RE: [hlds_linux] more steam errors
thanks, it fixed the error. Cheers At 15:43 28/09/03 -0700, you wrote: Delete your ClientRegistry.blob and run the update again. Somehow you managed to download the update but it couldn't install (make sure the user you run the tool as has write permissions to its binary). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Anyone know why Im gettign this when trying to update my linux server? ( CS ) Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation No installation record found at . Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 0 ContentServer rejected client's protocol version Ive created a new account, and it does it straight away. Ive downloaded the hldsupdate tool, and it does it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Signature check failed for Checksum block
Updating 'cstrike content' from version 0 to version 1 Signature check failed for Checksum block this has been posted quite a few times to the list. could anyone please explain what kind of problem that is and even more important how to fix it ? thx in advance ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Lets not deny that this release is using A LOT more cpu than the last. Its pretty much FACT - unless you happen to be one of the lucky few with a SUPER KERNEL that runs 5% cpu with a 32 player serverand we all know that's bs. Sorry James, but I have to deny it, because it's true. I've spent more time looking at top on full gameservers in my life than I care to admit, and 1.6 runs as well or better than 1.5. 18 players never even spikes past 35%, even on office or aztec, running a single P4 and Slack 8. Terribly sorry for the issues you and a few others seem to be having...but don't say it can't be done. Best of luck to you. Oh, and to the original question in this thread...I wouldn't hang a winblows box out on the Internet unless I was a masochist ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Sorry James, but I have to deny it, because it's true. I've spent more Doh. Broke my own rule and wrote an email before my first cup of coffee. I obviously meant, I have to deny it, because it's false BTW, that's with MM 1.16.2, AM 2.50.57-beta, StatsMe 2.71 and VAC running, with pingboost at -3. ...coffee ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Who said this release is laggy? Sure it uses more CPU but as long as your machine can handle it there is no problem. In fact I'm pretty sure this release performs better for the client , not so much on linux, but in windows it seems quite a lot better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Britt Priddy (PZGN) Sent: 29 September 2003 05:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Not saying that - we run no more than 2 hlds procs per machine - never a 20/20 player server on the same box - maybe a 14 player with a 20 player - and league matches have a occured these past few days and the only complaint is the Spec bug in TFC - (server locking up / freezing) - thats it - no complaints of lag/choke, etc, etc... So no matter what numbers are saying - as long as it performs as it has - no problems on our endso far...*cough* Britt - Original Message - From: James Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Lets not deny that this release is using A LOT more cpu than the last. Its pretty much FACT - unless you happen to be one of the lucky few with a SUPER KERNEL that runs 5% cpu with a 32 player serverand we all know that's bs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Britt Priddy (PZGN) Sent: 29 September 2003 03:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? exactly what m0gely said. less CPU for me on AMD 2800+ - Original Message - From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? James Sykes wrote: If the new linux HLDS is really doubling CPU usage over 3.1.1.0c then how in the world can I host enough games to cover the cost of my server? You don't :) At 14 players in de_aztec, I don't see anywhere near double the CPU. It's a little more, Double though? C'mon. Right now I have 14 players in de_inferno and it's 38% on my dual AMP MP 2400+. This is with MM 1.16, VAC, HLG 1.5, AMX 0.9.3 (stats disabled) and Statsme 2.7.1. This is hardly any different then before w/ 3.1.1.0c. It's not good, but not really any different. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
What speed is that p4? I get 35-40% cpu with 12 players playing Dust2. 2.4 Intel with Slack 8.1. Oh, and to the original question in this thread...I wouldn't hang a winblows box out on the Internet unless I was a masochist Enough of the windows bashing - its a great operating system if you know what your doing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bad ping Sent: 29 September 2003 14:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Lets not deny that this release is using A LOT more cpu than the last. Its pretty much FACT - unless you happen to be one of the lucky few with a SUPER KERNEL that runs 5% cpu with a 32 player serverand we all know that's bs. Sorry James, but I have to deny it, because it's true. I've spent more time looking at top on full gameservers in my life than I care to admit, and 1.6 runs as well or better than 1.5. 18 players never even spikes past 35%, even on office or aztec, running a single P4 and Slack 8. Terribly sorry for the issues you and a few others seem to be having...but don't say it can't be done. Best of luck to you. Oh, and to the original question in this thread...I wouldn't hang a winblows box out on the Internet unless I was a masochist ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] server configurations, that do work (was: crazy cpu usage)
hi! i would like to start a thread about which configurations really do work. because i have to assemble some servers during the next weeks, and would like to build a system where we can host more than 2/3 hlds based servers. i think, it would be nice make a list of the following parts: cpu model, motherboard, distribution, kernel (+ config options), glibc, hlds settings, which help you to run x servers once without any problem + anything else that comes to your mind, that could be important for hlds. best regards, raoul bhatia ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Not saying that - we run no more than 2 hlds procs per machine - never a 20/20 player server on the same box - maybe a 14 player with a 20 player - and league matches have a occured these past few days and the only complaint is the Spec bug in TFC - (server locking up / freezing) - thats it - no complaints of lag/choke, etc, etc... So no matter what numbers are saying - as long as it performs as it has - no problems on our endso far...*cough* LOL that explains it **cough** TFC **cough**. Come to the darkside my friend, CS awaits you! Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Terribly sorry for the issues you and a few others seem to be having...but don't say it can't be done. Best of luck to you. A few? I think we are the majority here. Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New binaries out but linux broken, Valve?
When Mine did this, I found something online that said to run this rm -rf ~/steam. It worked for me when I got this error. Nathan Griffin Systems/Networks Administrator nexAir, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1385 Corporate Ave. Memphis, TN 38132 (901) 344-5268 (Direct) (901) 344-5238 (Fax) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Adams Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New binaries out but linux broken, Valve? Is anyone else having this problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED] steam]# ./steam -update dod ./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Y Checking bootstrapper version ... Getting version 1 of Steam HLDS Update Tool Connection Reset [EMAIL PROTECTED] steam]# Seems my quick fix is for nothing if i'm not alone with this error :-) Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: Chris Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New binaries out but linux broken, Valve? Hi, I found that the quick fix to this problem is: ln -s /bin/gunzip /bin/uncompress Thanks, Chris Original Message: --- Hopefully valve gets this before they leave the office but the .bin file you uploaded to the ftp site for the steam final is broke for linux. Multiple people are getting this error Enter 'yes' to accept this agreement, 'no' to decline: yes sh: line 1: uncompress: command not found Broken pipe Thanks Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] server configurations, that do work (was: crazy cpu usage)
Either a quad (one cpu per hlds) monster, or use windows. (btw, your question cannot be answered as you don't include any info on map, players, mod, etc, but AMD is always the way to go until valve brush up their compilation) - Sindre = Original Message From Raoul Bhatia [EMAIL PROTECTED] = hi! i would like to start a thread about which configurations really do work. because i have to assemble some servers during the next weeks, and would like to build a system where we can host more than 2/3 hlds based servers. i think, it would be nice make a list of the following parts: cpu model, motherboard, distribution, kernel (+ config options), glibc, hlds settings, which help you to run x servers once without any problem + anything else that comes to your mind, that could be important for hlds. best regards, raoul bhatia ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
When a dual MP2800+ can't handle a lag-free 32 player server, IT IS LAGGY, period. - Sindre = Original Message From James Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Who said this release is laggy? Sure it uses more CPU but as long as your machine can handle it there is no problem. In fact I'm pretty sure this release performs better for the client , not so much on linux, but in windows it seems quite a lot better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Britt Priddy (PZGN) Sent: 29 September 2003 05:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Not saying that - we run no more than 2 hlds procs per machine - never a 20/20 player server on the same box - maybe a 14 player with a 20 player - and league matches have a occured these past few days and the only complaint is the Spec bug in TFC - (server locking up / freezing) - thats it - no complaints of lag/choke, etc, etc... So no matter what numbers are saying - as long as it performs as it has - no problems on our endso far...*cough* Britt - Original Message - From: James Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Lets not deny that this release is using A LOT more cpu than the last. Its pretty much FACT - unless you happen to be one of the lucky few with a SUPER KERNEL that runs 5% cpu with a 32 player serverand we all know that's bs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Britt Priddy (PZGN) Sent: 29 September 2003 03:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? exactly what m0gely said. less CPU for me on AMD 2800+ - Original Message - From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? James Sykes wrote: If the new linux HLDS is really doubling CPU usage over 3.1.1.0c then how in the world can I host enough games to cover the cost of my server? You don't :) At 14 players in de_aztec, I don't see anywhere near double the CPU. It's a little more, Double though? C'mon. Right now I have 14 players in de_inferno and it's 38% on my dual AMP MP 2400+. This is with MM 1.16, VAC, HLG 1.5, AMX 0.9.3 (stats disabled) and Statsme 2.7.1. This is hardly any different then before w/ 3.1.1.0c. It's not good, but not really any different. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Pingboost
Hi! Is it possible to get an *explanation* what -pingboost 1|2|3 actually DO? I mean, a documentation of that features ... Thanx, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369 | Mobil: 0178-2016033 AgainstTCPA.com | The war for digital freedom began in 2002 http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
A few? I think we are the majority here. An observation on human psychology: negative events are more often recollected than positive ones. From my perspective, I see a lot of people getting positive results here, enough to know that I'm far from alone. From the perspective of an admin having CPU issues, they see a lot of people having problems. I guess we could take a poll, but the effort at quantifying data would be better spent on something more productive. That performance database that was started here was a good idea, but it needs to be enhanced so that it correlates the CPU usages with the platforms. If this were taken systematically, it could be fairly easy to determine which platform/settings/software gives the best results. Flaming back and forth and carping about a _free product_ is not going to help anyone. Out of curiosity, if it turns out that your platform of choice was lousy at running hlds, would you switch to one that was better? [Mage]-BadPing- www.ClanMage.net ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Pingboost
Hi! Is it possible to get an *explanation* what -pingboost 1|2|3 actually DO? http://www.hlplayers.com/pingboost.html -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] server configurations, that do work (was: crazy cpu usage)
don't forget that any new slot on your server will increase the load exponetially! i mean 2 14slots cs servers will never have the load of a single 32slots one. here: on my barton 2800+, mobo abit nf7-s v2 (nforce2 ultra), fsb333, 1g ddr333 cl2, 3com python; i have 2 cs 1.5 servers atm. right now the pub's loaded with 18/20 players. linux. kernel 2.4.22. hlds 3110c+boffix v3 meta 1.16.2 adminmod 2.50.56a statsme 2.7.1 wwcl 1.0.0.2 vac no pingboost chk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# vmstat 1 procs memory swap io system cpu r b w swpd free buff cache si sobibo incs us sy idle 0 0 0 12648 15900 55648 76414400 219 6688 2 1 98 0 0 0 12648 15900 55648 76414400 0 0 983 261 0 1 99 0 0 0 12648 15900 55648 76414400 0 0 1014 259 0 0 100 0 0 0 12648 15892 55656 76414400 032 1004 265 0 1 99 0 0 0 12648 15892 55656 76414400 0 0 1005 259 0 0 100 0 0 0 12648 15892 55656 76414400 0 0 974 262 0 1 99 0 0 0 12648 15892 55656 76414400 0 0 988 260 0 2 98 0 0 0 12648 15884 55656 76414800 0 0 996 260 0 1 99 0 0 0 12648 15884 55656 76414800 032 929 268 0 1 99 0 0 0 12648 15884 55656 76414800 0 0 921 260 0 0 100 - i get rare spikes of 8-10% cpu load when both pub+kw servers are full (20+14slots). but it remains at 2-6% load most of the time. it's cs1.5 and my guess cpu model and fsb are the primary reasons for this low load. also a good mobo. and yea nforce with dual-channel ddr activated. 2 sticks of ram. hltv is also there on the box. and all my custom admin-mod plugins are rewrited by my or my brother for security/optimisation reason. and as a note: smp boxes i see behave worse on hlds than single ones. my money would go on xp26 and , single-cpu boxes, high FSB, high speed DDR (dual-channed when possibly). don't know about cs1.6, but 3110c behaves really good on my box here. as i said it remains at 2-6% load most of the time with both servers loaded (1pub 20slots/ 1kw 14slots). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
According to the great words of Sindre: You are so painfully wrong, stop pestering the list with such false bullshit, windows DOES RUN HLDS BETTER AT THE MOMENT. I never said it didn't. My exact words: I'm not in any way suggesting there isn't a difference. All I'm saying is that we do not have sufficient credible data at this time. All the bickering in the world will not convince Valve to solve the problem. But if we can get verifiable data, then we can get them to move. That's the point of gathering the data: to *prove* something that we already think is true. -Mad -- A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven. Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] sv_region WORLD
We will be updating the Master server to list everyone (irrespective of region) in the world list soon. - Alfred Brian A. Stumm wrote: Can we please do something about this? The current system is punishing the admins that actually know to set this flag... My two servers are the ONLY two servers listed under USWest (for TFC) and I constantly have to tell my clients to set the filter to USWest instead of world to find us. Those looking under WORLD canNOT find our servers. Please change this ASAP to list ALL servers under WORLD regardless of the sv_region setting... PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
In reply to: I can't do much about the number of results (I've tried to make it as easy as I could with that version checker thing) but tell me what you want it to sort by and I'll make it happen. Troy, thank you very much for setting that up. It's slick and very useful, it just needs a view all funtion and a sorter. And a ton of responsible, detailed submissions to it's database ;) It's important to set a standard, as in, are the numbers you're posting an average or a peak, how many iterations of the test etc. In this case the variation of the open source model is working against us. In return, it's forcing us all to learn some things about our systems that we might never have probed otherwise. Hell, I got into computers this way. I played Q2 one day almost 6 years ago, and I never got tired of figuring out how to make it better. Games come and go, but being an admin is a way of life. Anyway...enough nostalgia. What would be really be the heat would be for a 1337 coder to design an HLDS server benchmarker. Something with normalized results would be nice, with win32 and Linux/BSD distros. I bet Valve has a copy lying around the office somewhere :-/ -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] status question ( to end list bickering)
This is a questionaire for VALVE folks. 1) Are there performance probelms with the current hlds releases? 2) Do you have adequate information to validate one platform performing better (less poorly) than another? 3) We know there are many variables to consider. Have you found that particular combinations work better than others? Given the answers to the questions above, what configuration do you see working best? worst? AMD or Intel DDR or SDRAM IDE or SCSI Windows or Linux Which Windows OS (ME, NT, 2K, etc) Which Windows Service Pack Which Linux Distro (RedHat, FreeBSD, Debian, etc.) Which Linux Kernel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
You are so painfully wrong, stop pestering the list with such false bullshi t, windows DOES RUN HLDS BETTER AT THE MOMENT. Wow, this is like batting practice... Sindre, How about you write us up a little white paper on the differences between the way Task Manager, top in it's various revisions, and the hlds stats command measure, interpret, and display the actual, valid, real time system usage, load, and statistics of processes running under each and every one of the varied OSes, builds, kernels, platforms, omg I could go on all day but I'm farking tired but you get my basic point, then maybe, I'll listen to what you have to say about CPU usage as the definitive god's own truth and be silent. k? So if you have a tool that will give us this information, then speak up. If not, then go back to watching your CPU(s) spike. -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Daniel, I truly do apologize for your lack of basic education. It's breaking my heart. The rest of your post was all hot air, so I will let it vanish as such. Let me know when you have something to add to the discussion, besides your own exceptionally high opinion of yourself. Would anybody like to talk about any successes they've had with 1.6? Anything that's worked for them so far? -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
I have a pair of lucky underwear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bad ping Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Daniel, I truly do apologize for your lack of basic education. It's breaking my heart. The rest of your post was all hot air, so I will let it vanish as such. Let me know when you have something to add to the discussion, besides your own exceptionally high opinion of yourself. Would anybody like to talk about any successes they've had with 1.6? Anything that's worked for them so far? -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Better yet, why don't you? We've been over this. I run windows and linux servers. The windows servers outperform the linux ones time over time. Stop citing inaccurrate cpu reporting from either OS. If you wish to make such statements back them up with proof. My view that windows uses less CPU than linux is based on not only the task manager and top, but also latencies and FPS in game while under light ( 25% cpu) load and under heavy load (+90%). And not just one server, but many. If we can't trust top or taskmgr give me a break. Again, why don't YOU write the paper, stop batting the ball into the other court. James. - Original Message - From: bad ping [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? You are so painfully wrong, stop pestering the list with such false bullshi t, windows DOES RUN HLDS BETTER AT THE MOMENT. Wow, this is like batting practice... Sindre, How about you write us up a little white paper on the differences between the way Task Manager, top in it's various revisions, and the hlds stats command measure, interpret, and display the actual, valid, real time system usage, load, and statistics of processes running under each and every one of the varied OSes, builds, kernels, platforms, omg I could go on all day but I'm farking tired but you get my basic point, then maybe, I'll listen to what you have to say about CPU usage as the definitive god's own truth and be silent. k? So if you have a tool that will give us this information, then speak up. If not, then go back to watching your CPU(s) spike. -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] sv_region WORLD
I second that. Now having a true WORLD region is nuts. Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
According to the great words of James Couzens: If you wish to make such statements back them up with proof. That's exactly what we're trying to gather. -Mad -- A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven. Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
I have a pair of lucky underwear. Pink or Red? :D Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] sv_region WORLD
We will be updating the Master server to list everyone (irrespective of region) in the world list soon. - Alfred I love you Alfred, I offer up my girlfriends baby making capabilities in return! :P Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
I don't know enough about the HLDS to put something together like what you're talking about but the versions thing I did does some of that. It can be used as a guide for someone if they don't want to worry about that part (or contact me and maybe we can put something functional together). Would having a feature on that site where you could download the raw data (in pipe delimited, text format) help? That way, you can put it into Access, Excel or even your own programming to do with the data what you want to try and get to a solution quicker. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bad ping Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? In reply to: I can't do much about the number of results (I've tried to make it as easy as I could with that version checker thing) but tell me what you want it to sort by and I'll make it happen. Troy, thank you very much for setting that up. It's slick and very useful, it just needs a view all funtion and a sorter. And a ton of responsible, detailed submissions to it's database ;) It's important to set a standard, as in, are the numbers you're posting an average or a peak, how many iterations of the test etc. In this case the variation of the open source model is working against us. In return, it's forcing us all to learn some things about our systems that we might never have probed otherwise. Hell, I got into computers this way. I played Q2 one day almost 6 years ago, and I never got tired of figuring out how to make it better. Games come and go, but being an admin is a way of life. Anyway...enough nostalgia. What would be really be the heat would be for a 1337 coder to design an HLDS server benchmarker. Something with normalized results would be nice, with win32 and Linux/BSD distros. I bet Valve has a copy lying around the office somewhere :-/ -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 9/23/2003 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
Is there a server side commandline way to query a running hlds server as to number of
players
and their pings?
maybe telnet to the server port and send whatever command?
I could scan the proces table for any running hlds
parse the output for the mods/ports/max players or consult the config files for same.
query the running servers for player numbers and ping
look at /proc/PROCESS# for performance stats
look at /proc/cpuinfo for hardware config.
look at /proc/loadaverage
rpm -qa | awk '/gcc/{print}/kern/{print}' | sort
do performance samples for 5-10 minutes and normalize them
Then post the results to a webserver that stores it in a mysql database so that you
can sort
and search on any key phrase.
Further updates::
add data gather to cron and update your entries over time.
- Original Message -
From: bad ping [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
In reply to:
I can't do much about the number of results (I've tried to make it as
easy as I could with that version checker thing) but tell me what you
want it to sort by and I'll make it happen.
Troy, thank you very much for setting that up. It's slick and very useful, it
just needs a view all funtion and a sorter. And a ton of responsible, detailed
submissions to it's database ;)
It's important to set a standard, as in, are the numbers you're
posting an average or a peak, how many iterations of the test etc. In this
case the variation of the open source model is working against us. In return,
it's forcing us all to learn some things about our systems that we might never
have probed otherwise. Hell, I got into computers this way. I played Q2 one
day almost 6 years ago, and I never got tired of figuring out how to make it
better. Games come and go, but being an admin is a way of life.
Anyway...enough nostalgia.
What would be really be the heat would be for a 1337 coder to design an HLDS
server benchmarker. Something with normalized results would be nice, with
win32 and Linux/BSD distros.
I bet Valve has a copy lying around the office somewhere :-/
-BP
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Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?
James Couzens wrote: Better yet, why don't you? I'm hoping that if people keep asking that question enough that eventually some bright person will get annoyed and answer it, so that we can all stop watching our resource viewer of choice and get back to killing each other. Troy, comma delimited would be fine :P -BP ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] sv_region WORLD
How about a sv_region for us Canadians :) Alfred Reynolds wrote: We will be updating the Master server to list everyone (irrespective of region) in the world list soon. - Alfred Brian A. Stumm wrote: Can we please do something about this? The current system is punishing the admins that actually know to set this flag... My two servers are the ONLY two servers listed under USWest (for TFC) and I constantly have to tell my clients to set the filter to USWest instead of world to find us. Those looking under WORLD canNOT find our servers. Please change this ASAP to list ALL servers under WORLD regardless of the sv_region setting... PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- [TRiBForCe]Hawk main website: http://www.tribforceclan.net maps website: http://files.tribforceclan.net CS Server 24 ppl @ 139.142.185.228:27015 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] HLTV won't load hltv.cfg
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Even if I put +exec hltv.cfg the bot will load default settings ie: name: HLTV proxy instead of whatever I edit it. Anyone know why? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
