RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 23:16, Ronin wrote: What I find most funny is that everyone else is wrong and he is right. Typical child mentality. And your information is STILL wrong, Stefan. *chuckles* So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? What's to discuss? SCSI is obviously a great thing if you've got the extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, but it's simply a question of whether you can fit it into your budget. Personally, I'm happy with my 8MB cache WD SE IDE drives. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
You have those, too? :) Only thing running SCSI drives atm are my servers, actually. I don't care as much about the performance on my home boxes. I am to provide a good server for my players...the rest I can handle on my own. - Original Message - From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 23:16, Ronin wrote: What I find most funny is that everyone else is wrong and he is right. Typical child mentality. And your information is STILL wrong, Stefan. *chuckles* So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? What's to discuss? SCSI is obviously a great thing if you've got the extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, but it's simply a question of whether you can fit it into your budget. Personally, I'm happy with my 8MB cache WD SE IDE drives. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
Deacon said: So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? What's to discuss? SCSI is obviously a great thing if you've got the extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, but it's simply a question of whether you can fit it into your budget. Personally, I'm happy with my 8MB cache WD SE IDE drives. I find RAM is a lot cheaper than a SCSI setup. I just stuck enough RAM in the box so that the entire map rotation is in cache. Except for logging, which is buffered, the disk light never blinks after the first full cycle, and those few blinks are so brief they are difficult to see. Nobody can tell the difference on the server. :-) -Mad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
Matt said: 2:00pm EST - IDE vs SCSI flamewar 4:00pm EST - Cheating flamewar 5:00pm EST - Opera 6:00pm EST - flamewar flamewar 10:00pm EST - someone unsubscribes and sends scathing goodbye note 10:01pm EST - huge flamewar 12:00pm EST - someone posts legit question inciting a flamewar Can you translate EST into UTC so I can figure out what time that is in my local time zone? -Mad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
Matt wrote: So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? Yes :) -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
Oscar N aka 'Dreadful' wrote: hmm, how do you get the following to search? :P Not sure what you mean. What I meant is tehre isn't a way (that I know of) to search the archives like the Search function in any forum. Sure you can go look at the archives and do some sorting. But it takes a long time to find stuff sometimes if it was discussed a while ago. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
Well... Not to egg things on but I would be interested in everyones take on this. Personally I've got 10k U160 drives in two of my PCs at home. One PC is IDE as are the servers. I know I know, kinda stupid. But my servers don't do much but store mp3s. :P Now, I'm getting ready to set up a server for my training room. I'm going to be running Linux on it. I'm going to use it to store Ghost images. I'll be restoring the images on 15 computers at a time. As long as I can get all the computers done in 60 min I'm happy. I really have 2 hours but... From what I could tell current top of the line IDE hard drives can put out 30MB/sec where current top of the line SCSI hard drives can put out 40MB/sec. I got this information from storagereview.com. I haven't seen the test results on the 10k SATA drives yet but I don't think I would go that way. Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Linux's support for SCSI hard drives much better than it's support for UDMA chipsets? Won't I have a better chance getting the drive's maximum performance if I go SCSI? If that's not true, then I would prefer to save the money and go IDE. On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 23:16, Ronin wrote: What I find most funny is that everyone else is wrong and he is right. Typical child mentality. And your information is STILL wrong, Stefan. *chuckles* So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
No, but AMD ownz, Intel sux. Oh, and RedHat ownz, slack sux. So does all *BSD. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: hlds Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 23:16, Ronin wrote: What I find most funny is that everyone else is wrong and he is right. Typical child mentality. And your information is STILL wrong, Stefan. *chuckles* So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? -- Matt http://www.playway.net ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
No, but AMD ownz, Intel sux. Oh, and RedHat ownz, slack sux. So does all *BSD. Hondaman, you're a fucktard. Though I use and support the items you listed, you're a fucktard. Extremists are fucktards. - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
m0gely wrote: Not sure what you mean. What I meant is tehre isn't a way (that I know of) to search the archives like the Search function in any forum. Bah, that should have read: There isn't a way I know of... -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
WOAH WOAH, settle down cowboy. Guess I needed a :) at the end. Some peoples kidz... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Overkill Schwend Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? No, but AMD ownz, Intel sux. Oh, and RedHat ownz, slack sux. So does all *BSD. Hondaman, you're a fucktard. Though I use and support the items you listed, you're a fucktard. Extremists are fucktards. - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] OMG! Another new thread ;-)
Sorry - where from? The link in the downloads section there actually redirects you through to the Metamod site. Is there somewhere else on the site with the source? Thanks, Stu -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2003 21:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OMG! Another new thread ;-) You can download the source at www.amxmod.net. Justin - Original Message - From: Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] OMG! Another new thread ;-) Hi everyone, With the metamod site down atm, anyone know of a decent mirror of the site? I need to get the Linux source, and whatever docs would normally be found on the site. United Admins only have the .so - I'm a noob at this, and I need all I can get so I can write some scripts to automate building a server. Thanks, Stu -- PS: What's the point of having an announce list if announcements end up on this one instead? Surely a properly moderated announce list, which accepts announcements from more than just Valve, would have been the place for HLG 1.40's fuck up^h^h^hretraction to have been posted? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo /hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
Andy Hodges wrote: I just find it funny that one person hasn't said, Well I use name here distro because ... or, I use FreeBSD because... Instead I keep getting messages about a Phantom search button. LOL! You have been on this list long enough to see a thread like this 2 or 3 times? Run what your comfy with, use the 2.4.9 kernel, and don't run it as root. Any flavor of Linux or *bsd with Linux compat runs hlds servers just fine. Security and stabilty reside with you and the hardware you choose. I use FreeBSD because it was what I chose at the time. And once I learn something, I like to stick with it so that I really know it. No matter what reason I give beyond that, someone will refute it. Certain distro's may have there good points over others, but for hlds and other games, I don't think it matters. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
Jeremy Brooking said: 2am Flamewar over who started the flamewar Not sure if I can make that one. Is it OK if I post the next morning? -Mad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
I would love to hear some reasons why some people think the 2.4.9 kernel was better? kev --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m0gely -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:08 PM -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - -Andy Hodges wrote: - I just find it funny that one person hasn't said, Well I use -name here - distro because ... or, I use FreeBSD because... - - Instead I keep getting messages about a Phantom search button. - - LOL! - -You have been on this list long enough to see a thread like this -2 or 3 times? Run what your comfy with, use the 2.4.9 kernel, -and don't run it as root. Any flavor of Linux or *bsd with Linux -compat runs hlds servers just fine. Security and stabilty reside -with you and the hardware you choose. - -I use FreeBSD because it was what I chose at the time. And once -I learn something, I like to stick with it so that I really know -it. No matter what reason I give beyond that, someone will -refute it. Certain distro's may have there good points over -others, but for hlds and other games, I don't think it matters. - --- -- m0gely -http://quake2.telestream.com/ -Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike - -___ -To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list -archives, please visit: -http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
Testing. I've tested several of the 2.4.18x kernels, and performance was abysmal in comparison. Never put down any numbers, but it was so evident that I'd have to say at least a 30-40% change. The main gains showed, for me at least, when running multiple servers per machine. - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? I would love to hear some reasons why some people think the 2.4.9 kernel was better? kev --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m0gely -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:08 PM -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - -Andy Hodges wrote: - I just find it funny that one person hasn't said, Well I use -name here - distro because ... or, I use FreeBSD because... - - Instead I keep getting messages about a Phantom search button. - - LOL! - -You have been on this list long enough to see a thread like this -2 or 3 times? Run what your comfy with, use the 2.4.9 kernel, -and don't run it as root. Any flavor of Linux or *bsd with Linux -compat runs hlds servers just fine. Security and stabilty reside -with you and the hardware you choose. - -I use FreeBSD because it was what I chose at the time. And once -I learn something, I like to stick with it so that I really know -it. No matter what reason I give beyond that, someone will -refute it. Certain distro's may have there good points over -others, but for hlds and other games, I don't think it matters. - --- -- m0gely -http://quake2.telestream.com/ -Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike - -___ -To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list -archives, please visit: -http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
smp? vanilla kernel, redhat kernel? kev --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DLinkOZ -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:59 PM -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - -Testing. I've tested several of the 2.4.18x kernels, and performance was -abysmal in comparison. Never put down any numbers, but it was so evident -that I'd have to say at least a 30-40% change. The main gains showed, for -me at least, when running multiple servers per machine. - - -- Original Message - -From: Kevin J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:54 PM -Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - - I would love to hear some reasons why some people think the 2.4.9 kernel -was - better? - - kev - - --Original Message- - -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m0gely - -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:08 PM - -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - - - - -Andy Hodges wrote: - - I just find it funny that one person hasn't said, Well I use - -name here - - distro because ... or, I use FreeBSD because... - - - - Instead I keep getting messages about a Phantom search button. - - - - LOL! - - - -You have been on this list long enough to see a thread like this - -2 or 3 times? Run what your comfy with, use the 2.4.9 kernel, - -and don't run it as root. Any flavor of Linux or *bsd with Linux - -compat runs hlds servers just fine. Security and stabilty reside - -with you and the hardware you choose. - - - -I use FreeBSD because it was what I chose at the time. And once - -I learn something, I like to stick with it so that I really know - -it. No matter what reason I give beyond that, someone will - -refute it. Certain distro's may have there good points over - -others, but for hlds and other games, I don't think it matters. - - - --- - -- m0gely - -http://quake2.telestream.com/ - -Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike - - - -___ - -To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list - -archives, please visit: - -http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - - ___ - To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, -please visit: - http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - - - - -___ -To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list -archives, please visit: -http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
Both smp Intel and single cpu, both AMD and Intel. Using Redhat kernels. - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? smp? vanilla kernel, redhat kernel? kev --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DLinkOZ -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:59 PM -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - -Testing. I've tested several of the 2.4.18x kernels, and performance was -abysmal in comparison. Never put down any numbers, but it was so evident -that I'd have to say at least a 30-40% change. The main gains showed, for -me at least, when running multiple servers per machine. - - -- Original Message - -From: Kevin J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:54 PM -Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - - I would love to hear some reasons why some people think the 2.4.9 kernel -was - better? - - kev - - --Original Message- - -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m0gely - -Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:08 PM - -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor? - - - - - -Andy Hodges wrote: - - I just find it funny that one person hasn't said, Well I use - -name here - - distro because ... or, I use FreeBSD because... - - - - Instead I keep getting messages about a Phantom search button. - - - - LOL! - - - -You have been on this list long enough to see a thread like this - -2 or 3 times? Run what your comfy with, use the 2.4.9 kernel, - -and don't run it as root. Any flavor of Linux or *bsd with Linux - -compat runs hlds servers just fine. Security and stabilty reside - -with you and the hardware you choose. - - - -I use FreeBSD because it was what I chose at the time. And once - -I learn something, I like to stick with it so that I really know - -it. No matter what reason I give beyond that, someone will - -refute it. Certain distro's may have there good points over - -others, but for hlds and other games, I don't think it matters. - - - --- - -- m0gely - -http://quake2.telestream.com/ - -Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike - - - -___ - -To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list - -archives, please visit: - -http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - - ___ - To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, -please visit: - http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - - - - -___ -To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list -archives, please visit: -http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Re: OMG! Another new thread ;-)
Much appreciated! Best regards, Stu -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Day Sent: 13 March 2003 23:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: OMG! Another new thread ;-) A short time ago, at a computer terminal far, far away, Stuart Herbert wrote: With the metamod site down atm, anyone know of a decent mirror of the site? I need to get the Linux source, and whatever docs would normally be found on the site. United Admins only have the .so - I'm a noob at this, and I need all I can get so I can write some scripts to automate building a server. I've put up a temp download site at: http://dl2.metamod.org/ Pretty much all the docs on the site should be included in the sourcecode archive; if there's something missing that you're looking for, let me know. Sorry for the inconvenience; I hope to have the full site back up in the normal location in the next couple days. -- Will Day Those who would give up essential Liberty, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither UNIX System ProgrammerLiberty nor Safety. Atlanta, GA - Benjamin Franklin, Penn. Assembly, Nov. 11, 1755 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo /hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLG 1.40
www.hlguard.com is broken. - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] OMG! a NEW thread! amx and ptb
No i haven't experienced *that* specific problem. However, I am experiencing it killing players to switch them even tho in the config deadonly is set to ON. I set this in the sma as well and recompiled and it still does it. So my guess is that this first version of ptb for AMX is a lil buggy. --- hondaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Di Schino Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OMG! a NEW thread! amx and ptb which version of PTB are you using? the port that OLO did to AMX? --- hondaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Anyone use this combo? Anyone use this combo and have problems with people dying, and not respawning round after round after round? hondaman - admin www.hardgaming.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLG 1.40
Tyler \Overkill\ Schwend wrote: www.hlguard.com is broken. Fixed. Thank you. HoundDawg Director, Web Development http://www.unitedadmins.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
That doesn't seem like 1 single array :P And you know that we'll have to kill you when you write stuff like C: /Oscar Ronin wrote: C: 95.13GB out of 114.47GB F: 14.53GB out of 19.06GB H: 1.05GB out of 271.98GB I: 1.03GB out of 4GB P: 65.64GB out of 739.44GB q: 35.88GB out of 679.94GB r: 316.38GB out of 679.99GB s: 1.03GB out of 50.99GB I have 530.67GB free out of 2559.87GB available IRC script I have that shows what I have in space on each one of my drives. Now THAT is a raid array :) - Original Message - From: Oscar N aka 'Dreadful' [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? bah, stop telling yourself lies. I mean, if you don't want to go with scsi raid, then who can resist an 3ware escalade controller with 12 120gb IDE discs ;) No, time to sleep and wake up 6hours later with 284new messages from this spam list :P /Oscar Me wrote: Yes that would be great. But do I _NEED_ the additional speed? Can I do what I need in 60 minutes if I use IDE? I would use some sort of RAID add-on controller (any suggestions?). Here are the three configurations I might want to use: 2 WD1200BB hard drives on RAID 0 (Western Digital 120GB 8mb 7200rpm buffer) 4 WD400JB hard drives on RAID 0 (Western Digital 40GB 8mb 7200rpm buffer) 3 KW018L2 hard drives on RAID 0 (Quantum Atlas II 18GB 10k rpm SCSI 160) I don't think space will be an issue. I don't imagine using more than 20GB. /me think you should buy four 15k rpm scsi drives, put them in an raid 0 array and hell we got some spd :) Me wrote: Well... Not to egg things on but I would be interested in everyones take on this. Personally I've got 10k U160 drives in two of my PCs at home. One PC is IDE as are the servers. I know I know, kinda stupid. But my servers don't do much but store mp3s. :P Now, I'm getting ready to set up a server for my training room. I'm going to be running Linux on it. I'm going to use it to store Ghost images. I'll be restoring the images on 15 computers at a time. As long as I can get all the computers done in 60 min I'm happy. I really have 2 hours but... From what I could tell current top of the line IDE hard drives can put out 30MB/sec where current top of the line SCSI hard drives can put out 40MB/sec. I got this information from storagereview.com. I haven't seen the test results on the 10k SATA drives yet but I don't think I would go that way. Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Linux's support for SCSI hard drives much better than it's support for UDMA chipsets? Won't I have a better chance getting the drive's maximum performance if I go SCSI? If that's not true, then I would prefer to save the money and go IDE. On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 23:16, Ronin wrote: What I find most funny is that everyone else is wrong and he is right. Typical child mentality. And your information is STILL wrong, Stefan. *chuckles* So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
/snicker Sorry..can't do a lot of stuff I need to do on Linux, and VMWare doesn't cut it. And you're right, it's not one single array, it's multiples. - Original Message - From: Oscar N aka 'Dreadful' [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? That doesn't seem like 1 single array :P And you know that we'll have to kill you when you write stuff like C: /Oscar Ronin wrote: C: 95.13GB out of 114.47GB F: 14.53GB out of 19.06GB H: 1.05GB out of 271.98GB I: 1.03GB out of 4GB P: 65.64GB out of 739.44GB q: 35.88GB out of 679.94GB r: 316.38GB out of 679.99GB s: 1.03GB out of 50.99GB I have 530.67GB free out of 2559.87GB available IRC script I have that shows what I have in space on each one of my drives. Now THAT is a raid array :) - Original Message - From: Oscar N aka 'Dreadful' [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? bah, stop telling yourself lies. I mean, if you don't want to go with scsi raid, then who can resist an 3ware escalade controller with 12 120gb IDE discs ;) No, time to sleep and wake up 6hours later with 284new messages from this spam list :P /Oscar Me wrote: Yes that would be great. But do I _NEED_ the additional speed? Can I do what I need in 60 minutes if I use IDE? I would use some sort of RAID add-on controller (any suggestions?). Here are the three configurations I might want to use: 2 WD1200BB hard drives on RAID 0 (Western Digital 120GB 8mb 7200rpm buffer) 4 WD400JB hard drives on RAID 0 (Western Digital 40GB 8mb 7200rpm buffer) 3 KW018L2 hard drives on RAID 0 (Quantum Atlas II 18GB 10k rpm SCSI 160) I don't think space will be an issue. I don't imagine using more than 20GB. /me think you should buy four 15k rpm scsi drives, put them in an raid 0 array and hell we got some spd :) Me wrote: Well... Not to egg things on but I would be interested in everyones take on this. Personally I've got 10k U160 drives in two of my PCs at home. One PC is IDE as are the servers. I know I know, kinda stupid. But my servers don't do much but store mp3s. :P Now, I'm getting ready to set up a server for my training room. I'm going to be running Linux on it. I'm going to use it to store Ghost images. I'll be restoring the images on 15 computers at a time. As long as I can get all the computers done in 60 min I'm happy. I really have 2 hours but... From what I could tell current top of the line IDE hard drives can put out 30MB/sec where current top of the line SCSI hard drives can put out 40MB/sec. I got this information from storagereview.com. I haven't seen the test results on the 10k SATA drives yet but I don't think I would go that way. Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Linux's support for SCSI hard drives much better than it's support for UDMA chipsets? Won't I have a better chance getting the drive's maximum performance if I go SCSI? If that's not true, then I would prefer to save the money and go IDE. On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 23:16, Ronin wrote: What I find most funny is that everyone else is wrong and he is right. Typical child mentality. And your information is STILL wrong, Stefan. *chuckles* So, anyone up for some good SCSI vs IDE action? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Which distro / How many servers?
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 16:21, Kevin J. Anderson wrote: hmmm, almost all of my nics use intel's e100 driver, IE not mii dependant ;/ anyone have any idea on how to get the said info? I dont really need it, but just for knowledges sake ; ) kev No idea sorry. Specifying media type with ifconfig work? Here is the readme for the e100 driver: ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/2896/ENG/e100.txt There is also a SNMP agent and some vlan stuff (iANS) --- marius ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? [OT]
If you would only go look up the definition you would see but you won't. You will simply hold to your incorrect thoughts. Go read a book. Nuff said. On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 18:04, Me wrote: Just because you've done something for a long time doesn't mean you've been doing it right. Not that I'm saying you are doing it wrong, I've never seen your work. Just saying that's no proof. Oh of course not, im sure you know far more than I. Hence why you regard ZoneAlarm as a firewall. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons?
I did a 2GB copy from Linux to a Windows machine using Samba. I got 5.85MB/sec. Hint: use FTP instead. I can max out my 100Mb switched network connection between my workstation and server using FTP, literally pushing 95Mb to 97Mb, sustained. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? [OT]
Oh of course not, im sure you know far more than I. Hence why you regard ZoneAlarm as a firewall. Of course, I still see people referring to home NAT devices as routers, too, so... -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? [OT]
A home NAT box is a router. It is routing packets between your local network and your DSL connection (and performing NAT on the packets). A router routes packets :) Eric (Deacon) wrote: Oh of course not, im sure you know far more than I. Hence why you regard ZoneAlarm as a firewall. Of course, I still see people referring to home NAT devices as routers, too, so... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLG 1.40
*rimshot* We all knew it was coming, just a question of who :) Was just trying to get in before Eric did :) I didn't realize he was joking. I'd fired up a good 4-page essay, dripping with venom and burning sarcasm. Oh well, I guess it'll just sit in my Drafts folder for a while :\ -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Dualie Athlons? [OT]
Deacon said: Oh of course not, im sure you know far more than I. Hence why you regard ZoneAlarm as a firewall. Of course, I still see people referring to home NAT devices as routers, too, so... A NAT device is a router... it has different subnets on each interface, doesn't it? And ZoneAlarm is also a firewall... just a very simple one. Firewalls can include everything from a simple host-based packet filter to a multi-level stateful packet filter/NAT/proxy all on different devices and platforms across several subnets. -Mad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] What Linux Flavor?
I would love to hear some reasons why some people think the 2.4.9 kernel was better? I'm guessing so, yes. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
