Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Timothy L Havener]

It isn't if someone asked where to go for that kind of service.  shaddup.

steve grout wrote:
> /me is siting watching the mailing list turn into advertisements.com :(
>
> sorry i don't normally say anything.. even through all the arguments 
> that go on but come on.. advertising on a list that is here to support 
> server admins is imho out of order no matter how u may try and justify it.
>
> Sorry
>
>
> Timothy L Havener wrote:
>   
>> www.wolfservers.com
>>
>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> If you go to SRCDS.com  There are a few users/websites that currently offer
>>> free map hosting.
>>>
>>> ~ Matt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> We've never had a problem with the speed of their services. Even with a
>>>> full
>>>> server downloading I still get full sync on my line (6mb) so I'm assuming
>>>> it's pretty decent.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, DontWannaName! <
>>>> dontwannaname...@yahoo.com
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>> I have GoDaddy but do you think they are fast enough for map hosting? I
>>>>> think their servers are in Arizona.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: SakeFox 
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>>>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:28:57 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under
>>>>> $7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can
>>>>> get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never
>>>>> had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of
>>>>> about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely.
>>>>> would be cheaper then the other host.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc2iscooL wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>> download.
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>>> Right there that's about $25.50.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>> web
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>>> plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
>>>>>>> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Storage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Data Transfer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Requests
>>>>>>>
>>>

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Evan Kaufman]

Only if you hate yourself.  (Disclaimer: had a very bad experience
with wolfservers, ymmv)

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Timothy L Havener
 wrote:
> www.wolfservers.com
>

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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[steve grout]

/me is siting watching the mailing list turn into advertisements.com :(

sorry i don't normally say anything.. even through all the arguments 
that go on but come on.. advertising on a list that is here to support 
server admins is imho out of order no matter how u may try and justify it.

Sorry


Timothy L Havener wrote:
> www.wolfservers.com
>
> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>   
>> If you go to SRCDS.com  There are a few users/websites that currently offer
>> free map hosting.
>>
>> ~ Matt
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> We've never had a problem with the speed of their services. Even with a
>>> full
>>> server downloading I still get full sync on my line (6mb) so I'm assuming
>>> it's pretty decent.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, DontWannaName! <
>>> dontwannaname...@yahoo.com
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> I have GoDaddy but do you think they are fast enough for map hosting? I
>>>> think their servers are in Arizona.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: SakeFox 
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:28:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>>>>
>>>> I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under
>>>> $7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can
>>>> get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never
>>>> had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of
>>>> about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely.
>>>> would be cheaper then the other host.
>>>>
>>>> Cc2iscooL wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>> download.
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>> Right there that's about $25.50.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
>>>>>
>>>>> Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
>>>>>
>>>>> It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>> web
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>> plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
>>>>>> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Storage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Data Transfer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
>>>>>>
>>>>>>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Requests
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        $0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
>>>>>>
>>>>>>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>> direct
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>>> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>> several
>>> 
>>>   
>>>>>> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>> files
>

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Timothy L Havener]

www.wolfservers.com

Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
> If you go to SRCDS.com  There are a few users/websites that currently offer
> free map hosting.
>
> ~ Matt
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>
>   
>> We've never had a problem with the speed of their services. Even with a
>> full
>> server downloading I still get full sync on my line (6mb) so I'm assuming
>> it's pretty decent.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, DontWannaName! <
>> dontwannaname...@yahoo.com
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>   
>>> I have GoDaddy but do you think they are fast enough for map hosting? I
>>> think their servers are in Arizona.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: SakeFox 
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:28:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>>>
>>> I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under
>>> $7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can
>>> get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never
>>> had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of
>>> about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely.
>>> would be cheaper then the other host.
>>>
>>> Cc2iscooL wrote:
>>>   
>>>> That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast
>>>> 
>> download.
>> 
>>>> Right there that's about $25.50.
>>>>
>>>> Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
>>>>
>>>> Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
>>>>
>>>> Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
>>>>
>>>> It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end
>>>> 
>> web
>> 
>>>> plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger 
>>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
>>>>> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Storage
>>>>>
>>>>>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Data Transfer
>>>>>
>>>>>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
>>>>>
>>>>>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
>>>>>
>>>>>  Requests
>>>>>
>>>>>$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
>>>>>
>>>>>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have
>>>>>   
>>> direct
>>>   
>>>>> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for
>>>>>   
>> several
>> 
>>>>> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the
>>>>>   
>>> files
>>>   
>>>>> are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from
>>>>>   
>>> the
>>>   
>>>>> same place.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jungledisk.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Alec Sanger
>>>>> P: 248.941.3813
>>>>> F: 313.286.8945
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
>>>>>> From: chillic...@gmail.com
>>>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace
>>>>>> 
>> to
>> 
>>>>> host

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Matthew Gottlieb]

If you go to SRCDS.com  There are a few users/websites that currently offer
free map hosting.

~ Matt

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:

> We've never had a problem with the speed of their services. Even with a
> full
> server downloading I still get full sync on my line (6mb) so I'm assuming
> it's pretty decent.
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, DontWannaName! <
> dontwannaname...@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I have GoDaddy but do you think they are fast enough for map hosting? I
> > think their servers are in Arizona.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: SakeFox 
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
> > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:28:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> >
> > I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under
> > $7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can
> > get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never
> > had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of
> > about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely.
> > would be cheaper then the other host.
> >
> > Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast
> download.
> > >
> > > Right there that's about $25.50.
> > >
> > > Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
> > >
> > > Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
> > >
> > > Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
> > >
> > > It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end
> web
> > > plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
> > >> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
> > >>
> > >> Storage
> > >>
> > >>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Data Transfer
> > >>
> > >>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
> > >>
> > >>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
> > >>
> > >>  Requests
> > >>
> > >>$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
> > >>
> > >>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have
> > direct
> > >> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for
> several
> > >> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the
> > files
> > >> are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from
> > the
> > >> same place.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.jungledisk.com/
> > >>
> > >> Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thank you,
> > >> Alec Sanger
> > >> P: 248.941.3813
> > >> F: 313.286.8945
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
> > >>> From: chillic...@gmail.com
> > >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace
> to
> > >>>
> > >> host
> > >>
> > >>> the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
> > >>> organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from
> a
> > >>> communal, locality based download server.
> > >>>
> > >>> Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper
> for
> > >>>
> > >> me
> > >>
> > >>> to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one,
> but
> > if
> > >>> there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local
> server
> > i
> > >>> would jump at the oppurtunity.
>

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Cc2iscooL]

We've never had a problem with the speed of their services. Even with a full
server downloading I still get full sync on my line (6mb) so I'm assuming
it's pretty decent.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, DontWannaName!  wrote:

> I have GoDaddy but do you think they are fast enough for map hosting? I
> think their servers are in Arizona.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: SakeFox 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:28:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>
> I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under
> $7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can
> get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never
> had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of
> about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely.
> would be cheaper then the other host.
>
> Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast download.
> >
> > Right there that's about $25.50.
> >
> > Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
> >
> > Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
> >
> > Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
> >
> > It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end web
> > plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
> >> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
> >>
> >> Storage
> >>
> >>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
> >>
> >>
> >>  Data Transfer
> >>
> >>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
> >>
> >>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
> >>
> >>  Requests
> >>
> >>$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
> >>
> >>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
> >>
> >>
> >> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have
> direct
> >> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for several
> >> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the
> files
> >> are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from
> the
> >> same place.
> >>
> >> http://www.jungledisk.com/
> >>
> >> Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Alec Sanger
> >> P: 248.941.3813
> >> F: 313.286.8945
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
> >>> From: chillic...@gmail.com
> >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> >>>
> >>> It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to
> >>>
> >> host
> >>
> >>> the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
> >>> organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
> >>> communal, locality based download server.
> >>>
> >>> Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for
> >>>
> >> me
> >>
> >>> to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but
> if
> >>> there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server
> i
> >>> would jump at the oppurtunity.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Not sure. I was just curious.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar 
> >>>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess
> >>>>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>>>> while
> >>>>> this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
> >>>>> probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were
> >>>>>
> >> asking
> >>
> >>>>&

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[DontWannaName!]

I have GoDaddy but do you think they are fast enough for map hosting? I think 
their servers are in Arizona.





From: SakeFox 
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:28:57 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under 
$7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can 
get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never 
had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of 
about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely. 
would be cheaper then the other host.

Cc2iscooL wrote:
> That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast download.
>
> Right there that's about $25.50.
>
> Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
>
> Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
>
> Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
>
> It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end web
> plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger  wrote:
>
>  
>> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
>> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
>>
>> Storage
>>
>>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>>
>>
>>  Data Transfer
>>
>>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
>>
>>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
>>
>>  Requests
>>
>>$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
>>
>>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
>>
>>
>> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have direct
>> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for several
>> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the files
>> are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from the
>> same place.
>>
>> http://www.jungledisk.com/
>>
>> Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Alec Sanger
>> P: 248.941.3813
>> F: 313.286.8945
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
>>> From: chillic...@gmail.com
>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>>>
>>> It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to
>>>  
>> host
>>
>>> the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
>>> organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
>>> communal, locality based download server.
>>>
>>> Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for
>>>  
>> me
>>
>>> to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but if
>>> there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server i
>>> would jump at the oppurtunity.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Not sure. I was just curious.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar 
>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess
>>>>>  
>> is
>>
>>>>> while
>>>>> this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
>>>>> probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were
>>>>>  
>> asking
>>
>>>>> for
>>>>> a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing
>>>>>  
>> to
>>
>>>>> make
>>>>> the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL 
>>>>>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh <
>>>>>>
>> supp...@frrsh.co.uk
>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> We can host the maps for you. for $

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Alec Sanger]

you transfer 150GB per month on maps alone? yikes

Thank you,
Alec Sanger
P: 248.941.3813
F: 313.286.8945



> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:59:39 -0600
> From: cc2isc...@gmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> 
> That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast download.
> 
> Right there that's about $25.50.
> 
> Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
> 
> Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
> 
> Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
> 
> It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end web
> plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
> > INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
> >
> > Storage
> >
> >$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
> >
> >
> >  Data Transfer
> >
> >$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
> >
> >$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
> >
> >  Requests
> >
> >$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
> >
> >$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
> >
> >
> > no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have direct
> > web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for several
> > gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the files
> > are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from the
> > same place.
> >
> > http://www.jungledisk.com/
> >
> > Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Alec Sanger
> > P: 248.941.3813
> > F: 313.286.8945
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
> > > From: chillic...@gmail.com
> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> > >
> > > It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to
> > host
> > > the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
> > > organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
> > > communal, locality based download server.
> > >
> > > Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for
> > me
> > > to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but if
> > > there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server i
> > > would jump at the oppurtunity.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not sure. I was just curious.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess
> > is
> > > > > while
> > > > > this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
> > > > > probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were
> > asking
> > > > > for
> > > > > a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing
> > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh <
> > supp...@frrsh.co.uk
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> > > > > > > Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi
> > has
> > > > > > > 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free
> > 10day
> > > > > trial
> > > > > > > to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host
> > > > directly
> > > > > > > onto the server for $10 if you want.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already
> >

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[SakeFox]

I have used godaddy to host my maps on my server paying a little under 
$7/mo (since i have multiple domains have the deluxe plan), but you can 
get it for $5/mo and its full web hosting. Works great. its fast never 
had a problem and think in about a year i had 1 unscheduled downtime of 
about 2 mins and the scheduled ones where about 1-2 and happen rarely. 
would be cheaper then the other host.

Cc2iscooL wrote:
> That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast download.
>
> Right there that's about $25.50.
>
> Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.
>
> Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02
>
> Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.
>
> It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end web
> plan for the same price from a webhosting company.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger  wrote:
>
>   
>> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
>> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
>>
>> Storage
>>
>>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>>
>>
>>  Data Transfer
>>
>>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
>>
>>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
>>
>>  Requests
>>
>>$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
>>
>>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
>>
>>
>> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have direct
>> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for several
>> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the files
>> are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from the
>> same place.
>>
>> http://www.jungledisk.com/
>>
>> Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Alec Sanger
>> P: 248.941.3813
>> F: 313.286.8945
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
>>> From: chillic...@gmail.com
>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
>>>
>>> It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to
>>>   
>> host
>> 
>>> the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
>>> organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
>>> communal, locality based download server.
>>>
>>> Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for
>>>   
>> me
>> 
>>> to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but if
>>> there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server i
>>> would jump at the oppurtunity.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Not sure. I was just curious.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar 
>>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess
>>>>>   
>> is
>> 
>>>>> while
>>>>> this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
>>>>> probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were
>>>>>   
>> asking
>> 
>>>>> for
>>>>> a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing
>>>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>>>> make
>>>>> the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL 
>>>>>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh <
>>>>>> 
>> supp...@frrsh.co.uk
>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
>>>>>>> Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi
>>>>>>>   
>> has
>> 
>>>>>>> 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free
>>>>>>>   

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Cc2iscooL]

That seems like a really bad deal. I use about 150gb/mo on fast download.

Right there that's about $25.50.

Now you need about a gig of storage, maybe two. $0.15 - $0.30.

Now you need to pay for requests. Say you get 20,000. $0.02

Total $25.67 to $25.82 per month.

It'd be useful for smaller hosts but you could get a really high end web
plan for the same price from a webhosting company.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Alec Sanger  wrote:

>
> Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are
> INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.
>
> Storage
>
>$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>
>
>  Data Transfer
>
>$0.10 per GB of data uploaded
>
>$0.17 per GB of data downloaded
>
>  Requests
>
>$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests
>
>$0.01 per 10,000 download requests
>
>
> no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have direct
> web access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for several
> gigs worth of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the files
> are placed in multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from the
> same place.
>
> http://www.jungledisk.com/
>
> Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Alec Sanger
> P: 248.941.3813
> F: 313.286.8945
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
> > From: chillic...@gmail.com
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> >
> > It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to
> host
> > the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
> > organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
> > communal, locality based download server.
> >
> > Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for
> me
> > to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but if
> > there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server i
> > would jump at the oppurtunity.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
> >
> > > Not sure. I was just curious.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess
> is
> > > > while
> > > > this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
> > > > probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were
> asking
> > > > for
> > > > a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing
> to
> > > > make
> > > > the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh <
> supp...@frrsh.co.uk
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> > > > > > Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi
> has
> > > > > > 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free
> 10day
> > > > trial
> > > > > > to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host
> > > directly
> > > > > > onto the server for $10 if you want.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already
> have
> > > > > that!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk  sa...@frrsh.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards
> > > > > > Ollie C.
> > > > > > Frrsh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sales:
> > > > > > Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk <mailto:sa...@frrsh.co.uk>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Support:
> > > > > > Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk <mailto:supp...@frrsh.co.uk>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Sugar wrote:
> > > > > > > Don't forget good speed

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Alec Sanger]

Has anyone thought to use an S3 host such as jungledisk? The rates are 
INCREDIBLY nice. They charge only for what you use.

Storage

$0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
  

  Data Transfer

$0.10 per GB of data uploaded

$0.17 per GB of data downloaded

  Requests

$0.01 per 1,000 upload requests

$0.01 per 10,000 download requests


no minimum payments, and for an extra dollar per month you can have direct web 
access to all of your files. My last bill was only $1.41 for several gigs worth 
of data. I'm not sure about the speeds, but I believe the files are placed in 
multiple datacenters so not everyone is downloading from the same place.

http://www.jungledisk.com/

Just a thought. May not work very well. Maybe I'll test it this month.


Thank you,
Alec Sanger
P: 248.941.3813
F: 313.286.8945



> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:42:35 +1100
> From: chillic...@gmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions
> 
> It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to host
> the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
> organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
> communal, locality based download server.
> 
> Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for me
> to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but if
> there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server i
> would jump at the oppurtunity.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
> 
> > Not sure. I was just curious.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar  wrote:
> >
> > > Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess is
> > > while
> > > this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
> > > probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were asking
> > > for
> > > a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing to
> > > make
> > > the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh  > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> > > > > Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
> > > > > 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day
> > > trial
> > > > > to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host
> > directly
> > > > > onto the server for $10 if you want.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have
> > > > that!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk <mailto:sa...@frrsh.co.uk
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards
> > > > > Ollie C.
> > > > > Frrsh
> > > > >
> > > > > Sales:
> > > > > Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk <mailto:sa...@frrsh.co.uk>
> > > > >
> > > > > Support:
> > > > > Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk <mailto:supp...@frrsh.co.uk>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Sugar wrote:
> > > > > > Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
> > > > > bandwidth
> > > > > > than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
> > > > > > concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to
> > > > have
> > > > > a
> > > > > > 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as
> > > the
> > > > > > servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we
> > went
> > > > with
> > > > > > when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and,
> > of
> > > > > course,
> > > > > > there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations
> > > without
> > > > > > doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Atreus
> &g

Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Arg!]

It seems odd to me that a lot of hosts are using their own webspace to host
the same files as other hosts. I get that that it would take some
organization, but i imagine that established GSPs would benefit from a
communal, locality based download server.

Eg, here in Australia as a small time server operator it is cheaper for me
to get a US host for downloadable content than to use a local one, but if
there was an option to pay a small fee to contribute to a local server i
would jump at the oppurtunity.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:

> Not sure. I was just curious.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar  wrote:
>
> > Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess is
> > while
> > this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
> > probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were asking
> > for
> > a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing to
> > make
> > the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
> >
> > > Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> > > > Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
> > > > 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day
> > trial
> > > > to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host
> directly
> > > > onto the server for $10 if you want.
> > > >
> > > > Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have
> > > that!
> > > >
> > > > Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk  >
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards
> > > > Ollie C.
> > > > Frrsh
> > > >
> > > > Sales:
> > > > Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
> > > >
> > > > Support:
> > > > Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Sugar wrote:
> > > > > Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
> > > > bandwidth
> > > > > than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
> > > > > concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as
> > the
> > > > > servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we
> went
> > > with
> > > > > when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and,
> of
> > > > course,
> > > > > there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations
> > without
> > > > > doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Atreus
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM,  dynamicbits.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that
> > > organizing
> > > > >> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too
> > time
> > > > >> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month
> shared
> > > > >> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews.
> > All
> > > > >> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any
> > > features
> > > > >> aside from the ability to directly download files.
> > > > >>
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Support - Frrsh]

There would be a site but we've been far to busy doing sites for clients!

I agree the colour scheme is horrible thus is the reason we aren't using 
now!

Anyway if that is the response I'm going to get for offering a solutions 
to someone's problems I won't bother next time.

Kind Regards
Ollie C.
Frrsh

Sales:
Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 

Support:
Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 



Kitteny Berk wrote:
> I can't see anything that says it isn't,  But as it's effectively spam 
> as far as I'm concerned,  and that their website lacks any content apart 
> from a truely vile colour scheme.
>
> Well, they're on my list of hosts to avoid now.
>
> Cc2iscooL wrote:
>   
>> Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
>>> Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
>>> 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day trial
>>> to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host directly
>>> onto the server for $10 if you want.
>>>
>>> Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have that!
>>>
>>> Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Ollie C.
>>> Frrsh
>>>
>>> Sales:
>>> Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
>>>
>>> Support:
>>> Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Sugar wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
   
 
>>> bandwidth
>>> 
>>>   
 than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
 concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to have
   
 
>>> a
>>> 
>>>   
 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as the
 servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went with
 when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of
   
 
>>> course,
>>> 
>>>   
 there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations without
 doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)

 -Atreus

 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, 
   
 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
   
 
> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that organizing
> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any features
> aside from the ability to directly download files.
>
> 
>   
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>>> 
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Cc2iscooL]

Not sure. I was just curious.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jeff Sugar  wrote:

> Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess is
> while
> this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
> probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were asking
> for
> a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing to
> make
> the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>
> > Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh  > >wrote:
> >
> > > We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> > > Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
> > > 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day
> trial
> > > to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host directly
> > > onto the server for $10 if you want.
> > >
> > > Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have
> > that!
> > >
> > > Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > > Ollie C.
> > > Frrsh
> > >
> > > Sales:
> > > Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
> > >
> > > Support:
> > > Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Sugar wrote:
> > > > Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
> > > bandwidth
> > > > than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
> > > > concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to
> > have
> > > a
> > > > 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as
> the
> > > > servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went
> > with
> > > > when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of
> > > course,
> > > > there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations
> without
> > > > doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
> > > >
> > > > -Atreus
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that
> > organizing
> > > >> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too
> time
> > > >> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
> > > >> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews.
> All
> > > >> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any
> > features
> > > >> aside from the ability to directly download files.
> > > >>
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Kitteny Berk]

I can't see anything that says it isn't,  But as it's effectively spam 
as far as I'm concerned,  and that their website lacks any content apart 
from a truely vile colour scheme.

Well, they're on my list of hosts to avoid now.

Cc2iscooL wrote:
> Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh wrote:
>
>   
>> We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
>> Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
>> 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day trial
>> to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host directly
>> onto the server for $10 if you want.
>>
>> Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have that!
>>
>> Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Ollie C.
>> Frrsh
>>
>> Sales:
>> Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
>>
>> Support:
>> Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Sugar wrote:
>> 
>>> Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
>>>   
>> bandwidth
>> 
>>> than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
>>> concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to have
>>>   
>> a
>> 
>>> 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as the
>>> servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went with
>>> when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of
>>>   
>> course,
>> 
>>> there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations without
>>> doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
>>>
>>> -Atreus
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, 
>>>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>   
 Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that organizing
 a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
 consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
 hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
 you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any features
 aside from the ability to directly download files.

 
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Jeff Sugar]

Well, there is more than one way to look at it. As a rule, my guess is while
this mailing list isn't generally meant for that type of thing, there
probably isn't a hard rule against it. However, since people were asking for
a solution to this very problem, I suppose it's not such a bad thing to make
the service known to those who would enjoy it. Dunno.


On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:

> Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh  >wrote:
>
> > We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> > Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
> > 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day trial
> > to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host directly
> > onto the server for $10 if you want.
> >
> > Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have
> that!
> >
> > Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Ollie C.
> > Frrsh
> >
> > Sales:
> > Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
> >
> > Support:
> > Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Sugar wrote:
> > > Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
> > bandwidth
> > > than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
> > > concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to
> have
> > a
> > > 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as the
> > > servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went
> with
> > > when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of
> > course,
> > > there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations without
> > > doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
> > >
> > > -Atreus
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that
> organizing
> > >> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
> > >> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
> > >> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
> > >> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any
> features
> > >> aside from the ability to directly download files.
> > >>
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Cc2iscooL]

Is this kind of advertising even allowed here?

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Support - Frrsh wrote:

> We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
> Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has
> 100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day trial
> to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host directly
> onto the server for $10 if you want.
>
> Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have that!
>
> Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
>
> Kind Regards
> Ollie C.
> Frrsh
>
> Sales:
> Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 
>
> Support:
> Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 
>
>
>
> Jeff Sugar wrote:
> > Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more
> bandwidth
> > than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
> > concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to have
> a
> > 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as the
> > servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went with
> > when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of
> course,
> > there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations without
> > doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
> >
> > -Atreus
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that organizing
> >> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
> >> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
> >> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
> >> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any features
> >> aside from the ability to directly download files.
> >>
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Support - Frrsh]

We can host the maps for you. for $5.00 p.c.m
Would be simple FTP account to upload all your files to.  Dedi has 
100mbit full duplex line into and unlimited bandwidth.  Free 10day trial 
to try and can import all your maps etc from your current host directly 
onto the server for $10 if you want.

Can also have web hosting if you want but I suspect you already have that!

Any questions just email sa...@frrsh.co.uk 

Kind Regards
Ollie C.
Frrsh

Sales:
Email: sa...@frrsh.co.uk 

Support:
Email: supp...@frrsh.co.uk 



Jeff Sugar wrote:
> Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more bandwidth
> than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
> concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to have a
> 2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as the
> servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went with
> when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of course,
> there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations without
> doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)
>
> -Atreus
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM,  wrote:
>
>   
>> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that organizing
>> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
>> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
>> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
>> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any features
>> aside from the ability to directly download files.
>> 
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Mike Stiehm]

We use www.dot5hosting.com if you are just going to host files they have a
great price. With them for almost a year now and no big issues. Something
like $4.95 a month I think

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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Damato
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:04 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

Just curious what other ops are using for hosting map FTPs for downloads,
currently I've been using hostmonster, but speeds have been very erratic.
Does anyone know of a host thats been really good with this type of hosting,
or are there any mods/plugins/cvars that can be changed to boost the speed
with which clients are able to download/unpack map files.

Ive found that generally a server running lots of custom maps has a
tolerance time of roughly 5 - 7 minutes for the average player before they
will disconnect and not bother downloading. Another thing that I think would
help immensely would be to list the speed and percentage of the download
complete, the bars really aren't enough of an indicator, though this would
be something valve would have to patch in.

Thanks,

Mike
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Jeff Sugar]

Don't forget good speeds :v Many cheap hosts, while providing more bandwidth
than you could ever use in a month, will not do well with multiple
concurrent downloads at high speeds. I'm lucky enough these days to have a
2x100mbit line on my dedicated server to serve the maps as well as the
servers, but I remember the woes of some of the shared hosts we went with
when an entire server full of people were downloading a map (and, of course,
there's no way via svdownloadurl to get from multiple locations without
doing something serverside with htaccess and a randomized redirect)

-Atreus

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM,  wrote:

> Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that organizing
> a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
> consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
> hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
> you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any features
> aside from the ability to directly download files.
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[valvesoftware . com]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:28:18 +1100, "Arg!"  said:
> Also, correct me if im wrong but with goldsrc games you could have
> this nice little banner image as part of the download where as now, at
> least in tf2, it doesnt work that way?

You used to be able to place a  340x56 image at
/gfx/banner.gif. That feature was removed long ago.


> As for map hosting solutions, unless it has already happened, ive
> often though it would make sense for server operators in certain
> geographical areas to chip in for a download server with custom maps
> on it etc, would be pretty cheap to get a huge connection if lots of
> people were paying for it.

Unless you are doing this professionally, you will find that organizing
a group of people and keeping up with the money collection is too time
consuming to be worth it. All one needs is a good $5-8/month shared
hosting package. Search for highly rated hosts with good reviews. All
you are looking for is uptime and bandwidth. You don't need any features
aside from the ability to directly download files.


--
Andy

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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Arg!]

Also, correct me if im wrong but with goldsrc games you could have this nice
little banner image as part of the download where as now, at least in tf2,
it doesnt work that way?

As for map hosting solutions, unless it has already happened, ive often
though it would make sense for server operators in certain geographical
areas to chip in for a download server with custom maps on it etc, would be
pretty cheap to get a huge connection if lots of people were paying for it.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:

> I use my current webhost to do the transfers. The main problem right now,
> well, with TF2 anyway, is the download bar isn't very good, at least with
> .bz2 downloads. The actual download goes to the halfway point, which
> confuses a lot of clients. A lot of people think the download is just
> really
> slow, when it's actually a 30-40mb download for half the bar, and then the
> extraction process and load. I made a topic about this a very long time ago
> and had a few people say it'd be awesome, but unfortunately we never saw
> anything from Valve on the issue.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Michael Damato 
> wrote:
>
> > Just curious what other ops are using for hosting map FTPs for downloads,
> > currently I've been using hostmonster, but speeds have been very erratic.
> > Does anyone know of a host thats been really good with this type of
> > hosting,
> > or are there any mods/plugins/cvars that can be changed to boost the
> speed
> > with which clients are able to download/unpack map files.
> >
> > Ive found that generally a server running lots of custom maps has a
> > tolerance time of roughly 5 - 7 minutes for the average player before
> they
> > will disconnect and not bother downloading. Another thing that I think
> > would
> > help immensely would be to list the speed and percentage of the download
> > complete, the bars really aren't enough of an indicator, though this
> would
> > be something valve would have to patch in.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
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Re: [hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Cc2iscooL]

I use my current webhost to do the transfers. The main problem right now,
well, with TF2 anyway, is the download bar isn't very good, at least with
.bz2 downloads. The actual download goes to the halfway point, which
confuses a lot of clients. A lot of people think the download is just really
slow, when it's actually a 30-40mb download for half the bar, and then the
extraction process and load. I made a topic about this a very long time ago
and had a few people say it'd be awesome, but unfortunately we never saw
anything from Valve on the issue.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Michael Damato  wrote:

> Just curious what other ops are using for hosting map FTPs for downloads,
> currently I've been using hostmonster, but speeds have been very erratic.
> Does anyone know of a host thats been really good with this type of
> hosting,
> or are there any mods/plugins/cvars that can be changed to boost the speed
> with which clients are able to download/unpack map files.
>
> Ive found that generally a server running lots of custom maps has a
> tolerance time of roughly 5 - 7 minutes for the average player before they
> will disconnect and not bother downloading. Another thing that I think
> would
> help immensely would be to list the speed and percentage of the download
> complete, the bars really aren't enough of an indicator, though this would
> be something valve would have to patch in.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
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[hlds] New Topic: Map Hosting Solutions

[Michael Damato]

Just curious what other ops are using for hosting map FTPs for downloads,
currently I've been using hostmonster, but speeds have been very erratic.
Does anyone know of a host thats been really good with this type of hosting,
or are there any mods/plugins/cvars that can be changed to boost the speed
with which clients are able to download/unpack map files.

Ive found that generally a server running lots of custom maps has a
tolerance time of roughly 5 - 7 minutes for the average player before they
will disconnect and not bother downloading. Another thing that I think would
help immensely would be to list the speed and percentage of the download
complete, the bars really aren't enough of an indicator, though this would
be something valve would have to patch in.

Thanks,

Mike
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