date:20070410

RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Chris Barnett

It's not a good idea to install any hacks on your PC no matter how
honourable the experimentyou can never tell if you got rid of them or
not...so  it's too big a gamble the next time you connect to a VAC secured
server...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frag
Sent: 11 April 2007 05:14
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

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I can detect an aimbot with 100 % accuracy in any hl1 mod, With a plugin i
have running.
It's a simple cloaking plugin that makes you invisible to anything but a bot

If you use it make sure to remove the ident_icon above your head or your
teammates will give you away.
They also have an Admin_ESP plugin that lets you see were players are aiming
at with tracer beams.

Aimbots are almost never used in league though. It's the good player with a
simple ESP that you have to watch out for.   I would highly recomend you go
to an insecure server and have a few really good hacks running play a few
rounds with your friends and try to conceil your hack as much as possible
then play a few rounds being totally blatent while recording demos.
Then put the demos up for review for all of your admins to learn how to
better detect hackers.

The biggest thing my clan/server has going for it, Is a very large admin
presence with veteran players of over 4 years of experience in pubs and
league play.  there is no replacement for that.

There will always be hacks & hackers too use them and valve cannot do
anything to stop it EVER.

---Original Message---

From: Adam Sando
Date: 04/10/07 17:50:20
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

The problem we are facing more and more, is that it is becoming almost
impossible to distinguish between really good players and
hackers/cheaters.

Looking at the "features" of the MSX CSS hack, it is designed to be
undetected to the trained eye, meaning its potentially undetectable.

2 examples below:
* Aimbot. Has 2 settings - League and Rager. Use League for undetected
use, and Rager for all out headshots.
* Smooth Aiming - For when you dont want people to know your cheating

The full list is here:
http://www.msxsecurity.com/css.php

This will mean that there is a good chance decent/pro players will be
banned from public servers, as the admins won't know whether they are
cheating or not. The majority of aimbots and aimhacks out there snap
instantly to a persons head, and stay locked on. Looking at the demo
vids of this hack, it is quite fluid and smooth, and matches the
likeliness of what a real player would do with their aiming (i.e.-Never
100% accurate). A close friend of mine has been recently banned for
aimbotting even though he had a group of friends with him watching him
play - all knowing he doesn't hack. Because of his play style, it must
have looked like he was using some sort of hack, when clearly he wasn't.

It's situations like the above that will bring down the median skill
level of public server play, as all the good players will end up sooner
or later being banned for suspected hacking.

On a side note, does anyone know how this hack is initiated? Is it some
sort of game.dll hook or overlay-type app?

Will be interesting to see what Valve have in the works to prevent this
sort of hack.

Regards,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Standring
// Ex0dUs
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:13 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day onemsx have
been running for yearsi wouldnt expect any response from valve,
there never really has been, its down to server admins to do there
jobs...

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From: "Spotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

>I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me
>
> Spotta
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
> Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>
> You mean the BF2 hacks?
>
> Spotta wrote:
>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
>>
>> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that
like
> a
>> fair game just give up now?
>>
>>
>>
>> Spotta
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread frag

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I can detect an aimbot with 100 % accuracy in any hl1 mod, With a plugin i
have running.
It's a simple cloaking plugin that makes you invisible to anything but a bot

If you use it make sure to remove the ident_icon above your head or your
teammates will give you away.
They also have an Admin_ESP plugin that lets you see were players are aiming
at with tracer beams.

Aimbots are almost never used in league though. It's the good player with a
simple ESP that you have to watch out for.   I would highly recomend you go
to an insecure server and have a few really good hacks running play a few
rounds with your friends and try to conceil your hack as much as possible
then play a few rounds being totally blatent while recording demos.
Then put the demos up for review for all of your admins to learn how to
better detect hackers.

The biggest thing my clan/server has going for it, Is a very large admin
presence with veteran players of over 4 years of experience in pubs and
league play.  there is no replacement for that.

There will always be hacks & hackers too use them and valve cannot do
anything to stop it EVER.

---Original Message---

From: Adam Sando
Date: 04/10/07 17:50:20
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

The problem we are facing more and more, is that it is becoming almost
impossible to distinguish between really good players and
hackers/cheaters.

Looking at the "features" of the MSX CSS hack, it is designed to be
undetected to the trained eye, meaning its potentially undetectable.

2 examples below:
* Aimbot. Has 2 settings - League and Rager. Use League for undetected
use, and Rager for all out headshots.
* Smooth Aiming - For when you dont want people to know your cheating

The full list is here:
http://www.msxsecurity.com/css.php

This will mean that there is a good chance decent/pro players will be
banned from public servers, as the admins won't know whether they are
cheating or not. The majority of aimbots and aimhacks out there snap
instantly to a persons head, and stay locked on. Looking at the demo
vids of this hack, it is quite fluid and smooth, and matches the
likeliness of what a real player would do with their aiming (i.e.-Never
100% accurate). A close friend of mine has been recently banned for
aimbotting even though he had a group of friends with him watching him
play - all knowing he doesn't hack. Because of his play style, it must
have looked like he was using some sort of hack, when clearly he wasn't.

It's situations like the above that will bring down the median skill
level of public server play, as all the good players will end up sooner
or later being banned for suspected hacking.

On a side note, does anyone know how this hack is initiated? Is it some
sort of game.dll hook or overlay-type app?

Will be interesting to see what Valve have in the works to prevent this
sort of hack.

Regards,
Adam.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Standring
// Ex0dUs
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:13 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day onemsx have
been running for yearsi wouldnt expect any response from valve,
there never really has been, its down to server admins to do there
jobs...

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From: "Spotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

>I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me
>
> Spotta
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
> Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>
> You mean the BF2 hacks?
>
> Spotta wrote:
>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
>>
>> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that
like
> a
>> fair game just give up now?
>>
>>
>>
>> Spotta
>>
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread FS

I think anyone who installs that piece de crap is foolish and will likely
get what they deserve - if not from this outfit, then from another.  Take
the time to read their terms of service.  Essentially, by installing the MSX
cheat app, you agree that they can have full and complete access to your PC
- back-doored through their software, I expect - and they are free to rape
and pillage your file system to their hearts content.  AND - you pay them to
do it.

What cajones!

Frazer



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M. Frain
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:28 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

At least they want people to pay, that may decrease the number of people
using their cheats.
I really like this comment I saw on the website "Please note that by
purchasing you have agreed to our terms of service, and are certifying that
by purchasing you are NOT a member of any party which would have a intrest
in causing negative action to MSXSecurity.com" Does making sure they uphold
the law and adhere to the particular games uela count as a negative action?



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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

Lol

Link to vids
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=msxsecurity&search=Search
Link to site http://www.msxsecurity.com/

Spotta



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Sent: 10 April 2007 15:40
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

www.youtube.com



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RE: [hlds] Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon)

2007-04-10 Thread FS

Hi Pawel...

I have uploaded the console application again to my web site - you can
download it from:

http://gearbox.oathill.com/cbb/files/16/ogswatcher/entry208.aspx


It's been a while since I have used this but it should work.  Note, its
SRCDS only.

If my day job every relents, I hope to get some SOAP/XML web services
available for srcds and hlds that do rcon, query and other stuff.

Never enough time in the day - but I haven't given up.


Frazer





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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 6:47 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon)

Thanks but it's not really what I'm looking for I need a command line tool
to run commands remotely on my server. It can be a php or perl script too
but it must support rcon password ip,port and command execution as well for
HL2 based games.


Regards
Pawel Dabrowski
South African Internet eXchange

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Sent: 08 April 2007 11:32
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon)

Not too sure about OGSRcon being around anymore but he has a new program
people are very fond ofhere's the link hope it helps you!

http://gearbox.oathill.com/cbb/

BeNt

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 3:48 AM
Subject: [hlds] Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon)


> Hi
>
> I'm looking for a windows command line based rcon tool. I see there is one
> called ogsrcon but am unable to find a download for it. Can someone point
> me
> to a link please or to a similar tool.
>
> Regards
> Pawel Dabrowski
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Brian M. Frain

At least they want people to pay, that may decrease the number of people
using their cheats.
I really like this comment I saw on the website "Please note that by
purchasing you have agreed to our terms of service, and are certifying that
by purchasing you are NOT a member of any party which would have a intrest
in causing negative action to MSXSecurity.com" Does making sure they uphold
the law and adhere to the particular games uela count as a negative action?



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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:07 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

Lol

Link to vids
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=msxsecurity&search=Search
Link to site http://www.msxsecurity.com/

Spotta



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Sent: 10 April 2007 15:40
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www.youtube.com



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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Sando

The problem we are facing more and more, is that it is becoming almost
impossible to distinguish between really good players and
hackers/cheaters.

Looking at the "features" of the MSX CSS hack, it is designed to be
undetected to the trained eye, meaning its potentially undetectable.

2 examples below:
* Aimbot. Has 2 settings - League and Rager. Use League for undetected
use, and Rager for all out headshots.
* Smooth Aiming - For when you dont want people to know your cheating

The full list is here:
http://www.msxsecurity.com/css.php

This will mean that there is a good chance decent/pro players will be
banned from public servers, as the admins won't know whether they are
cheating or not. The majority of aimbots and aimhacks out there snap
instantly to a persons head, and stay locked on. Looking at the demo
vids of this hack, it is quite fluid and smooth, and matches the
likeliness of what a real player would do with their aiming (i.e.-Never
100% accurate). A close friend of mine has been recently banned for
aimbotting even though he had a group of friends with him watching him
play - all knowing he doesn't hack. Because of his play style, it must
have looked like he was using some sort of hack, when clearly he wasn't.

It's situations like the above that will bring down the median skill
level of public server play, as all the good players will end up sooner
or later being banned for suspected hacking.

On a side note, does anyone know how this hack is initiated? Is it some
sort of game.dll hook or overlay-type app?

Will be interesting to see what Valve have in the works to prevent this
sort of hack.

Regards,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Standring
// Ex0dUs
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:13 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day onemsx have
been running for yearsi wouldnt expect any response from valve,
there never really has been, its down to server admins to do there
jobs...

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From: "Spotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

>I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me
>
> Spotta
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
> Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>
> You mean the BF2 hacks?
>
> Spotta wrote:
>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
>>
>> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that
like
> a
>> fair game just give up now?
>>
>>
>>
>> Spotta
>>
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Mikie

Valve needs to make a GUI admin console with screen captures.

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Kristjansson
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

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How do we server admins do our jobs when it comes to hacks?
I have at least one regular player on my server that people are
complaining about.
How can I tell if he's just really good or if he's using an aimbot?
I running a HL2DM server.



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Chris Standring // Ex0dUs wrote:
> Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day onemsx have
> been
> running for yearsi wouldnt expect any response from valve, there
> never
> really has been, its down to server admins to do there jobs...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>
>
>> I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me
>>
>> Spotta
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
>> Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>>
>> You mean the BF2 hacks?
>>
>> Spotta wrote:
>>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>>> --
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>>> Hi All
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
>>>
>>> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that
>>> like
>> a
>>> fair game just give up now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Spotta
>>>
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Edward Luna

Oh... that's how it works?  No wonder I've never been able to use a search 
engine. :)

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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:02 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

You are right, some websites are hard to understand, I will help you with a
small guide:

1. Open your favorite internet browser and enter "www.youtube.com" in the
address field. Don't forget to hit enter.
2. Wait some time, you will see a page in less than a hour.
3. Try to understand how the webpage could work.
4. Remember, you want to "find" something, a good starter could be the
search box and the search button in the upper right corner of this website.
We will try...
5. Now we need some keywords to find what we are searching for. No, "britney
spears naked" are not good keywords in this case.
6. Remember, the previous guy wrote something about "msx" and maybe also
something about "hack".
7. Now enter "msx hack" into the search box and hit the search button.
8. After some time (less than a hour), you will see a new page with video
results displayed in the middle of website.
9. We are very close! Just click onto one of these big underlined video
names.
10. If you did step 9 right, a new website will be displayed after some time
(less than a hour).
11. A video should start automaticly after the page is displayed, if not
click on the picture in the middle of the website. That's it.
12. To view other videos, just use the go back function of your browser.

I know, youtube has many possibilities to click, but if you follow this
guide, I am sure everyone is able to find the videos.

Best regards

Ronny

>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> About as useful as tits on a bull.
>
> On 4/11/07, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > www.youtube.com
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
> > >
> > > On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on
youtube.
> > > >
> > > > Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should
those of us
> > that
> > like
> > > > a
> > > > fair game just give up now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Edward Luna

Search for msx... it's there.

-Original Message-
From: Whisper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:52 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
About as useful as tits on a bull.

On 4/11/07, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> www.youtube.com
>
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
> >
> > On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
> > >
> > > Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us
> that
> like
> > > a
> > > fair game just give up now?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Spotta
> > >
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Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5311 - 3 msgs

2007-04-10 Thread eric gisse

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On 4/10/07, chumly chumly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Funny how you all had to quote the entire mailing list to send
> that...Please clean up your messages before posting.> From: "eric gisse" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --> It is more of an issue of stupid people will
> always be stupid.> > On 4/9/07, Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >
> That's why you should browse their forums as you would have known this> >
> before hand.> >
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929> >> > Why
> people STILL give out their info even when told NOT to is beyond me.> > If
> someone messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a> >
> familiar> > name, would you?


Shit, people still use hotmail?

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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Father dougal

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
maybe those awful adverts might get there heads out there arses and they
might update VAC on a regular basis. then again we can only dream

On 10/04/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's why I didn't include a link in my original email
>
> But typing msxsecurity into the youtube search box was beyond some people,
> and being as I was asked too, I then included them.
> This is also a server admin list and all server admins should be aware of
> such things.
>
> The msx site makes me really sad as a player. Undetectable and even a
> status
> link on the main page to let you know that they are still undetectable and
> a
> guarantee that if they become detectable - they will provide you with a
> new
> hack asap
>
> Is it really worth practicing and getting your skill level up / and then
> seeing how good you are online with this sort of crap about?
> Why bother...
>
> Spotta
>
> And I still think a reply from Valve about what they are doing to stop
> this
> crap is in order.
>
>
>
> >>Though I'm not exactly sure talking about cheats or LINKING to them on
> this
> >>mailing list is the best of ideas (not directed to you but to everyone).
>
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Spotta

That's why I didn't include a link in my original email

But typing msxsecurity into the youtube search box was beyond some people,
and being as I was asked too, I then included them.
This is also a server admin list and all server admins should be aware of
such things.

The msx site makes me really sad as a player. Undetectable and even a status
link on the main page to let you know that they are still undetectable and a
guarantee that if they become detectable - they will provide you with a new
hack asap

Is it really worth practicing and getting your skill level up / and then
seeing how good you are online with this sort of crap about?
Why bother...

Spotta

And I still think a reply from Valve about what they are doing to stop this
crap is in order.



>>Though I'm not exactly sure talking about cheats or LINKING to them on
this
>>mailing list is the best of ideas (not directed to you but to everyone).




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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread John

The problem I am having is a cheat site as set there eyes on my
servers. They come in then all of a sudden you try to ban them and you
ban another admin instead they change there names and steam addresses.
Most of there steam ids start with 777 or 77 and I ban them and they
come right back. I ban there ip's and they are back again not sure
what to do

On 4/10/07, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It should be pretty easy to tell.  If his view snaps onto an enemy's head or
body (through a wall without any prior knowledge of anybody being there)
like nobody's business, it's probably safe to assume he's cheating.  The
best evidence is to observe for a while.

Though I'm not exactly sure talking about cheats or LINKING to them on this
mailing list is the best of ideas (not directed to you but to everyone).

On 4/10/07, Valdimar Kristjansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> How do we server admins do our jobs when it comes to hacks?
> I have at least one regular player on my server that people are
> complaining about.
> How can I tell if he's just really good or if he's using an aimbot?
> I running a HL2DM server.
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Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5311 - 3 msgs

2007-04-10 Thread chad


I agree, I would rather have 10 years of emails below a message than one
unreadable email.

Cc2iscooL wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Funny how your message doesn't even go in the correct thread, also, I can
barely read it because your quoting system is terrible (known issue with
Hotmail I believe.)

On 4/10/07, chumly chumly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Funny how you all had to quote the entire mailing list to send
that...Please clean up your messages before posting.> From: "eric gisse" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --> It is more of an issue of stupid people will
always be stupid.> > On 4/9/07, Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >
That's why you should browse their forums as you would have known this> >
before hand.> >
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929> >> > Why
people STILL give out their info even when told NOT to is beyond me.> > If
someone messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a> >
familiar> > name, would you?
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Shawn

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It should be pretty easy to tell.  If his view snaps onto an enemy's head or
body (through a wall without any prior knowledge of anybody being there)
like nobody's business, it's probably safe to assume he's cheating.  The
best evidence is to observe for a while.

Though I'm not exactly sure talking about cheats or LINKING to them on this
mailing list is the best of ideas (not directed to you but to everyone).


On 4/10/07, Valdimar Kristjansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> How do we server admins do our jobs when it comes to hacks?
> I have at least one regular player on my server that people are
> complaining about.
> How can I tell if he's just really good or if he's using an aimbot?
> I running a HL2DM server.
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread chad

WOW so it is really that easy, why did you hold out on telling us until now?

Ronny Schedel wrote:

You are right, some websites are hard to understand, I will help you with a
small guide:

1. Open your favorite internet browser and enter "www.youtube.com" in the
address field. Don't forget to hit enter.
2. Wait some time, you will see a page in less than a hour.
3. Try to understand how the webpage could work.
4. Remember, you want to "find" something, a good starter could be the
search box and the search button in the upper right corner of this website.
We will try...
5. Now we need some keywords to find what we are searching for. No, "britney
spears naked" are not good keywords in this case.
6. Remember, the previous guy wrote something about "msx" and maybe also
something about "hack".
7. Now enter "msx hack" into the search box and hit the search button.
8. After some time (less than a hour), you will see a new page with video
results displayed in the middle of website.
9. We are very close! Just click onto one of these big underlined video
names.
10. If you did step 9 right, a new website will be displayed after some time
(less than a hour).
11. A video should start automaticly after the page is displayed, if not
click on the picture in the middle of the website. That's it.
12. To view other videos, just use the go back function of your browser.

I know, youtube has many possibilities to click, but if you follow this
guide, I am sure everyone is able to find the videos.

Best regards

Ronny

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
About as useful as tits on a bull.

On 4/11/07, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> www.youtube.com
>
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
> >
> > On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

> > >
> > > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on

youtube.

> > >
> > > Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should

those of us

> that
> like
> > > a
> > > fair game just give up now?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [hlds] friends list warning!!!!!

2007-04-10 Thread chad


The average IQ is defined by the test you take, and so is the standard
deviation of the test, they normalize the score when someone takes it to
show how many standard deviations from the mean IQ (usually 100) they are.

Cc2iscooL wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Eh, we're all idiots in some respect. Even the smartest men or women on the
planet can't possibly know everything, and I'm sure even Albert Einstein
himself fell for some scams in his time. We've all been screwed before, but
we learn from our mistakes (well, at least some of us do ;) ) so we do get
better...slowly...but then of course more people are being born every
second, so I guess that lowers it. I'd be interested to see what the average
IQ of the world is. That would be a very interesting statistic.

On 4/10/07, chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to
produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."

Whisper wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You can never make a system idiot proof. They will merely build a better
idiot! :)

On 4/10/07, eric gisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It is more of an issue of stupid people will always be stupid.

On 4/9/07, Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



That's why you should browse their forums as you would have known this
before hand.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929

Why people STILL give out their info even when told NOT to is beyond


me.


If someone messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a
familiar
name, would you?
COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!
- Original Message -
From: "Chad Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] friends list warning!





It is a phishing expidition, and I fell for it via the person


claiming


to



be
a Valve admin.  Never again.





From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] friends list warning!
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 18:59:38 -0700

I got the request about a month ago followed by a phishing attempt.



They



purported to be from Valve and wanted to confirm my password. I


asked


them



for their STEAM_ID so I could report them to Valve.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [xXx] con
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:46 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] friends list warning!


it has been reported to me that players have been adding themselves


to


your
friends list and somehow stealing the accounts
i am also seeing many ppl suddenly trying to add me to their friends



list



1 members account has already been stolen this way


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5307 - 4 msgs





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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:16:06 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: "frag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] odd exploit?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Go and download this plugin  anti_steamID_pending
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=10456  It will work



for



all



Hl1mods.:)

---Original Message---

From: RMaioroff
Date: 04/07/07 20:41:29
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] odd exploit?

I just googled "steam id exploit" and found several references to



this



type



of exploit from back in 2004. Perhaps it's back again? If you dig



deep



enough you will find a few discussions on how they can be STEAM_ID



Pending



for awhile, and then basically manufacture a new ID on the fly.

Anyways, good luck with this. Thankfully we've yet to see it hit



our



Garry's



Mod servers. *Crosses fingers*

Rob


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Affordablegameservers.com
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:50 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] odd exploit?

Anyone know of an exploit for source that allows you to come in as
oth

Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Whisper

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Yes a very clever response

Now if I actually wanted to inform people of something, I wouldn't make a
vague reference to it, and then mention in passing that its on You Tube
somewhere, which is about as useful as saying, its on the Internet.

BTW Ronny, I have a problem with my server, please fix it, it's in the STEAM
Server browser. Thanks

On 4/11/07, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are right, some websites are hard to understand, I will help you with
> a
> small guide:
>
> 1. Open your favorite internet browser and enter "www.youtube.com" in the
> address field. Don't forget to hit enter.
> 2. Wait some time, you will see a page in less than a hour.
> 3. Try to understand how the webpage could work.
> 4. Remember, you want to "find" something, a good starter could be the
> search box and the search button in the upper right corner of this
> website.
> We will try...
> 5. Now we need some keywords to find what we are searching for. No,
> "britney
> spears naked" are not good keywords in this case.
> 6. Remember, the previous guy wrote something about "msx" and maybe also
> something about "hack".
> 7. Now enter "msx hack" into the search box and hit the search button.
> 8. After some time (less than a hour), you will see a new page with video
> results displayed in the middle of website.
> 9. We are very close! Just click onto one of these big underlined video
> names.
> 10. If you did step 9 right, a new website will be displayed after some
> time
> (less than a hour).
> 11. A video should start automaticly after the page is displayed, if not
> click on the picture in the middle of the website. That's it.
> 12. To view other videos, just use the go back function of your browser.
>
> I know, youtube has many possibilities to click, but if you follow this
> guide, I am sure everyone is able to find the videos.
>
> Best regards
>
> Ronny
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > About as useful as tits on a bull.
> >
> > On 4/11/07, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > www.youtube.com
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
> > > >
> > > > On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> > > > > --
> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > > Hi All
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on
> youtube.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should
> those of us
> > > that
> > > like
> > > > > a
> > > > > fair game just give up now?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Spotta
> > > > >
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Valdimar Kristjansson

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How do we server admins do our jobs when it comes to hacks?
I have at least one regular player on my server that people are
complaining about.
How can I tell if he's just really good or if he's using an aimbot?
I running a HL2DM server.



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Chris Standring // Ex0dUs wrote:
> Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day onemsx have
> been
> running for yearsi wouldnt expect any response from valve, there
> never
> really has been, its down to server admins to do there jobs...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>
>
>> I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me
>>
>> Spotta
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
>> Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?
>>
>> You mean the BF2 hacks?
>>
>> Spotta wrote:
>>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>>> --
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>>> Hi All
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
>>>
>>> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that
>>> like
>> a
>>> fair game just give up now?
>>>
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Ronny Schedel

You are right, some websites are hard to understand, I will help you with a
small guide:

1. Open your favorite internet browser and enter "www.youtube.com" in the
address field. Don't forget to hit enter.
2. Wait some time, you will see a page in less than a hour.
3. Try to understand how the webpage could work.
4. Remember, you want to "find" something, a good starter could be the
search box and the search button in the upper right corner of this website.
We will try...
5. Now we need some keywords to find what we are searching for. No, "britney
spears naked" are not good keywords in this case.
6. Remember, the previous guy wrote something about "msx" and maybe also
something about "hack".
7. Now enter "msx hack" into the search box and hit the search button.
8. After some time (less than a hour), you will see a new page with video
results displayed in the middle of website.
9. We are very close! Just click onto one of these big underlined video
names.
10. If you did step 9 right, a new website will be displayed after some time
(less than a hour).
11. A video should start automaticly after the page is displayed, if not
click on the picture in the middle of the website. That's it.
12. To view other videos, just use the go back function of your browser.

I know, youtube has many possibilities to click, but if you follow this
guide, I am sure everyone is able to find the videos.

Best regards

Ronny

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> About as useful as tits on a bull.
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> > > Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
> > >
> > > On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > > Hi All
> > > >
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> > > >
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youtube.
> > > >
> > > > Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should
those of us
> > that
> > like
> > > > a
> > > > fair game just give up now?
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Chris Standring // Ex0dUs


Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day onemsx have been
running for yearsi wouldnt expect any response from valve, there never
really has been, its down to server admins to do there jobs...

- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?



I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me

Spotta

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

You mean the BF2 hacks?

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Hi All



I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.

Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that like

a

fair game just give up now?



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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Rob Poe


*sigh*

Yup.

Spotta wrote:

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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread tsuehpsyde

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Also:

http://www.wkccp.com/1.html

http://www.youtube.com/v/35o1fPDhl1E

Gotta love the noobs.

-tsue

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> http://www.msxsecurity.com/
>
> As well as youtube, just google MSX
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVR12raqVA
>
> On 4/10/07, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > www.youtube.com
> >
> > >
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> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
> > >
> > > On 4/10/07, Spotta  wrote:
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> > > > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> > > > --
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> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
> > > >
> > > > Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us
> > that
> > like
> > > > a
> > > > fair game just give up now?
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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Spotta

I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me

Spotta

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

You mean the BF2 hacks?

Spotta wrote:
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> --
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> Hi All
>
>
>
> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
>
> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that like
a
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[hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5312 - 6 msgs

2007-04-10 Thread chumly chumly

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RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Spotta

Lol

Link to vids
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=msxsecurity&search=Search
Link to site http://www.msxsecurity.com/

Spotta



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www.youtube.com



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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread tsuehpsyde

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http://www.msxsecurity.com/

As well as youtube, just google MSX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVR12raqVA

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> > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
> > >
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> like
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Rob Poe


You mean the BF2 hacks?

Spotta wrote:

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I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.

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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Whisper

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About as useful as tits on a bull.

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> >
> > On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Hi All
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> > > I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.
> > >
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> that
> like
> > > a
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Ronny Schedel

www.youtube.com

>
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> Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?
>
> On 4/10/07, Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Whisper

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Care to provide links to these You Tube videos?

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[hlds] Is it worth playing anymore?

2007-04-10 Thread Spotta

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Hi All



I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube.

Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that like a
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Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5311 - 3 msgs

2007-04-10 Thread Cc2iscooL

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Funny how your message doesn't even go in the correct thread, also, I can
barely read it because your quoting system is terrible (known issue with
Hotmail I believe.)

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> that...Please clean up your messages before posting.> From: "eric gisse" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --> It is more of an issue of stupid people will
> always be stupid.> > On 4/9/07, Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >
> That's why you should browse their forums as you would have known this> >
> before hand.> >
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929> >> > Why
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> someone messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a> >
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Re: [hlds] friends list warning!!!!!

2007-04-10 Thread Cc2iscooL

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Eh, we're all idiots in some respect. Even the smartest men or women on the
planet can't possibly know everything, and I'm sure even Albert Einstein
himself fell for some scams in his time. We've all been screwed before, but
we learn from our mistakes (well, at least some of us do ;) ) so we do get
better...slowly...but then of course more people are being born every
second, so I guess that lowers it. I'd be interested to see what the average
IQ of the world is. That would be a very interesting statistic.

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> >> It is more of an issue of stupid people will always be stupid.
> >>
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> >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929
> >>>
> >>> Why people STILL give out their info even when told NOT to is beyond
> me.
> >>> If someone messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a
> >>> familiar
> >>> name, would you?
> >>> COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Chad Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:04 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: [hlds] friends list warning!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  It is a phishing expidition, and I fell for it via the person
> claiming
> 
> >>> to
> >>>
>  be
>  a Valve admin.  Never again.
> 
> 
> 
> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > To: 
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] friends list warning!
> > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 18:59:38 -0700
> >
> > I got the request about a month ago followed by a phishing attempt.
> >
> >> They
> >>
> > purported to be from Valve and wanted to confirm my password. I
> asked
> >
> >>> them
> >>>
> > for their STEAM_ID so I could report them to Valve.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [xXx] con
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:46 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: [hlds] friends list warning!
> >
> >
> > it has been reported to me that players have been adding themselves
> to
> > your
> > friends list and somehow stealing the accounts
> > i am also seeing many ppl suddenly trying to add me to their friends
> >
> >>> list
> >>>
> > 1 members account has already been stolen this way
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:27 AM
> > Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5307 - 4 msgs
> >
> >
> >
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> >>
> >>1. RE: odd exploit? (frag)
> >>2. Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon) (Pawel
> >>
> >> Dabrowski)
> >>
> >>3. Re: Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon) ([GS]Admin)
> >>4. RE: Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon) (Pawel
> >>
> > Dabrowski)
> >
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> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:16:06 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
> >> From: "frag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Subject: RE: [hlds] odd exploit?
> >> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> Go and download this plugin  anti_steamID_pending
> >> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=10456  It will work
> >>
> >> for
> >>
> > all
> >
> >> Hl1mods.:)
> >>
> >> ---Original Message---
> >>
> >> From: RMaioroff
> >> Date: 04/07/07 20:41:29
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: RE: [hlds] odd exploit?
> >>
> >> I just googled "steam

[hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5311 - 3 msgs

2007-04-10 Thread chumly chumly

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Funny how you all had to quote the entire mailing list to send that...Please 
clean up your messages before posting.> From: "eric gisse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> --> It is more of an issue of stupid people will always be stupid.> > On 
4/9/07, Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > That's why you should browse 
their forums as you would have known this> > before hand.> > 
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929> >> > Why people 
STILL give out their info even when told NOT to is beyond me.> > If someone 
messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a> > familiar> > name, 
would you?
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Re: [hlds] friends list warning!!!!!

2007-04-10 Thread chad


“Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to
produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.”

Whisper wrote:

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You can never make a system idiot proof. They will merely build a better
idiot! :)

On 4/10/07, eric gisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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It is more of an issue of stupid people will always be stupid.

On 4/9/07, Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That's why you should browse their forums as you would have known this
before hand.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470929

Why people STILL give out their info even when told NOT to is beyond me.
If someone messaged you & told you to rob someone & they had used a
familiar
name, would you?
COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!
- Original Message -
From: "Chad Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] friends list warning!




It is a phishing expidition, and I fell for it via the person claiming


to


be
a Valve admin.  Never again.




From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] friends list warning!
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 18:59:38 -0700

I got the request about a month ago followed by a phishing attempt.


They


purported to be from Valve and wanted to confirm my password. I asked


them


for their STEAM_ID so I could report them to Valve.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [xXx] con
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:46 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] friends list warning!


it has been reported to me that players have been adding themselves to
your
friends list and somehow stealing the accounts
i am also seeing many ppl suddenly trying to add me to their friends


list


1 members account has already been stolen this way


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5307 - 4 msgs




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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: odd exploit? (frag)
   2. Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon) (Pawel


Dabrowski)


   3. Re: Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon) ([GS]Admin)
   4. RE: Command line rcon for windows. (like ogsrcon) (Pawel


Dabrowski)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:16:06 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: "frag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] odd exploit?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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Go and download this plugin  anti_steamID_pending
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=10456  It will work


for


all


Hl1mods.:)

---Original Message---

From: RMaioroff
Date: 04/07/07 20:41:29
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] odd exploit?

I just googled "steam id exploit" and found several references to


this


type


of exploit from back in 2004. Perhaps it's back again? If you dig


deep


enough you will find a few discussions on how they can be STEAM_ID


Pending


for awhile, and then basically manufacture a new ID on the fly.

Anyways, good luck with this. Thankfully we've yet to see it hit


our


Garry's


Mod servers. *Crosses fingers*

Rob


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Affordablegameservers.com
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:50 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] odd exploit?

Anyone know of an exploit for source that allows you to come in as
other
users/ips/steamids?

This makes it pretty impossibly to ban him and all you end up doing


is


banning another person.

This a new nasty im not aware of any way to combat that?

Heres his psychostats sheet (a lot of the ips on there belong to


people


that


were playing at the time as did the steamids and names heh)




http://stats.affordablegameservers.com/diamond/player.php?id=70&ps_sess_id=4


800c0c11b6b3858d8d207175c437597

Tia
dex




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