Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report (Scott Highland)
Yes, the blank mail was an error.. I think I fell asleep with my phone in my hand and off the mail went. Pertaining to VAC, it would be handy to have a revision of how the bans are handled or perhaps handled with more expediency. Although, I understand why game development versus anti-cheating takes precedent. It is too bad we have to have such measure to begin with. Hope everyone had a happy holidays... Speaking of which if I am not mistaking someone claimed in the mailing list, the night I fell asleep with the phone in my hand, that the apostles or such did not learn to write until 64 AD or some such absurdity. It is known that Sumarian writings have been found to be as old, if not older than 2600-2800 BC. Surely everyone is familiar with the epic of Gilgamesh that are the origins of many of the great bible stories of now a days. And that the information and technology at the time was obtained from aliens. And yet my neighbor still believes man is only 2000 years old... Silly. We waited that long for the failed Duke Nuken release... Thank the aliens I bought it when it was $2.99 versus $50. Time to get ready for a New Year folks, I hope everyone has an enjoyable new year and hopefully we get another great release of a "communally conducive" game release such as TF2 and CS:S have been. Many of these new multiplayer games this past year have let us down. Hutch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
Vac is an old system that never really worked at preventing cheats. I've never thought of delayed bans as a good idea, I can see the logic behind it, but it's just so outweighed by the fact that it basically lets people cheat, get caught, and continue to cheat for quite some time after being caught. Sometimes I don't think it even matters, Valve just ends up making more money off cheaters than regular players, I don't see how they'd care either. On Sunday, December 25, 2011 7:33:16 AM, AnAkIn . wrote: F2P or not, the players are not even getting VAC banned for known public cheats, so it doesn't really matter. 2011/12/25 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <mailto:mreeu...@yahoo.com>> I'd agree that I'm a "nutter", but not on this case. the female in question was the spouse of one of the admins and we review all our bans anyways. *From:* hasser css mailto:hasserva...@gmail.com>> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>> *Sent:* Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:47 *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report 24/12/2011 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk sagt: > Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so > they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind > of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted > some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. > We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which > ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned > them. Giving special rights to people on your server just because they are a female and can't ignore people herself? You're a bloody nutter! Please post your server name so I may add it to my blacklist and never have the misfortune of joining it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
F2P or not, the players are not even getting VAC banned for known public cheats, so it doesn't really matter. 2011/12/25 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk > I'd agree that I'm a "nutter", but not on this case. the female in > question was the spouse of one of the admins and we review all our bans > anyways. > > -- > *From:* hasser css > > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:47 > > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report > > 24/12/2011 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk sagt: > > Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, > so > > they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same > kind > > of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this > lasted > > some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at > it. > > We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which > > ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned > > them. > > Giving special rights to people on your server just because they are a > female and can't ignore people herself? You're a bloody nutter! Please > post your server name so I may add it to my blacklist and never have > the misfortune of joining it. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
I'd agree that I'm a "nutter", but not on this case. the female in question was the spouse of one of the admins and we review all our bans anyways. > > From: hasser css >To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:47 >Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report > >24/12/2011 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk sagt: >> Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so >> they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind >> of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted >> some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. >> We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which >> ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned >> them. > >Giving special rights to people on your server just because they are a >female and can't ignore people herself? You're a bloody nutter! Please >post your server name so I may add it to my blacklist and never have >the misfortune of joining it. > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
Kicking all F2P isn't an option in my opinion, you'd be removing an entire playerbase over a few problem individuals. I also question the choice to hand out admin to players that are or claim to be female. The chance for abuse is just too high with an unknown individual; by the time anything could be done about a player abusing their mini-admin, it would have meant an ill experience for many players. I have to agree with E. Olson, valve needs something in place to prevent the creation of massive numbers of F2P accounts, I'm honestly surprised they don't already have something. When F2P was announced valve assured us that it would not mean a rise in cheaters. Quite frankly I believe they're not holding up their end of the bargan. I have no quarrel with the VAC system, it sucks that it won't do anything about cheaters right off the bat, but it's good that it prevents programmers from figuring out something is VAC detectable before some of their users are banned. Then you look back and see that TF2 is now F2P, anyone can make as many accounts as they wish, and you have to wonder what the point of having VAC is without a complimentary system to keep banned players off. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
24/12/2011 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk sagt: > Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so > they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind > of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted > some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. > We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which > ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned > them. Giving special rights to people on your server just because they are a female and can't ignore people herself? You're a bloody nutter! Please post your server name so I may add it to my blacklist and never have the misfortune of joining it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
Well, make it a requirement that there is at least 1 game paid of +10 dollars to use F2P games... then they have to buy a game to play. (and yes, exclude humble bundle ones). No, not gifted or traded, must be a purchase on the account. and inb4, Happy Christmas everybody. > > From: Team BOOM! >To: 'Mart-Jan Reeuwijk' ; 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 >server mailing list' >Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:06 >Subject: RE: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report > > >I think is Valve should make TF2 $3.99 or something very cheap. Free is ridiculous. Serious players would obviously still buy the game and the free-2-play issue would be greatly reduced if not eliminated if this was done. At least charge something, even if it's just a couple bucks. Then you can block them via their credit card number, Paypal account ID, etc. Hell, most of these cheap-bastard trolls would probably stop just because they're too cheap to spend a couple bucks, and blocking mommy's credit card would end their rein of terror. > >Merry Christmas all, >Mike > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:51 PM >To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report > > >If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. > >Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. > > > >>____ >> From: E. Olsen >>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >>Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 >>Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report >> >> >>I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be >>able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight >>(either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player >>who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new >>account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 >>minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates >>another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with >>the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). >> >>I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle & Steam keys, etc. >> >>I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. >> >> >>On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: >> >>Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. >>Gotta have full time admins these days. >>>On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy" wrote: >>> >>> >>>>VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they >>>>get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used >>>>multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. >>>> >>>>In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. >>>>- Original Message - >>>>>From: Administrator >>>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report >>>>> >>>>>I totally agree with you. >>>>>People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. >>>>>At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. >>>>> >>
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
I think is Valve should make TF2 $3.99 or something very cheap. Free is ridiculous. Serious players would obviously still buy the game and the free-2-play issue would be greatly reduced if not eliminated if this was done. At least charge something, even if it's just a couple bucks. Then you can block them via their credit card number, Paypal account ID, etc. Hell, most of these cheap-bastard trolls would probably stop just because they're too cheap to spend a couple bucks, and blocking mommy's credit card would end their rein of terror. Merry Christmas all, Mike _ From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. _ From: E. Olsen To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle & Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy" wrote: VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - From: Administrator <mailto:ad...@crazyfreakgamers.com> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/list
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. > > From: E. Olsen >To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 >Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report > > >I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able >to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either >automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves >to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a >dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, >we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes >right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish >racist/homophobic stuff). > >I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the >same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even >caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle & Steam >keys, etc. > >I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are >even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers >clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after >account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so >many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into >their internal metrics. > > >On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > >Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. >Gotta have full time admins these days. >>On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy" wrote: >> >> >>>VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. >>> >>>In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. >>>- Original Message - >>>>From: Administrator >>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report >>>> >>>>I totally agree with you. >>>>People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. >>>>At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. >>>> >>>>Fair Play is missing :( >>>> >>>>On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: >>>>VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? >>>>>What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? >>>>>(Report violation) >>>>>All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? >>>>>Many cheaters are appearing lately... >>>>> >>>>>Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >>>>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>___ >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>please visit: >>>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>___ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >>visit: >>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle & Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. > Gotta have full time admins these days. > On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy" wrote: > >> ** >> VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, >> they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used >> multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. >> >> In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Administrator >> *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> *Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report >> >> I totally agree with you. >> People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. >> At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and >> who is not. >> >> Fair Play is missing :( >> >> On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: >> >> VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? >> What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? >> (Report violation) >> All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? >> Many cheaters are appearing lately... >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy" wrote: > ** > VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they > get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used > multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. > > In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. > > - Original Message - > *From:* Administrator > *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > *Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report > > I totally agree with you. > People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. > At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who > is not. > > Fair Play is missing :( > > On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: > > VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? > What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? > (Report violation) > All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? > Many cheaters are appearing lately... > > Thanks. > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - From: Administrator To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
