RE: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Could you make this cvar a public one so server query tools can filter by it? Thanks! ~dvander > There will be a cvar controlling this new functionality, > mp_dynamicpricing, you can disable it if you wish by setting its value to > 0. > > - Alfred > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I think this would be an bad and stupid update. >> >> One idea for these changes to alfred. >> >> It must be possible to switch off this price changes with an cvar for >> warservers. So nobody must change his buytactics every week. >> >> >> regards >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ryan >> Devonshire >> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. September 2006 14:13 >> An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com >> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing >> >> Oh dear Valve.. >> >> Truely is the worse update I've seen. ever. An update every Monday to >> the price lists? Thats just going to be a pain in the arse. >> >> William Warren wrote: >>> can this be disabled? >>> >>> >>> William Warren wrote: Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. Patrick Haverkamp wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the > server side... > > On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> has nothing to do with real life. >> if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would >> only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the >> prices again. >> >> if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why >> does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. >> why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. >> >> MY Opinion: >> 1. the price will change in waves: >> awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> >> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... >> >> 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. >> kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s >> >> Leo >> >> >> Dan schrieb: >>> Haha, Valve tries too hard. >>> >>> Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as >>> much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line >>> to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with >>> this. >>> If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, >>> he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in >>> realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - >>> From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM >>> Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing >>> >>> Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what >> I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To uns
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
You know, these information could have been released much earlier along the steam news because there is a petition with over 5000 names regarding over this issue already and people all over irc-channels have cursed this update to the ground. Next time to avoid "worthless efforts" by community, please include more detailed information to the news. Thanks -ics Alfred Reynolds kirjoitti: There will be a cvar controlling this new functionality, mp_dynamicpricing, you can disable it if you wish by setting its value to 0. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Alfred Reynolds wrote: There will be a cvar controlling this new functionality, mp_dynamicpricing, you can disable it if you wish by setting its value to 0. Thank goodness for that or it would cause chaos for competitions. TBH not sure many will leave it enabled as people generally dont like unpredictability. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
There will be a cvar controlling this new functionality, mp_dynamicpricing, you can disable it if you wish by setting its value to 0. - Alfred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi guys, > > I think this would be an bad and stupid update. > > One idea for these changes to alfred. > > It must be possible to switch off this price changes with an cvar for > warservers. So nobody must change his buytactics every week. > > > regards > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ryan > Devonshire > Gesendet: Samstag, 23. September 2006 14:13 > An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing > > Oh dear Valve.. > > Truely is the worse update I've seen. ever. An update every Monday to > the price lists? Thats just going to be a pain in the arse. > > William Warren wrote: >> can this be disabled? >> >> >> William Warren wrote: >>> Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. >>> >>> Patrick Haverkamp wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server side... On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > has nothing to do with real life. > if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would > only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the > prices again. > > if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why > does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. > why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. > > MY Opinion: > 1. the price will change in waves: > awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> > noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... > > 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. > kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s > > Leo > > > Dan schrieb: >> Haha, Valve tries too hard. >> >> Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as >> much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line >> to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with >> this. >> If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, >> he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in >> realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - >> From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM >> Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing >> >> >>> Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST >>> thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you >>> who do not know what > I >>> am >>> talking about, read up at >>> http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It >>> appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin >>> CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative >>> to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming >>> venues. Poor play. >>> >>> J. Laws >>> Hi-Definition Gaming LLC >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> -- >>> My "Foundation" verse: >>> Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and >>> every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt >>> condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their >>> righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. >>> >>> -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" >>> CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) >>> >>> Linux user #322099 >>> Machines: >>> 206822 >>> 256638 >>> 276825 >>> http://counter.li.org/ >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> -- >> My "Foundation" verse: >> Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall pro
AW: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Hi guys, I think this would be an bad and stupid update. One idea for these changes to alfred. It must be possible to switch off this price changes with an cvar for warservers. So nobody must change his buytactics every week. regards -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ryan Devonshire Gesendet: Samstag, 23. September 2006 14:13 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Oh dear Valve.. Truely is the worse update I've seen. ever. An update every Monday to the price lists? Thats just going to be a pain in the arse. William Warren wrote: > can this be disabled? > > > William Warren wrote: >> Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. >> >> Patrick Haverkamp wrote: >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server >>> side... >>> >>> On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: > Haha, Valve tries too hard. > > Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as > real > life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before > going too > far, and I think they crossed it with this. > If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she > should > no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just > respawn =] > - Original Message - > From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM > Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing > > >> Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing >> VALVe >> has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know >> what I >> am >> talking about, read up at >> http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It >> appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to >> prevent >> the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online >> competitive >> and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. >> >> J. Laws >> Hi-Definition Gaming LLC >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> -- >> My "Foundation" verse: >> Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and >> every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt >> condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their >> righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. >> >> -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" >> CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) >> >> Linux user #322099 >> Machines: >> 206822 >> 256638 >> 276825 >> http://counter.li.org/ >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > -- > My "Foundation" verse: > Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and > every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt > condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their > righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. > > -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" > CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) > > L
[hlds_linux] Re: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #5241 - 8 msgs
VAC2 is only for 32bit binaries add this to your command line -binary ./hlds_amd and change your 64bit amx to 32bit amx. Thanks Adam - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #5241 - 8 msgs Send hlds_linux mailing list submissions to hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of hlds_linux digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Error! Server verification failed (Marcel Beringer) 2. RE: Error! Server verification failed (Knuts - jolt.co.uk) 3. RE: Error! Server verification failed (Marcel Beringer) 4. RE: Error! Server verification failed (Knuts - jolt.co.uk) 5. RE: Error! Server verification failed (Marcel Beringer) 6. RE: Error! Server verification failed (Knuts - jolt.co.uk) 7. VAC breathing its last again? (fishy) 8. RE: Error! Server verification failed (Marcel Beringer) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:06:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcel Beringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Knuts - jolt.co.uk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:19:17 +0100 Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com That's an old version, you need to update it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel ___ To unsubscribe
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC breathing its last again?
I concur. Seems that some of the servers from random places are not vacced. One of our servers is and the other is not and both are at same network. Can we please have this working? It keeps some of the idiots away who have vac bans but not all. -ics fishy kirjoitti: VAC seems to be gasping for air once again The servers appear to be randomly losing connection to steam3 Is there any particular reason for this? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
What do you mean about the 64bit amxmodx? It's not stopped, I use the 1.76 release which is now 5 days old, and has it's own 64 bit compiled packages. Or do you mean something else? On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: Indeed I don't run 64 bit though I can but choose not to as you can see from previous posts, in a nutshell VAC2 doesn't work. I seem to remember the AMXX chap stopping support for 64 bit a while back too. Try running it without any plugins. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 16:20 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed You're not running 64 bit? Cause I have seen before that 32 bit had a higher version number... don't know why that is to be honest. But still doesn't fix my problems :) On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: Mine shows this: Protocol version 47 Exe version 1.1.2.5/Stdio (cstrike) Exe build: 20:06:55 Mar 7 2006 (3421) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:44 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Old version of what? mb@@zeus:/usr/games/hlds_l$ ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir . -verify_all HLDS installation up to date Seems okay? On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: That's an old version, you need to update it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] VAC breathing its last again?
VAC seems to be gasping for air once again The servers appear to be randomly losing connection to steam3 Is there any particular reason for this? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
Indeed I don't run 64 bit though I can but choose not to as you can see from previous posts, in a nutshell VAC2 doesn't work. I seem to remember the AMXX chap stopping support for 64 bit a while back too. Try running it without any plugins. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 16:20 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed You're not running 64 bit? Cause I have seen before that 32 bit had a higher version number... don't know why that is to be honest. But still doesn't fix my problems :) On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: > Mine shows this: > > Protocol version 47 > Exe version 1.1.2.5/Stdio (cstrike) > Exe build: 20:06:55 Mar 7 2006 (3421) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel > Beringer > Sent: 23 September 2006 15:44 > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed > > > Old version of what? > > mb@@zeus:/usr/games/hlds_l$ ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir . > -verify_all > HLDS installation up to date > > Seems okay? > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: > >> That's an old version, you need to update it. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel >> Beringer >> Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 >> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on >> it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad >> >> When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the >> following message: >> >> Error! Server verification failed >> >> hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike >> version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure >> tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 >> map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z >> players : 0 active (24 max) >> >> And so the server stays empty :( >> >> When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: >> >> hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike >> version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure >> tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 >> map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z >> players : 24 active (24 max) >> >> Who knows what might cause this? >> >> I run the following scripts on it: >> >> Currently loaded plugins: >> description stat pend file vers src load unlod >> [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY >> [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY >> [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY >> [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY >> [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY >> [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY >> 6 plugins, 6 running >> >> It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's >> not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come >> can't connect anymore and get the verification error. >> >> Please help or advice. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Gr, >> >> Marcel >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
You're not running 64 bit? Cause I have seen before that 32 bit had a higher version number... don't know why that is to be honest. But still doesn't fix my problems :) On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: Mine shows this: Protocol version 47 Exe version 1.1.2.5/Stdio (cstrike) Exe build: 20:06:55 Mar 7 2006 (3421) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:44 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Old version of what? mb@@zeus:/usr/games/hlds_l$ ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir . -verify_all HLDS installation up to date Seems okay? On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: That's an old version, you need to update it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
Mine shows this: Protocol version 47 Exe version 1.1.2.5/Stdio (cstrike) Exe build: 20:06:55 Mar 7 2006 (3421) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:44 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Old version of what? mb@@zeus:/usr/games/hlds_l$ ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir . -verify_all HLDS installation up to date Seems okay? On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: > That's an old version, you need to update it. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel > Beringer > Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed > > > Hi all, > > Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on > it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad > > When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the > following message: > > Error! Server verification failed > > hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike > version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure > tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 > map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 0 active (24 max) > > And so the server stays empty :( > > When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: > > hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike > version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure > tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 > map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 24 active (24 max) > > Who knows what might cause this? > > I run the following scripts on it: > > Currently loaded plugins: > description stat pend file vers src load unlod > [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY > [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY > [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY > [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY > [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY > [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY > 6 plugins, 6 running > > It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's > not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come > can't connect anymore and get the verification error. > > Please help or advice. > > Thanks in advance. > > Gr, > > Marcel > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
Old version of what? mb@@zeus:/usr/games/hlds_l$ ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir . -verify_all HLDS installation up to date Seems okay? On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Knuts - jolt.co.uk wrote: That's an old version, you need to update it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
That's an old version, you need to update it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Beringer Sent: 23 September 2006 15:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Error! Server verification failed
Hi all, Recently my server hdd crashed so I had to replace it and reinstall CS on it. It run perfectly for 2 years, but since my reinstall it runs bad When it's in secure mode people can't connect to it anymore, they get the following message: Error! Server verification failed hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 secure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_aztec at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 active (24 max) And so the server stays empty :( When it's in insecure mode, well ... see for yourself: hostname: [NL] Foute Baas Counter-Strike version : 47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 2827 insecure tcp/ip : 80.69.78.200:27015 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 24 active (24 max) Who knows what might cause this? I run the following scripts on it: Currently loaded plugins: description stat pend file vers src load unlod [ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm_amd64 v1.76 ini ANY ANY [ 2] Fun RUN - fun_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 3] Engine RUN - engine_amxx_amd6 v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 4] FakeMeta RUN - fakemeta_amxx_am v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 5] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx_amd v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY [ 6] CSX RUN - csx_amxx_amd64.s v1.76 pl1 ANY ANY 6 plugins, 6 running It's the same scripts I allways had running before the reinstall. And it's not a problem which affects some players, all players who used to come can't connect anymore and get the verification error. Please help or advice. Thanks in advance. Gr, Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Give it a go. Last I checked this was more of a technically orientated mailing-list, not myspace. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Devonshire Sent: Saturday, 23 September 2006 10:13 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Oh dear Valve.. Truely is the worse update I've seen. ever. An update every Monday to the price lists? Thats just going to be a pain in the arse. William Warren wrote: > can this be disabled? > > > William Warren wrote: >> Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. >> >> Patrick Haverkamp wrote: >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server >>> side... >>> >>> On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: > Haha, Valve tries too hard. > > Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as > real > life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before > going too > far, and I think they crossed it with this. > If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she > should > no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just > respawn =] > - Original Message - > From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM > Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing > > >> Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing >> VALVe >> has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know >> what I >> am >> talking about, read up at >> http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It >> appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to >> prevent >> the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online >> competitive >> and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. >> >> J. Laws >> Hi-Definition Gaming LLC >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> -- >> My "Foundation" verse: >> Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and >> every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt >> condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their >> righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. >> >> -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" >> CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) >> >> Linux user #322099 >> Machines: >> 206822 >> 256638 >> 276825 >> http://counter.li.org/ >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > -- > My "Foundation" verse: > Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and > every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt > condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their > righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. > > -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" > CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) > > Linux user #322099 > Machines: > 206822 > 256638 > 276825 > http://counter.li.org/ > > ___ > To unsubscrib
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Oh dear Valve.. Truely is the worse update I've seen. ever. An update every Monday to the price lists? Thats just going to be a pain in the arse. William Warren wrote: can this be disabled? William Warren wrote: Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. Patrick Haverkamp wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server side... On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: Haha, Valve tries too hard. Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with this. If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
can this be disabled? William Warren wrote: Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. Patrick Haverkamp wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server side... On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: Haha, Valve tries too hard. Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with this. If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Not a god move. The thread on steampowered has exploded. Patrick Haverkamp wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server side... On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: Haha, Valve tries too hard. Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with this. If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading to do or not
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Actually there's a priority option within prime which seems to override nice, so try setting that (sorry if you've already done that, just covering the obvious), on a single cpu setup it behaves correctly, will see if I can sneak some time when a ht system is quiet a bit later to test on that. On 9/23/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the stats, handy to know someone else got about that. I don't > have any none used HT setups atm to try it on without people screaming :). I > think there's a couple of things though, gameserver code may be better or > worse in how much extra you will get than prime, not really an easy way to > tell I think (I know you haven't said anything on that, just in case others > reading). > > I did try it on a single cpu none ht though out of interest just to see > the behaviour (as only one we have spare to load cpu atm), and I couldn't > get it to switch out of 50/50 either, and it didn't seem to take notice > of nice (in top it even said same nice which is weird). So basically > wondering if that problem is a problem with prime rather than HT? > > Is it possible for you to try it on a single cpu/virtual cpu setup and see > if its the same? Just then isolates the behaviour out of a ht system. > > > On 9/23/06, Rüdiger Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Friday 22 September 2006 09:36, Ian mu wrote: > > > First thing I tend to do is run something like prime95 or something > > > else that will max a virtual cpu and see what it shows. > > > [...] > > > Typically you won't get much past > > > an extra 10/15%, probably be even less with gameservers. > > > > I benchmarked mprime on HT and got something like > > running 1 mprime instance used 150ms per iteration (like without HT), > > running 2 mprimes instances at the same used each 270ms per iteration. > > > > so, > > calculating 2 iterations using one mprime instance (anyway weather HT on > > > > or off) takes 300ms > > calculating 2 iterations using two mprime instances on HT takes 270ms > > about 10% more throughput. > > > > > Main thing is not to think of each virtual processor as a full cpu, > > > even though either one can run at 100% in a sense, but not both at > > > the same time, other things are happening. It's worth doing a bit of > > > reading on hyperthreading on the net which can explain the details a > > > lot better. > > > > Well because It was interesting for me I did above benchmarks again > > using different nice levels for both mprime and BTW I discoverd another > > Problem which lets me think more bad about HT now: > > > > If you run 2 processes at the same time with different nice levels then > > the behavior is not as you would expected on a single_CPU or a > > real_multi_core! > > > > Here I posted that more exactly: > > http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=87769#post87769 > > > > Dunno weather its a problem of my system (maybe someone could repeat > > such benchmark). > > For me this means that processes which are usually niced started by cron > > etc. got more bad behavior on HT as without HT and I dont see how you > > could get around this. > > > > So I think if you still want to use the little speed advantage of HT on > > a gameserver then you should watch more carefully your processlist and > > cron config even you didnt cared much about niced_19 processes so far. > > > > cu, > > Rudi > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading to do or not
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks for the stats, handy to know someone else got about that. I don't have any none used HT setups atm to try it on without people screaming :). I think there's a couple of things though, gameserver code may be better or worse in how much extra you will get than prime, not really an easy way to tell I think (I know you haven't said anything on that, just in case others reading). I did try it on a single cpu none ht though out of interest just to see the behaviour (as only one we have spare to load cpu atm), and I couldn't get it to switch out of 50/50 either, and it didn't seem to take notice of nice (in top it even said same nice which is weird). So basically wondering if that problem is a problem with prime rather than HT? Is it possible for you to try it on a single cpu/virtual cpu setup and see if its the same? Just then isolates the behaviour out of a ht system. On 9/23/06, Rüdiger Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 22 September 2006 09:36, Ian mu wrote: > > First thing I tend to do is run something like prime95 or something > > else that will max a virtual cpu and see what it shows. > > [...] > > Typically you won't get much past > > an extra 10/15%, probably be even less with gameservers. > > I benchmarked mprime on HT and got something like > running 1 mprime instance used 150ms per iteration (like without HT), > running 2 mprimes instances at the same used each 270ms per iteration. > > so, > calculating 2 iterations using one mprime instance (anyway weather HT on > or off) takes 300ms > calculating 2 iterations using two mprime instances on HT takes 270ms > about 10% more throughput. > > > Main thing is not to think of each virtual processor as a full cpu, > > even though either one can run at 100% in a sense, but not both at > > the same time, other things are happening. It's worth doing a bit of > > reading on hyperthreading on the net which can explain the details a > > lot better. > > Well because It was interesting for me I did above benchmarks again > using different nice levels for both mprime and BTW I discoverd another > Problem which lets me think more bad about HT now: > > If you run 2 processes at the same time with different nice levels then > the behavior is not as you would expected on a single_CPU or a > real_multi_core! > > Here I posted that more exactly: > http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=87769#post87769 > > Dunno weather its a problem of my system (maybe someone could repeat > such benchmark). > For me this means that processes which are usually niced started by cron > etc. got more bad behavior on HT as without HT and I dont see how you > could get around this. > > So I think if you still want to use the little speed advantage of HT on > a gameserver then you should watch more carefully your processlist and > cron config even you didnt cared much about niced_19 processes so far. > > cu, > Rudi > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading to do or not
On Friday 22 September 2006 09:36, Ian mu wrote: > First thing I tend to do is run something like prime95 or something > else that will max a virtual cpu and see what it shows. > [...] > Typically you won't get much past > an extra 10/15%, probably be even less with gameservers. I benchmarked mprime on HT and got something like running 1 mprime instance used 150ms per iteration (like without HT), running 2 mprimes instances at the same used each 270ms per iteration. so, calculating 2 iterations using one mprime instance (anyway weather HT on or off) takes 300ms calculating 2 iterations using two mprime instances on HT takes 270ms about 10% more throughput. > Main thing is not to think of each virtual processor as a full cpu, > even though either one can run at 100% in a sense, but not both at > the same time, other things are happening. It's worth doing a bit of > reading on hyperthreading on the net which can explain the details a > lot better. Well because It was interesting for me I did above benchmarks again using different nice levels for both mprime and BTW I discoverd another Problem which lets me think more bad about HT now: If you run 2 processes at the same time with different nice levels then the behavior is not as you would expected on a single_CPU or a real_multi_core! Here I posted that more exactly: http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=87769#post87769 Dunno weather its a problem of my system (maybe someone could repeat such benchmark). For me this means that processes which are usually niced started by cron etc. got more bad behavior on HT as without HT and I dont see how you could get around this. So I think if you still want to use the little speed advantage of HT on a gameserver then you should watch more carefully your processlist and cron config even you didnt cared much about niced_19 processes so far. cu, Rudi ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
needs to include but it would be hard to see which server has dynamic pricing and which dont have. i think the css players should unite and play ONE game. Leo Patrick Haverkamp schrieb: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server side... On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: Haha, Valve tries too hard. Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with this. If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Perhaps this should be an option to set the new feature on the server side... On 9/23/06, milchworld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > has nothing to do with real life. > if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last > a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. > > if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does > everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. > why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. > > MY Opinion: > 1. the price will change in waves: > awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys > awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... > > 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. > kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s > > Leo > > > Dan schrieb: > > Haha, Valve tries too hard. > > > > Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as > > real > > life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before > > going too > > far, and I think they crossed it with this. > > If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she > > should > > no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't > just > > respawn =] > > - Original Message - > > From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM > > Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing > > > > > >> Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing > >> VALVe > >> has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what > I > >> am > >> talking about, read up at > >> http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It > >> appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to > >> prevent > >> the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online > >> competitive > >> and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. > >> > >> J. Laws > >> Hi-Definition Gaming LLC > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
has nothing to do with real life. if valve changes the prices - everyone will cry and: it would only last a few month/years and valve will have to change the prices again. if WE - the community can change the price - noone can cry. why does everyone use ak,m4 ? they are good and should cost MORE. why does noone use the other weapons? they are to expensive. MY Opinion: 1. the price will change in waves: awp is cheap -> everyone buys awp -> awp becomes expensive -> noone buys awp -> awp becomes cheap -> ... 2. we can delete all buyscripts and not use autobuy anymore. kevlar&helmet, ak, m4 will INCREASE in price till 10.000s Leo Dan schrieb: Haha, Valve tries too hard. Its a Game, not real life, yes i know they want to base CS as much as real life gun combat as bpossible, there is a thin line to cross before going too far, and I think they crossed it with this. If you wanna make it real life, then once a player dies in cs, he/she should no longer be able to play cs EVER because well, in realife you don't just respawn =] - Original Message - From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
