Re: [hlds] Server Key
I personally don't want people connecting to my servers via IP's or hostnames. I would like to see search_key become a little more friendly, but I think that is *the best* way to connect to steam community servers. I have 8 servers for our community, I don't want them having to force_dedicated_server because what if that's full? All 8 are configured identically, you should just have to automatically pick an available one.. I think forcing people to connect directly to one is bad -- let the computer do it, that's what it's for. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Tony Paloma wrote: > I'm going to agree with msleeper here. I don't want to hear you whine about > how search key and the force dedicated cvars aren't enough for you. I'll > also agree with you that some integrated GUI stuff would be nice, but this > really isn't the place for it. > > If people can't find your servers using them or if you don't know how to set > them up on your server, fine, send email. This is for server discussions, > not for OMG-VALVE-THIS-IS-WHY-YOUR-GAME-SUCKS discussions. Valve set up SPUF > for that. > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:07 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > I have only been actively posting since ~last year, but I appreciate it > either way. But this also seems like a personal problem not suited for > the list, and should be posted about on steampowered. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 17:02 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: >> Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're > why I left. Yes you, specifically. >> I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the > decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. >> >> > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> > >> > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't >> > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: >> > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me > from doing it. >> > > What's your point? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 >> > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com >> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> > > > >> > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on > this list >> > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. >> > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run > many >> > > > > servers in the past with no issue. >> > > > > >> > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI > options - >> > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible > while in a >> > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. >> > > > > >> > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept > my lobby >> > > > > reservation are separate. >> > > > > >> > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff > works >> > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed > to. Why >> > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. > Why can't >> > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like > something >> > > > > > that should be important to figure out. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby > leader, >> > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers > are full >> > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the > direct >> > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as > the >> > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key > and/or >> > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and > if it is >> > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work > with >> > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make > sense >> > > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > playing. >> > > > > > If you want to do that, th
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
Hi, Was trying to restart my L4D2 server and it started downloading the l4d2 demo content.. Checked the srcds_run script and saw: if test "$GAME" = "left4dead2"; then DEPOT_NAME="left4dead2_demo"; fi I changed that back to left2dead2 and it seems to all be working again, is this intentional? Thanks 2009/11/21 Y Smith > 25 minutes since "in about 20 minutes". Extremely impressive for Valve. > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen > Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2009 7:05 AM > To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server > mailing > list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com' > Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released > > A required update for Left 4 Dead 2 is now available. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: > > - Fixed performance problem when rendering lots of decals, notably when > fighting tanks with shotguns > - Fixed rcon response not working on Linux dedicated servers > - Fixed matchmaking problem matching into Advanced and Expert games > - Fix bug that would cause other specials to try to pummel a player a > Charger disconnects or reconnects > - Fixed versus mode results panel being cut off in transition stats screen > in non-english > - Found games: fixed non-player entries drawing the wrong type of icon in > the selected item name label > - Game mode selector on main menu now takes keyboard input > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) ______ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- /** *Craig "FrostyCoolSlug" McLure * ChatSpike- http://www.chatspike.net * InspIRCd - http://www.inspircd.org **/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
25 minutes since "in about 20 minutes". Extremely impressive for Valve. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2009 7:05 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released A required update for Left 4 Dead 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Fixed performance problem when rendering lots of decals, notably when fighting tanks with shotguns - Fixed rcon response not working on Linux dedicated servers - Fixed matchmaking problem matching into Advanced and Expert games - Fix bug that would cause other specials to try to pummel a player a Charger disconnects or reconnects - Fixed versus mode results panel being cut off in transition stats screen in non-english - Found games: fixed non-player entries drawing the wrong type of icon in the selected item name label - Game mode selector on main menu now takes keyboard input Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4627 (20091121) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4627 (20091121) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
A required update for Left 4 Dead 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Fixed performance problem when rendering lots of decals, notably when fighting tanks with shotguns - Fixed rcon response not working on Linux dedicated servers - Fixed matchmaking problem matching into Advanced and Expert games - Fix bug that would cause other specials to try to pummel a player a Charger disconnects or reconnects - Fixed versus mode results panel being cut off in transition stats screen in non-english - Found games: fixed non-player entries drawing the wrong type of icon in the selected item name label - Game mode selector on main menu now takes keyboard input Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Coming
A required update for Left 4 Dead 2 is on the way. It should be live in about 20 minutes. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] File download speeds
Didn't Bram Cohen work for valve for a while? Mike O'Laughlen wrote: > Wouldn't it be cool if Steam supported torrents? > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Mike Vail wrote: > > >> Hey Chris, >> >> Something to be aware of with regard to hosting maps on the typical shared >> hosting services most people use for websites. Nearly every shared hosting >> company has policies that don't allow you to host large quantities of files >> that are downloaded frequently and strain the shared servers they are on. >> Companies typically monitor this stuff with software tools they have and >> will outright cancel you or limit your bandwidth if they catch you doing >> it. >> This is because your downloads will impact the other users on these shared >> boxes, some of which will server hundreds of websites to keep their costs >> down. >> >> I was unaware of this until I found out he hard way with Hostmonster.com. >> After they found me sharing hundreds of maps, sounds, player models, etc, >> they throttled my bandwidth way back and people started taking forever to >> get their downloads. I spent days searching for a new host and chose >> Justhost.com after speaking to their Live-chat to confirm I could host >> files >> for CSS. They said it would be fine but they too threatened to cancel me >> after seeing the high volume of downloads I had. >> >> My community hosts a couple servers with lots of custom content and we get >> a >> couple hundred new players per day that have to download constantly for >> Gungame. We have our own dedicated Windows 2008 server box with a ton of >> bandwidth. What I ended up doing was moving all my CSS content files to the >> same server box as my games and created my own http download site from the >> same box my games are on using IIS. I no longer need to depend on a 3rd >> party for my CSS http service, management of my stuff is now easier and >> there are no limits to what I can host. As far as download speeds, they are >> faster on my own box than the shared hosting I was using and the downloads >> have absolutely no affect on the 6 gameservers I'm running on the box. I >> encourage anyone to try it. It works great for us and I've been doing this >> for over a year without a hitch. >> >> Take care, >> Mike Vail >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Blood Letter >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:27 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] File download speeds >> >> >> Not that I know of, unfortunately. >> Just about any http redirect will be better than serving through the server >> - just grab some free/cheap hosting. >> If you own the box, just throw up a free FTP server on it and point it to >> the same dir as the server itself, and then give it it's own subdomain >> (ftp.serverip). >> >> >>> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:42 +1100 >>> From: chris_holma...@yahoo.com.au >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>> Subject: [hlds] File download speeds >>> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> As I'm sure we're all aware, by default SRCDS puts a speed limit on >>> downloads when clients are downloading maps, mods, textures, whatever, >>> from the server when they connect. I'm also sure we're all aware that >>> we can use a HTTP/FTP redirect to allow fast downloads, but I'm >>> curious if there is a way to get faster download speeds without having >>> to set up a mirror - ie, can the artificial speed limit srcds imposes >>> be bypassed by, say, a cvar or sourcemod plugin? >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Chris >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> >> please visit: >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> _ >> Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247 >> 27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4626 (20091120) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature dat
Re: [hlds] File download speeds
Yeah, until we end up having no/few seeders and tons of leachers... On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Mike O'Laughlen wrote: > Wouldn't it be cool if Steam supported torrents? > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Mike Vail wrote: > >> Hey Chris, >> >> Something to be aware of with regard to hosting maps on the typical shared >> hosting services most people use for websites. Nearly every shared hosting >> company has policies that don't allow you to host large quantities of files >> that are downloaded frequently and strain the shared servers they are on. >> Companies typically monitor this stuff with software tools they have and >> will outright cancel you or limit your bandwidth if they catch you doing >> it. >> This is because your downloads will impact the other users on these shared >> boxes, some of which will server hundreds of websites to keep their costs >> down. >> >> I was unaware of this until I found out he hard way with Hostmonster.com. >> After they found me sharing hundreds of maps, sounds, player models, etc, >> they throttled my bandwidth way back and people started taking forever to >> get their downloads. I spent days searching for a new host and chose >> Justhost.com after speaking to their Live-chat to confirm I could host >> files >> for CSS. They said it would be fine but they too threatened to cancel me >> after seeing the high volume of downloads I had. >> >> My community hosts a couple servers with lots of custom content and we get >> a >> couple hundred new players per day that have to download constantly for >> Gungame. We have our own dedicated Windows 2008 server box with a ton of >> bandwidth. What I ended up doing was moving all my CSS content files to the >> same server box as my games and created my own http download site from the >> same box my games are on using IIS. I no longer need to depend on a 3rd >> party for my CSS http service, management of my stuff is now easier and >> there are no limits to what I can host. As far as download speeds, they are >> faster on my own box than the shared hosting I was using and the downloads >> have absolutely no affect on the 6 gameservers I'm running on the box. I >> encourage anyone to try it. It works great for us and I've been doing this >> for over a year without a hitch. >> >> Take care, >> Mike Vail >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Blood Letter >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:27 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] File download speeds >> >> >> Not that I know of, unfortunately. >> Just about any http redirect will be better than serving through the server >> - just grab some free/cheap hosting. >> If you own the box, just throw up a free FTP server on it and point it to >> the same dir as the server itself, and then give it it's own subdomain >> (ftp.serverip). >> >> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:42 +1100 >> > From: chris_holma...@yahoo.com.au >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > Subject: [hlds] File download speeds >> > >> > Hey all, >> > >> > As I'm sure we're all aware, by default SRCDS puts a speed limit on >> > downloads when clients are downloading maps, mods, textures, whatever, >> > from the server when they connect. I'm also sure we're all aware that >> > we can use a HTTP/FTP redirect to allow fast downloads, but I'm >> > curious if there is a way to get faster download speeds without having >> > to set up a mirror - ie, can the artificial speed limit srcds imposes >> > be bypassed by, say, a cvar or sourcemod plugin? >> > >> > Thanks >> > -Chris >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _ >> Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247 >> 27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] File download speeds
Wouldn't it be cool if Steam supported torrents? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Mike Vail wrote: > Hey Chris, > > Something to be aware of with regard to hosting maps on the typical shared > hosting services most people use for websites. Nearly every shared hosting > company has policies that don't allow you to host large quantities of files > that are downloaded frequently and strain the shared servers they are on. > Companies typically monitor this stuff with software tools they have and > will outright cancel you or limit your bandwidth if they catch you doing > it. > This is because your downloads will impact the other users on these shared > boxes, some of which will server hundreds of websites to keep their costs > down. > > I was unaware of this until I found out he hard way with Hostmonster.com. > After they found me sharing hundreds of maps, sounds, player models, etc, > they throttled my bandwidth way back and people started taking forever to > get their downloads. I spent days searching for a new host and chose > Justhost.com after speaking to their Live-chat to confirm I could host > files > for CSS. They said it would be fine but they too threatened to cancel me > after seeing the high volume of downloads I had. > > My community hosts a couple servers with lots of custom content and we get > a > couple hundred new players per day that have to download constantly for > Gungame. We have our own dedicated Windows 2008 server box with a ton of > bandwidth. What I ended up doing was moving all my CSS content files to the > same server box as my games and created my own http download site from the > same box my games are on using IIS. I no longer need to depend on a 3rd > party for my CSS http service, management of my stuff is now easier and > there are no limits to what I can host. As far as download speeds, they are > faster on my own box than the shared hosting I was using and the downloads > have absolutely no affect on the 6 gameservers I'm running on the box. I > encourage anyone to try it. It works great for us and I've been doing this > for over a year without a hitch. > > Take care, > Mike Vail > > > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Blood Letter > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:27 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] File download speeds > > > Not that I know of, unfortunately. > Just about any http redirect will be better than serving through the server > - just grab some free/cheap hosting. > If you own the box, just throw up a free FTP server on it and point it to > the same dir as the server itself, and then give it it's own subdomain > (ftp.serverip). > > > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:42 +1100 > > From: chris_holma...@yahoo.com.au > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: [hlds] File download speeds > > > > Hey all, > > > > As I'm sure we're all aware, by default SRCDS puts a speed limit on > > downloads when clients are downloading maps, mods, textures, whatever, > > from the server when they connect. I'm also sure we're all aware that > > we can use a HTTP/FTP redirect to allow fast downloads, but I'm > > curious if there is a way to get faster download speeds without having > > to set up a mirror - ie, can the artificial speed limit srcds imposes > > be bypassed by, say, a cvar or sourcemod plugin? > > > > Thanks > > -Chris > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _ > Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247 > 27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
It is said - "I'm in my own world - *link*" just another spam message 2009/11/21 Alex > anyone speak russian here? > > > Roman S wrote: > > ??? indeed. > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4625 (20091120) __ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4625 (20091120) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
