Re: Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
In a bold display of creativity, EqualHate wrote: I have a mac mini that I manage to load VirtualPC onto from MS, and run a linux virtual server on top of that layer so that I could run the SRCDS linux version You never did ask a question or point out an area in which you need help. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
uh, because it was a joke making fun of someone else asking for help that was boneheaded enough to run a linux server in a virtual machine running on win2003. On 6/27/05, Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You never did ask a question or point out an area in which you need help. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
you HAVE to run it like that? May I ask why? He's being held hostage by a slightly MS-brainwashed penguin that can't make up it's mind on OS? Run linux! no, windows! no, linux! no, windows! Seriously, this sounds like the worst of both worlds solution. Why in $DIETY's name would you run any server app in a virtual machine when the actual box is totally available to you? If you want to run linux, install linux on the damn box!! If you want to run windows, run the windows version of the app!! I'm thinking he's running it that way because he's reselling virtual servers, and a number of customers are insisting on having linux servers. Rather than get a second machine that is running linux he's trying to run both win hlds and linux hlds from the same windows box. Worst of both worlds, but at least the punter can say 'I've a linux-based gaming server'. Groan. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
You should run whatever you think is the best. :) Don't run what others tell you, because if it doesn't Pan out you can't blame anyone but yourself. At 02:02 AM 6/25/2005, Andrew Forsberg wrote: you HAVE to run it like that? May I ask why? He's being held hostage by a slightly MS-brainwashed penguin that can't make up it's mind on OS? Run linux! no, windows! no, linux! no, windows! Seriously, this sounds like the worst of both worlds solution. Why in $DIETY's name would you run any server app in a virtual machine when the actual box is totally available to you? If you want to run linux, install linux on the damn box!! If you want to run windows, run the windows version of the app!! I'm thinking he's running it that way because he's reselling virtual servers, and a number of customers are insisting on having linux servers. Rather than get a second machine that is running linux he's trying to run both win hlds and linux hlds from the same windows box. Worst of both worlds, but at least the punter can say 'I've a linux-based gaming server'. Groan. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
Sorry, are you nuts? He asked for advice, but he's running a gaming server for customers on via an emulation layer? 'You should run whatever you think is the best' is fine, but he was having trouble, and his clients are paying for something they're obviously not getting. Gah, I'm wasting my time. Have fun. Gary wrote: You should run whatever you think is the best. :) Don't run what others tell you, because if it doesn't Pan out you can't blame anyone but yourself. At 02:02 AM 6/25/2005, Andrew Forsberg wrote: you HAVE to run it like that? May I ask why? He's being held hostage by a slightly MS-brainwashed penguin that can't make up it's mind on OS? Run linux! no, windows! no, linux! no, windows! Seriously, this sounds like the worst of both worlds solution. Why in $DIETY's name would you run any server app in a virtual machine when the actual box is totally available to you? If you want to run linux, install linux on the damn box!! If you want to run windows, run the windows version of the app!! I'm thinking he's running it that way because he's reselling virtual servers, and a number of customers are insisting on having linux servers. Rather than get a second machine that is running linux he's trying to run both win hlds and linux hlds from the same windows box. Worst of both worlds, but at least the punter can say 'I've a linux-based gaming server'. Groan. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
I was also hoping the very smart people could help me, I have a mac mini that I manage to load VirtualPC onto from MS, and run a linux virtual server on top of that layer so that I could run the SRCDS linux version My server seems to be having lag issues but everything is installed correctly. I will post this to both lists in the hope that more people can fustigate me verbally (btw, I'm not cheap Mac Minis are pretty!) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
I am realy curious why you chose to run linux virtual servers under Win2k3 for hlds. he's a masochist? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
A Mac Mini's processing power and hardware isn't server class at all... that said no matter what you do you will not get good performance from srcds or anything else that can be processor-demanding from it. Sorry to burst you bubble. There is a reason its cheap. -sb On 6/25/05, EqualHate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also hoping the very smart people could help me, I have a mac mini that I manage to load VirtualPC onto from MS, and run a linux virtual server on top of that layer so that I could run the SRCDS linux version My server seems to be having lag issues but everything is installed correctly. I will post this to both lists in the hope that more people can fustigate me verbally (btw, I'm not cheap Mac Minis are pretty!) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server in such a way. From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is dropping packets. I would suggest using a tool like Etheral to monitor the traffic and see if the system is getting retransmits. Why not run the server directly on the Windows server. Or in a virtual windows environment? Your current configuration is just asking for hard to resolve problems to occur. Sid Michael Webber wrote: Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- /Sid Stuart Games Engineering / Yahoo! Games 701 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 (408) 349-7575 office -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
IMHO...running a latency-sensitive program in a virual machine is perfect stupidity. You ask for someone to fix a problem that you created. Run the game server from the main Win2k3 install and then seek support. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sid Stuart Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:19 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server in such a way. From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is dropping packets. I would suggest using a tool like Etheral to monitor the traffic and see if the system is getting retransmits. Why not run the server directly on the Windows server. Or in a virtual windows environment? Your current configuration is just asking for hard to resolve problems to occur. Sid Michael Webber wrote: Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- /Sid Stuart Games Engineering / Yahoo! Games 701 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 (408) 349-7575 office -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:57:39 -0400 IMHO...running a latency-sensitive program in a virual machine is perfect stupidity. You ask for someone to fix a problem that you created. Run the game server from the main Win2k3 install and then seek support. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sid Stuart Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:19 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server in such a way. From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is dropping packets. I would suggest using a tool like Etheral to monitor the traffic and see if the system is getting retransmits. Why not run the server directly on the Windows server. Or in a virtual windows environment? Your current configuration is just asking for hard to resolve problems to occur. Sid Michael Webber wrote: Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- /Sid Stuart Games Engineering / Yahoo! Games 701 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 (408) 349-7575 office -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
There is no solution you cheap bastard. Either you own/rent/lease the box or you don't. If you do then you run it on the main OS install. If you don't then you take your cheap-bastard complaints to the steampowered forums. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Webber Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:15 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:57:39 -0400 IMHO...running a latency-sensitive program in a virual machine is perfect stupidity. You ask for someone to fix a problem that you created. Run the game server from the main Win2k3 install and then seek support. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sid Stuart Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:19 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server in such a way. From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is dropping packets. I would suggest using a tool like Etheral to monitor the traffic and see if the system is getting retransmits. Why not run the server directly on the Windows server. Or in a virtual windows environment? Your current configuration is just asking for hard to resolve problems to occur. Sid Michael Webber wrote: Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- /Sid Stuart Games Engineering / Yahoo! Games 701 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 (408) 349-7575 office -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
you're never going to have servers worth playing on running them like that. CostCo's got cluesticks real cheap, go get some. On 6/24/05, Michael Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
nevermind smart ass. I fixed it. Dont have to get mad becusae you dont know the answer. I turned off windows 2003 servers anti dos attack.No go on being an internet tuff guy. Im cheap? I own the server. htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:27:04 -0400 There is no solution you cheap bastard. Either you own/rent/lease the box or you don't. If you do then you run it on the main OS install. If you don't then you take your cheap-bastard complaints to the steampowered forums. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Webber Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:15 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:57:39 -0400 IMHO...running a latency-sensitive program in a virual machine is perfect stupidity. You ask for someone to fix a problem that you created. Run the game server from the main Win2k3 install and then seek support. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sid Stuart Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:19 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server in such a way. From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is dropping packets. I would suggest using a tool like Etheral to monitor the traffic and see if the system is getting retransmits. Why not run the server directly on the Windows server. Or in a virtual windows environment? Your current configuration is just asking for hard to resolve problems to occur. Sid Michael Webber wrote: Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- /Sid Stuart Games Engineering / Yahoo! Games 701 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 (408) 349-7575 office -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
what makes you think anyone's mad? zoner. Looks like the server's owning you, actually. On 6/24/05, Michael Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nevermind smart ass. I fixed it. Dont have to get mad becusae you dont know the answer. I turned off windows 2003 servers anti dos attack.No go on being an internet tuff guy. Im cheap? I own the server. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
Don't post to the linux hlds mailing list with windows problems and you won't get smart ass replys. Espicialy with the set up you are trying to pull off. I am realy curious why you chose to run linux virtual servers under Win2k3 for hlds. On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 03:51:19PM -0700, Michael Webber wrote: nevermind smart ass. I fixed it. Dont have to get mad becusae you dont know the answer. I turned off windows 2003 servers anti dos attack.No go on being an internet tuff guy. Im cheap? I own the server. htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:27:04 -0400 There is no solution you cheap bastard. Either you own/rent/lease the box or you don't. If you do then you run it on the main OS install. If you don't then you take your cheap-bastard complaints to the steampowered forums. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Webber Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:15 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. htmlDIVnbsp;/DIV/html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:57:39 -0400 IMHO...running a latency-sensitive program in a virual machine is perfect stupidity. You ask for someone to fix a problem that you created. Run the game server from the main Win2k3 install and then seek support. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sid Stuart Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:19 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server in such a way. From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is dropping packets. I would suggest using a tool like Etheral to monitor the traffic and see if the system is getting retransmits. Why not run the server directly on the Windows server. Or in a virtual windows environment? Your current configuration is just asking for hard to resolve problems to occur. Sid Michael Webber wrote: Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
You own a game server hosting company? *Shudder* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Webber Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:20 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an amd 64 bit kernel (linux). The box is a Windows 2003 install, with virtual server running the linux server inside of that. The problem is the server will run fine for ever, you can play in it you can do everything, but randomly it will time out on the game server list built into steam, and my hlsw. But the people that were playing it it continue to play just fine. Just no one can find the server. It doesnt have to have people in it to time out. If I start the server before I go to bed, and then when I wake up look for server on list it will be there. But then 15 mins later it will be down and wont ever come back. Once in a while I go into console while its timed out to the server browswers, and change maps. It comes back on server list for 5 - 10 mins (its random) and then goes back into timeout. I tried starting it witn -binary ./hlds_amd and ./hlds_i686 still times out randomly. I tried addins some setmasters to no help. I even put the setmasters add in autoexec.cfg I really need some help here. Is it the windows box doing some dos attack protection? (like its being pinged to much on that port and shutting it down?) Wow while I Was typing this email the sever started responsing to hlsw and steam server locator. I wanted to see if it restarted so I typed stats and it has been up for 805 mins, so it must have been an auto map change. Yeah its back down again. :0( Its a stock 2003 install, and I know its not a problem with the hlds install becuase I did to installs. One fresh ./steam -update install and one I coppied from another working dod server of mine. Please help me with any information you can thanks so much. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:15:27 -0500, Michael Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. you HAVE to run it like that? May I ask why? There's quite a few brilliant minds on this list that could probably help you come up with a better solution. When they have a problem to work on, they're damn good at it. However when you come up with something like this, they're also very good at squeezing the trigger on the flamethrower. Out of curiosity, how many FPS does that DOD server average under a virtual machine? -- Mike DaiTengu Miller 151 Hosting http://www.151hosting.com Operations Director United Admins http://www.unitedadmins.com http://www.daitengu.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
On Friday, June 24, 2005 8:59 PM: DaiTengu [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke forth: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:15:27 -0500, Michael Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply. you HAVE to run it like that? May I ask why? He's being held hostage by a slightly MS-brainwashed penguin that can't make up it's mind on OS? Run linux! no, windows! no, linux! no, windows! Seriously, this sounds like the worst of both worlds solution. Why in $DIETY's name would you run any server app in a virtual machine when the actual box is totally available to you? If you want to run linux, install linux on the damn box!! If you want to run windows, run the windows version of the app!! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
