RE: [hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Jason O. Washburn
Amen Brother

Jason

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Subject: Re: [hlds] source dedicated server


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Andrew

If you want more help than what has been provided thus far, you will
have to do more to prove you are worthy of assistance by demonstrating
that you have followed the basics like reading the Instruction manual
that comes with the program.

This may help you:
http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS-S
RCDS

In defense of Bush, people on technical mailing lists tend to be very
short with people who do not even try to make it possible to help them.

Explaining your problem as, "I double clicked the program and it doesn't
work" is never going to endear a person on any sort of technical list.
Without a proper explanation of the problem and the troubleshooting
steps taken thus far, the initial poster just looks lazy at best or
stupid/naive at worst.

I am all for helping people out, that much ought to be quite obvious,
but I am not prepared to do other peoples jobs for them, nor am I
prepared to help people out who do not appear to wish to help
themselves.

On 6/16/06, Andrew Jaynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I installed source dedicated server in hl2server and when i double
> click on srcds icon nothing happens, it doesnt open the program. What
> did I do wrong?  I have installed half life dedicated server in
> hl1server and it works perfect.
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Re: [hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Whisper
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Andrew

If you want more help than what has been provided thus far, you will have to
do more to prove you are worthy of assistance by demonstrating that you have
followed the basics like reading the Instruction manual that comes with the
program.

This may help you:
http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS-SRCDS

In defense of Bush, people on technical mailing lists tend to be very short
with people who do not even try to make it possible to help them.

Explaining your problem as, "I double clicked the program and it doesn't
work" is never going to endear a person on any sort of technical list.
Without a proper explanation of the problem and the troubleshooting steps
taken thus far, the initial poster just looks lazy at best or stupid/naive
at worst.

I am all for helping people out, that much ought to be quite obvious, but I
am not prepared to do other peoples jobs for them, nor am I prepared to help
people out who do not appear to wish to help themselves.

On 6/16/06, Andrew Jaynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I installed source dedicated server in hl2server and when i double click
> on srcds icon nothing happens, it doesnt open the program. What did I do
> wrong?  I have installed half life dedicated server in hl1server and it
> works perfect.
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Re: [hlds] hackers in dod source server

2006-06-15 Thread Whisper
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If its is a DoD:S exploit then it will more than likely be a SRCDS exploit
across the board.

I guess will soon find out if its just a Leo specific servers problem or all
of us. :)

9 times out of 10 though, thankfully it is a PEBKAC issue not a problem with
the program.

On 6/16/06, Affordablegameservers.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> do you have logs with how he sent the commands?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of leo bounds
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:34 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] hackers in dod source server
>
>
> I had an admin complaining about someone that had
> somehow got control over his DOD:Source server and was
> harrassing the admins in game and restarting the
> server at will by changing maps.
>
> Running on the server at the time were manimod and
> eventscripts. I shut down the server and restarted it
> with no mods and changed the RCON password as well.
>
> Still this person seems to be able to keep changing
> the maps.
>
> Has anyone heard of any DOD Source Exploit like this ?
>
> Please let me know if you have. It is very annoying.
>
> Thank you. LB
>
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RE: [hlds] hackers in dod source server

2006-06-15 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
do you have logs with how he sent the commands?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:34 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] hackers in dod source server


I had an admin complaining about someone that had
somehow got control over his DOD:Source server and was
harrassing the admins in game and restarting the
server at will by changing maps.

Running on the server at the time were manimod and
eventscripts. I shut down the server and restarted it
with no mods and changed the RCON password as well.

Still this person seems to be able to keep changing
the maps.

Has anyone heard of any DOD Source Exploit like this ?

Please let me know if you have. It is very annoying.

Thank you. LB

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[hlds] hackers in dod source server

2006-06-15 Thread leo bounds
I had an admin complaining about someone that had
somehow got control over his DOD:Source server and was
harrassing the admins in game and restarting the
server at will by changing maps.

Running on the server at the time were manimod and
eventscripts. I shut down the server and restarted it
with no mods and changed the RCON password as well.

Still this person seems to be able to keep changing
the maps.

Has anyone heard of any DOD Source Exploit like this ?

Please let me know if you have. It is very annoying.

Thank you. LB

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RE: [hlds] Weapon complaints

2006-06-15 Thread Skul`Hamr
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New update weapon problems.  Check out the screenshot I just made shooting
the crossbow.  The bolt on certain axes takes a tangent from the crosshairs
target.  I've noticed this varies according to deviation from horizontal and
the deflection could be related to certain objects in the map too I suppose.

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 [__Skul`Hamr Shell`Shockr__]
 69.28.220.181:27015
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Crabtree
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:14 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Weapon complaints

I'm getting all sorts of complaints about the weapons in HL2DM now.  Is
there something messed up with the hitboxes?  Only the spray damage and
physics object seem to be the same.  Forget killing anybody with the
ar2,smg1,shotgun.  Is this as designed or is it a WIP?

Thanks,

Doug Crabtree


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RE: [hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Edward Luna
Amen.

-Original Message-
From: Joey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:55 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] source dedicated server


I think he was asking for help ,not sarcasum...why join a mailing list
if
the user is going to be treated this way?
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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] source dedicated server


> You don't know how to use a computer, that's what you did wrong.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Jaynes
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:45 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] source dedicated server
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I installed source dedicated server in hl2server and when i double
click
> on
> srcds icon nothing happens, it doesnt open the program. What did I do
> wrong?
> I have installed half life dedicated server in hl1server and it works
> perfect.
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Re: [hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Joey

I think he was asking for help ,not sarcasum...why join a mailing list if
the user is going to be treated this way?
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] source dedicated server



You don't know how to use a computer, that's what you did wrong.

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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:45 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] source dedicated server

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I installed source dedicated server in hl2server and when i double click
on
srcds icon nothing happens, it doesnt open the program. What did I do
wrong?
I have installed half life dedicated server in hl1server and it works
perfect.
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Re: [hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Chris Bass

You need to put a command line on the end of it. Try my program
http://escapedrabbit.com.

Andrew Jaynes wrote:

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RE: [hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Bush
You don't know how to use a computer, that's what you did wrong.

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Subject: [hlds] source dedicated server

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 I installed source dedicated server in hl2server and when i double click on
srcds icon nothing happens, it doesnt open the program. What did I do wrong?
I have installed half life dedicated server in hl1server and it works
perfect.
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[hlds] source dedicated server

2006-06-15 Thread Andrew Jaynes
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 I installed source dedicated server in hl2server and when i double click on 
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have installed half life dedicated server in hl1server and it works perfect.
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RE: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

2006-06-15 Thread Bush
Turn off "Center Player Names"

Thanks.

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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:24 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

Are the gigantic names when looking at someone going to remain? It's rather
distracting.


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RE: [hlds] [OT]Whisper's Tick rate Wiki

2006-06-15 Thread Bush
Have you ever made a multiplayer game? Wait.. have you coded anything?

Have you ever done anything but complain?

Please remove this FAG from the list, as he doesn't understand the
difference between his brains from his asshole.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:18 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT]Whisper's Tick rate Wiki

hell if the steam forums mod 9and what a bunch of morons they are) think
it's cool to remove post from the most informative SRCDS man on the
planet then they can ALL GET FUCKED. Whisper should be consulting valve
on their shitty half ass programmed game. to tell them how to program
and make an online games. TBH i think this is a disgrace and this could
be the final straw in the cap for me as far a valve is concerned. I have
watched valve decend from great hights to become what is no better than
microsoft for gamers. Everyone associated with valve should be ashamed
and disgusted at what has been done under their name.

You make think that this is melodramtic, i disagree, because at the end
of the day we are all customer's, server admin or player, WE ARE STILL
VALVES CUSTOMERS. i have a retail background and if i had a track record
similar to valve i would lose my job.

FYI i am now considering with drawing support for all valve game
permantly. in protest at the disgraceful way vlave deals with it's
customers, and fore most, the ppl that run it's gaming network for it.

Evo wrote:

>That sucks. You're always welcome at CSE, please continue to keep us
>informed of your publications.
>
>-Evo
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
>Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:22 AM
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT]Whisper's Tick rate Wiki
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>Since I could not be 100% sure which STEAM Forum moderator locked the
>perfectly legitmate thread, I'm afraid you all get tarred with the same
>brush, even if you did not agree with the actions of the moderator in
>question.
>
>Hell, the existance of the thread explained to a great deal of people,
which
>many of them thanked me for in the thread, for explaining to them something
>were not aware of, and more importantly, an issue 95% of the respondants
>thought was a very serious issue in a FIRST PERSON SHOOTING game.
>
>This is the issue I raised in the forums with proof below so those of you
>will know what the hell it is I am talking about:
>
>The original version of this thread had not degenerated into spam.
>
>
>>Many people were not aware of the issue and the thread served an important
>>purpose of informing those people of what the issue was.
>>
>>Funnily enough, when it was clearly demonstrated to them what the issue
>>was, most of them wanted the issue fixed.
>>
>>The only purpose served by locking the orginal version of the thread, was
>>to save Valve from the embarrasment of having a [b]BUG[/b] that may be
>>difficult from Valve's Point Of View to fix!
>>
>>Locking threads is not going to make this issue go away, no matter how
>>much some of you wish it would, or are you all just happy to bury your
>>
>>
>heads
>
>
>>in the sand and keep locking threads on this issue in the hopes people
>>
>>
>will
>
>
>>just forget about it?
>>
>>Well the previous [url=
>>
>>
>>
>http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=395733]The
O
>fficial Crouched Point of View Change Petition Thread[/url] was locked with
>
>
>>no explanation or official announcement whatsoever, although funnily
>>
>>
>enough
>
>
>>it was fairly soon after it was clearly demonstrated that there was 400
>>votes [b]FOR[/b] and 5 Votes [b]AGAINST[/b] and a 95% to 5% ratio of
>>[b]YES[/b] to [b]NO[/b]Votes which ultimately proved that it almost
>>everybody but Valve consider this a fairly serious issue.
>>
>>But here it is again.
>>
>>If the other thread was locked in error, please unlock it and lock this
>>one.
>>
>>If there is an official announcement to be made on the issue, please make
>>it.
>>
>>Please do not lock threads for no apparent reason.
>>
>>Thank You
>>
>>[b][u][size=4][color=red]The Official Crouched Point of View Change
>>Petition[/color][/size][/u][/b]
>>
>>Please Vote in the thread by replying with a post stating Yes or No and
>>the reason why you feel the change should or should not be made to:
>>
>>[b][size=2][color=white]Valve, please Change the Crouched Point of View in
>>Counter-Strike:Source, so it is at the same level as your Models Eye
>>
>>
>height
>
>
>>would be
>>
>>YES or NO and the reason why you feel the change should or should not be
>>made[/color][/size][/b]
>>
>>DON'T JUST VIEW THE THREAD, CLICK REPLY AND THEN TYPE YOUR ANSWER
>>YES or NO
>>
>>Make sure you give some reason why you agree or disagree why the crouched
>>POV should be changed, lest some moderators decide to lock the

Re: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

2006-06-15 Thread James McKenna

Are the gigantic names when looking at someone going to remain? It's rather
distracting.


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Re: [hlds] [OT]Whisper's Tick rate Wiki

2006-06-15 Thread David Williams

hell if the steam forums mod 9and what a bunch of morons they are) think
it's cool to remove post from the most informative SRCDS man on the
planet then they can ALL GET FUCKED. Whisper should be consulting valve
on their shitty half ass programmed game. to tell them how to program
and make an online games. TBH i think this is a disgrace and this could
be the final straw in the cap for me as far a valve is concerned. I have
watched valve decend from great hights to become what is no better than
microsoft for gamers. Everyone associated with valve should be ashamed
and disgusted at what has been done under their name.

You make think that this is melodramtic, i disagree, because at the end
of the day we are all customer's, server admin or player, WE ARE STILL
VALVES CUSTOMERS. i have a retail background and if i had a track record
similar to valve i would lose my job.

FYI i am now considering with drawing support for all valve game
permantly. in protest at the disgraceful way vlave deals with it's
customers, and fore most, the ppl that run it's gaming network for it.

Evo wrote:


That sucks. You're always welcome at CSE, please continue to keep us
informed of your publications.

-Evo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:22 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT]Whisper's Tick rate Wiki

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Since I could not be 100% sure which STEAM Forum moderator locked the
perfectly legitmate thread, I'm afraid you all get tarred with the same
brush, even if you did not agree with the actions of the moderator in
question.

Hell, the existance of the thread explained to a great deal of people, which
many of them thanked me for in the thread, for explaining to them something
were not aware of, and more importantly, an issue 95% of the respondants
thought was a very serious issue in a FIRST PERSON SHOOTING game.

This is the issue I raised in the forums with proof below so those of you
will know what the hell it is I am talking about:

The original version of this thread had not degenerated into spam.



Many people were not aware of the issue and the thread served an important
purpose of informing those people of what the issue was.

Funnily enough, when it was clearly demonstrated to them what the issue
was, most of them wanted the issue fixed.

The only purpose served by locking the orginal version of the thread, was
to save Valve from the embarrasment of having a [b]BUG[/b] that may be
difficult from Valve's Point Of View to fix!

Locking threads is not going to make this issue go away, no matter how
much some of you wish it would, or are you all just happy to bury your



heads



in the sand and keep locking threads on this issue in the hopes people



will



just forget about it?

Well the previous [url=




http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=395733]TheO
fficial Crouched Point of View Change Petition Thread[/url] was locked with



no explanation or official announcement whatsoever, although funnily



enough



it was fairly soon after it was clearly demonstrated that there was 400
votes [b]FOR[/b] and 5 Votes [b]AGAINST[/b] and a 95% to 5% ratio of
[b]YES[/b] to [b]NO[/b]Votes which ultimately proved that it almost
everybody but Valve consider this a fairly serious issue.

But here it is again.

If the other thread was locked in error, please unlock it and lock this
one.

If there is an official announcement to be made on the issue, please make
it.

Please do not lock threads for no apparent reason.

Thank You

[b][u][size=4][color=red]The Official Crouched Point of View Change
Petition[/color][/size][/u][/b]

Please Vote in the thread by replying with a post stating Yes or No and
the reason why you feel the change should or should not be made to:

[b][size=2][color=white]Valve, please Change the Crouched Point of View in
Counter-Strike:Source, so it is at the same level as your Models Eye



height



would be

YES or NO and the reason why you feel the change should or should not be
made[/color][/size][/b]

DON'T JUST VIEW THE THREAD, CLICK REPLY AND THEN TYPE YOUR ANSWER
YES or NO

Make sure you give some reason why you agree or disagree why the crouched
POV should be changed, lest some moderators decide to lock the thread



again,



because apparently you are not allowed to provide one word responses to a
tightly defined problem.

[u][b]More Information:[/b][/u]

I think that there is hardly a Counter-Strike:Source player who thinks the
current crouched Point of View ([b]POV[/b]) is fair or even correct.

If you do think it is fair and correct, then I feel you would be in the
minority.



For those of you who are not familiar with the problem, it can be
explained like this:

When you are standing, your POV is as if you are looking out through the
model at the same level your eyes would be on the model.

When you are 

[hlds] Weapon complaints

2006-06-15 Thread Doug Crabtree
I'm getting all sorts of complaints about the weapons in HL2DM now.  Is
there something messed up with the hitboxes?  Only the spray damage and
physics object seem to be the same.  Forget killing anybody with the
ar2,smg1,shotgun.  Is this as designed or is it a WIP?

Thanks,

Doug Crabtree


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RE: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

2006-06-15 Thread Doug Crabtree
I'm getting this error in some maps:

"Attempted to create unknown entity type prop_vehicle_jeep!
Can't init prop_vehicle_jeep"

Was that removed from HL2DM?

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Doug Crabtree


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RE: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

2006-06-15 Thread Doug Crabtree
Nevermind, I deleted the server and reinstalled.  Everything is fine now.
Providers are going to have a time with this one...

Doug Crabtree

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I ran this and am receiving a "Your server is out of date, please update and
restart" type message.  Do I have to delete everything and start over, or is
this error message a glitch?

Doug Crabtree


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RE: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

2006-06-15 Thread Doug Crabtree
I ran this and am receiving a "Your server is out of date, please update and
restart" type message.  Do I have to delete everything and start over, or is
this error message a glitch?

Doug Crabtree


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RE: [hlds] Half-Life 2: Deathmatch update released

2006-06-15 Thread Wayne
Try having to work with him. Like I do, then you might have a point to make
or a gripe.

/me hugs Whisper - for I understand you old son.

Learn to ignore people from the internet, ignore me as well!

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whisper,

no one likes a brain*, smart aleck, smart-ass, walking encyclopedia
giggle
heh


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http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/Update

advance, ameliorate, amend, augment, better, boost, civilize, come around*,
convalesce, correct, cultivate, develop, doctor up*, edit, elevate, emend,
enhance, gain ground*, gain strength, grow better, help, increase, lift,
look up*, make strides, meliorate, mend, perk up*, pick up*, polish,
progress, promote, purify, raise, rally, recover, rectify, recuperate,
refine, reform, revamp, revise, rise, set right*, shape up*, sharpen,
skyrocket*, straighten out*, take off*, touch up*, Update, upgrade

:D

On 6/15/06, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> An update to Half-Life 2: Deathmatch has been released. Run the
> hldsupdatetool to get this update.
>
> This update fixes the healthpack and debris clipping bugs from the
> release earlier today. This update also includes a proper Linux version.
>
>
> The update details from the update earlier today can be found here:
> http://steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=652
>
> (note to self, find a synonym for update :)
> - Alfred
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