RE: [hlds_linux] Howto get stable 500 FPS 64bit
Follow the directions in the url. You'll need to apply a realtime tick patch and edit the jiffies.h file (doubling shift_hz 10). When you reboot you'll find the fps is much higher. -Original Message- From: Tobias Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:57 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Howto get stable 500 FPS 64bit Thanks for your answer but I`ve got a 32 bit kernel. Hertz was on 1000 now on 1500 and I´ve only got 485 when nobody is playing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Howto get stable 500 FPS 64bit
You can most certainly get stable Source FPS on a 64bit kernel at or over 500fps (it's rather pointless, however). Follow that: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=b049b58954779c972aa3d 026a628be86&threadid=486424&highlight=recompile Minimally you should pull a stable 666fps on 64bit. To hit the 1000fps plateau you will need a 32bit kernel (yet again...pointless). -Original Message- From: William Warren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:53 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Howto get stable 500 FPS 64bit you don't want to hear this..but use a 32 bit os. emulation slows you down and when you put a load on it you only add to the overhead the the performance decrease. That's just how it is. Tobias Jordan wrote: > Hi everybody I`ve got a 64 bit server and emulate all to 32 bit. > > Now my problem. When nobody is on the server I`ve got stable 500 FPS > and when people are playing on this server the FPS decrease to 333 FPS. > > In cs 1.6 the serverfps are stable on 1000 FPS. > > So now my question: Did anyone know how I can make the Serverfps in > css stable? > > Please do not write use 32 bit OS and so on. > > My OS on server is: > Linux/Debian 64bit > > processor: > Intel Core2Duo > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > . > -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Howto set srcds to one processor
Yes -Original Message- From: Tobias Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:08 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Howto set srcds to one processor This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] HI everybody I´ve got a Core2Duo and I think the server will run better when I set srcds to an cpu so srcds is running on cpu 1 and hlds on 2. Is it possible? -- [ Tobias Jordam.vcf of type text/x-vcard deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] sv_downloadurl HL1 referer question
The hl1:// referrer has been working fine for me. -Original Message- From: John Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:20 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] sv_downloadurl HL1 referer question -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Does the hl1 linux engine support sending a referer header to verify the game server for fast download (sv_downloadurl)? The syntax given by Alfred from the hlds (win32) mailing list was hl1://. I've seen the hl2:// referer come from a source engine I've tracked on another member's game server but my hl1 server does not send anything like this. Some background info and other information on what I'm running/using: I've updated using the ./steam command as of Feb. 13th 2pm eastern for the game "cstrike". However I have a third party mod, Zombie Panic!, which the server runs. Rough Directory Tree: --rootserverinstall cstrike/ zp/ hlds_run ...etc The server runs perfectly and I do not have AMXX or Metamod installed yet. I have my sv_downloadurl set to a php file that grabs all of the client headers (SERVER, ENV, REQUEST, SESSION...etc) and outputs to a file for me to view. No header has anything that relates to the original server. The only thing close is HTTP_USER_AGENT: Half-Life I use the php file for testing to make sure the referer is sent. I test by renaming a map on my client machine that the server is playing so I will be redirected to download it. The php file is called and it stores the header info. >From the hlds mailing list I saw that hl1:// was supposed to be there. I'm wondering if I'm missing a setting or config file to enable that functionality or if it does indeed exist for the hl1 linux server. More info can be provided if needed. Thanks. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Speakeasy security module wont load no matter what
What exactly is the reason for that other than that 64bit no longer functions? Why has VALVe not developed a 64bit variant of VAC2? Why was 64bit technology so touted by VALVe and then dumped? -Original Message- From: Alfred Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:58 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Speakeasy security module wont load no matter what Okay, but you can't run a server with the 64-bit binaries, that is why you are getting errors. - Alfred linux penguin wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Haha.I dont > want to use the 32 bit binaries. Can you answer my question please? > Whats wrong with the speakeasy module. Why wont it load? > Thanks > > On 2/13/07, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That is the correct answer, use the 32-bit binaries. >> >> - Alfred >> >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>> Why do you even bother to do that. The answer is everytime the same: >>> >>> "There is no 64bit support now. The 32bit binaries should be used." >>> >>> Or there's also a good chance that they don't even answer you. :) >>> >>> linux penguin kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just wrote to valve askin about this, will see what they say... On 2/13/07, Parker Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same for me. Six servers, running with a patched hlds_run and the > outdated hlds_amd64 binary, and all of them do not load the > security module anymore for about two days (?) now. > > As it was a 50:50 chance in the past to get the secmod loaded on > serverstart, it's maybe only a temporary problem. > > But as Valve isn't able to compile the 64bit binaries for over a > year now (some people say they could but wont), it _could_ be the > end for our servers :(. > > Maybe someone from Valve can give us some information about that. > > > yours > pl > > --- linux penguin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I didnt say >> anything about VAC2, at least i didnt mean to because when i had >> a 32 bit server and when i used to start it it wouldnt say >> anything about Speakeasy module being loaded, it would only say >> VAC Secured or Not that is why i thaught the Speakeasy module >> only gets loaded on VAC1. What i am saying is that VAC1 wont >> load. It used to load. >> Last night i tried starting/stopping the server over 10 times now >> and i cant get secured with VAC1(the speakeasy module wount >> download). Port 27015 UDP/TCP is forwarded just like last time >> when VAC1 did load.(I have no firewall on the machine itsself, at >> least not yet) I just tried starting the esrver again (2 times) >> but the speakeasy module still wont load. >> I play on this one E-Frag server which also has VAC1 and they >> also said that it wont load, so surely somethings not right. My >> question is, does it still exist? What could be wrong? >> Thanks >> >> On 2/13/07, Regime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Linux penguin, >>> Several people have been trying to tell you this already, but I >>> >> don't >> >>> think you have read their posts very well.. One more time, as >>> >> simple as >> >>> possible: >>> You are now running the 64 bit binary that supports only VAC 1. >>> >> This >> >>> means your server will complain that it cannot load the >>> speakeasy >>> >> module >> >>> (VAC 2) and will not be 'secure'. >>> >>> Option 1: run the 32 bit binary (including the 32 bit versions >>> of >>> >> the >> >>> plugins you use) which is up to date and supports VAC 2. Use a >>> 64 >>> >> bit OS >> >>> and 32 bit emulation. Worst performance out of all options. >>> >>> Option 2: run the 32 bit binary (including the 32 bit versions >>> of >>> >> the >> >>> plugins you use) which is up to date and supports VAC 2. Use a >>> 32 >>> >> bit >> >>> OS. Performance will be slightly better then with option 1. >>> >>> Option 3: run the 64 bit binary (with the 64 bit versions of the >>> >> plugins >> >>> you use) and do not get VAC 2 support, but slightly better >>> >> performance >> >>> then with both options 1 and 2. >>> >>> Even with VAC 2 you will get some cheaters playing on your >>> >> server, but >> >>> probably less then with VAC 1 only. It is for you to decide what >>> >> is more >> >>> important to you and base your decision on which binary you want >>> >> to run, >> >>> on that. By the sound of it, maybe renting a server from a GSP >>> >> would be >> >>> the best optio
RE: [hlds_linux] czero needs cstrike base content?
It's correct. -Original Message- From: -W0kk3L- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:07 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] czero needs cstrike base content? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is this correct? When i install a czero server it also downloads the cstrike content. Is this correct, or a bug in the steam app? -W0kk3L- -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Map downloading question
Bah, it seems to have wrapped: SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl2://192\.168\.1\.0 allow_download SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl1://192\.168\.1\.0 allow_download Order Deny,Allow Allow from env=allow_download Deny from all -Original Message- From: J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:58 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Map downloading question Add an .htaccess file to the main folder of your autodownloading. Inside the .htaccess file add this (customize to your IP ranges and/or server IP): SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl2://192\.168\.1\.0 allow_download SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl1://192\.168\.1\.0 allow_download Order Deny,Allow Allow from env=allow_download Deny from all The hl2 is for any HL2 engine game (obviously) and HL1 is for any HL1 engine game. If you have lots of servers on IP ranges, just input the ranges like above with a .0 on the end to cover the whole range. If you have only one game server ip, just put in the whole ip. This will limit your autodownload files to be read, searched and downloaded via the game servers running on those ip ranges. Nobody will be able to just go to http://www.yoursite.com/autodownload and browse all of your files for leaching, nor will other game servers be allowed to mooch. You would still be able to provide anyone a direct URL to that file from HTTP, they just cannot search or view anything. J. Laws -Original Message- From: Stephen Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Map downloading question I redirect downloads of custom maps on my servers to a web server I control. Lately I've been noticing a few other HL2 servers leeching my bandwidth to download the maps from me. I can set up a .htaccess file to limit this but I've found something odd. I can see when players from one of my servers are downloading the maps. The entry in the webserver log has hl2://myipaddress:port as the referer. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [08/Feb/2007:15:15:18 +] "GET /files/source/maps/gg_boxical.bsp HTTP/1.1" 200 4786488 "hl2://152.105.66.176:27030" "Half-Life 2" I'm guessing the ones with hl2://someone elsesipaddress:port as the referer are redirects from other servers leeching the bandwidth. This would be pretty easy to knock on the head. The problem is I have a lot of entries that are obviously CSS clients but have no referer. Like this xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [08/Feb/2007:14:17:11 +] "GET /files/source/maps/gg_bunkers_1.bsp HTTP/1.1" 200 3236916 "-" "Half-Life 2" Does anyone know what might be causing this or an easy way to make sure only players from my own servers can access the maps? I could block accesses from the useragent Half-Life 2 and no referer but I don't know if this is legitimate access or not. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Map downloading question
Add an .htaccess file to the main folder of your autodownloading. Inside the .htaccess file add this (customize to your IP ranges and/or server IP): SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl2://192\.168\.1\.0 allow_download SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl1://192\.168\.1\.0 allow_download Order Deny,Allow Allow from env=allow_download Deny from all The hl2 is for any HL2 engine game (obviously) and HL1 is for any HL1 engine game. If you have lots of servers on IP ranges, just input the ranges like above with a .0 on the end to cover the whole range. If you have only one game server ip, just put in the whole ip. This will limit your autodownload files to be read, searched and downloaded via the game servers running on those ip ranges. Nobody will be able to just go to http://www.yoursite.com/autodownload and browse all of your files for leaching, nor will other game servers be allowed to mooch. You would still be able to provide anyone a direct URL to that file from HTTP, they just cannot search or view anything. J. Laws -Original Message- From: Stephen Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Map downloading question I redirect downloads of custom maps on my servers to a web server I control. Lately I've been noticing a few other HL2 servers leeching my bandwidth to download the maps from me. I can set up a .htaccess file to limit this but I've found something odd. I can see when players from one of my servers are downloading the maps. The entry in the webserver log has hl2://myipaddress:port as the referer. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [08/Feb/2007:15:15:18 +] "GET /files/source/maps/gg_boxical.bsp HTTP/1.1" 200 4786488 "hl2://152.105.66.176:27030" "Half-Life 2" I'm guessing the ones with hl2://someone elsesipaddress:port as the referer are redirects from other servers leeching the bandwidth. This would be pretty easy to knock on the head. The problem is I have a lot of entries that are obviously CSS clients but have no referer. Like this xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [08/Feb/2007:14:17:11 +] "GET /files/source/maps/gg_bunkers_1.bsp HTTP/1.1" 200 3236916 "-" "Half-Life 2" Does anyone know what might be causing this or an easy way to make sure only players from my own servers can access the maps? I could block accesses from the useragent Half-Life 2 and no referer but I don't know if this is legitimate access or not. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Installing CS server. Runing ./steam fails
lol -Original Message- From: Valtteri Kiviniemi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:39 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Installing CS server. Runing ./steam fails ... Plz. IMO about 70% users of this mailing list are fucking retard's or don't know anything about Linux (anymore than how to run cs-server and chmod). Dont please answer if you don't have the experience... It might be true that the permissions are fucked up topo, but the message "./steam: No such file or directory." comes because the operating system is 64bit and there is missing 32bit package. That is why you NEED TO INSTALL ia32-libs package in debian. If the reason were only wrong permissions, it would say "permission denied" not "No such file or directory.". That message is pretty weird error message about missing 32bit package, but thats the way it is. I know this because I have 64bit installations too, and you cant run ./steam if you don't have the 32bit package installed. -- Valtteri Michael Noack kirjoitti: > Your problem is obvious. You migrated your installation to another > server. There the user of steam does not exist, that's why the uid is > displayed instead of the username, do a chown as root to the right > users name und steam will run ... > > > linux penguin wrote: >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] yea i always use the >> TAB to complete file names and stuff. The file is there DEFINETLY! >> When i tried to see my permissions i got: >> debian-x86:/home/cookie/cs_srv01# ls -al total 9276 >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-02-05 16:48 . >> drwxr-xr-x 5 cookie cookie4096 2007-02-05 16:48 .. >> -rwx-- 1 1016 users 7506846 2004-09-22 12:54 steam >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1962970 2004-09-22 12:55 steam.tar.gz >> debian-x86:/home/cookie/cs_srv01# >> >> I dont quite get it tho, what are the last 2 lines for? >> I was loged in as 'cookie' (thats my standard user) but i 'su' to >> root. That couldnt be the problem could it? >> But anyways the permissions seem to look on, dont they? >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Tic Rate
If you have rented or are supposed to be running a 100 tickrate server ensure that your cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterate are at 100 or 101. Then you may use the netgraph 3 hud to determine the actual tickrate of the server. On the right of the netgraph 3 will be In/Out. The numbers to the left are kB (or KB, I forget)..ignore those...you want the numbers on the far right with a /s on the end. For IN you should be seeing 100/s or higher. For OUT you will be seeing the same # as the on-screen fps your video card is able to churn out. If your in-game fps drops to 50, your OUT will show 50/s or lower. If you are at 100fps or higher, it will show 100/S out. If they seem locked at anything below that, you do not have 100 tickrate or you are not properly configured. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:30 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Tic Rate How can someone verify if a Source game is running at 100 tic? I know in the HL1 you could use NetGraph 3 and you could use the in-out to see tic rate. I have been told by several providers that this is not accurate in Source and would like to know of a way to verify the tic rate in Source. > > > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HOWTO use a Domain instead of an IP for a CS Server adress
You just need to add an A record to the domain which translates cs1 to 104.44.43.251. -Original Message- From: linux penguin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:48 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] HOWTO use a Domain instead of an IP for a CS Server adress -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hi, Can someone telll me how ppl do this?; Have a domain like ( cs1.dude.net:27015) instead of (102.44.43.251:27015) Is it just a case of using a domain you've got? If so, where do you specify this? Thanks! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron
The players can tell when they connect. Old VAC loads a module from Speakeasy, new VAC does not load a module and shows a VAC emblem with a warning that cheating will result in a permanent ban (or something along those lines). The Old VAC authentication servers appears to be rate limited to discourage use. It really would be nice to have 64bit Vac2, but it really does not seem that VALVe is interested any longer -Original Message- From: Nullbit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:05 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: SV: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Hi, could somebody please enlighten me? Since the players can't see if a server is running VAC or VAC2; what is then the great advance of using VAC2 from a server hosting point-of-view (e.g. 32bit binaries versus 64bit)? >From my point-of-view is it only a matter of having a smooth game process in terms of CPU usage and that kind of things. I really don't care if it's VAC or VAC2! nullbit -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Knuts - jolt.co.uk Sendt: 22. januar 2007 19:48 Til: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: RE: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Don't get me started on lack of 64 bit cpu support!! The main downside is no VAC2, you get VAC1 when you use amd64 binaries. ***SHAKES FIST*** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: 22 January 2007 18:03 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Btw, whats the downside when you use the 64bit binary? Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen It konsulent NovaNett IT A/S Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 Faks: 22178218 Web: www.novanett.no -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valtteri Kiviniemi Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:03 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Hi My experience is that, if you run 64bit OS and 32bit binary, the operating system will emulate the program, and it decreases performance and consumes more CPU. I have AMD64 debian installations, and if I run hlds_amd binary (the 32bit one) the server FPS is only ~200-300 and it consumes ~3-5% CPU at IDLE, and with 10 players about 20%... With the outdated hlds_amd64 binary the FPS is constantly 500 and the server consumes about ~5-8% CPU with 10 players. I suggest that if you want to run the updated 32bit binary, you're better have pure 32bit OS. The outdated hlds_amd64 binary is IMO better and the hitreg is perfect. I don't care how outdated it is, becauce the fact is that it performs much better than the 32bit installation, and consumes less CPU. I'll update to the 32bit installation only when the 64bit binary wont work anymore. REMEMBER: don't fix it if it ain't broken.. And btw, the hlds_run script doesn't autodetect 64bit processors anymore, because valve has changed the script to run only with hlds_amd binary (even if you have 64bit processor). And why is this? Because the 64bit binary is very old, and they don't update it anymore. But it still works fine. --- Valtteri Andreas Kang Schøyen kirjoitti: > The CPU support 64bits, and I have installed 64bit debian. > > When I run the amd64 bit binary for hlds the cpu load decreases with 70%.. > > Med vennlig hilsen: > Andreas Kang Schøyen > It konsulent > NovaNett IT A/S > Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo > E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 > Faks: 22178218 > Web: www.novanett.no > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 4:04 PM > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On that note > > If I recall correctly from reading this list, is it correct to say > that the > Linux 32 bit binary runs better if the Linux OS is running 64bit mode > natives, assuming the CPU supports 64bit? > > On 1/23/07, Andreas Kang Schøyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have Debian and the new socket 939 opteron installed, i see that by >> default hlds_run starts hlds_amd and not hlds_amd64. why? >> >> When I run hlds_amd64 with pingboost 2 and 10 players on the server, >> the CPU load is 0-3% and peaks at 8% (mapchange etc).. >> >> WOW!! :) >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe,
RE: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron
Perhaps that is one reason it runs so much better...it has never been tainted by VAC2 and multi-threading. -Original Message- From: Knuts - jolt.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:48 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Don't get me started on lack of 64 bit cpu support!! The main downside is no VAC2, you get VAC1 when you use amd64 binaries. ***SHAKES FIST*** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: 22 January 2007 18:03 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Btw, whats the downside when you use the 64bit binary? Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen It konsulent NovaNett IT A/S Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 Faks: 22178218 Web: www.novanett.no -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valtteri Kiviniemi Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:03 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron Hi My experience is that, if you run 64bit OS and 32bit binary, the operating system will emulate the program, and it decreases performance and consumes more CPU. I have AMD64 debian installations, and if I run hlds_amd binary (the 32bit one) the server FPS is only ~200-300 and it consumes ~3-5% CPU at IDLE, and with 10 players about 20%... With the outdated hlds_amd64 binary the FPS is constantly 500 and the server consumes about ~5-8% CPU with 10 players. I suggest that if you want to run the updated 32bit binary, you're better have pure 32bit OS. The outdated hlds_amd64 binary is IMO better and the hitreg is perfect. I don't care how outdated it is, becauce the fact is that it performs much better than the 32bit installation, and consumes less CPU. I'll update to the 32bit installation only when the 64bit binary wont work anymore. REMEMBER: don't fix it if it ain't broken.. And btw, the hlds_run script doesn't autodetect 64bit processors anymore, because valve has changed the script to run only with hlds_amd binary (even if you have 64bit processor). And why is this? Because the 64bit binary is very old, and they don't update it anymore. But it still works fine. --- Valtteri Andreas Kang Schøyen kirjoitti: > The CPU support 64bits, and I have installed 64bit debian. > > When I run the amd64 bit binary for hlds the cpu load decreases with 70%.. > > Med vennlig hilsen: > Andreas Kang Schøyen > It konsulent > NovaNett IT A/S > Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo > E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 > Faks: 22178218 > Web: www.novanett.no > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 4:04 PM > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] socket 939 Opteron > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On that note > > If I recall correctly from reading this list, is it correct to say > that the > Linux 32 bit binary runs better if the Linux OS is running 64bit mode > natives, assuming the CPU supports 64bit? > > On 1/23/07, Andreas Kang Schøyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have Debian and the new socket 939 opteron installed, i see that by >> default hlds_run starts hlds_amd and not hlds_amd64. why? >> >> When I run hlds_amd64 with pingboost 2 and 10 players on the server, >> the CPU load is 0-3% and peaks at 8% (mapchange etc).. >> >> WOW!! :) >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Servers wont start
Steam was down. Our *nix Source servers just came back online when the mailing list came back online. Our HL1 stuff never disappeared but other *nix hosts had their HL1's fail to start. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:31 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Servers wont start I can not get my servers to run for nothing. I do not see any problems with the setup. I have updated, and still have the same problem. The server starts for 2 secs then stops. The console does not have any errors attributing to the problem. Is anyone else having problems? > > > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC secured
Really? Tell me, please, what VAC stands for. -Original Message- From: Krillins World [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:00 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC secured -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] VAC is not nor ever has been an "Anti-Cheat" program. From what we gathered in the many years of running secure HL1 & HL2 servers is, VAC is just a detection and reporting tool. If VAC detects a certian signature from a hack running while their client is running it reports it to the secure center where it is investigated then the steamid of the user is placed on a global ban list which prevents these hacker and cheaters from playing in SECURE servers for one full year. These players are also known as "VAC Banned Players." As for your issue there was a serious problem with a few of the earlier version of the HLDS that they call Stdio Builds. It appears as if the server you are having issue with is too far out of date to handle the changes in the VAC module. Add the -autoupdate to the launch of the server and let them update accordingly. You may have to reupdate your steam as many changed to the ./steam module have evolved when it comes to the updating process which appears is what happened to your old troubled server of v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213. We used to have very many VAC issues with the version of 3421 and had to revert back to an older version of 3327. Best Reguarrds, Krillin On 11/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been experiencing this problem with one of my servers for quite > some time now. I have 3 CS 1.6 servers running on a linux dedicated > server box. They all run the same versions of amxx and meta mod and > are configured basically the same . VAC drops constantly from one of > the servers, the other 2 run secured all the time without any problems. > > The only difference I have noticed in the servers thus far is that the > 2 servers that do not have any VAC issues run version v1.1.2.5/Stdio > 3651 secure while the server which has constant issues of VAC dropping > runs version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213 secure. I have been searching high > and low for answers as to what the Stdio number indicates and if/how > this may be relative to my VAC issue to no avail. If anyone can please > enlighten me as to what the Stdio number is indicative of or has any > suggestions on the issues of why VAC drops constantly from only 1 > server it would be most welcome and very appreciated. :) > > > > Kym > > > Hi, > > > > I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they > load > > up > > and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching > > itself off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off. > > > > Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if > > cheaters > can > > just disable the anti cheat... > > > > Has anyone else had this problem? > > > > -Scott > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Error downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net -> VAC gets disabled
Same problem here except we also get "Server Verification Error" on numerous clients when using the 64bit binaries. That error means the server cannot locate the Steam Authentication servers. It seems as if VALVe may be rate limiting the old auth servers to conserve bandwidth. -Original Message- From: Parker Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:37 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: AW: [hlds_linux] Error downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net -> VAC gets disabled You are using the amd64 binaries, right? So do I. My seven gameservers are restarted daily and the chances are 60:40 they are secure for this day. Maybe someone worked out a solution which is able to check the state of vac protection via commandline? Hence a cronjob would be able to restart the server as long as the vac is loaded successfully. greets - Ursprüngliche Mail Von: k-mystik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Gesendet: Sonntag, den 22. Oktober 2006, 17:37:52 Uhr Betreff: [hlds_linux] Error downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net -> VAC gets disabled Hello, It has been about a month some of my HLDS (cstrike) servers fail to download the security module, so the server gets insecure (VAC disabled). Here's an extract of the log file: -- Downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net ... Error downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net Server is not Secure. No auth servers parsed Disabling Valve Authentication. -- I have to restart the server 2 to 5 times to get the security module downloaded and my server secured again. I've just tried to do a fresh install of hlds+cstrike and I still have the same problem. Any ideas? Thank you for your help. Christophe Deliens -- k-mystik! -- get2play administrator web: www.get2play.com irc: #get2play ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Re: 64bit HLDS and 64bit Srcds
I'm not sure how long you've been on this mailing list Adam, however this problem has existed since August 9th, 2005. They've been "working on" a 64bit version of VAC2 for well over a year now. There has never been a news item from VALVe stating that they ever intend to provide 64bit VAC2. I stopped holding my breath a long time ago, I passed out and moved on. J. Laws -Original Message- From: Adam-CEO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:38 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: 64bit HLDS and 64bit Srcds >>Alfred if you read this, I asked you questions towards the bottom>> Thats quite funny, benefits are quite better for the time to develop a 64bit Srcds and fix the issues with CPU Usage. Poor archectecture with the poorly written netcode = bad. Increasing the number of "ticks" for each client drastically floors the cpu usage leading me to believe that the netcode has major bugs in it. Also, the instructions 32 bits of data versus 64 bits of data is a huge thing especially with the system buses of our servers can handle alot more throughput that its generating. Obviously people don't have more than 4GB of memory running in their server, to want and need this,however 4GB of memory will soon be the 1GB of 2GB of memory today. Especially with the releasing of Windows Vista. But that is off topic. I asked this question for a valve rep to respond, not immature people who think its already been answered by people on this email list. Of course I know this, however I want a little more out of Alfred. In terms of Alfred, When? Do I keep waiting or should I give up? Beta? Do you have a beta version we can test? These questions need to be addressed by the big guys and not from people who are not working for Valve. Thanks, Adam - CEO Next-Generation Game Servers NextGenServers.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Disabling Valve Authentication.
You can only use VAC1 with the 64bit binary (amd64). Any other binary results in 32bit operation and VAC2. It sure seems as if VALVe has been rate limiting the VAC1 auth servers as we have this issue as well. It's a real shame that 64bit dedicated binaries were heralded by VALVe so much upon release and have been castigated to the shadows now. There IS a difference in the performance between 32bit and 64bit, I see it every day and will never be dissuaded as to the non-necessity of 64bit architectures. -Original Message- From: Father dougal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:42 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Disabling Valve Authentication. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] while on topic of vac2 how do u disable it and use vac1 ? On 05/10/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because there is no real 4bit support from valve, and VAC2 does not > support 64bit at all. > > - Original Message - > From: "Marcel Beringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:48 AM > Subject: [hlds_linux] Disabling Valve Authentication. > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Why is it I see this message during a 64bit Counter-Strike server > > start; > > > > Disabling Valve Authentication > > > > And _not_ when I start a 32bit server... > > > > I still have problems with the 64bit server when players connect to > > it, > I > > see this in the console; > > > > "Client sent drop" > > > > And then the players get disconnected from the server, with the > > message Error! Server verification failed. > > > > Could that message be connected somehow to the Disabling Valve > > Authentication message on the server? > > > > Really looks a like 64bit bug since 32 bit is running fine. > > > > Regards, > > > > Marcel > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] New Counter-Strike Source Weapon Pricing
Might I be the first to state that this is perhaps the DUMBEST thing VALVe has ever done (that I know of). For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read up at http://www.steampowered.com/stats/csmarket/. It appears to me that VALVe is continually trying to ruin CS:Source to prevent the game from being a viable alternative to CS: 1.6 in online competitive and LAN professional gaming venues. Poor play. J. Laws Hi-Definition Gaming LLC ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Vac2 down
Actually, VAC2 with 64bit binary has been down since VAC2 was released for us. Should we hold our breath for this or prepare for a 128bit VAC3 that will also be ignored? -Original Message- From: Alfred Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:43 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Vac2 down It is back up and running now. When this happens just leave your server alone, the problem will self correct once we fix the backend problem that caused it. - Alfred Neil wrote: > Hi > > Vac seems to be down ? > > Keep restarting server but get message > > "Could not establish connection to Steam servers." > > Applies to both our DOD:S server and CSS, was fine today and hasnt > dropped connection to Vac since last restart etc and i can see plenty > of servers running Vac ok > > but i needed to restart both servers as i'd updated mani admin to > latest version, so did a rcon quit etc > > have tried without IPtables etc, full server reboot , just seems to > have started this evening > > im in the UK , server is data center hosted in London > > Another guy has posted in Windows Server of Steam forums with same > issue > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
