Re: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread hash
i dont get how you can go on a list of stuff you dont like on servers, that
mostly i agree with, but someone porn sprays is okay, while ppl under 20
isnt.

i find normally the gimps with pr0n sprays ARE kids under 20

nice rant otherwise

- Original Message -
From: K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] (no subject)


 WARCRAFT IS NOT CS DAMN IT !
 SERVER ADMINS REMOVE WARCRAFT MOD FROM YOUR SERVERS!!

 No really I HATE it.


 If ya wana play Warcraft play warcraft...
 I'm gona play CS the way it was intended.


 I WISH I could filter server's with mods in my server list.



 My Filter =

 No abusive admins (usually a 12 year old PUNK who I just WASITED)
 No hackers
 No children under 20
 No Newbs
 No servers with slots reserved so I can't join because they are full
...even
 though I filtered for NO FULL SERVERS
   (I hate that one)
 Yes Good quality porn spray
 No Camping Whiners
 No BOT's
 No AFK's
 No Stacked Teams
 NO WARCRAFT or DEATHMATCH or SUPERHERO MOD
  I WANA PLAY CS DAMN IT!
 No Ugly women
 No Fat chicks
 No Guys who pretend to be women (EUUH !!)
 No curse word filters
  EAT MY HOT LEAD BITCH  THAT'S RIGHT I SAID BIATCH ... Are you
 lookin at me? Cause I don't see no one else here ...






 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojciech H
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

 Check through all the Warcraft mods listed here:

 http://www.game-monitor.com/modsearch.php

 Michael Jordan wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Looking for a
 warcraft3 version 1.2 mod for cs. I have been to:
 
 
 
 http://djeyl.net/forum/
 
 http://www.gamingforums.com http://www.gamingforums.com/
 
 http://warcraft3.filefront.com http://warcraft3.filefront.com/
 
 
 
 and have also Googled all over the place but have not found this
 particular version. People say the newer versions can be set up almost
 like 1.2 but I don't want almost. Can someone help me find this mod or
 will I just get flamed for posting? There is a server owner named P-K
 in Tempe Arizona who runs this mod but he is hardly ever on and doesn't
 list any way to get in touch with him.
 
 
 
 Please help me!
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Michael Jordan
 
 (no, not him!)
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread Bruce \Bahamut\ Andrews
Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to
your... someplace other then the computer.
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

hash wrote:
i dont get how you can go on a list of stuff you dont like on servers, that
mostly i agree with, but someone porn sprays is okay, while ppl under 20
isnt.
i find normally the gimps with pr0n sprays ARE kids under 20
nice rant otherwise
- Original Message -
From: K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] (no subject)


WARCRAFT IS NOT CS DAMN IT !
SERVER ADMINS REMOVE WARCRAFT MOD FROM YOUR SERVERS!!
No really I HATE it.
If ya wana play Warcraft play warcraft...
I'm gona play CS the way it was intended.
I WISH I could filter server's with mods in my server list.

My Filter =
No abusive admins (usually a 12 year old PUNK who I just WASITED)
No hackers
No children under 20
No Newbs
No servers with slots reserved so I can't join because they are full

...even

though I filtered for NO FULL SERVERS
 (I hate that one)
Yes Good quality porn spray
No Camping Whiners
No BOT's
No AFK's
No Stacked Teams
NO WARCRAFT or DEATHMATCH or SUPERHERO MOD
I WANA PLAY CS DAMN IT!
No Ugly women
No Fat chicks
No Guys who pretend to be women (EUUH !!)
No curse word filters
EAT MY HOT LEAD BITCH  THAT'S RIGHT I SAID BIATCH ... Are you
lookin at me? Cause I don't see no one else here ...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojciech H
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Check through all the Warcraft mods listed here:
http://www.game-monitor.com/modsearch.php
Michael Jordan wrote:

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Looking for a
warcraft3 version 1.2 mod for cs. I have been to:

http://djeyl.net/forum/
http://www.gamingforums.com http://www.gamingforums.com/
http://warcraft3.filefront.com http://warcraft3.filefront.com/

and have also Googled all over the place but have not found this
particular version. People say the newer versions can be set up almost
like 1.2 but I don't want almost. Can someone help me find this mod or
will I just get flamed for posting? There is a server owner named P-K
in Tempe Arizona who runs this mod but he is hardly ever on and doesn't
list any way to get in touch with him.

Please help me!

Thanks,
Michael Jordan
(no, not him!)

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RE: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread Napier, Kevin
a little porn now and then never killed anyone. :)


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From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)


Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to
your... someplace other then the computer.

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread Bruce \Bahamut\ Andrews
Yeah, right in the middle of a game of counterstrike you're going to
drop your pants and begin your nightly ritual 'eh?
It's place is not in a video game (unless you're someone playing a
hentai game :s)
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

Napier, Kevin wrote:
a little porn now and then never killed anyone. :)
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to
your... someplace other then the computer.
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RE: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread Napier, Kevin
Your way too up tight my man..
Next you'll be saying there should be no 'fun'
allowed in games.  :--)


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)


Yeah, right in the middle of a game of counterstrike you're going to
drop your pants and begin your nightly ritual 'eh?
It's place is not in a video game (unless you're someone playing a
hentai game :s)

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews



Napier, Kevin wrote:

a little porn now and then never killed anyone. :)


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)


Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to
your... someplace other then the computer.

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread Bruce \Bahamut\ Andrews
Fun?  What's fun?  Sounds stupid. :p
Don't mind me, you just caught me after playing Battlefield:Vietnam.
Was frustrating, had people camping other areas all game while me and
some other guy were forced to fend off the same four people over and
over at the same building.  Very annoying :/
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

Napier, Kevin wrote:
Your way too up tight my man..
Next you'll be saying there should be no 'fun'
allowed in games.  :--)
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Yeah, right in the middle of a game of counterstrike you're going to
drop your pants and begin your nightly ritual 'eh?
It's place is not in a video game (unless you're someone playing a
hentai game :s)
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

Napier, Kevin wrote:

a little porn now and then never killed anyone. :)
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to
your... someplace other then the computer.
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread collusion m1kest4r
hes right, games like cs arent about sex. hence porn sprays shouldnt be around


On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:16:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fun?  What's fun?  Sounds stupid. :p

 Don't mind me, you just caught me after playing Battlefield:Vietnam.
 Was frustrating, had people camping other areas all game while me and
 some other guy were forced to fend off the same four people over and
 over at the same building.  Very annoying :/



 - Bruce Bahamut Andrews

 Napier, Kevin wrote:

 Your way too up tight my man..
 Next you'll be saying there should be no 'fun'
 allowed in games.  :--)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Bahamut Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
 
 
 Yeah, right in the middle of a game of counterstrike you're going to
 drop your pants and begin your nightly ritual 'eh?
 It's place is not in a video game (unless you're someone playing a
 hentai game :s)
 
 - Bruce Bahamut Andrews
 
 
 
 Napier, Kevin wrote:
 
 
 
 a little porn now and then never killed anyone. :)
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

2004-10-25 Thread Ooks Server
Yeah, it's driving me nutso. I've used this for a long time, and it's always
worked great. One day, no bandwidth. AFAIK nothing has changed. I can only
guess that I've done something stupid somewhere. I may start from scratch,
delete all of my downloadable content, go back through server configs again.
This is one of those stupid simple things that should work!


- Original Message -
From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 By what you have said in your other posts you would have your .wad files
in
 the /xdm folder correct. I originally had a problem with the folder layout
 when I first started using it. The folders must mirror your server exactly
 and your .wad files should be in the folder that sv_downloadurl indicates
 and all other files in the correct folders as on the game server. Since
you
 said the .bsp files are in /xdm/maps I would have to assume you have it
 right.

 You have created a .res file for each map and placed it in the /maps
folder
 on the game server right. Actually when I think about it most maps
wouldn't
 download from the game server properly without them. I have to admit your
 problem is somewhat puzzleing. An easy way to test it is to wait untill
the
 server is on a custom map and the rename the .bsp file for that map on
your
 client then connect or rename it and then connect and change to that map.
 The server will have to download the map to your client and you will know
 immediatly if it is working.

 Hope you get it figured out. It is a wonderful thing when it works.

 Rob...
 Obvious_Target
 [Z-U] Clan, Unit-Z.Com
 ---Original Message---

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 10/24/04 16:08:03
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

 Actually, it was in server.cfg, not sure how it got in autoexec.cfg. So, I
 took it out of autoexec.cfg and restarted server. It still doesn't work.
 Users join the server, and maps that are in
http://www.zootal.com/xdm/maps/
 are still downloaded from the server.


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Re: [hlds] Counter Strike Source server lag

2004-10-25 Thread Rob
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I have but to be honest I assumed it was my client since I really haven't
had any complaints from players. Guess I should start looking.

Rob...
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---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/24/04 23:14:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter Strike Source server lag

I haven't noticed anything either :/

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews



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RE: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread K. Mike Bradley
But CS porn sprays are all that I am getting!!!




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Bahamut
Andrews
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to your...
someplace other then the computer.

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews



hash wrote:

i dont get how you can go on a list of stuff you dont like on servers,
that mostly i agree with, but someone porn sprays is okay, while ppl
under 20 isnt.

i find normally the gimps with pr0n sprays ARE kids under 20

nice rant otherwise

- Original Message -
From: K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] (no subject)




WARCRAFT IS NOT CS DAMN IT !
SERVER ADMINS REMOVE WARCRAFT MOD FROM YOUR SERVERS!!

No really I HATE it.


If ya wana play Warcraft play warcraft...
I'm gona play CS the way it was intended.


I WISH I could filter server's with mods in my server list.



My Filter =

No abusive admins (usually a 12 year old PUNK who I just WASITED) No
hackers No children under 20 No Newbs No servers with slots reserved
so I can't join because they are full


...even


though I filtered for NO FULL SERVERS
  (I hate that one)
Yes Good quality porn spray
No Camping Whiners
No BOT's
No AFK's
No Stacked Teams
NO WARCRAFT or DEATHMATCH or SUPERHERO MOD
 I WANA PLAY CS DAMN IT!
No Ugly women
No Fat chicks
No Guys who pretend to be women (EUUH !!) No curse word
filters
 EAT MY HOT LEAD BITCH  THAT'S RIGHT I SAID BIATCH ... Are
you lookin at me? Cause I don't see no one else here ...






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojciech H
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

Check through all the Warcraft mods listed here:

http://www.game-monitor.com/modsearch.php

Michael Jordan wrote:



This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Looking for a
warcraft3 version 1.2 mod for cs. I have been to:



http://djeyl.net/forum/

http://www.gamingforums.com http://www.gamingforums.com/

http://warcraft3.filefront.com http://warcraft3.filefront.com/



and have also Googled all over the place but have not found this
particular version. People say the newer versions can be set up
almost like 1.2 but I don't want almost. Can someone help me find
this mod or will I just get flamed for posting? There is a server
owner named P-K in Tempe Arizona who runs this mod but he is hardly
ever on and doesn't list any way to get in touch with him.



Please help me!



Thanks,

Michael Jordan

(no, not him!)



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RE: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread K. Mike Bradley
Yet porn sprays are a great tactic.
If I had a dime for each time 10 guys stopped to look at a porn spray and
all got wacked ...
LOL!!




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I agree. I have client
upload turned off on our public server for this very reason. Wouldn't be a
problem but it should not be forced on others.

Rob...
Obvious_Target
[Z-U] Clan, Unit-Z.Com
---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/25/04 04:26:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to your...
someplace other then the computer.

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews



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Re: [hlds] RE: amd64 cpu compairson (Justin C. Gould)

2004-10-25 Thread m0gely
Ian mu wrote:
it is shenanegans tbh
Maybe your dictionary has a few extra pages in it then. ;P
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=shenanigans
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RE: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread richy
Larry Flynt got shot at a few times.

a little porn now and then never killed anyone. :)


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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)


Pornography has no place in games.  Leave your erotic fantasies to
your... someplace other then the computer.

- Bruce Bahamut Andrews

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[hlds] More exploitation fun

2004-10-25 Thread ironchef
L 10/25/2004 - 16:29:59: [myg0t]Opter178STEAM_ID_PENDING entered
the game
L 10/25/2004 - 16:30:03: [myg0t]OpterSTEAM_ID_PENDINGUnassigned
joined team CT
L 10/25/2004 - 16:30:03: [myg0t]OpterSTEAM_ID_PENDINGCT joined
team TERRORIST
L 10/25/2004 - 16:30:03: [myg0t]OpterSTEAM_ID_PENDINGTERRORIST
joined team CT
L 10/25/2004 - 16:30:03: [myg0t]OpterSTEAM_ID_PENDINGCT joined
team TERRORIST

And so on for about 1 lines in my log file. I had an error stating
that it would overflow, followed by an error that the memory could not
be read. I'll have screenshots for the next time it happens, which I
imagine won't take long.

Smaller servers seem to fall under their radar, but anything larger than
maybe 16 players is going to get nailed by these jerkoffs.

Consider this a plea for some flood-type cvars or protection from these
lame overflow exploits.

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RE: [hlds] More exploitation fun

2004-10-25 Thread ironchef
ironchef wrote:
 Consider this a plea for some flood-type cvars or protection from
 these lame overflow exploits.

Big dummeh. This was on CS:S.


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Re: [hlds] There is a serious Logging Bug since BETA...

2004-10-25 Thread Lord Devil
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

Addendum:
Okay now I have confirmation that this bug is present on all types of server -
even linux (got some more info from linux users as well as log files - same
problem there). This should make tracking it down much easier. We just can
hope that VALVe will pays more attention to this problem! I know this may not
be first priority for many of you, but as you see many sites are already
starting with log parsing for their homepages as well as their TOP10 lists
etc. and people finally begin asking hey why they have so many suicides,
missed kilss etc. cant you fix it - I always have to say the same, that till
VALVe fixed the log messages we cant do anything...! Lets push this, I guess
that this bug will not be hard to fix, it just needs to get recognized...
Thanks in advance,

LD
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:22:44 +0200, Lord Devil wrote:
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 Hello everyone!
 I want to report a serious issue with the logging capabilities of
 CS:Source. This bug exists since the BETA, I reported it many times
 but it never got fixed. Now as there are coming more and more LOG
 Parsers out I guess its time to do something against this bug. I
 copy the description of this bug from the Forum Post I posted some
 days ago:


 Original post:
 http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=162488[1[1]
 ]

 --

 Hello !


 Many of you dont know it... but many people are already beginning
 with some kind of stats logging. I just wanted to inform you, that
 the current state of the cs:s dedicated server version does not
 allow accurate log parsing ala PsychoStats, HLStats...!


 The Log Output of CS:S sometimes misses connect lines as well as
 entered the game lines. Well this wouldnt be much of a problem if
 there were not the problem that sometimes KILLS get logged as
 suicides! (Log_level 15 does not help!)


 I got log files even from servers all over the world and tried it
 (I guess this were all windows servers) and I could verify the
 missing log lines.


 You can also track when this happens. Just open the Server in VGUI
 mode and look at the Players TAB - You will see that sometimes
 players are playing on the server but not showing up in this tab!
 Exactly when this happens - Everyone who kills a player not in
 this players list get logged as being suicided!


 I tested it with standard configs, log_levels, console mode, VGUI
 mode, I got logs from different servers - everywhere the same
 problem! We really have to push this to valve so they will know it.
 I reported this problem since the BETA but it always got ignored!


 Kind regards and plz help us fix this,

 LD

 --


 The main problem with this bug is, that it gets ignored by most of
 the people(thats why it gets rarely reported) - I brought this up
 on many forums but many people said no everything works fine,
 because it doesnt happen all the time and not everyone is so nit-
 picking as me. But when I told them they should believe me if they
 dont they should give me me their log files and homepages so I can
 give them some evidence - I checked it for them and now they
 believe me too. Missing kills, kills reported as suicides etc. -
 that are just the problems I can identify... In the forum post
 above I already described when exactly the problem appears...

 So I really hope VALVe can fix those issue otherwise we will never
 be able to do accurate stats logging. I guess its just one bug
 which causes this behavriour, but we need to track it down and find
 it...


 Thanks for listeningl,

 LD

 ===References:===
 1.
 http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=162488[2]

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RE: [hlds] More exploitation fun

2004-10-25 Thread ironchef
ironchef wrote:
 be read. I'll have screenshots for the next time it happens, which I
 imagine won't take long.

It'd be cool if I wasn't right about that. Just happened again, an hour
and a half or so later. Error text read:

  BroadcastMessage:Reliabe Broadcast Message Would Overflow Client 7

:(


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RE: [hlds] There is a serious Logging Bug since BETA...

2004-10-25 Thread Lord Devil
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Hello Alfred!



First off, thanks for listening ;) !



Well as I know how difficult it is to track down bugs which dont occur all the
time and just happen every now and then, I now took the time with 3 friends
trying to reproduce the problem and it seems we were successfull! Usually it
just happens all the time on the servers if many people are joining and
leaving the server, but now as we tested with 3 people we should be able to
give you a detailed description:



First off we tried it on a standard Dedicated Server 16 people running in VGUI
Mode (FF on, log 1, hldsupdatetool version-so non steam, but I guess it should
work with every configuration). To reproduce the problem do the following:



1) Player A joins the Server - join the Terrorists team (everything will be
logged right!)

2) Player B joins the Server - join the CT team (everything will be logged
right again!)

3) Player C joins the Server - join any of the team but be sure that you are
still in the DEAD status when joining (so only join the team after the 30
seconds of the round have passed, thats imported, because then you will not
spawn immeadently, instead you will be dead until next round)

4) Now Player A has to leave the game - now the bug should occur - you can
see it if you watch in the VGUI windows of the server under the Players Tab,
you will see that not only Player A is removed from this tab, also player C
who is just in this DEAD status is removed. From now on this player will not
be right logged in the console anymore. E.G. if he kills someone, there may be
no log line, If another player kills him there may be a suicide logged etc. !
If a new or the same player now enters the game again I guess all people will
show right again. But I had not the time to test every possibilty! The
described way should just show the main problem, so you should be able to
track it down from this on.



If you need any further descriptions feel free to ask, also if the above way
should not work I could try to give you more detail. But as it looks, this bug
should happen on every server configuration. Its just better to use the VGUI
server version (not console mode) as you can see the logging problem already
in this Player Tab - I first thought its just a bug that people dont show
up in this tab sometimes, but it seems its directly related to the wrong
logging output!



You can also easliy see this bug on a running full live server - as there are
joining and leaving people all the time, you may see that the player TAB
does not hold all people who are playing in the game. And then you should also
encounter many suicides logged etc...



Thank you,

LD



P.S. Sorry for my bad english, but as english is not my native language it
wasnt so easy to explain, hope you got everything right!



On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:46:46 -0700, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 If you have a way to simply reproduce this problem (i.e start a
 server, have x people join, all type kill and you see the bug) then
 please send it to me.

 - Alfred

 Original Message
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lord Devil
 Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:37 PM To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] There is a serious
 Logging Bug since BETA...

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 Addendum:
 Okay now I have confirmation that this bug is present on all
 types of server - even linux (got some more info from linux
 users as well as log files - same problem there). This should
 make tracking it down much easier. We just can hope that VALVe
 will pays more attention to this problem! I know this may not be
 first priority for many of you, but as you see many sites are
 already starting with log parsing for their homepages as well as
 their TOP10 lists etc. and people finally begin asking hey why
 they have so many suicides, missed kilss etc. cant you fix it -
 I always have to say the same, that till VALVe fixed the log
 messages we cant do anything...! Lets push this, I guess that
 this bug will not be hard to fix, it just needs to get
 recognized... Thanks in advance,

 LD
 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:22:44 +0200, Lord Devil wrote:
 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

 Hello everyone!
 I want to report a serious issue with the logging capabilities
 of CS:Source. This bug exists since the BETA, I reported it
 many times but it never got fixed. Now as there are coming more
 and more LOG Parsers out I guess its time to do something
 against this bug. I copy the description of this bug from the
 Forum Post I posted some days ago:


 Original post:

 http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=162488[1[2]

 [1] ]

 --

 Hello !


 Many of you dont know it... but many people are already
 beginning with some kind of stats logging. I just wanted to
 inform you, that the current state of the cs:s dedicated server
 version does not allow accurate log parsing ala PsychoStats,
 HLStats...!



Re: [hlds] (no subject)

2004-10-25 Thread Michael Jordan
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Wow, I'm sorry I asked the original question. I never thought it would
provoke such a spirited debate.



By the way, I did find the correct version and get it installed. Sure wish I
could find that admin (P-K) and get a copy of his warcraft3.amx file. It
would save me the hassle of figuring out all the variables and recompiling.
Too bad he never answers his PM's at
http://server.counter-strike.net/forums.



Thanks guys,

MJ



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[hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update

2004-10-25 Thread Alfred Reynolds
We have released an update to Counter-Strike: Source. To get this update
run the hldsupdatetool.

This update addresses the server crashes caused by changeteam spamming
and fixes a couple other related bugs. More details of this update can
be read at:
http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=newsid=334

- Alfred


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Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

2004-10-25 Thread Ooks Server
I looked into my archives, and I've always had those missing wad files in
the RES, and I don't have a valve directory, sv_downloadurl points into the
mod directory. That is not what is stopping this from working. I re-verified
my maps and stuff, didn't actually change anything, tried it and it works.
wtf? I'm loosing it...why didn't it work before? I just now tried
ook_criticalmass24, the one that would not download a few days ago, and it
is screaming in from my download site. At this point I'm beginning to
suspect my download site may be having issues, but when I couldn't get a
client to download from the I could manually download from there. I've had a
few players tell me that the download is working fine for them as well.
HmmI'm so confused LOL
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

Ooks,
  That map has a bad wadfile reference and some other compile problems
that are causing a svc_bad message, but the basic thing you're missing is
that the remote path has be a standard valve directory structure to
work properly,
IE:
valve\maps\ook_criticalmass24.bsp
valve\maps\ook_criticalmass24.res
valve\sprites (if any)
valve\sound (if any)
valve\gfx\env (if any)
valve\models (if any)
valve\overviews (if any)
valve\*.wad (if any)
and you need a .res file
qUiCkSiLvEr
- Original Message -
From: Ooks Server
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem
I just noticed that the traffic on my download site is sitting at zero. I
have this line in my autoexec.cfg:
sv_downloadurl http://www.zootal.com/xdm/;
I have the following file:
http://www.zootal.com/xdm/maps/ook_criticalmass24.bsp
I change the server to that map, and the client downloads the map from the
server, and not from my download site. I even tried
http://www.zootal.com/xdm/valve/maps/ook_criticalmass24.bsp and it still
will not download from the download site.
What am I missing?
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Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

2004-10-25 Thread Rob
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So it is working now?

If I was you I think I would forget this whole conversation and be happy. I
personaly like it when things fix themselves although I preffer when they do
it sooner then later.

I really need to check out your server some time. Sounds like fun.

Rob...
Obvious_Target
[Z-U] Clan, Unit-Z.Com
---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/25/04 21:13:59
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

I looked into my archives, and I've always had those missing wad files in
the RES, and I don't have a valve directory, sv_downloadurl points into the
mod directory. That is not what is stopping this from working. I re-verified
my maps and stuff, didn't actually change anything, tried it and it works.
wtf? I'm loosing it...why didn't it work before? I just now tried
ook_criticalmass24, the one that would not download a few days ago, and it
is screaming in from my download site. At this point I'm beginning to
suspect my download site may be having issues, but when I couldn't get a
client to download from the I could manually download from there. I've had a
few players tell me that the download is working fine for them as well.
HmmI'm so confused LOL


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Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

2004-10-25 Thread Whisper
Problems that go away by themselves, can come back by themselves!


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:19:45 -0600 (Mountain Daylight Time), Rob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 So it is working now?

 If I was you I think I would forget this whole conversation and be happy. I
 personaly like it when things fix themselves although I preffer when they do
 it sooner then later.

 I really need to check out your server some time. Sounds like fun.



 Rob...
 Obvious_Target
 [Z-U] Clan, Unit-Z.Com
 ---Original Message---

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 10/25/04 21:13:59
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] sv_downloadurl problem

 I looked into my archives, and I've always had those missing wad files in
 the RES, and I don't have a valve directory, sv_downloadurl points into the
 mod directory. That is not what is stopping this from working. I re-verified
 my maps and stuff, didn't actually change anything, tried it and it works.
 wtf? I'm loosing it...why didn't it work before? I just now tried
 ook_criticalmass24, the one that would not download a few days ago, and it
 is screaming in from my download site. At this point I'm beginning to
 suspect my download site may be having issues, but when I couldn't get a
 client to download from the I could manually download from there. I've had a
 few players tell me that the download is working fine for them as well.
 HmmI'm so confused LOL

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