Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Admin
I haven't seen anyone asking about personally running a game server.
Seriously fella ketchup.

'kn DH 

QUOTE
"Once again, we are only at the Steam servers. We do not want to sell
pirated server."

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Secv74
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012 7:23 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

Stefan Giroux  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> In addition:If you are hosting pirated game servers, you may not be 
> listed on
server browsers. Maybe, maybe not. If you choose to host pirated game
servers, do not e-mail this list any more.



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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Secv74
Stefan Giroux  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> In addition:If you are hosting pirated game servers, you may not be listed on
server browsers. Maybe, maybe not. If you choose to host pirated game servers,
do not e-mail this list any more.



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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Admin
What

 

From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Giroux
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012 5:24 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

 

In addition:

If you are hosting pirated game servers, you may not be listed on server
browsers. Maybe, maybe not. If you choose to host pirated game servers, do
not e-mail this list any more.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Stefan Giroux  wrote:

Instead of ignoring your questions like the rest of the list:

 

>> 1 css v34, is licensed as a game or it is still a pirate version? (old
css)

It does not matter what version it is. You either own the game or your do
not own the game.
The server is free. Only pirates use old versions.

 

>> 2 Does it make sense to write in Valve? Sent them several emails, no
response. I
think they do not particularly interested in such things

No, I do not see how they can help you.

 

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Martin Weltchek 
wrote:

There are a lot of Russians who own a legit copy of CSS... I have seen
plenty of Russian users on our servers over the years but lately not
as many... I am sure there are server hosting companies in Russia that
do not host for Pirated games...

If you know people who use Pirated software or host game with Pirated
software then they are probably never going to know if they are good
or not as they probably do not take a strong stance against
cheaters... Maybe they do not allow cheating but how can you trust
companies or people who use Pirated software?

Russia is not a poor country just as with any place I am sure the Laws
are not as easy to threaten the people hosting those Pirated servers
or selling the pirated games!


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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Stefan Giroux
In addition:

If you are hosting pirated game servers, you may not be listed on server
browsers. Maybe, maybe not. If you choose to host pirated game servers, do
not e-mail this list any more.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Stefan Giroux  wrote:

> Instead of ignoring your questions like the rest of the list:
>
>
> >> 1 css v34, is licensed as a game or it is still a pirate version? (old
>> css)
>>
> It does not matter what version it is. You either own the game or your do
> not own the game.
> *The server is free.* Only pirates use old versions.
>
>
> >> 2 Does it make sense to write in Valve? Sent them several emails, no
>> response. I
>> think they do not particularly interested in such things
>>
> No, I do not see how they can help you.
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Martin Weltchek <
> cozmicshred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There are a lot of Russians who own a legit copy of CSS... I have seen
>> plenty of Russian users on our servers over the years but lately not
>> as many... I am sure there are server hosting companies in Russia that
>> do not host for Pirated games...
>>
>> If you know people who use Pirated software or host game with Pirated
>> software then they are probably never going to know if they are good
>> or not as they probably do not take a strong stance against
>> cheaters... Maybe they do not allow cheating but how can you trust
>> companies or people who use Pirated software?
>>
>> Russia is not a poor country just as with any place I am sure the Laws
>> are not as easy to threaten the people hosting those Pirated servers
>> or selling the pirated games!
>>
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Stefan Giroux
Instead of ignoring your questions like the rest of the list:

>> 1 css v34, is licensed as a game or it is still a pirate version? (old
> css)
>
It does not matter what version it is. You either own the game or your do
not own the game.
*The server is free.* Only pirates use old versions.

>> 2 Does it make sense to write in Valve? Sent them several emails, no
> response. I
> think they do not particularly interested in such things
>
No, I do not see how they can help you.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Martin Weltchek
wrote:

> There are a lot of Russians who own a legit copy of CSS... I have seen
> plenty of Russian users on our servers over the years but lately not
> as many... I am sure there are server hosting companies in Russia that
> do not host for Pirated games...
>
> If you know people who use Pirated software or host game with Pirated
> software then they are probably never going to know if they are good
> or not as they probably do not take a strong stance against
> cheaters... Maybe they do not allow cheating but how can you trust
> companies or people who use Pirated software?
>
> Russia is not a poor country just as with any place I am sure the Laws
> are not as easy to threaten the people hosting those Pirated servers
> or selling the pirated games!
>
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Martin Weltchek
There are a lot of Russians who own a legit copy of CSS... I have seen
plenty of Russian users on our servers over the years but lately not
as many... I am sure there are server hosting companies in Russia that
do not host for Pirated games...

If you know people who use Pirated software or host game with Pirated
software then they are probably never going to know if they are good
or not as they probably do not take a strong stance against
cheaters... Maybe they do not allow cheating but how can you trust
companies or people who use Pirated software?

Russia is not a poor country just as with any place I am sure the Laws
are not as easy to threaten the people hosting those Pirated servers
or selling the pirated games!

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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Cc2iscooL
This would be the way to go. If you can encourage people to go get the real
copy of the game because of what you offer you'll make a killing.

That being said, CSS is not that expensive anymore. I could possibly see
the point if it were a $50 game, but it's only $20 and goes on sale pretty
frequently. Once you build a server setup, if you see it go on sale, send
an email out to your clients so they can tell their friends to buy it while
it's cheap.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Herover  wrote:

> Why not stand up and be good-guy russian hosting firm? Make your
> product better than the pireted, like provide mods only working on
> newer versions of css servers etc.
>
> 2012/4/30 Secv74 :
> > Maavrik  gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I think he could be trying to say that the hosting services in his
> country are
> > selling pirated servers instead of actual servers, and that he may want
> to try
> > to compete with the services by hosting actual servers.  I dunno
> however, it's
> > just a guess.
> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Team BOOM!  comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >> My Friends,
> >> We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
> >> using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
> >> information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you
> guys
> >> are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught
> or
> >> sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve
> and
> >> the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
> >> magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
> >> thing.
> >> Just my two cents.
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hlds-bounces  list.valvesoftware.com
> >> [mailto:hlds-bounces  list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
> >> That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with
> >> legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS
> scene.
> >> -ics
> >> 29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> >> > Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to
> >> > translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it
> >> > is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to
> >> > achieve.
> >> >
> >> > If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source
> >> > gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that
> >> > there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation
> >> > of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
> >> > So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or
> >> > "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ravnox
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Secv74  yandex.ru>:
> >> >
> >> >> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on
> >> >>> your pirated
> >> >> servers. Buy the game.
> >> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru>
> >> >>> wrote:Hi
> >> >>> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> >> >>> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css
> server?
> >> >>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> >> >>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> >> >>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> >> >>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> >> >>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> >> >>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
> >> >>> (ks16
> >> >>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> >> >>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
> >> >>> ___
> &

Re: [hlds] Game hosting (Secv74)

2012-04-30 Thread Drogen Viech
Cracked clients can't even connect to insecure servers as far as i
know, they get kicked off with the usual "This account does not own
this game, please login to the right account" message.

2012/4/30 G. Hutchinson :
> UFO's aside, If I am not mistaking, and I may be... Do not VAC enabled
> servers take measure to prevent pirated clients from playing? Thus, if a
> server is VAC enabled it is slightly "protected" from unwanted connects?
>
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting (Secv74)

2012-04-30 Thread G. Hutchinson
UFO's aside, If I am not mistaking, and I may be... Do not VAC 
enabled servers take measure to prevent pirated clients from playing? 
Thus, if a server is VAC enabled it is slightly "protected" from 
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Herover
Why not stand up and be good-guy russian hosting firm? Make your
product better than the pireted, like provide mods only working on
newer versions of css servers etc.

2012/4/30 Secv74 :
> Maavrik  gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>>
>> I think he could be trying to say that the hosting services in his country 
>> are
> selling pirated servers instead of actual servers, and that he may want to try
> to compete with the services by hosting actual servers.  I dunno however, it's
> just a guess.
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Team BOOM!  comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>> My Friends,
>> We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
>> using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
>> information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
>> are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
>> sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
>> the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
>> magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
>> thing.
>> Just my two cents.
>> Mike
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-bounces  list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-bounces  list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>> That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with
>> legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.
>> -ics
>> 29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
>> > Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to
>> > translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it
>> > is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to
>> > achieve.
>> >
>> > If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source
>> > gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that
>> > there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation
>> > of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
>> > So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or
>> > "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ravnox
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Secv74  yandex.ru>:
>> >
>> >> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on
>> >>> your pirated
>> >> servers. Buy the game.
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru>
>> >>> wrote:Hi
>> >>> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
>> >>> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
>> >>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
>> >>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
>> >>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
>> >>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
>> >>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
>> >>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
>> >>> (ks16
>> >>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
>> >>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
>> >>> ___
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>> >>> archives, please
>> >> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter
>> >> went bad.
>> >> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting
>> >> services in
>> >> our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,
>> >> the question
>> >> is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of
>> >> pirate server
>> >> and we do not?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 

Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Secv74
Maavrik  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> I think he could be trying to say that the hosting services in his country are
selling pirated servers instead of actual servers, and that he may want to try
to compete with the services by hosting actual servers.  I dunno however, it's
just a guess.
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Team BOOM!  comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> My Friends,
> We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
> using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
> information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
> are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
> sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
> the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
> magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
> thing.
> Just my two cents.
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-bounces  list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-bounces  list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
> That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with
> legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.
> -ics
> 29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> > Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to
> > translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it
> > is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to
> > achieve.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source
> > gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that
> > there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation
> > of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
> > So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or
> > "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
> >
> > --
> > Ravnox
> >
> >
> > Quoting Secv74  yandex.ru>:
> >
> >> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on
> >>> your pirated
> >> servers. Buy the game.
> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru>
> >>> wrote:Hi
> >>> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> >>> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
> >>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> >>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> >>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> >>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> >>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> >>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
> >>> (ks16
> >>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> >>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
> >>> ___
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> >>> archives, please
> >> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter
> >> went bad.
> >> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting
> >> services in
> >> our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,
> >> the question
> >> is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of
> >> pirate server
> >> and we do not?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-30 Thread Secv74
Ravnox  arkanox.net> writes:

> 
> Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to  
> translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it  
> is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to  
> achieve.
> 
> If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source  
> gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that  
> there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation  
> of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.  
> So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or  
> "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
> 
> --
> Ravnox
> 
> Quoting Secv74  yandex.ru>:
> 
> > Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on   
> >> your pirated
> > servers. Buy the game.
> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> wrote:Hi
> >> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> >> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
> >> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> >> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> >> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> >> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> >> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> >> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other (ks16
> >> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> >> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
> >> ___
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> >> archives, please
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter went 
> > bad.
> > We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting services 
> > in
> > our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,   
> > the question
> > is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of   
> > pirate server
> > and we do not?
> 
> 

Yes, Ravnox.

Thank you guys for your answers. And excuse me for my bad english

I see many of my questions are perceived not entirely correct. Postrayus easy to
explain. And I hope that anyone of you would clarify

We want to open the game hosting. We plan to sell only steam server. Only steam.
However, in our country a lot of players with a pirated version of the game -
potential customers for pirated servers. Steam players is several times smaller.
To compete with pirated server hosting is provided, it is very difficult. Since
their income will clearly be more due to pirated servers.

We want to understand whether or not we engage in this business or not, because
if Valve still for such hosting, it is likely that we will not stand the
competition, or at least our revenue will be much smaller and therefore we will
be more difficult to develop

An example of the European hosting
http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/game-servers/ (css only license - we are
ready to compete with the likes of hosting)
http://www.verygames.net/product/13/Game_server/buy_hosting_rental_Server_Only
(css only license - we are ready to compete with the likes of hosting)
http://www.i3d.net/gamehosting-games.php (css only license - we are ready to
compete with the likes of hosting)

The situation in our country (3 large hosting)
http://www.forteam.ru/ru/services (css only license - we are ready to compete
with the likes of hosting)
http://www.serva4ok.ru/order (steam + css css the old version - so we will play
host to the income and as a result will not be able to fully compete)
http://www.myarena.ru/gamemanager.php (steam + css css the old version - so we
will play host to the income and as a result will not be able to fully compete)

Once again, we are only at the Steam servers. We do not want to sell pirated
server. But the omission of Valve put us in an unequal footing with other
hosting companies. Therefore, we think that if Valve anyway, it is likely that
we do not need to open, or in the long run we will not survive. The market of
pirated games in our country is very high ...
A couple of questions.
1 css v34, is licensed as a game or it is still a pirate version? (old css)
2 Does it make sense to write in Valve? Sent them several emails, no response. I
think they do not particularly interested in such things

Thank you for your attention, nadesyu this time I will understand everything
correctly.



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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Bruno Garcia
The guys is asking if he can incorporate a 'plugin' to the source dedicated
server to reject steam tickets upon a connection of a client that does not
own the game.

This is not detected by VALVe as far as I know, however, I advice you to
stick to the original server mate.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Team BOOM!  wrote:

> Thanks Admin, I guess you're right. If he is asking about others doing it
> and if they get in trouble for it, I suppose that's a legit question. It's
> been going on for years however, so the answer is pretty obvious. I just
> feel like he's wondering if he can do it too and if he will get caught,
> hence my reply. Sorry if my response is directed improperly. We've all seen
> this stuff before, and usually these questions come from people with ill
> intentions so they know if it's worth their risk.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Admin
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:35 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>
> I don't think you understood him Mike. He is asking (in my opinion) how he
> is supposed to exist on a legitimate level when others are running on an
> illegitimate level. You are making assumptions on very little knowladge..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Team BOOM!
> Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 3:47 AM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>
> My Friends,
>
> We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
> using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
> information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you
> guys
> are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
> sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
> the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
> magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
> thing.
>
> Just my two cents.
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>
> That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with legit
> version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.
>
> -ics
>
> 29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> > Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to
> > translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it
> > is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to
> > achieve.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source
> > gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that
> > there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation
> > of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
> > So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or
> > "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
> >
> > --
> > Ravnox
> >
> >
> > Quoting Secv74 :
> >
> >> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on
> >>> your pirated
> >> servers. Buy the game.
> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru>
> >>> wrote:Hi We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in
> >>> one question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css
> >>> server?
> >>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> >>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> >>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> >>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> >>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> >>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
> >>> (ks16
> >>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> >>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
> >>> ___
> >>> To unsubscri

Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Team BOOM!
Thanks Admin, I guess you're right. If he is asking about others doing it
and if they get in trouble for it, I suppose that's a legit question. It's
been going on for years however, so the answer is pretty obvious. I just
feel like he's wondering if he can do it too and if he will get caught,
hence my reply. Sorry if my response is directed improperly. We've all seen
this stuff before, and usually these questions come from people with ill
intentions so they know if it's worth their risk.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Admin
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:35 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

I don't think you understood him Mike. He is asking (in my opinion) how he
is supposed to exist on a legitimate level when others are running on an
illegitimate level. You are making assumptions on very little knowladge.. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Team BOOM! 
Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 3:47 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

My Friends,

We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
thing.

Just my two cents.
Mike

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with legit
version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.

-ics

29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to 
> translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it 
> is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to 
> achieve.
>
> If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source 
> gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that 
> there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation 
> of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
> So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or 
> "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
>
> --
> Ravnox
>
>
> Quoting Secv74 :
>
>> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on 
>>> your pirated
>> servers. Buy the game.
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> 
>>> wrote:Hi We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in 
>>> one question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css 
>>> server?
>>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
>>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
>>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css 
>>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete, 
>>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
>>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
>>> (ks16
>>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
>>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
>>> ___
>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list 
>>> archives, please
>> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter 
>> went bad.
>> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting 
>> services in our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. 
>> Therefore, the question is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you 
>> can provide years of pirate server and we do not?
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, 
> p

Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Mart-Jan Reeuwijk

as the true meaning is lost in translation, I don't think we can assume either 
way.



>
> From: Admin 
>To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' 
> 
>Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012, 0:34
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
> 
>I don't think you understood him Mike. He is asking (in my opinion) how he
>is supposed to exist on a legitimate level when others are running on an
>illegitimate level. You are making assumptions on very little knowladge.. 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Team BOOM! 
>Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 3:47 AM
>To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>
>My Friends,
>
>We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
>using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
>information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
>are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
>sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
>the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
>magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
>thing.
>
>Just my two cents.
>Mike
>
>-Original Message-
>From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
>Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>
>That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with legit
>version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.
>
>-ics
>
>29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
>> Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to 
>> translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it 
>> is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to 
>> achieve.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source 
>> gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that 
>> there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation 
>> of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
>> So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or 
>> "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
>>
>> --
>> Ravnox
>>
>>
>> Quoting Secv74 :
>>
>>> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on 
>>>> your pirated
>>> servers. Buy the game.
>>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> 
>>>> wrote:Hi We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in 
>>>> one question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css 
>>>> server?
>>>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
>>>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
>>>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css 
>>>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete, 
>>>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
>>>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
>>>> (ks16
>>>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
>>>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
>>>> ___
>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list 
>>>> archives, please
>>> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter 
>>> went bad.
>>> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting 
>>> services in our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. 
>>> Therefore, the question is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you 
>>> can provide years of pirate server and we do not?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, 
>> please visit:
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>
>

Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Admin
I don't think you understood him Mike. He is asking (in my opinion) how he
is supposed to exist on a legitimate level when others are running on an
illegitimate level. You are making assumptions on very little knowladge.. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Team BOOM! 
Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 3:47 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

My Friends,

We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
thing.

Just my two cents.
Mike

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with legit
version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.

-ics

29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to 
> translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it 
> is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to 
> achieve.
>
> If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source 
> gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that 
> there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation 
> of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
> So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or 
> "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
>
> --
> Ravnox
>
>
> Quoting Secv74 :
>
>> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on 
>>> your pirated
>> servers. Buy the game.
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> 
>>> wrote:Hi We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in 
>>> one question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css 
>>> server?
>>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
>>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
>>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css 
>>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete, 
>>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
>>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
>>> (ks16
>>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
>>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
>>> ___
>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list 
>>> archives, please
>> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter 
>> went bad.
>> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting 
>> services in our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. 
>> Therefore, the question is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you 
>> can provide years of pirate server and we do not?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Charles Mabbott
In any case, he is stating a legitimate issue, but I do not believe Valve
would address it within the mailing-list, it might be best to take it
directly to Valve to see if there is anything that can be done that has not
already been done.

>
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread G. Hutchinson
I personally know that currently the US government is utilizing 
stealth technology recovered from alien UFO's to monitor Russian 
Counter Strike usage of pirated copies of CS:S (clients are pirated, 
servers are open source). As we speak, our government, along with 
Gabe Newell are amassing troops consisting of black ops and Kangaroos 
proficient with sentry gun deployment at strategic locations 
throughout the Russian federation. These kangaroos, or "roo's" as 
Gabe calls them, are killing machines.


As many of you know, Wiki states Gabe Newell has had two cornea 
transplants to correct an eye condition. I believe these "cornea 
transplants" are in fact alien eye transplants recovered from said 
alien spacecraft. These transplants are capable of rendering large 
populations into the lull of playing Peggle for hours on end as 
countless droves of kangaroos amass at their designated posts. I 
believe the increase of Peggle sales in Russia confirms my suspicions.


Anal Probes are being massed produced and dispersed amongst the black 
ops and are referred to under their code name"Logans" in honor of Mr 
Newell. I would invest in either KY or cork, depending on what you fancy.


If I where you, I would quickly go to the Moscow zoo... Follow these 
instructions closely..


I have a contact there. He is disguised as a Kangaroo, well, he is a 
kangaroo, living within their society as a kangaroo himself. His name 
is Double Roo. He has infiltrated the highest of high of the "Roo's". 
Be sure to wear a purple shirt, red hat with a yellow daisy pinned to 
your coat lapel. Whisper in his ear the code word "Kliggierbocker".


Do not wear pants I repeat... DO NOT wear pants. When you whisper 
the code word, be sure to gyrate your hips counter clockwise and rub 
your left nipple. Not the right nipple, people will think you are weird.


My contact will instruct you further. Oh, and bring sugar cubes...


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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Maavrik
I think he could be trying to say that the hosting services in his country
are selling pirated servers instead of actual servers, and that he may want
to try to compete with the services by hosting actual servers.  I dunno
however, it's just a guess.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Team BOOM!  wrote:

> My Friends,
>
> We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
> using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
> information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you
> guys
> are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
> sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
> the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
> magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
> thing.
>
> Just my two cents.
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting
>
> That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with
> legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.
>
> -ics
>
> 29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> > Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to
> > translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it
> > is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to
> > achieve.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source
> > gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that
> > there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation
> > of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.
> > So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or
> > "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
> >
> > --
> > Ravnox
> >
> >
> > Quoting Secv74 :
> >
> >> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on
> >>> your pirated
> >> servers. Buy the game.
> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru>
> >>> wrote:Hi
> >>> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> >>> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
> >>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> >>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> >>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> >>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> >>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> >>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other
> >>> (ks16
> >>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> >>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
> >>> ___
> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
> >>> archives, please
> >> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter
> >> went bad.
> >> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting
> >> services in
> >> our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,
> >> the question
> >> is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of
> >> pirate server
> >> and we do not?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
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> > please visit:
> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Team BOOM!
My Friends,

We shouldn't even bother discussing this on the list. He's asking about
using illegal software practices. He can go elsewhere to search for this
information. This is an Official Valve server list. I can't believe you guys
are even replying to him. All he wants to know is if he will get caught or
sanctioned for being the catalyst to illegal software activity. Valve and
the rest of us legit operators suffer when people like these work their
magic. Please don't help him, it only hurts the people doing the right
thing.

Just my two cents.
Mike

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Game hosting

That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with 
legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.

-ics

29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
> Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to 
> translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it 
> is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to 
> achieve.
>
> If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source 
> gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that 
> there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation 
> of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect. 
> So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or 
> "fine" those servers operators. Is that it?
>
> -- 
> Ravnox
>
>
> Quoting Secv74 :
>
>> Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on  
>>> your pirated
>> servers. Buy the game.
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> 
>>> wrote:Hi
>>> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
>>> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
>>> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
>>> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
>>> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
>>> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
>>> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
>>> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other 
>>> (ks16
>>> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
>>> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
>>> ___
>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list  
>>> archives, please
>> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter 
>> went bad.
>> We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting 
>> services in
>> our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,  
>> the question
>> is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of  
>> pirate server
>> and we do not?
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread ics
That's what i think he means too. It's kind of hard to compete with 
legit version over the cheap pirated servers, especially on CS/CSS scene.


-ics

29.4.2012 20:27, Ravnox kirjoitti:
Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to 
translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it 
is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to 
achieve.


If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source 
gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that 
there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation 
of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect. 
So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or 
"fine" those servers operators. Is that it?


--
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Quoting Secv74 :


Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:




Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on  
your pirated

servers. Buy the game.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> 
wrote:Hi

We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other 
(ks16

with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
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You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter 
went bad.
We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting 
services in
our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,  
the question
is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of  
pirate server

and we do not?






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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Ravnox
Secv74, if you are using Google translate or some such service to  
translate from Russian to English, it is doing a terrible job and it  
is very hard to understand what it is exactly that you are trying to  
achieve.


If I understand correctly, you want to offer legit dedicated Source  
gaming servers that players can rent. However, you are worry that  
there is no market to offer such services because of the proliferation  
of illegal servers that allow unregistered copies of games to connect.  
So, you are wondering if Valve are doing anything to shutdown or  
"fine" those servers operators. Is that it?


--
Ravnox


Quoting Secv74 :


Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:




Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on   
your pirated

servers. Buy the game.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> wrote:Hi
We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other (ks16
with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
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You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter went bad.
We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting services in
our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore,   
the question
is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of   
pirate server

and we do not?






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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Secv74
Cc2iscooL  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on your pirated
servers. Buy the game.
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  yandex.ru> wrote:Hi
> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other (ks16
> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
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You do not understand the meaning, or simply through an interpreter went bad.
We want to rent only to steam servers, but there are many hosting services in
our country who are quietly selling pirated css server. Therefore, the question
is how do Valvel oversees the hosting, or you can provide years of pirate server
and we do not?




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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Cc2iscooL
Neither Valve nor this mailing list will give you any support on your
pirated servers. Buy the game.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Secv74  wrote:

> Hi
> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other (ks16
> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
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Re: [hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Jethro Seabridge
No, as far as I know Valve makes no concessions towards pirated game
servers.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Secv74  wrote:

> Hi
> We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
> question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
> In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
> Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
> Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
> and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
> but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
> 1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other (ks16
> with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
> 2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?
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[hlds] Game hosting

2012-04-29 Thread Secv74
Hi
We want to open your game hosting. But we are interested in one
question. Valve monitors that provide for hosting pirated css server?
In our region - Russia, a lot of customers pirated the game.
Therefore, we would like to know whether or not they are prohibited.
Many official hosting server we sell the old version of the game css
and cssv70 and have nothing for it did not. We are ready to compete,
but competition must be fair. Hence the question:
1 Can a game server hosting is provided pirated css, l4d and other (ks16
with the situation clear, but now with other games - no)
2 If allowed, what sanctions can be imposed?


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