Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-16 Thread Never
Well before i buy, nobody said your server will not be in master list...
Also, i have choosen them because of their performance for forgein players.

I think, what they are doing is okay for clanservers... But not for 
communities like mine, because we pay servers to get them full of 
players and promote our website and earn money from advertising to pay 
up more servers.

I think, next month the only server i will host there will be the 
tournament server (because of international performance). I'll take for 
rent a dedicated server, and move the other servers there.

Thanks

Craig Collinson escribió:
 yeh stick to setting up pacman.

 on another note to the author of this thread why pay for a public server if
 it doesnt show up on the public list ? if only people can join you give the
 details to might aswell get it passworded and save money ?

 2008/7/16 Andrew Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   
 I think if you're that worried about player server queries sucking up your
 bandwidth, you shouldn't be running bandwidth intensive game servers to
 begin with.

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2008 1:44 PM
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 I bet the host is watching this list and taking your suggestions lol.


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 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 IMHO, selling servers but then preventing any players from seeing your
 server doesn't make sense and nobody in their right mind should waste their
 money on such a silly thing but indeed never should read his contract and
 see if there is a potential problem there.

 On the other hand, if they were really serious about this the host would
 also have IP blocked the master server IPs and ports.




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[hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Never
Hi,

I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is 
the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
They have excelent performance and low ping for international players 
(My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of 
their servers.
The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high traffic.

My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list anyway?
I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or 
something simillar.

Thank you

Nevermore

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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Never
Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via 
ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

thank you

Andreas Grimm escribió:
 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work anymore
 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it activate
 master communication by some sort of plugin?

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is 
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players 
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of 
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high traffic.

 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or 
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore

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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Chris Staley
wow.. I would get a new host then ;)

Never wrote:
 Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via 
 ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
 Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

 thank you

 Andreas Grimm escribió:
   
 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work anymore
 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it activate
 master communication by some sort of plugin?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is 
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players 
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of 
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high traffic.

 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or 
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore

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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
Yeah, ditch the host.

Sounds like they are retards.

- voogru.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

wow.. I would get a new host then ;)

Never wrote:
 Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via 
 ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
 Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

 thank you

 Andreas Grimm escribió:
   
 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work
anymore
 ...

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it
activate
 master communication by some sort of plugin?

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is 
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players 
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of 
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high
traffic.

 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or 
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore

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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Tom Leighton
Sounds like they're using the default TCAdmin settings. In which case 
you wouldnt be able to
upload amxmodx or metamod anyway...

Write to your host, say that -nomaster wont do jack for traffic, the 
only reason that it uses less bandwidth is because its not listed, no 
players are querying it.


Never wrote:
 Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via 
 ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
 Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

 thank you

 Andreas Grimm escribió:
   
 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work anymore
 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it activate
 master communication by some sort of plugin?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is 
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players 
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of 
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high traffic.

 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or 
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore

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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
I think you're out of luck.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

Well, they are not retards...
I think they disabled master server comunication to avoid international 
queries to the server.
This is the reason beause they have their holly 80 ms ping between Peru 
and Argentina.

I will not change them because their performance is unique, if you send 
a ping from Peru, to any other host in Argentina, even those hosting in 
the Telecom datacenter (one of the most importants telecomunications 
enterprise here), you will get 270 or 300.

My hosting is just 80!!!

I need this international performance because i am about to launch an 
international tournament and the best players are outsside my country.

And about the dlls it's because they wory about security...
You know, inside a dll you can put EVERITHING... Even a malicious trojan 
to vulnerate all the datacenter.

Any other idea?

Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald escribió:
 Yeah, ditch the host.

 Sounds like they are retards.

 - voogru.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Staley
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 wow.. I would get a new host then ;)

 Never wrote:
   
 Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via 
 ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
 Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

 thank you

 Andreas Grimm escribió:
   
 
 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work
   
 anymore
   
 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it
   
 activate
   
 master communication by some sort of plugin?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is 
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players 
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of 
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high
   
 traffic.
   
 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list
anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or 
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore

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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Kevin Ottalini
You should be able to use setmaster to add and re-enable master servers in 
your autoexec.cfg.

setmaster
Usage: setmaster add | remove | enable | disable IP:port

The two main servers (right now) are:
72.165.61.189:27011
69.28.151.162:27011

so what you do is add these to your autoexec.cfg:

setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011
setmaster add 69.28.151.162:27011
setmaster enable



- Original Message - 
From: Never
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed


Well, they are not retards...
I think they disabled master server comunication to avoid international
queries to the server.
This is the reason beause they have their holly 80 ms ping between Peru
and Argentina.

I will not change them because their performance is unique, if you send
a ping from Peru, to any other host in Argentina, even those hosting in
the Telecom datacenter (one of the most importants telecomunications
enterprise here), you will get 270 or 300.

My hosting is just 80!!!

I need this international performance because i am about to launch an
international tournament and the best players are outsside my country.

And about the dlls it's because they wory about security...
You know, inside a dll you can put EVERITHING... Even a malicious trojan
to vulnerate all the datacenter.

Any other idea?

Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald escribió:
 Yeah, ditch the host.

 Sounds like they are retards.

 - voogru.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Staley
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 wow.. I would get a new host then ;)

 Never wrote:

 Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via
 ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
 Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

 thank you

 Andreas Grimm escribió:


 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work

 anymore

 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it

 activate

 master communication by some sort of plugin?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high

 traffic.

 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list 
 anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore


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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Never
I love you!!!
I will try that...

Kevin Ottalini escribió:
 You should be able to use setmaster to add and re-enable master servers in 
 your autoexec.cfg.

 setmaster
 Usage: setmaster add | remove | enable | disable IP:port

 The two main servers (right now) are:
 72.165.61.189:27011
 69.28.151.162:27011

 so what you do is add these to your autoexec.cfg:

 setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011
 setmaster add 69.28.151.162:27011
 setmaster enable



 - Original Message - 
 From: Never
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed


 Well, they are not retards...
 I think they disabled master server comunication to avoid international
 queries to the server.
 This is the reason beause they have their holly 80 ms ping between Peru
 and Argentina.

 I will not change them because their performance is unique, if you send
 a ping from Peru, to any other host in Argentina, even those hosting in
 the Telecom datacenter (one of the most importants telecomunications
 enterprise here), you will get 270 or 300.

 My hosting is just 80!!!

 I need this international performance because i am about to launch an
 international tournament and the best players are outsside my country.

 And about the dlls it's because they wory about security...
 You know, inside a dll you can put EVERITHING... Even a malicious trojan
 to vulnerate all the datacenter.

 Any other idea?

 Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald escribió:
   
 Yeah, ditch the host.

 Sounds like they are retards.

 - voogru.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Staley
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 wow.. I would get a new host then ;)

 Never wrote:

 
 Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via
 ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
 Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?

 thank you

 Andreas Grimm escribió:


   
 I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command into
 something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
 that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work

 
 anymore

 
 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it

 
 activate

 
 master communication by some sort of plugin?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 Hi,

 I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is
 the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
 They have excelent performance and low ping for international players
 (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin America).

 But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of
 their servers.
 The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high

 
 traffic.

 
 My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list 
 anyway?
 I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or
 something simillar.

 Thank you

 Nevermore
 


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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread chillicane
maybe im missing the point here, but wouldn't forcing this potentially be a
breach in the TOS anyway? If they have a genuine reason for disabling it,
then its quite possible they would notice the extra traffic anyway and could
then potentialy cancel your account immediatly with no refund?

Right host for the right job, that kinda thing

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Never [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I love you!!!
 I will try that...

 Kevin Ottalini escribió:
  You should be able to use setmaster to add and re-enable master servers
 in
  your autoexec.cfg.
 
  setmaster
  Usage: setmaster add | remove | enable | disable IP:port
 
  The two main servers (right now) are:
  72.165.61.189:27011
  69.28.151.162:27011
 
  so what you do is add these to your autoexec.cfg:
 
  setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011
  setmaster add 69.28.151.162:27011
  setmaster enable
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Never
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
 
  Well, they are not retards...
  I think they disabled master server comunication to avoid international
  queries to the server.
  This is the reason beause they have their holly 80 ms ping between Peru
  and Argentina.
 
  I will not change them because their performance is unique, if you send
  a ping from Peru, to any other host in Argentina, even those hosting in
  the Telecom datacenter (one of the most importants telecomunications
  enterprise here), you will get 270 or 300.
 
  My hosting is just 80!!!
 
  I need this international performance because i am about to launch an
  international tournament and the best players are outsside my country.
 
  And about the dlls it's because they wory about security...
  You know, inside a dll you can put EVERITHING... Even a malicious trojan
  to vulnerate all the datacenter.
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald escribió:
 
  Yeah, ditch the host.
 
  Sounds like they are retards.
 
  - voogru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Staley
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
  wow.. I would get a new host then ;)
 
  Never wrote:
 
 
  Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via
  ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
  Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?
 
  thank you
 
  Andreas Grimm escribió:
 
 
 
  I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command
 into
  something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
  that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work
 
 
  anymore
 
 
  ...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
  To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
  I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it
 
 
  activate
 
 
  master communication by some sort of plugin?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
  Hi,
 
  I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is
  the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
  They have excelent performance and low ping for international players
  (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin
 America).
 
  But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of
  their servers.
  The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high
 
 
  traffic.
 
 
  My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list
  anyway?
  I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or
  something simillar.
 
  Thank you
 
  Nevermore
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Kevin Ottalini
IMHO, selling servers but then preventing any players from seeing your 
server doesn't make sense and nobody in their right mind should waste their 
money on such a silly thing but indeed never should read his contract and 
see if there is a potential problem there.

On the other hand, if they were really serious about this the host would 
also have IP blocked the master server IPs and ports.



- Original Message - 
From: chillicane
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed


maybe im missing the point here, but wouldn't forcing this potentially be a
breach in the TOS anyway? If they have a genuine reason for disabling it,
then its quite possible they would notice the extra traffic anyway and could
then potentialy cancel your account immediatly with no refund?

Right host for the right job, that kinda thing

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Never  wrote:

 I love you!!!
 I will try that...

 Kevin Ottalini escribió:
  You should be able to use setmaster to add and re-enable master 
  servers
 in
  your autoexec.cfg.
 
  setmaster
  Usage: setmaster add | remove | enable | disable IP:port
 
  The two main servers (right now) are:
  72.165.61.189:27011
  69.28.151.162:27011
 
  so what you do is add these to your autoexec.cfg:
 
  setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011
  setmaster add 69.28.151.162:27011
  setmaster enable
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Never
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
 
  Well, they are not retards...
  I think they disabled master server comunication to avoid international
  queries to the server.
  This is the reason beause they have their holly 80 ms ping between Peru
  and Argentina.
 
  I will not change them because their performance is unique, if you send
  a ping from Peru, to any other host in Argentina, even those hosting in
  the Telecom datacenter (one of the most importants telecomunications
  enterprise here), you will get 270 or 300.
 
  My hosting is just 80!!!
 
  I need this international performance because i am about to launch an
  international tournament and the best players are outsside my country.
 
  And about the dlls it's because they wory about security...
  You know, inside a dll you can put EVERITHING... Even a malicious trojan
  to vulnerate all the datacenter.
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald escribió:
 
  Yeah, ditch the host.
 
  Sounds like they are retards.
 
  - voogru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Staley
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:40 PM
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
  wow.. I would get a new host then ;)
 
  Never wrote:
 
 
  Very nice idea, but my hosting doesn't allow to upload .dll files via
  ftp or rename another files to .dll :(
  Can a amxmodx/metamod plugin rename files in the server?
 
  thank you
 
  Andreas Grimm escribió:
 
 
 
  I would hex edit the engine file to rename the -nomaster command
 into
  something other ... perhaps -pwnd or so ...
  that the -nomaster command of their start up script doesn't work
 
 
  anymore
 
 
  ...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K.
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:37 PM
  To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
  I don't know much about it, but wouldn't it be possible to have it
 
 
  activate
 
 
  master communication by some sort of plugin?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Never
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed
 
  Hi,
 
  I am paying for a hosting which is having excelent reliability and is
  the first hosting that gives me everithing i need.
  They have excelent performance and low ping for international players
  (My community is open for the best Half-Life players of Latin
 America).
 
  But they have an only negative point... They adds -nomaster to ALL of
  their servers.
  The reason is that the queries done to the server produces high
 
 
  traffic.
 
 
  My question is: ¿Is there any way to make server to apear in list
  anyway?
  I am thinking about deceiving master servers sending server info or
  something simillar.
 
  Thank you
 
  Nevermore
 


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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread DontWannaName!
I bet the host is watching this list and taking your suggestions lol.


- Original Message 
From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:00:11 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

IMHO, selling servers but then preventing any players from seeing your 
server doesn't make sense and nobody in their right mind should waste their 
money on such a silly thing but indeed never should read his contract and 
see if there is a potential problem there.

On the other hand, if they were really serious about this the host would 
also have IP blocked the master server IPs and ports.



  
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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Armstrong
I think if you're that worried about player server queries sucking up your
bandwidth, you shouldn't be running bandwidth intensive game servers to
begin with.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2008 1:44 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed


I bet the host is watching this list and taking your suggestions lol.


- Original Message 
From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:00:11 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

IMHO, selling servers but then preventing any players from seeing your 
server doesn't make sense and nobody in their right mind should waste their 
money on such a silly thing but indeed never should read his contract and 
see if there is a potential problem there.

On the other hand, if they were really serious about this the host would 
also have IP blocked the master server IPs and ports.



  
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Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

2008-07-15 Thread Craig Collinson
yeh stick to setting up pacman.

on another note to the author of this thread why pay for a public server if
it doesnt show up on the public list ? if only people can join you give the
details to might aswell get it passworded and save money ?

2008/7/16 Andrew Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I think if you're that worried about player server queries sucking up your
 bandwidth, you shouldn't be running bandwidth intensive game servers to
 begin with.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2008 1:44 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed


 I bet the host is watching this list and taking your suggestions lol.


 - Original Message 
 From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:00:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Force a -nomaster to be listed

 IMHO, selling servers but then preventing any players from seeing your
 server doesn't make sense and nobody in their right mind should waste their
 money on such a silly thing but indeed never should read his contract and
 see if there is a potential problem there.

 On the other hand, if they were really serious about this the host would
 also have IP blocked the master server IPs and ports.




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