Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[Rowedahelicon]

Do you have a rough day in mind this week? I'm worried about the winter
storm taking down my power this week and need to know if I have to make
accommodations

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Weasels Lair 
wrote:

> Yep, sorry got that posted before trying disabling SMAC.  Disabled SMAC
> and it worked better!
> Will try Ryan's "smac_validate_auth 0"
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Ryan Stecker 
> wrote:
>
>> smac_validate_auth 0
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Weasels Lair 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PS: More specifically, on a non-BETA TF2 client, trying to connect to
>>> the current BETA TF2 server, the client connects, seems to work for a few
>>> seconds, then throws a dialog with the error:
>>>
>>> "Disconnected" (Title)
>>> "Disconnected: Your client has failed to authorized in time.
>>> Please reconnect or restart your game."
>>>
>>> Restarting the game does not help.  Playing on non-BETA TF2 servers
>>> seems to work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Weasels Lair 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Lately I have not been able to successfully connect from a plain
 (non-Beta) TF2 client to my BETA TF2 server.  Has that functionality been
 broken by a non-beta TF2 client update?

 On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM, John Schoenick <
 jo...@valvesoftware.com> wrote:

> There have been no significant changes after the few fixes mentioned
> here on Day 1 (namely, removing libstdc++ from the install)
>
> On 03/13/2017 02:58 PM, A Fearts wrote:
>
> Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the
> toolchainbeta since you first posted it that we might need to recheck 
> stuff
> or it is all the same?
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick <
> jo...@valvesoftware.com> wrote:
>
>> Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
>> week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
>> works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!
>>
>> - John
>>
>> On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're
>> making good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the
>> TF2+SDK2013 games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with 
>> the
>> other SDK2013 games to follow.
>>
>> There are two things that may affect server administrators that you
>> should be aware of:
>>
>>
>> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>>
>> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For
>> srcds, this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may be
>> available in some server distributions.  Administrators should check that
>> the provided beta still runs in their environment of choice.  Those who 
>> are
>> on older or incompatible distributions have several options:
>>
>> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime,
>> such as Ubuntu LTS
>>
>> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The
>> tools linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be 
>> used
>> for bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>>
>> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
>> linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible 
>> distribution,
>> e.g.:
>>
>> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
>> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
>> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>>
>> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining
>> it can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>>
>>
>> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>>
>> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to
>> a newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while Linux
>> builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing command-line
>> parameters that affect codegen.
>>
>> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or
>> look for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as
>> SourceMod).  We have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and they 
>> are
>> working on supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other mods should 
>> test
>> them against the beta release below.
>>
>> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv
>> naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this, and
>> the separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.
>>
>>
>> *Beta*
>>
>> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes.
>> The remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in 

Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[Weasels Lair]

Yep, sorry got that posted before trying disabling SMAC.  Disabled SMAC and
it worked better!
Will try Ryan's "smac_validate_auth 0"

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Ryan Stecker 
wrote:

> smac_validate_auth 0
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Weasels Lair 
> wrote:
>
>> PS: More specifically, on a non-BETA TF2 client, trying to connect to the
>> current BETA TF2 server, the client connects, seems to work for a few
>> seconds, then throws a dialog with the error:
>>
>> "Disconnected" (Title)
>> "Disconnected: Your client has failed to authorized in time.
>> Please reconnect or restart your game."
>>
>> Restarting the game does not help.  Playing on non-BETA TF2 servers seems
>> to work fine.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Weasels Lair 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lately I have not been able to successfully connect from a plain
>>> (non-Beta) TF2 client to my BETA TF2 server.  Has that functionality been
>>> broken by a non-beta TF2 client update?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM, John Schoenick >> > wrote:
>>>
 There have been no significant changes after the few fixes mentioned
 here on Day 1 (namely, removing libstdc++ from the install)

 On 03/13/2017 02:58 PM, A Fearts wrote:

 Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the
 toolchainbeta since you first posted it that we might need to recheck stuff
 or it is all the same?

 On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick <
 jo...@valvesoftware.com> wrote:

> Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
> week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
> works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!
>
> - John
>
> On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're
> making good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the
> TF2+SDK2013 games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with the
> other SDK2013 games to follow.
>
> There are two things that may affect server administrators that you
> should be aware of:
>
>
> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>
> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For
> srcds, this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may be
> available in some server distributions.  Administrators should check that
> the provided beta still runs in their environment of choice.  Those who 
> are
> on older or incompatible distributions have several options:
>
> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime,
> such as Ubuntu LTS
>
> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The
> tools linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be used
> for bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>
> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
> linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible distribution,
> e.g.:
>
> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>
> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining
> it can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>
>
> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>
> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to a
> newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while Linux
> builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing command-line
> parameters that affect codegen.
>
> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or
> look for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as
> SourceMod).  We have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and they 
> are
> working on supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other mods should 
> test
> them against the beta release below.
>
> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv
> naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this, and
> the separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.
>
>
> *Beta*
>
> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes.
> The remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near future, and we 
> will
> provide a beta for them at that time.
>
> The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release - servers
> may safely convert to it and continue serving both beta and non-beta
> clients.
>
> The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required password.
> It can be accessed with SteamCMD via:
>
> app_upda

Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[Ryan Stecker]

smac_validate_auth 0

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Weasels Lair 
wrote:

> PS: More specifically, on a non-BETA TF2 client, trying to connect to the
> current BETA TF2 server, the client connects, seems to work for a few
> seconds, then throws a dialog with the error:
>
> "Disconnected" (Title)
> "Disconnected: Your client has failed to authorized in time.
> Please reconnect or restart your game."
>
> Restarting the game does not help.  Playing on non-BETA TF2 servers seems
> to work fine.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Weasels Lair 
> wrote:
>
>> Lately I have not been able to successfully connect from a plain
>> (non-Beta) TF2 client to my BETA TF2 server.  Has that functionality been
>> broken by a non-beta TF2 client update?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM, John Schoenick 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There have been no significant changes after the few fixes mentioned
>>> here on Day 1 (namely, removing libstdc++ from the install)
>>>
>>> On 03/13/2017 02:58 PM, A Fearts wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the
>>> toolchainbeta since you first posted it that we might need to recheck stuff
>>> or it is all the same?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick >> > wrote:
>>>
 Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
 week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
 works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!

 - John

 On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:

 Hey everyone,

 Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're
 making good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the
 TF2+SDK2013 games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with the
 other SDK2013 games to follow.

 There are two things that may affect server administrators that you
 should be aware of:


 *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*

 The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For
 srcds, this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may be
 available in some server distributions.  Administrators should check that
 the provided beta still runs in their environment of choice.  Those who are
 on older or incompatible distributions have several options:

 - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime, such
 as Ubuntu LTS

 - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The
 tools linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be used
 for bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.

 - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
 linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible distribution,
 e.g.:

 steamrt=/path/to/runtime
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
 LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
 "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"

 More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining it
 can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime


 *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*

 Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to a
 newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while Linux
 builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing command-line
 parameters that affect codegen.

 This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or
 look for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as
 SourceMod).  We have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and they are
 working on supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other mods should test
 them against the beta release below.

 Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv
 naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this, and
 the separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.


 *Beta*

 We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes.  The
 remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near future, and we will
 provide a beta for them at that time.

 The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release - servers
 may safely convert to it and continue serving both beta and non-beta
 clients.

 The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required password.
 It can be accessed with SteamCMD via:

 app_update 232250 -beta toolchainbeta

 These changes may be promoted to an official release of TF2 as soon as
 next week, so we encourage all server administrators to test their setup
 against the beta before then.


 Let me know if you have any questions or concerns

 - John



 ___

Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[Weasels Lair]

PS: More specifically, on a non-BETA TF2 client, trying to connect to the
current BETA TF2 server, the client connects, seems to work for a few
seconds, then throws a dialog with the error:

"Disconnected" (Title)
"Disconnected: Your client has failed to authorized in time.
Please reconnect or restart your game."

Restarting the game does not help.  Playing on non-BETA TF2 servers seems
to work fine.


On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Weasels Lair 
wrote:

> Lately I have not been able to successfully connect from a plain
> (non-Beta) TF2 client to my BETA TF2 server.  Has that functionality been
> broken by a non-beta TF2 client update?
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM, John Schoenick 
> wrote:
>
>> There have been no significant changes after the few fixes mentioned here
>> on Day 1 (namely, removing libstdc++ from the install)
>>
>> On 03/13/2017 02:58 PM, A Fearts wrote:
>>
>> Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the toolchainbeta
>> since you first posted it that we might need to recheck stuff or it is all
>> the same?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
>>> week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
>>> works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>> On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're
>>> making good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the
>>> TF2+SDK2013 games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with the
>>> other SDK2013 games to follow.
>>>
>>> There are two things that may affect server administrators that you
>>> should be aware of:
>>>
>>>
>>> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>>>
>>> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For
>>> srcds, this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may be
>>> available in some server distributions.  Administrators should check that
>>> the provided beta still runs in their environment of choice.  Those who are
>>> on older or incompatible distributions have several options:
>>>
>>> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime, such
>>> as Ubuntu LTS
>>>
>>> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The tools
>>> linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be used for
>>> bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>>>
>>> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
>>> linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible distribution,
>>> e.g.:
>>>
>>> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
>>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
>>> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
>>> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>>>
>>> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining it
>>> can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>>>
>>>
>>> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>>>
>>> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to a
>>> newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while Linux
>>> builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing command-line
>>> parameters that affect codegen.
>>>
>>> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or look
>>> for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as SourceMod).  We
>>> have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and they are working on
>>> supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other mods should test them
>>> against the beta release below.
>>>
>>> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv
>>> naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this, and
>>> the separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Beta*
>>>
>>> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes.  The
>>> remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near future, and we will
>>> provide a beta for them at that time.
>>>
>>> The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release - servers may
>>> safely convert to it and continue serving both beta and non-beta clients.
>>>
>>> The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required password.  It
>>> can be accessed with SteamCMD via:
>>>
>>> app_update 232250 -beta toolchainbeta
>>>
>>> These changes may be promoted to an official release of TF2 as soon as
>>> next week, so we encourage all server administrators to test their setup
>>> against the beta before then.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> please visit:
>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 

Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[Weasels Lair]

Lately I have not been able to successfully connect from a plain (non-Beta)
TF2 client to my BETA TF2 server.  Has that functionality been broken by a
non-beta TF2 client update?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM, John Schoenick 
wrote:

> There have been no significant changes after the few fixes mentioned here
> on Day 1 (namely, removing libstdc++ from the install)
>
> On 03/13/2017 02:58 PM, A Fearts wrote:
>
> Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the toolchainbeta
> since you first posted it that we might need to recheck stuff or it is all
> the same?
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick 
> wrote:
>
>> Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
>> week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
>> works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!
>>
>> - John
>>
>> On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're making
>> good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the TF2+SDK2013
>> games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with the other
>> SDK2013 games to follow.
>>
>> There are two things that may affect server administrators that you
>> should be aware of:
>>
>>
>> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>>
>> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For srcds,
>> this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may be
>> available in some server distributions.  Administrators should check that
>> the provided beta still runs in their environment of choice.  Those who are
>> on older or incompatible distributions have several options:
>>
>> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime, such
>> as Ubuntu LTS
>>
>> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The tools
>> linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be used for
>> bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>>
>> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
>> linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible distribution,
>> e.g.:
>>
>> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
>> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
>> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>>
>> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining it
>> can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>>
>>
>> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>>
>> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to a
>> newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while Linux
>> builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing command-line
>> parameters that affect codegen.
>>
>> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or look
>> for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as SourceMod).  We
>> have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and they are working on
>> supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other mods should test them
>> against the beta release below.
>>
>> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv
>> naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this, and
>> the separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.
>>
>>
>> *Beta*
>>
>> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes.  The
>> remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near future, and we will
>> provide a beta for them at that time.
>>
>> The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release - servers may
>> safely convert to it and continue serving both beta and non-beta clients.
>>
>> The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required password.  It
>> can be accessed with SteamCMD via:
>>
>> app_update 232250 -beta toolchainbeta
>>
>> These changes may be promoted to an official release of TF2 as soon as
>> next week, so we encourage all server administrators to test their setup
>> against the beta before then.
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns
>>
>> - John
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
>> please visit:
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>
>>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[John Schoenick]

There have been no significant changes after the few fixes mentioned
here on Day 1 (namely, removing libstdc++ from the install)


On 03/13/2017 02:58 PM, A Fearts wrote:
> Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the
> toolchainbeta since you first posted it that we might need to recheck
> stuff or it is all the same?
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick
> mailto:jo...@valvesoftware.com>> wrote:
>
> Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change
> this week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that
> their setup works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly
> surprises!
>
> - John
>
>
> On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back,
>> we're making good on our promise and changing our build
>> toolchains for the TF2+SDK2013 games' dedicated server.  TF2 is
>> being updated first, with the other SDK2013 games to follow.
>>
>> There are two things that may affect server administrators that
>> you should be aware of:
>>
>>
>> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>>
>> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu. 
>> For srcds, this largely means linking against a more recent glibc
>> than may be available in some server distributions. 
>> Administrators should check that the provided beta still runs in
>> their environment of choice.  Those who are on older or
>> incompatible distributions have several options:
>>
>> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam
>> Runtime, such as Ubuntu LTS
>>
>> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds. 
>> The tools linked below include a script for creating a chroot
>> that can be used for bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>>
>> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some
>> dynamic linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an
>> incompatible distribution, e.g.:
>>
>> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
>> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
>> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>>
>> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for
>> obtaining it can be found here:
>> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>> 
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>>
>> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated
>> to a newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools,
>> while Linux builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing
>> command-line parameters that affect codegen.
>>
>> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors
>> or look for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such
>> as SourceMod).  We have separately spoken with the SourceMod team
>> and they are working on supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of
>> other mods should test them against the beta release below.
>>
>> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the
>> _srv naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to
>> adjust this, and the separate _srv build and naming remains
>> unchanged.
>>
>>
>> *Beta*
>>
>> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new
>> changes.  The remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near
>> future, and we will provide a beta for them at that time.
>>
>> The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release -
>> servers may safely convert to it and continue serving both beta
>> and non-beta clients.
>>
>> The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required
>> password.  It can be accessed with SteamCMD via:
>>
>> app_update 232250 -beta toolchainbeta
>>
>> These changes may be promoted to an official release of TF2 as
>> soon as next week, so we encourage all server administrators to
>> test their setup against the beta before then.
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns
>>
>> - John
>>
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Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[A Fearts]

Hey John quick question. Have there been any changes to the toolchainbeta
since you first posted it that we might need to recheck stuff or it is all
the same?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John Schoenick 
wrote:

> Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
> week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
> works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!
>
> - John
>
> On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're making
> good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the TF2+SDK2013
> games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with the other
> SDK2013 games to follow.
>
> There are two things that may affect server administrators that you should
> be aware of:
>
>
> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>
> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For srcds,
> this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may be
> available in some server distributions.  Administrators should check that
> the provided beta still runs in their environment of choice.  Those who are
> on older or incompatible distributions have several options:
>
> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime, such as
> Ubuntu LTS
>
> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The tools
> linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be used for
> bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>
> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
> linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible distribution,
> e.g.:
>
> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>
> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining it
> can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>
>
> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>
> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to a
> newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while Linux
> builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing command-line
> parameters that affect codegen.
>
> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or look
> for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as SourceMod).  We
> have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and they are working on
> supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other mods should test them
> against the beta release below.
>
> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv naming
> of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this, and the
> separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.
>
>
> *Beta*
>
> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes.  The
> remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near future, and we will
> provide a beta for them at that time.
>
> The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release - servers may
> safely convert to it and continue serving both beta and non-beta clients.
>
> The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required password.  It
> can be accessed with SteamCMD via:
>
> app_update 232250 -beta toolchainbeta
>
> These changes may be promoted to an official release of TF2 as soon as
> next week, so we encourage all server administrators to test their setup
> against the beta before then.
>
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns
>
> - John
>
>
>
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Re: [hlds] Heads up - Updated system requirements for TF2 dedicated servers, likely mod breakage - Beta available

[John Schoenick]

Reminder, we plan on releasing a normal update with this change this
week.  Server operators are encouraged to double-check that their setup
works against the toolchainbeta branch to avoid ugly surprises!

- John


On 02/20/2017 02:46 PM, John Schoenick wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Following up on the warning email we sent a long while back, we're
> making good on our promise and changing our build toolchains for the
> TF2+SDK2013 games' dedicated server.  TF2 is being updated first, with
> the other SDK2013 games to follow.
>
> There are two things that may affect server administrators that you
> should be aware of:
>
>
> *The Linux dedicated server now targets the Steam Runtime*
>
> The Steam Runtime is a common runtime target based on Ubuntu.  For
> srcds, this largely means linking against a more recent glibc than may
> be available in some server distributions.  Administrators should
> check that the provided beta still runs in their environment of
> choice.  Those who are on older or incompatible distributions have
> several options:
>
> - Switch to a distribution more compatible with the Steam Runtime,
> such as Ubuntu LTS
>
> - Make use of a chroot/container/VM environment to run srcds.  The
> tools linked below include a script for creating a chroot that can be
> used for bootstrapping Steam Runtime environments.
>
> - Use the Steam Runtime tools linked below combined with some dynamic
> linker magic to use the runtime libraries on an incompatible
> distribution, e.g.:
>
> steamrt=/path/to/runtime
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="bin:$steamrt/usr/lib32"
> LD="$steamrt/usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2"
> "$LD" ./srcds_linux "$@"
>
> More information about the Steam Runtime and utilities for obtaining
> it can be found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>
> *
> *
>
> *The compiler toolchain used for all editions of srcds has changed*
>
> Along with the client builds, all server builds have been updated to a
> newer compiler.  Windows builds now use the MSVC2015 tools, while
> Linux builds now use a newer edition of GCC with differing
> command-line parameters that affect codegen.
>
> This is expected to break mods that expect certain ABI behaviors or
> look for certain signatures in order to hook functions (such as
> SourceMod).  We have separately spoken with the SourceMod team and
> they are working on supporting the new setup.  Maintainers of other
> mods should test them against the beta release below.
>
> Our previous warning also indicated that this would change the _srv
> naming of the linux binaries.  We have decided *not* to adjust this,
> and the separate _srv build and naming remains unchanged.
>
>
> *Beta*
>
> We've made a beta branch available for TF2 with these new changes. 
> The remaining SDK2013 games will be updated in the near future, and we
> will provide a beta for them at that time.
>
> The beta is compatible with the current TF2 public release - servers
> may safely convert to it and continue serving both beta and non-beta
> clients.
>
> The beta branch is titled "toolchainbeta" with no required password. 
> It can be accessed with SteamCMD via:
>
> app_update 232250 -beta toolchainbeta
>
> These changes may be promoted to an official release of TF2 as soon as
> next week, so we encourage all server administrators to test their
> setup against the beta before then.
>
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns
>
> - John
>

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