[hlds] Weird CPU usage
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? Setup: Windows 2003 Server EE x86 w/o ACPI (Standard PC in setup F5) AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 1.5GB DDR400 Gigabyte GA-K8U-939 mobo IDE 7200RPM 8mb cache drive 2 10/100 NICs Srcds 100tick 20 man CSSDM Thanks for any help or suggestions :-), Dan -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
At 11:57 PM 3/6/2007, Dan E wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? attach process explorer to it to see what it's doing when it's spiking. Running windows without ACPI isn't recommended, especially on newer motherboards because ACPI enables quirks to get things to work properly. G. Stanley Engineering (AS36352) Velocity Servers, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
What should I be looking for in Process Explorer? I didn't want to disable ACPI, but that's the only way that I've found to achieve 1000FPS. There was another thing that I read about if you're running a pure Intel based system (CPU and chipset and board), it is possible, but I don't have that kind of money to shell out on a whim. Any other suggestions, as I'd really like to have a standard install with the best performance possible out of the server? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Stanley Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:21 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage At 11:57 PM 3/6/2007, Dan E wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? attach process explorer to it to see what it's doing when it's spiking. Running windows without ACPI isn't recommended, especially on newer motherboards because ACPI enables quirks to get things to work properly. G. Stanley Engineering (AS36352) Velocity Servers, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
Dan, The difference between a 1ms (1000fps) and a 2ms (500fps) server is insignificant and players can't see the difference. It's not worth all the hassle to fuss with this issue, much better to spend time on the day-today running of the server and focus on having a stable server that delivers predictable performance for players. - Original Message - From: Dan E To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Weird CPU usage What should I be looking for in Process Explorer? I didn't want to disable ACPI, but that's the only way that I've found to achieve 1000FPS. There was another thing that I read about if you're running a pure Intel based system (CPU and chipset and board), it is possible, but I don't have that kind of money to shell out on a whim. Any other suggestions, as I'd really like to have a standard install with the best performance possible out of the server? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Stanley Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:21 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage At 11:57 PM 3/6/2007, Dan E wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? attach process explorer to it to see what it's doing when it's spiking. Running windows without ACPI isn't recommended, especially on newer motherboards because ACPI enables quirks to get things to work properly. G. Stanley Engineering (AS36352) Velocity Servers, INC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] FPS Booster fixes the 64 FPS limit on the Windows Source DS, try that.. works fine. As Kevin mentioned It's not worth all the hassle to fuss with this issue. Dan E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? Setup: Windows 2003 Server EE x86 w/o ACPI (Standard PC in setup F5) AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 1.5GB DDR400 Gigabyte GA-K8U-939 mobo IDE 7200RPM 8mb cache drive 2 10/100 NICs Srcds 100tick 20 man CSSDM Thanks for any help or suggestions :-), Dan -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I should have also mentioned http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Tickrate On 3/7/07, Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] FPS Booster fixes the 64 FPS limit on the Windows Source DS, try that.. works fine. As Kevin mentioned It's not worth all the hassle to fuss with this issue. Dan E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? Setup: Windows 2003 Server EE x86 w/o ACPI (Standard PC in setup F5) AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 1.5GB DDR400 Gigabyte GA-K8U-939 mobo IDE 7200RPM 8mb cache drive 2 10/100 NICs Srcds 100tick 20 man CSSDM Thanks for any help or suggestions :-), Dan -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 1000fps is pointless in SRCDS, and probably not physically possible currently if actually had enough players that required that much I/O per second. Your main limiting factor is always going to be the tickrate. Since nobody is going to be running a tickrate higher than 100, you only need enough fps to ensure timely processing of players incoming and outgoing packets. 512 fps produces plenty of I/O opportunities for a war server to always ensure players receive the most up to date picture of what is going on. 512fps is also typically going to be plenty for most player numbers, unless of course you manage to somehow get a computer that can run a 64 player server at 100 tick and have every player on the server trying to send and receive 100 updates a second. Good luck trying to sustain even 512fps in that scenario with current cpu power! On 3/7/07, Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, The difference between a 1ms (1000fps) and a 2ms (500fps) server is insignificant and players can't see the difference. It's not worth all the hassle to fuss with this issue, much better to spend time on the day-today running of the server and focus on having a stable server that delivers predictable performance for players. - Original Message - From: Dan E To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Weird CPU usage What should I be looking for in Process Explorer? I didn't want to disable ACPI, but that's the only way that I've found to achieve 1000FPS. There was another thing that I read about if you're running a pure Intel based system (CPU and chipset and board), it is possible, but I don't have that kind of money to shell out on a whim. Any other suggestions, as I'd really like to have a standard install with the best performance possible out of the server? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Stanley Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:21 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Weird CPU usage At 11:57 PM 3/6/2007, Dan E wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, I just re-installed my server 2003 setup without ACPI as I heard that without ACPI 1000FPS on Srcds was attainable (and achieved this myself on a test box). Now with this disabled, I'm getting very very strange usage; the srcds.exe process will spike up to 95-100%, then back down to 0%, back and forth over and over giving the appearance of a sine wave. Before the re-install, I never saw any usage like this.. it was a relatively flat line. I don't know why this would happen. does anybody have any ideas other than ACPI? Or perhaps a different way to attain 1000FPS? attach process explorer to it to see what it's doing when it's spiking. Running windows without ACPI isn't recommended, especially on newer motherboards because ACPI enables quirks to get things to work properly. G. Stanley Engineering (AS36352) Velocity Servers, INC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Weird CPU usage
At 12:30 AM 3/7/2007, Dan E wrote: What should I be looking for in Process Explorer? I didn't want to disable ACPI, but that's the only way that I've found to achieve 1000FPS. There was another thing that I read about if you're running a pure Intel based system (CPU and chipset and board), it is possible, but I don't have that kind of money to shell out on a whim. Any other suggestions, as I'd really like to have a standard install with the best performance possible out of the server? Dan The only way to really 'get' that many fps is: a.) Use a real time OS, (RTX for windows) b.) Don't use HAL/MPS at all (aka standard pc) c.) Don't use windows at all. d.) Figure out if you can use a GPS for an external timing source on windows FWIW windows vista's sleep(1) return *about* 1.6 with HPET as it's primary timer source, 1000 / 1.5 = 625fps. So, the max you can go on vista is a little higher than on server 2003. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
