Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Garry Newman
Nice. Looks pretty intelligent. (Moreso than most TF2 players).

This might be a stupid question but can you still get achievements by
killing the bots? I mean if they're on a proper server and you do
something to them that would normally unlock an achievement..


garry

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I've been working with Tony on exercising the new bot interface, and I
 must say it has me pretty excited. I wanted to shamelessly plug my TF2 bot
 in development at the same time as generally just updating others that at
 long last, the server plugin bot interface is getting the attention it has
 needed for oh so long.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHEetn64Vo

 To summarize, the new bot interface is going into the Orange Box engine, and
 so will be available for DOD:S, CS:S(when its updated to OB), TF2 of course,
 and whatever future Orange Box based mods/games pop up(hopefully HL2DM will
 be updated as well).

 If you are a fan of DOD:S or CS:S and want to help out at all, there is a
 discussion at Bots United you can check out to get more detailed info about
 this stuff.

 http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=3629page=8 - near the bottom

 Hopefully once Tony gets the interfaces and stuff solid it won't be too long
 of a process to go from his hands into a steam update near you. In order to
 get the interfaces solid for these several games I could use some help. I
 mention that help in the bots united thread linked above. Please discuss
 further there so as not to spam the coders list.
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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Paul Peloski
Congrats Jeremy I know you've been waiting for this for a long time. You've
done some great work in those videos. My concern is that I really love
playing TF2 and I don't think there's a need for bots in that game. I hope
it's pretty clear when you're playing with bots and easy to avoid (ie, in
the server browser.)

Regards,

Paul

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I've been working with Tony on exercising the new bot interface, and I
 must say it has me pretty excited. I wanted to shamelessly plug my TF2 bot
 in development at the same time as generally just updating others that at
 long last, the server plugin bot interface is getting the attention it has
 needed for oh so long.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHEetn64Vo

 To summarize, the new bot interface is going into the Orange Box engine,
 and
 so will be available for DOD:S, CS:S(when its updated to OB), TF2 of
 course,
 and whatever future Orange Box based mods/games pop up(hopefully HL2DM will
 be updated as well).

 If you are a fan of DOD:S or CS:S and want to help out at all, there is a
 discussion at Bots United you can check out to get more detailed info about
 this stuff.

 http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=3629page=8 - near the
 bottom

 Hopefully once Tony gets the interfaces and stuff solid it won't be too
 long
 of a process to go from his hands into a steam update near you. In order to
 get the interfaces solid for these several games I could use some help. I
 mention that help in the bots united thread linked above. Please discuss
 further there so as not to spam the coders list.
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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Keeper
This is one of my gripes.  It would be easy to put in an IsBot() statement
to prevent bots being used to get achievements.  But that would be a valve
side thing wouldn't it?

-Original Message-
From: Garry Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:49 AM
To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Bots  Server Plugins coming - woot

Nice. Looks pretty intelligent. (Moreso than most TF2 players).

This might be a stupid question but can you still get achievements by
killing the bots? I mean if they're on a proper server and you do
something to them that would normally unlock an achievement..


garry


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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Tom Edwards
There's a column you can enable to show how many bots there are on a 
server, and they don't add to reported playercounts.

A filter would certainly be nice though!

Paul Peloski wrote:
 Congrats Jeremy I know you've been waiting for this for a long time. You've
 done some great work in those videos. My concern is that I really love
 playing TF2 and I don't think there's a need for bots in that game. I hope
 it's pretty clear when you're playing with bots and easy to avoid (ie, in
 the server browser.)

 Regards,

 Paul

 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 So I've been working with Tony on exercising the new bot interface, and I
 must say it has me pretty excited. I wanted to shamelessly plug my TF2 bot
 in development at the same time as generally just updating others that at
 long last, the server plugin bot interface is getting the attention it has
 needed for oh so long.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHEetn64Vo

 To summarize, the new bot interface is going into the Orange Box engine,
 and
 so will be available for DOD:S, CS:S(when its updated to OB), TF2 of
 course,
 and whatever future Orange Box based mods/games pop up(hopefully HL2DM will
 be updated as well).

 If you are a fan of DOD:S or CS:S and want to help out at all, there is a
 discussion at Bots United you can check out to get more detailed info about
 this stuff.

 http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=3629page=8 - near the
 bottom

 Hopefully once Tony gets the interfaces and stuff solid it won't be too
 long
 of a process to go from his hands into a steam update near you. In order to
 get the interfaces solid for these several games I could use some help. I
 mention that help in the bots united thread linked above. Please discuss
 further there so as not to spam the coders list.
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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Tony omega Sergi
Yeah, and that's on my todo list.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Keeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is one of my gripes.  It would be easy to put in an IsBot() statement
 to prevent bots being used to get achievements.  But that would be a valve
 side thing wouldn't it?




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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Keeper
Gawd, I'd hate to see the length of that puppy! O.O

Thanks Tony, that's some good news.

Keeper

-Original Message-
From: Tony omega Sergi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Bots  Server Plugins coming - woot

Yeah, and that's on my todo list.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Keeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is one of my gripes.  It would be easy to put in an IsBot() statement
 to prevent bots being used to get achievements.  But that would be a valve
 side thing wouldn't it?




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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Jonathan Murphy
Seeing as there are already bots supported by TF2 you would think that
achievement earning would already be somewhat protected by their presence.

Very nice work though guys, although tbh, can't say that I've played a game
with bots for quite some time. The IEntityInfo sounds quite nice though,
vfunc hooking is generally what you would need to use to get access to that
stuff (and is something I am trying to refrain from using for a current TF2
plugin I am working on).

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Keeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gawd, I'd hate to see the length of that puppy! O.O

 Thanks Tony, that's some good news.

 Keeper

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony omega Sergi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:11 AM
 To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Bots  Server Plugins coming - woot

 Yeah, and that's on my todo list.

 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Keeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This is one of my gripes.  It would be easy to put in an IsBot()
 statement
  to prevent bots being used to get achievements.  But that would be a
 valve
  side thing wouldn't it?
 
 


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Re: [hlcoders] Bots Server Plugins coming - woot

2008-07-25 Thread Jeffrey botman Broome
Jeremy wrote:
 To summarize, the new bot interface is going into the Orange Box engine, and
 so will be available for DOD:S, CS:S(when its updated to OB), TF2 of course,
 and whatever future Orange Box based mods/games pop up(hopefully HL2DM will
 be updated as well).
 
 If you are a fan of DOD:S or CS:S and want to help out at all, there is a
 discussion at Bots United you can check out to get more detailed info about
 this stuff.
 
 http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=3629page=8 - near the bottom
 
 Hopefully once Tony gets the interfaces and stuff solid it won't be too long
 of a process to go from his hands into a steam update near you. In order to
 get the interfaces solid for these several games I could use some help. I
 mention that help in the bots united thread linked above. Please discuss
 further there so as not to spam the coders list.

Awesome!  It's nice to see Valve finally give some bot lovin' again like 
they did when the first SDK came out for the original Half-Life.

Way to go Valve!  You guys and gals truly are the best.  :)

I may have to get off my butt and get back to some bot coding for Source 
once again.

-- 
Jeffrey botman Broome

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