Re: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Whisper]

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Several reason why I can think of, off the top of my head:
 1. You are already in the server and want to demo a player
 2. SRCTV is obvious
 3. SRCTV does not display the nuances of the players actions, no zooming,
no recoil, no flashbangs etc etc
 Cheers

 On 10/29/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Okay, CS:S eh, I will run this request past the team. Why aren't you
> using a SrcTV relay to do this?
>
> - Alfred
>
> Original Message
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent:
> Friday, October 28, 2005 7:02 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > I forgot to add, I think he means CS:Source
> >
> > On 10/29/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Alfred, he means you are spectating and you have a player in first
> > > person mode and demo'ing them and for whatever reason the player
> > > does not die (probably because they are cheating) so you have no
> > > reason to touch the keyborad or mouse and this causes the server
> > > think you are inactive since it has received no input from you, the
> > > server kicks you. Does that make sense?
> > >
> > > On 10/29/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For what game?
> > > >
> > > > Original Message
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > > Desolate_One Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:07 PM To:
> > > > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked
> > > > for Inactivity.
> > > >
> > > > > Alfred,
> > > > > Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
> > > > > rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?
> > > > >
> > > > > Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough
> > > > > evidence to substantiate a ban of any description, when you get
> > > > > kicked after 5 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
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RE: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Desolate_One]

Well I'd say most Admins of any HL1/2 game, including Source based, would
appreciate this.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2005 12:02 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

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I forgot to add, I think he means CS:Source

On 10/29/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alfred, he means you are spectating and you have a player in first person
> mode and demo'ing them and for whatever reason the player does not die
> (probably because they are cheating) so you have no reason to touch the
> keyborad or mouse and this causes the server think you are inactive since
it
> has received no input from you, the server kicks you.
>  Does that make sense?
>
>  On 10/29/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For what game?
> >
> > Original Message
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desolate_One
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:07 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.
> >
> > > Alfred,
> > > Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
> > > rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?
> > >
> > > Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough
> > > evidence to
> > > substantiate a ban of any description, when you get kicked after 5
> > > minutes.
> > >
> > > Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
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RE: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Alfred Reynolds]

Okay, CS:S eh, I will run this request past the team. Why aren't you
using a SrcTV relay to do this?

- Alfred

Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent:
Friday, October 28, 2005 7:02 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I forgot to add, I think he means CS:Source
>
> On 10/29/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Alfred, he means you are spectating and you have a player in first
> > person mode and demo'ing them and for whatever reason the player
> > does not die (probably because they are cheating) so you have no
> > reason to touch the keyborad or mouse and this causes the server
> > think you are inactive since it has received no input from you, the
> > server kicks you.  Does that make sense?
> >
> >  On 10/29/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > For what game?
> > >
> > > Original Message
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Desolate_One Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:07 PM To:
> > > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked
> > > for Inactivity.
> > >
> > > > Alfred,
> > > > Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
> > > > rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?
> > > >
> > > > Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough
> > > > evidence to substantiate a ban of any description, when you get
> > > > kicked after 5 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Whisper]

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I forgot to add, I think he means CS:Source

On 10/29/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alfred, he means you are spectating and you have a player in first person
> mode and demo'ing them and for whatever reason the player does not die
> (probably because they are cheating) so you have no reason to touch the
> keyborad or mouse and this causes the server think you are inactive since it
> has received no input from you, the server kicks you.
>  Does that make sense?
>
>  On 10/29/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For what game?
> >
> > Original Message
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desolate_One
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:07 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.
> >
> > > Alfred,
> > > Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
> > > rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?
> > >
> > > Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough
> > > evidence to
> > > substantiate a ban of any description, when you get kicked after 5
> > > minutes.
> > >
> > > Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Whisper]

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Alfred, he means you are spectating and you have a player in first person
mode and demo'ing them and for whatever reason the player does not die
(probably because they are cheating) so you have no reason to touch the
keyborad or mouse and this causes the server think you are inactive since it
has received no input from you, the server kicks you.
 Does that make sense?

 On 10/29/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For what game?
>
> Original Message
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desolate_One
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:07 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.
>
> > Alfred,
> > Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
> > rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?
> >
> > Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough
> > evidence to
> > substantiate a ban of any description, when you get kicked after 5
> > minutes.
> >
> > Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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RE: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Alfred Reynolds]

For what game?

Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desolate_One
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:07 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

> Alfred,
> Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
> rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?
>
> Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough
> evidence to
> substantiate a ban of any description, when you get kicked after 5
> minutes.
>
> Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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[hlds] Admins Being Kicked for Inactivity.

[Desolate_One]

Alfred,
  Would it be possible to have Admin who have entered the
rcon_password, who are spectating, NOT be kicked as per current?

Get's EXTREMILY annoying when you are trying to gather enough evidence to
substantiate a ban of any description, when you get kicked after 5 minutes.

Would be appreciated across the Admins I would hope.

Thanks.


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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[Dan Stevens (IAmAI)]

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I had the exact same problem with a crappy BT router that they supply for
free. I replaced it with a proper, wireless router and the problem has went.

Dan


On 29/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You could always try www.speedguide.net  's tcp
> optimizer to change the max number of connections per server I am not
> sure if it will help your concern tho, as it sounds like a 'bursting'
> problem caused by something like antivirus/antispyware and/or a firewall or
> router. Maybe it's just because all 3 are contributing as well.
>
> But try the optimizer anyway. You may enjoy some other effects from it on
> your connection.
>
> --Ozz
>
> -- Original message --
>
> > i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
> > itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and
> have
> > never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
> don't
> > see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
> and
> > i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a
> period
> > of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into
> it
> > being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe
> try
> > pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
> > worry about it too much though...
> >
> > sKel
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Napier, Kevin"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
> >
> >
> > Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app
> "feature" ?
> >
> > Home or Pro?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
> >
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
> the
> > Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
> > server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
> browser.
> > If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
> game.
> >
> > This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is
> on,
> > and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
> it
> > still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
> > anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and
> join my
> > server.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT

[ray]

Sir,

I suggested a website, pointed you to a possible solution and that you
simply list OT in the subject so we can properly filter our inbound. Those
weew two things I gave you and 1 simple request. Not sure how long it's been
since you've trudged down to a nice quiet bar and had a cold one but I'd
suggest you take some time out of this weekend and go cool yourself off.
Call your momma and tell her you love her or something. This is a server
administration list as you well know and so should you also know that your
question definitely falls into the aforementioned title of OT. The net isn't
a place you show your ass at a guy who don't deserve it. If somebody else
stepped on your toe today go bark at them but don't light up on me during
your bad day. Might find a few teeth missing some day over shooting your
mouth off like this. Just some friendly advice.

Rayne

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:35 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list -
OT

Thanks for the suggestion, it seems to have worked.

Your additional attitude was not required or welcome though.  I am a server
admin, and I have helped when I can on these mailing lists.  So people like
you and Eric can shove it up your elitist asses when it comes to telling
people to not use the mailing lists for help, even if it happens to be a
simple question that may not be directly related to a Linux or Win server.

I've seen far worse off topic discussions here that go on for days
unchecked.  So when 1 person (a server admin no less) asks for a little help
you may want to consider biting your tongue instead of being a jerkoff.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list -
OT


> Please take this to the Steampowered.com Forums or please list [OT] in the
> subject. On your way check the settings of your Steam client and turn the
> speed down in there. That is suppose to directly control how many servers
> it
> queries at a time when you refresh.
>
> Rayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:47 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>
> Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
> everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
> connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.
>
> And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
> last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom
> maps
> to play.  So I really doubt its the router.
>
> Dagok
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>
>
>>i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
>> itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and
>> have
>> never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
>> don't
>> see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
>> and
>> i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a
>> period
>> of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into
>> it
>> being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
>> pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
>> worry about it too much though...
>>
>> sKel
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
>> Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>>
>>
>> Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app
>> "feature"
>> ?
>>
>> Home or Pro?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>>
>>
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
>> the
>> Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
>> server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
>> browser.
>> If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
>> game.
>>
>> This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is
>> on,
>> and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
>> it

[hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4141 - 10 msgs

[Chris | FatPipeServer.com]

The issue with the refresh causing a timeout is definitely related to your
internet connection.  I was on a "ultra-highspeed" connection previously and
never had the issue.  Then I switched internet providers and now I have this
issue all the time.  It is definitely the case.


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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT

[Dagok]

Thanks for the suggestion, it seems to have worked.

Your additional attitude was not required or welcome though.  I am a server
admin, and I have helped when I can on these mailing lists.  So people like
you and Eric can shove it up your elitist asses when it comes to telling
people to not use the mailing lists for help, even if it happens to be a
simple question that may not be directly related to a Linux or Win server.

I've seen far worse off topic discussions here that go on for days
unchecked.  So when 1 person (a server admin no less) asks for a little help
you may want to consider biting your tongue instead of being a jerkoff.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list -
OT



Please take this to the Steampowered.com Forums or please list [OT] in the
subject. On your way check the settings of your Steam client and turn the
speed down in there. That is suppose to directly control how many servers
it
queries at a time when you refresh.

Rayne

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:47 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.

And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom
maps
to play.  So I really doubt its the router.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list



i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and
have
never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
don't
see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
and
i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a
period
of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into
it
being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
worry about it too much though...

sKel

- Original Message -
From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app
"feature"
?

Home or Pro?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is
on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[ozmosissound]

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You could always try www.speedguide.net 's tcp optimizer to change the max 
number of connections per server  I am not sure if it will help your 
concern tho, as it sounds like a 'bursting' problem caused by something like 
antivirus/antispyware and/or a firewall or router. Maybe it's just because all 
3 are contributing as well.

But try the optimizer anyway.  You may enjoy some other effects from it on your 
connection.

--Ozz

-- Original message --

> i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
> itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
> never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i don't
> see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os. and
> i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
> of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
> being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
> pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
> worry about it too much though...
>
> sKel
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Napier, Kevin"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>
>
> Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature" ?
>
> Home or Pro?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
> Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
> server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
> If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.
>
> This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is on,
> and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
> still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
> anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
> server.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT

[ray]

Please take this to the Steampowered.com Forums or please list [OT] in the
subject. On your way check the settings of your Steam client and turn the
speed down in there. That is suppose to directly control how many servers it
queries at a time when you refresh.

Rayne

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:47 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.

And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom maps
to play.  So I really doubt its the router.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


>i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
> itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
> never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
> don't
> see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
> and
> i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
> of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
> being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
> pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
> worry about it too much though...
>
> sKel
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>
>
> Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature"
> ?
>
> Home or Pro?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
> the
> Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
> server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
> browser.
> If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
> game.
>
> This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
> and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
> it
> still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
> anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
> my
> server.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Dagok
> --
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[Dagok]

Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.

And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom maps
to play.  So I really doubt its the router.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list



i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
don't
see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
and
i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
worry about it too much though...

sKel

- Original Message -
From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature"
?

Home or Pro?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[Dagok]

It's a D-Link router, and I havent had a problem with any other
applications, games or server browsers.

Dagok

- Original Message -
From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list



its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive
list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection
temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't
do
something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you
just have a junkie router or something.

sKel

- Original Message -
From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[sKel]

i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i don't
see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os. and
i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
worry about it too much though...

sKel

- Original Message -
From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature" ?

Home or Pro?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[Napier, Kevin]

Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature" ?

Home or Pro?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the 
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the 
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.  If 
using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on, and 
I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still 
does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses 
server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[dexion]

Junk router here :)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sKel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:14 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive
list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection
temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't do
something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you
just have a junkie router or something.

sKel

- Original Message -
From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[dexion]

i get the same thing I have a motorola router. I am just assuming it cant
handle the requests all at once (limited handles) and poops out.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[sKel]

its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive
list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection
temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't do
something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you
just have a junkie router or something.

sKel

- Original Message -
From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

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Dagok
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[hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

[Dagok]

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--
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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the 
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the 
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.  If 
using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on, and 
I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still 
does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses 
server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] HudMsg's

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I would also like to see the Csay's and Tsay's re-enabled.  Alfred?? Help??

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> http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27048&highlight=#27048 is
> the real link
>
> wolvie fails at posting links because he posted a link to quote his
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>
> On 10/27/05, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
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