Islam.Jangan biarkan pegangan politik
memusnahkan persaudaraan itu.

Jagalah tali persaudaraan Islam ini supaya tidak teputus.Nasihat yang baik
harus diterima,yang buruk pada pandangan agama dan akal fikiran sihat patut
ditolak.

Semoga dibulan yang Ramadhan yang mulia ini kita akan diberikan kekuatan
untuk memperbanyakkan ibadah dan dijauhkan dari maksiat.Gunakan peluang
dibulan Ramadhan untuk meperkukuhkan tali persaudaraan sesama Islam.

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H-Net* Re: [sangkancil] Re: Official Complaint to Panchayat: Was BIBLICAL SUNNISM - AQEDAH

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Assalamualaikum may peace be upon you all,


"Nor does he(Muhammad saw) say aught of his own desire.It is no less than
wahyu sent down to Him.He was taught by the one mighty in Power.(Allah
swt.)"

Sura Najm Al Quran 53:3-5

"For I (Isa ibni Maryam pbuh)  speak not from my self, but the father in
Heaven that hath(has) sent me, he hath given me the commandments, what I
should say, and I should speak.

even as the Father hath saith(said) unto me,so I speak"

Bible John12:49-50.

This two verse one from the Al Quran and another from the Bible, both say
that the words in them came from the GOD, the most loving , the most
compassionate, the most forgiving, the benevolent, the ruler of the Universe
which we see and know and the many Universe which will we will never know
and never see.

My Point is, it is not the way of Islam to belittle the religion and holy
book of the non Muslims.We preach the word of Allah swt by good conduct and
example.There was no need to use harsh words, Our beloved prophet Muhammad
saw had never found the need for it during his dakwah, neither should we
resort to such words and cover it up as preaching Islam.If you were really
preaching the word of Allah S.W.T. than you will find it hard in your heart
to insult another human being or his belief, because your heart will so
filled with love and commpassion, there will no room for evil to lurk in.For
Allah swt is the most campassionate and loving.

Cik Ida Idayu not a single Muslim army has ever landed in Malacca or
Majapahit, but today close to 500,000 million Muslims inhabit South East
Asia Nations.Islam was preached by good conduct and honesty in trade by the
early Gujarat and Arab Muslims traders.I can bet that they did not go around
calling the Non Muslims Malays then as beliving in Rubbish.The Malay Raja of
the day could easily order his army to chop of the head of any such big
mouthed Gujarati or Arab Muslim trader and Malays would not be predominantly
Muslims today.Instead they the Muslims traders choose show to the local
Malays that Allah Loved them and Salvation was in acceppting Islam as they
way of life.This as relevant today as it was 500 years ago.

Lets not tarnish Islam as a religion of angry and wild people, this is the
Month of Ramadhan, we are fasting, kena kawal nafsu habis habisan.If you
really want to uphold Islam then do it by conducting yourselves as required
by Islam.Walk in the footsteps of Rasullah Muhammad S.A.W., for he is the
best example for all mankind in moderation.

For I am also a sinner,but I try to be as good as I can.
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Date: Wednesday, 22 December 1999 21:54
Subject: Re: [sangkancil] Re: Official Complaint to Panchayat: Was BIBLICAL
SUNNISM - AQEDAH



>Injil is not equal to Bible. 2 different things.
>Tata...


 
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H-Net* TM NET atau TM NUT ?

[jowhar]

Assalamualakum
Kebelakangan ini lalauan internet TM-NET makin 
sukar nak dial in, guna password betul pun dia kata bad password, apa tm-net 
server dah gila ke apo ?
 
Lagi baik kalau duduk kat JB ke kelantan ke 
kedah utara, boleh juga guna Singnet atau Siamnet, tapi kalau dah duduk jauh 
dari sempadan Harap Jaring dan TM-net susah, camamano nak maju dalam bidang IT 
dan menjayakan MSC macam ini ?
 
Kalau macam inilah layanan kepada rakyat M'sia, 
sampai bila bila pun Melayu Islam di malaysia akan berdagangan di negeri sendiri 
dan tak boleh buat bisnes antarabangsa.
 

dan tentang permintaan nak turunkan rate capaian internet di Malaysia sila 
tulis surat kepada Menteri kita Datuk Leo Moggie dan buat usulan untuk penurunan 
tarif telefon untuk internet.
Alamatnya
Public Relation Officer Ministry of Energy, Comunication and Multimedia, 1st 
Floor, Jalan Semantan 50668 Kuala Lumpur. 
Tel : (03) 257-5000
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H-Net* DI MANAKAH ALLAH DEWASA INI?

[jowhar]

an mempunyai i'tiqad
>> bahwa Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala berada di atas langit ! Padahal Allah
tidak
>> bertempat tetapi Ia berada di segala tempat !?.
>> Demikianlah kekhawatiran yang dimaksudkan syaithan ke dalam hati
>> ketua-ketua mereka. Yang pada hakekatnya mereka ini telah membodohi Nabi
SAW
>> yang telah mengisyaratkan jari beliau ke arah langit.
>> Perhatikanlah perkataan mereka : "Allah tidak bertempat tetapi Ia berada
di
>> segala tempat !?"   Perhatikanlah ! Adakah akal yang shahih dan fitrah
yang
>> bersih dapat menerima dan mengerti perkataan di atas !?.
>>
>> Mereka mengatakan Allah tidak bertempat karena akan menyerupai dengan
>> mahluk-Nya. Tetapi pada saat yang sama mereka tetapkan bahwa Allah berada
di
>> segala tempat atau di mana-mana tempat !?.   Ya Subhanallah !   Artinya
>> :
>> "Dari Ibnu Abbas (ia berkata) : "
>> Bahwa Rasulullah SAW berkhotbah kepada manusia pada hari Nahr (tgl. 10
>> Zulhijah) -kemudian Ibnu Abbas menyebutkan khotbah Nabi SAW- kemudian
beliau
>> mengangkat kepalanya (ke langit) sambil mengucapkan : Ya Allah bukankah
Aku
>> telah menyampaikan ! Ya Allah bukankah aku telah menyampaikan !. (Riwayat
>> Imam Bukhari Juz 2 hal : 191).   Perhatikan wahai orang yang berakal !
>> Perbuatan Rasulullah SAW mengangkat kepalanya ke langit mengucapkan : Ya
>> Allah !.
>>
>> Rasulullah SAW menyeru kepada Tuhannya Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala yang
>> berada di atas langit yakni di atas 'Arsy di atas sekalian mahluk-Nya.
>> Kemudian perhatikanlah kaum Jahmiyyah yang mengatakan Allah ada di segala
>> tempat, di bawah mahluk, di jalan-jalan, di tempat-tempat yang kotor, dan
di
>> perut-perut hewan !?
>>
>> Maha Suci Allah ! Maha Suci Allah dari apa yang disifatkan oleh kaum
>> Jahmiyyah dan yang sama dengan mereka !.   Artinya
>> :
>> "Dari Aisyah, ia berkata : "Nabi SAW mengangkat kepalanya ke langit.
>> (Riwayat Imam Bukhari 7/122).
>>
>> (BERSAMBUNG.)
>>
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Re: H-Net* Saya orang Islam

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Assalamualaikum,

buenos diaz,

Betul itu Islam dulu baru melayu ke Cina ke India ke indon ke bangla ke
american ke dan beribu ribu suku sakat di dunia ini.

Bukan kahliq kita Allah swt mencipta kita berbangsa bangsa supaya kita
saling kenal megenal dan melihat kebesaran Allah swt. Sesungguhnya wujudnya
beribu ribu suku sakat dari hanya dua manusia Adam dan Hawa itu sendiri
menunjukkan kebesaran Allah.

Kita mungkin lupa kepada Allah swt tetapi DIA tidak pernah lupa kepada kita.
wasalam.
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Date: Friday, 30 June 2000 20:13
Subject: H-Net* Saya orang Islam


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>Saya orang Islam, bukan Melayu, bukan PAS, bukan UMNO.
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>Di zaman Nabi ada munafiq, di zaman ini pun ada munafiq
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>> adakah kamu tahu keturunan kamu pun pengkianat
>> orang melayu selama kini.
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>> jika kamu terlalu taksub mengatakan orang islam lain spt DRM
>> sebagai firaun, siapakah pelindung kamu diakhirat
>> sesungguh ramai laknatullah yang mengikut  syaitan pas
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H-Net* Fw: [ADIL-Net] Anwar dan Mahathir.adakah salah mereka atau sistem kerajaan sendiri.?

[jowhar]

iaitu Perdana Menteri.
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>Jika keadilan sebenar ingin dikecapi kuasa yang ada
>pada perdana menteri harus dikurangkan dengan drsatik
>dan suara rakyat mesti didengar dengan lantang.Rakyat
>mestilah berani mengkritik dengan terbuka tindakan
>kerajaan yang salah tanpa dihalang oleh akta akta
>draconian seperti ISA dan OSA.
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>Kebebasan mestilah datang dengan tanggungjawab, dan
>rakyat harus bersedia memikul akibat dari tindakan
>mereka, seperti membuktikan tuduhan mereka terhadap
>kerajaan
>Kita mengharapkan saudara Anwar Ibrahim dan rakan
>rakan seperjuangan beliau akan dapat merubah sistem
>pentadbiran Negara kepada satu sistem yang demoktarik
>berbanding dengan keadaan sekarang yang draconian dan
>kurang demokratik.
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>Akta pencetakkan dan penyiaran harus dihapuskan
>langsung, peyiaran siaran radio tidak harus disekat
>tetapi sekadar dilesenkan untuk medapat elemen
>tanggungjawab dari syarikat siaran.Kebebasan bersuara
>mestilah dikembalikan kepada rakyat dengan sebenar
>benarnya.Hak rakyat untuk berhimpun mestilah dihormati
>oleh semua dan rakyat yang berhimpun mestilah
>bertaggung jawab dan tidak melakukan jenayah.
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>Tetapi pada masa ini semua hak rakyat negara demokrasi
>sudah tidak lagi hormati dari Perancis tempat bermula
>demokrasi moden, Amerika dan dinegara kita sendiri.
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Re: H-Net* Petrol Power

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H-Net* Apakah jihad yang sebenarnya?

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pose in the purity of the Divine Presence requires an
intense jihad for our soul has its roots sunk deeply into the transient
world which the soul of fallen man mistakes for reality. To overcome the
lethargy, passivity and indifference of the soul, qualities which have
become second nature to man as a result of his forgetting who he is
constitutes likewise a constant jihad. To pull the reigns of the soul from
dissipating itself outwardly as a result of its centrifugal tendencies and
to bring it back to the centre wherein resides Divine Peace and all the
beauty which the soul seeks in vain in the domain of multiplicity is again
an inner jihad. To melt the hardened heart into a flowing stream of love
which would embrace the whole of creation in virtue of the love for God is
to perform the alchemical process of solve et coagula inwardly through a
'work' which is none other than an inner struggle and battle against what
the soul has become in order to transform it into that which it 'is' and has
never ceased to be if only it were to become aware of its own nature.
Finally, to realize that only the Absolute is absolute and that only the
Self can ultimately utter 'I' is to perform the supreme jihad of awakening
the soul from the dream of forgetfulness and enabling it to gain the supreme
principal knowledge for the sake of which it was created. The inner jihad or
warfare seen spiritually and esoterically can be considered therefore as the
key for the understanding of the whole spiritual process, and the path for
the realization of the One which lies at the heart of the Islamic message
seen in its totality. The Islamic path towards perfection can be conceived
in the light of the symbolism of the greater jihad to which the Prophet of
Islam, who founded this path on earth, himself referred.

In the same way that with every breath the principle of life which functions
in us irrespective of our will and as long as it is willed by Him who
created us, exerts itself through jihad to instill life within our whole
body, at every moment in our conscious life we should seek to perform jihad
in not only establishing equilibrium in the world about us but also in
awakening to that Divine Reality which is the very source of our
consciousness. For the spiritual man, every breath is a reminder that he
should continue the inner jihad until he awakens from all dreaming and until
the very rhythm of his heart echoes that primordial sacred Name by which all
things were made and through which all things return to their Origin. The
Prophet said, 'Man is asleep and when he dies he awakens'. Through inner
jihad the spiritual man dies in this life in order to cease all dreaming, in
order to awaken to that Reality which is the origin of all realities, in
order to behold that Beauty of which all earthly beauty is but a pale
reflection, in order to attain that Peace which all men seek but which can
in fact be found only through the inner jihad.






 
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