Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released [OT]
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:54 pm, David Harrison wrote: > Sadly, that is often the only way people learn that their useless, > off-topic, unfunny, byte-wasting drivel is not wanted or appreciated by > the members of a community that actually want to use that community for > its intended purpose. > In my experience, Linux users can't resist the temptation to tell > everyone how wrong they are about everything. well, I'd say thats a broad brush you're using, but I agree the type of people who enjoy doing both are... not uncommon :) > I totally agree with Simon as do I > and I've voiced this several times in the past since its been ages since I have posted, I'll have one more go too :) the point that I would add is... that by continuing to allow a high level of irrelevant crap, this list runs the risk of losing the people who can help this list become the resource it was intended to be. I am subscribed to quite a variety of lists and due to time contraints (like many others) simply find it hard to be a regular contributor to lists that have a continual random noise. What I and others do is filter lists like this, in my case on this one, three or four people plus the Valve-ites get through the filter, while the rest go to a different mail folder to be looked at if a sudden amount of free time occurs, which never seems to happen. Contributing code/ideas/opinions I would humbly suggest is within my range of abilities, and certainly helping people with problems on running anything linux is something I enjoy. but when I am forced to limit the output of this list to only people who already know what they are doing then the possiblity of people like me contributing, at least directly on this list, gets close to zero. as for who the three or four are, they pick themselves with regard to getting the information you need, as do the sort of people who are a good reason to filter this list, one said they were leaving a long time ago?? ;) to sum up, if this list is a major part of your 'net life, then please don't use that fact as a reason to pour all your opinions into it, simply keeping things on topic and not responding to the sadder cries for attention would make this list a far better resource for all.. Cheers :) Rod May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PS: any flames/comment/abuse will need a follow-up from a small list of people for me to even see them, so please make 'em worth following-up :) --==* Random Fortune: A penny saved is a penny to squander. -- Ambrose Bierce ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released [OT]
> If the majority of your post isn't related to hlds on linux, > please - spare the rest of us, especially now when a huge new > HLDS-related product is about to hit the scene and it would > benefit everyone to keep the signal-to-noise ratio at reasonable > levels. Perhaps everyone's just tense, anticipating the new release, and they're trying to get some of the energy out ;) Or maybe they're just blowhards like myself who see nitpicking going on and just can't help themselves, heh :P -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
> Hell, ive even had people from this list try telling me whinge, > aint, practise and typo aint even real words! Explain "whinge". Is this some local slang of which I am completely unaware? "Aint" should really have an apostraphe between the N and the T. PS You mean "practice"? :P -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released [OT]
> Of course I am committing hipocrisy and simply perpetuating this thread > by replying here, which is why I usually just fume silently. Sigh... Sadly, that is often the only way people learn that their useless, off-topic, unfunny, byte-wasting drivel is not wanted or appreciated by the members of a community that actually want to use that community for its intended purpose. > PS: Hound is right. Those Windoze lam3rs on the HLDS list are much > better behaved than a lot of the people here, and the list generally has > a much higher SNR. Interesting. In my experience, Linux users can't resist the temptation to tell everyone how wrong they are about everything. I totally agree with Simon, and I've voiced this several times in the past and I do it every few months - if you're posting useless stuff, you're making harder for server admins to make the most of this list. Before you post something, try thinking to yourself a bit: "Man, I know this witty one-liner is the FUNNIEST thing anyone is EVER going to read on the Internet, ever. I really should post it to the guys on the hlds_linux list; I know they love a good larf. But then, that list isn't really for this sort of thing - maybe I should just not post it so the people on that list that are there for the actual hlds talk can get about their business. Maybe I could go to another community where my wit will be appreciated and share these gems with other fellow people of mensa-like cranial capacity!" Discussing grammar in relation to mailing lists, news posts, forums - its been done. Let it go. Noone is perfect. If you don't like their spelling, you don't have to tell them, let alone every other person on the list. It is really embarrassing that people even bother correcting each other's communication skills. If the majority of your post isn't related to hlds on linux, please - spare the rest of us, especially now when a huge new HLDS-related product is about to hit the scene and it would benefit everyone to keep the signal-to-noise ratio at reasonable levels. -- trog ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:11:58PM +1300, Jeremy Brooking wrote: >> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 16:06, James Clark wrote: >> >>> *A good example of this would be that idiotic grammar thread. >>> >>> Oops =) >> >> Or anything posted by Eric (the Deacon remix) > > Absolutely. > Or in fact, anything from you two as well :) Sometimes I just want to scream "SHUT UP!" when I read through this list. Such myriad pathetic, pedantic arguments about the tiniest irrelevancies. This is a mailing list not a chat room. When you post a message to a list, keep in mind that you're broadcasting your thoughts to hundreds of other people (to be recorded in the archives for perpetuity). Stop and think, is what I'm posting really of any value to anyone, or am I just going to annoy people and make a fool of myself? Of course I am committing hipocrisy and simply perpetuating this thread by replying here, which is why I usually just fume silently. Sigh... -Simon PS: Hound is right. Those Windoze lam3rs on the HLDS list are much better behaved than a lot of the people here, and the list generally has a much higher SNR. Interesting. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:11:58PM +1300, Jeremy Brooking wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 16:06, James Clark wrote: > > > *A good example of this would be that idiotic grammar thread. > > > > Oops =) > > Or anything posted by Eric (the Deacon remix) Absolutely. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 16:06, James Clark wrote: > *A good example of this would be that idiotic grammar thread. > > Oops =) Or anything posted by Eric (the Deacon remix) :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:03:02PM +1300, James Clark wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 03:07:01PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > FYI, it wasn't an official "Press Release". It was just a simple news post. > > These are not anywhere close to being written up like a "Press Release". > > What I find interesting, is that this Linux list responds and complains more > > about the silly and lame issues while the other list actually deals with the > > real issues. O_o > > I fully agree with HD on this. The posts on the hlds linux list are > mostly nonsense. Generally posts are replied to with some sort of > arrogant or non-helpful remark. > > A good example of this are that idiotic grammar thread. *A good example of this would be that idiotic grammar thread. Oops =) -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:39:08PM -0500, Flavored UNIX wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Anyway, like I said, I wasn't surprised at all and I guess that I'll > > need to post properly written news releases on this list if I don't > > want comments. > > If you'd like your organization to appear professional, then > well-written press releases are mandatory. This is news to you? > > jupe It wasn't a press release, it was a post. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 03:07:01PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > FYI, it wasn't an official "Press Release". It was just a simple news post. > These are not anywhere close to being written up like a "Press Release". > What I find interesting, is that this Linux list responds and complains more > about the silly and lame issues while the other list actually deals with the > real issues. O_o I fully agree with HD on this. The posts on the hlds linux list are mostly nonsense. Generally posts are replied to with some sort of arrogant or non-helpful remark. A good example of this are that idiotic grammar thread. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
Well, since online gaming is far from professional commercial writings with many 1337 slangs and far-casual writing, it's really no big deal. In fact, you can find it here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irregardless =P Irregardless (heh), if someone was going to say something, this is definately the correct list for it to be said. So, it's no surprise to me, really. -HD- - Original Message - From: "Brad Schulteis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "HLDS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released > HoundDawg, not to be an ass, but irregardless is not a word. Back in > high school my driver education teacher used to say that word all the > time and it drove me nuts! So I will refer to you HoundDawg from now on > as Ms. Medema. :-) > > On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > irregardless > > > > http://www.UnitedAdmins.com/News.aspx > > > > > > HoundDawg > -- > Brad Schulteis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Lots of campers on your server? Get some Camp Counselors: > admin_monster @ http://www.therealaod.com/ > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
Brad Schulteis wrote: HoundDawg, not to be an ass, but irregardless is not a word. Back in Depends who you listen to. I happen to agree with your opinion on this one, but Merriam-Webster says: "Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. " Although dictionary.com then says: "Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so." Pick a side :) Just being devil's advocate 3:-) James ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
HoundDawg, not to be an ass, but irregardless is not a word. Back in high school my driver education teacher used to say that word all the time and it drove me nuts! So I will refer to you HoundDawg from now on as Ms. Medema. :-) On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > irregardless > > http://www.UnitedAdmins.com/News.aspx > > > HoundDawg -- Brad Schulteis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lots of campers on your server? Get some Camp Counselors: admin_monster @ http://www.therealaod.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] [UA] Cheating-Death v2.1.x Released
UA's Anti-Cheat Team have released their first update to Cheating-Death (CD) since UA acquired the project in December. With this new release, CD now supports the Natural Selection MOD (still in beta, so run in optional mode) and a few additional cheat blocks have been added, which block the latest OGC and OpenGL cheats. The following is a list of cheats that have been confirmed to be blocked by this version of CD: - ak19e - csx multi hack - earthquake 1.1 - edge - esno 1.3 - Joolz 2.0 - lege - Net-Coders Hack v 2.0 - oc - ochack 1.0 - ochack 3.0 - ochack 3.1 - ochack 3.2 - rage - rageogl - ogc 9 - ogc 10 - ogc 10b - open gl hack (no name) - ZHC v1.75 open gl hack Unfortunately, CD still does not work with VAC supported MODs (e.g. Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat) irregardless if the servers don't have VAC enabled. We are currently working with Valve on a possible solution. http://www.UnitedAdmins.com/News.aspx HoundDawg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
