RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Its released with the SDK, see: http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/Code/ServerPlugins.html The "hlds_apps" mailing list has been used as a discussion place for plugin developers, you should subscribe to it also. Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Holcroft Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > I had a look in the SDK and couldn't see any sign of this. Could we > have an update on it please Alfred? > > Pete. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > > Sent: 17 October 2004 03:49 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like > > functionality? > > > > Nope, its release it tied with the SDK and I don't know the timing > > on > > it. > > > > Original Message > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyme > > Marionette Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:19 AM To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 > > have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > > > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > > > Alfred can you give a ballpark timeline for when this will be > > > availible even in a basic form? There are alot of servers that > > > are screaming for controls to enforce server policy. Thanks. > > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > > > It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent > > > to the list when something is available. > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > Pavol Marko Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:34 AM To: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] Does HL2 > > > have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in > > > metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? > > > Or is it only a myth? > > > > > > Thanks > > > PM > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[4] > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[5] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===References:=== > > > 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 4. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > 5. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
No matter I found it. I didn't realise I had to extract the HL1 single player thingy. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Holcroft > Sent: 01 December 2004 09:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > I had a look in the SDK and couldn't see any sign of this. Could we have > an > update on it please Alfred? > > Pete. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > > Sent: 17 October 2004 03:49 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like > functionality? > > > > Nope, its release it tied with the SDK and I don't know the timing on > > it. > > > > Original Message > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyme > > Marionette Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:19 AM To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have > > built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > > > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > > > Alfred can you give a ballpark timeline for when this will be > > > availible even in a basic form? There are alot of servers that > > > are screaming for controls to enforce server policy. Thanks. > > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > > > It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent to > > > the list when something is available. > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavol > > > Marko > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:34 AM To: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have > > > built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in > > > metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? Or is > > > it only a myth? > > > > > > Thanks > > > PM > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[4] > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[5] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===References:=== > > > 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 4. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > 5. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
I had a look in the SDK and couldn't see any sign of this. Could we have an update on it please Alfred? Pete. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > Sent: 17 October 2004 03:49 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > Nope, its release it tied with the SDK and I don't know the timing on > it. > > Original Message > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyme > Marionette Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:19 AM To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have > built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > > Alfred can you give a ballpark timeline for when this will be > > availible even in a basic form? There are alot of servers that > > are screaming for controls to enforce server policy. Thanks. > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent to > > the list when something is available. > > > > - Alfred > > > > Original Message > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavol > > Marko > > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:34 AM To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have > > built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in > > metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? Or is > > it only a myth? > > > > Thanks > > PM > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[4] > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[5] > > > > > > > > > > ===References:=== > > 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 4. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > 5. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
A quick general question. If you guys can release CS:S without any problems from Vivendi, is it possible for you guys to release the SDK and mod creating tools? It's not exactly half-life 2 content. - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Nope, its release it tied with the SDK and I don't know the timing on it. Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyme Marionette Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > Alfred can you give a ballpark timeline for when this will be > availible even in a basic form? There are alot of servers that > are screaming for controls to enforce server policy. Thanks. > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent to > the list when something is available. > > - Alfred > > Original Message > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavol > Marko > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:34 AM To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have > built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > > Hello, > > I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in > metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? Or is > it only a myth? > > Thanks > PM > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[4] > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[5] > > > > > ===References:=== > 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 4. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > 5. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Alfred can you give a ballpark timeline for when this will be availible even in a basic form? There are alot of servers that are screaming for controls to enforce server policy. Thanks. Alfred Reynolds wrote: It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent to the list when something is available. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavol Marko Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Hello, I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? Or is it only a myth? Thanks PM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[4] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders[5] ===References:=== 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders 5. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Yeah, I see that they are good simulations, but I don't think someone would be dead in the position shown in the second picture in the real world. I don't want to blame Valve or Havok or anything; I just wanted to point out that there is always something to perfectionize.Well ok, except in Ricochet maybe. - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey "botman" Broome" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Pavol Marko wrote: Nothing is perfect: http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=475552 http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=475129 They both look like perfect ragdoll simulations to me. Notice that no joints are hyperextended (bent backwards). Bodies come to rest in realistic positions based on the mass of the components of the system. Not perfect would be joints that bend the wrong way, or joints that aren't bent when gravity should have made extremties fall to a lower surface (i.e. the "legs sticking horizontally out in the air" syndrome when somebody dies on a set of stairs in Half-Life). -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Pavol Marko wrote: Nothing is perfect: http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=475552 http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=475129 They both look like perfect ragdoll simulations to me. Notice that no joints are hyperextended (bent backwards). Bodies come to rest in realistic positions based on the mass of the components of the system. Not perfect would be joints that bend the wrong way, or joints that aren't bent when gravity should have made extremties fall to a lower surface (i.e. the "legs sticking horizontally out in the air" syndrome when somebody dies on a set of stairs in Half-Life). -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Why re-invent the VERY complicated wheel when there is one ready made to drop in which performs everything you need. I think it works amazing. Nothing is perfect: http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=475552 http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=475129 ^^ - Original Message - From: "McCormack, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Havok is the physics engine, Valve used it and incorporated it in their game engine so what :P Why re-invent the VERY complicated wheel when there is one ready made to drop in which performs everything you need. I think it works amazing. The ragdoll effect when a body drops off a ledge or gets thrown by a grenade is more interesting than most of the game imo :P Who else spent 20 minutes shooting the tins on the floor and the bottles on dust, even pushing the barrels down the ramp when CSS was launched. Havok was a great choice and the end result may not have been as good had they coded the parts they used of the havok engine in house. It may have cost a lot of cash to get licensing to incorporate it in the engine and when the source got leaked I am sure there was some difficult times between the 2 companies (havok source apparently was in the leak), but the end result is stunning and well worth it. As for HL2, well I wait with baited breath. I am 26 and feel like Christmas is coming for the first time in ages ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2004 06:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Source IS lovely, but it appears VALVe had help. http://www.havok.com/clients/valve.php Not to say this is bad, only that it isn't 100% innovative. However, this detracts not from the HL2 Silver I bought. :D Cheers, VALVe & hlcoders. ~ --- "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing is for sure Source is incredible. I have played it in CS Source and it is the game engine to get. Steam and all the other stuff ... Well ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
I agree, though the barrels in cs:source annoy me somewhat. on cs_havana I can't push them over without shooting 'em, which now that I think about it might be because they (possibly) have a larger weight then the dust ones... hrm. Still, I wouldn't envy the valve employees if they went through and tried to code a physics engine like Havok from scratch - that'd be a very tedious job :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews McCormack, Chris wrote: Havok is the physics engine, Valve used it and incorporated it in their game engine so what :P Why re-invent the VERY complicated wheel when there is one ready made to drop in which performs everything you need. I think it works amazing. The ragdoll effect when a body drops off a ledge or gets thrown by a grenade is more interesting than most of the game imo :P Who else spent 20 minutes shooting the tins on the floor and the bottles on dust, even pushing the barrels down the ramp when CSS was launched. Havok was a great choice and the end result may not have been as good had they coded the parts they used of the havok engine in house. It may have cost a lot of cash to get licensing to incorporate it in the engine and when the source got leaked I am sure there was some difficult times between the 2 companies (havok source apparently was in the leak), but the end result is stunning and well worth it. As for HL2, well I wait with baited breath. I am 26 and feel like Christmas is coming for the first time in ages ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2004 06:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Source IS lovely, but it appears VALVe had help. http://www.havok.com/clients/valve.php Not to say this is bad, only that it isn't 100% innovative. However, this detracts not from the HL2 Silver I bought. :D Cheers, VALVe & hlcoders. ~ --- "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing is for sure Source is incredible. I have played it in CS Source and it is the game engine to get. Steam and all the other stuff ... Well ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Havok is the physics engine, Valve used it and incorporated it in their game engine so what :P Why re-invent the VERY complicated wheel when there is one ready made to drop in which performs everything you need. I think it works amazing. The ragdoll effect when a body drops off a ledge or gets thrown by a grenade is more interesting than most of the game imo :P Who else spent 20 minutes shooting the tins on the floor and the bottles on dust, even pushing the barrels down the ramp when CSS was launched. Havok was a great choice and the end result may not have been as good had they coded the parts they used of the havok engine in house. It may have cost a lot of cash to get licensing to incorporate it in the engine and when the source got leaked I am sure there was some difficult times between the 2 companies (havok source apparently was in the leak), but the end result is stunning and well worth it. As for HL2, well I wait with baited breath. I am 26 and feel like Christmas is coming for the first time in ages ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2004 06:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Source IS lovely, but it appears VALVe had help. http://www.havok.com/clients/valve.php Not to say this is bad, only that it isn't 100% innovative. However, this detracts not from the HL2 Silver I bought. :D Cheers, VALVe & hlcoders. ~ --- "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing is for sure Source is incredible. > I have played it in CS Source and it is the game engine to get. > Steam and all the other stuff ... Well ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Source IS lovely, but it appears VALVe had help. http://www.havok.com/clients/valve.php Not to say this is bad, only that it isn't 100% innovative. However, this detracts not from the HL2 Silver I bought. :D I disagree. Id Software also have a phisic engine on is latest game (I think) but as a design decision Gameplay dont meet Phisics. Looks like Valve choice whas to USE phisics for innovative and enhanced gameplay AND toys. Even a weapon is a maximized phisic toy ( these nice tractor beam ). Doing this can be dificult and the result can be: - toy-esque that is not bad, but is a not good as posible. - good, with extra amazing and innovative gameplay - bad (broken) Also for some reason Source screenshots not looks like Quake4, Doom3, and all "doom3" alike games. Is use of 3d cards features is innovative and different from other posible styles. Anyway, others coders are not frezze and also code nice stuff, say S.T.A.L.K.E.R. looks like interesting, and even Unreal 2004 engine whas impresive. Its only Valve design fun games, and this is all about :D Of course, I play the fanboy role here. Cheers, VALVe & hlcoders. ~ --- "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing is for sure Source is incredible. I have played it in CS Source and it is the game engine to get. Steam and all the other stuff ... Well ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality?
Source IS lovely, but it appears VALVe had help. http://www.havok.com/clients/valve.php Not to say this is bad, only that it isn't 100% innovative. However, this detracts not from the HL2 Silver I bought. :D Cheers, VALVe & hlcoders. ~ --- "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing is for sure Source is incredible. > I have played it in CS Source and it is the game engine to get. > Steam and all the other stuff ... Well ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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One thing is for sure Source is incredible. I have played it in CS Source and it is the game engine to get. Steam and all the other stuff ... Well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tei Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? :D My faith on Valve is infinite. I feel will code another cool Half-Life alike experience, maybe beeter. I feel will use the phisics for good, and the eyecandy extra features for good. I feel gameplay will be better thanks to the gadgets Valve will code into the game. No like [add another common tittle here] that use eyecandy/braincandy for marketing purposes but gameplay suffer from it. Even Steam is ready for REAL use. We, the players, only need to wait a few more the magic on Valve do it again ;D K. Mike Bradley wrote: > LOL > If he didn't have a time machine Valve would not have enough time to > code and Source would have gone gold in 2045 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCormack, > Chris > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:23 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > Alfred aka Dr.Who > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike > Bradley > Sent: 13 October 2004 15:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > He has a time machine > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see > his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. > > Alfred is hiding something from us... > > ;) > > > - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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:D My faith on Valve is infinite. I feel will code another cool Half-Life alike experience, maybe beeter. I feel will use the phisics for good, and the eyecandy extra features for good. I feel gameplay will be better thanks to the gadgets Valve will code into the game. No like [add another common tittle here] that use eyecandy/braincandy for marketing purposes but gameplay suffer from it. Even Steam is ready for REAL use. We, the players, only need to wait a few more the magic on Valve do it again ;D K. Mike Bradley wrote: LOL If he didn't have a time machine Valve would not have enough time to code and Source would have gone gold in 2045 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCormack, Chris Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Alfred aka Dr.Who -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: 13 October 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? He has a time machine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. Alfred is hiding something from us... ;) - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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LOL If he didn't have a time machine Valve would not have enough time to code and Source would have gone gold in 2045 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCormack, Chris Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Alfred aka Dr.Who -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: 13 October 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? He has a time machine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. Alfred is hiding something from us... ;) - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Alfred aka Dr.Who -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: 13 October 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? He has a time machine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. Alfred is hiding something from us... ;) - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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He has a time machine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. Alfred is hiding something from us... ;) - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Florian Zschocke wrote: Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote: heh, I swapped over to using Mozilla Thunderbird, and emails seem to be arriving out of sequence now too. For instance, I received all the replies to this email before this email itself... :/ I've been using Mozilla Mail for ages now and never had problems other than people not setting their PC clocks correctly or setting the wrong timezone. Mozilla Mail uses the sender timestamp to sort emails, not the receive time. That's not entirely true, Mozilla Mail can sort many ways. Included in these options are the ability to sort on sender timestamp or to sort on order received. Florian John. -- John Beranek To generalise is to be an idiot. http://redux.org.uk/ -- William Blake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Oh that could be the problem, we have daylight savings (so GMT+11 instead of +10) here at the moment so my computer clock must be sending dodgy times :o - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Florian Zschocke wrote: Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote: heh, I swapped over to using Mozilla Thunderbird, and emails seem to be arriving out of sequence now too. For instance, I received all the replies to this email before this email itself... :/ I've been using Mozilla Mail for ages now and never had problems other than people not setting their PC clocks correctly or setting the wrong timezone. Mozilla Mail uses the sender timestamp to sort emails, not the receive time. Florian ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote: heh, I swapped over to using Mozilla Thunderbird, and emails seem to be arriving out of sequence now too. For instance, I received all the replies to this email before this email itself... :/ I've been using Mozilla Mail for ages now and never had problems other than people not setting their PC clocks correctly or setting the wrong timezone. Mozilla Mail uses the sender timestamp to sort emails, not the receive time. Florian ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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heh, I swapped over to using Mozilla Thunderbird, and emails seem to be arriving out of sequence now too. For instance, I received all the replies to this email before this email itself... :/ Happens with other mailing lists too, so I guess it's just downloading them in a weird order o.O - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Jeffrey "botman" Broome wrote: voogru wrote: Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. When you send email, the time on the client's machine is used for the timestamp (not the sending email server's time, the recipient's email server's time or the recipient's machine's time). Notice how I sent this message from the future! ;) -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Andrew Foss wrote: Yes he did, read the date, dec. 25 Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:59 PM mm no you didn't =S maybe its the time from the server? =? Juan Fernando No, I think Juan is correct. It might depend on the email client you are using. Notice that the hlcoders archive post... http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlcoders/2004-October/009269.html ...shows the email dated as "Tue Oct 12 11:56:01 2004" So, it's probably different for different folks. -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Yes he did, read the date, dec. 25 Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:59 PM > mm no you didn't =S maybe its the time from the server? =? > > Juan Fernando > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeffrey "botman" Broome" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:59 PM > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > > > voogru wrote: > >> Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see > >> his > >> reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. > > > > When you send email, the time on the client's machine is used for the > > timestamp (not the sending email server's time, the recipient's email > > server's time or the recipient's machine's time). > > > > Notice how I sent this message from the future! ;) > > > > -- > > Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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mm no you didn't =S maybe its the time from the server? =? Juan Fernando - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey "botman" Broome" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? voogru wrote: Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. When you send email, the time on the client's machine is used for the timestamp (not the sending email server's time, the recipient's email server's time or the recipient's machine's time). Notice how I sent this message from the future! ;) -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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voogru wrote: Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. When you send email, the time on the client's machine is used for the timestamp (not the sending email server's time, the recipient's email server's time or the recipient's machine's time). Notice how I sent this message from the future! ;) -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Hello!
It will be true (just as soon as I write it).
Since it is not written yet, then may I make a small request? :)
Our modification uses its own modular system and we routed metamod
functionality to plugins directly from metamod (we didn't want to do
SERVER_COMMAND("meta load ")).
It will save us thousands of lines of code and hours of debugging with two
functions like this: Meta_LoadPlugin() and Meta_UnloadPlugin().
Thanks!
~dvander
- Alfred
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Hello,
I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in
metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? Or is
it only a myth?
Thanks
PM
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Is it me, or did Alfred's reply before the original mail get in? I see his reply at 1:50 PM, while Pavol's mail got in at 1:54. Alfred is hiding something from us... ;) - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Alfred Reynolds wrote: It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent to the list when something is available. Now that Half-Life2 is done, poor Alfred is the only one at Valve who still has work to do! :) -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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It will be true (just as soon as I write it). Details will be sent to the list when something is available. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavol Marko Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] Does HL2 have built-in metamod-like functionality? > Hello, > > I remember someone stating that the HL2 engine will have built-in > metamod like functionality a while back. Is this actually true? Or is > it only a myth? > > Thanks > PM > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
