RE: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
Since this Bad Bone Weight problem has continued, I installed TF2 on my web server. It sits on a 0.01 load all day every day. Yet it can barely handle a single 16 player server. My server grade hardware is a Dual 1.8ghz Xeon. I have no intention of running a gaming server on this machine permanantly but if this machine can't run a TF2 server how the hell does P3 2x1ghz do anything? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Karan Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 3:11 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We are talking about server grade hardware, not a P4 you slapped together for $400 bucks. My Dual 1ghz P3 system can handle 4 16 slot CS:S servers rock solid. On 10/7/07, Evaldas Žilinskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you > have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server runing > ant > 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to > R.I.P. > some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low fps > on > durons 700mhz :) > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM > Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please > > > >A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an > > official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, or > > are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows SRCDS > > doesn't have this requirement. > > > > I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will > > likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to > > replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase > > new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this > > decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with > > the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. > > > > I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for a > > fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through > > archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about > > this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be > > saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about hosting > > this game. > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > > > -- > > cj_ > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
Regardless of the e-penis waving, there are other, faster processors than P3s that are effected by this bug. They're obviously not publisting their to-do list, so I think the best we can do is make sure our voice is heard in a constructive manner. Quoting Kevin Karan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It is an HP LH3 Netserver with 2 1ghz P3 Xeon processors. This machine was originally used as an university windows domain controller for over 400 stations. Please don't get uppity with me when you have no idea what you are talking about. On 10/7/07, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could you define "server grade hardware" aka list it, because i'm having a really hard time imagining your 1 GHz (even if its dual) server running 4x16 slot CS Source servers. Unless of course, they are empty or none of them is full. -ics Kevin Karan kirjoitti: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > We are talking about server grade hardware, not a P4 you slapped together > for $400 bucks. My Dual 1ghz P3 system can handle 4 16 slot CS:S servers > rock solid. > > On 10/7/07, Evaldas Žilinskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you >> have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server runing >> ant >> 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to >> R.I.P. >> some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low fps >> on >> durons 700mhz :) >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM >> Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please >> >> >> >>> A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an >>> official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, or >>> are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows SRCDS >>> doesn't have this requirement. >>> >>> I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will >>> likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to >>> replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase >>> new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this >>> decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with >>> the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. >>> >>> I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for a >>> fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through >>> archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about >>> this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be >>> saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about hosting >>> this game. >>> >>> Thanks for your time! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> cj_ >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
Original message from Evaldas ??ilinskas: > How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you > have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server runing > ant > 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to > R.I.P. > some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low fps > on > durons 700mhz :) I don't particularly want to argue with you about the performance of my hardware. This is about the Linux binary not running at all on this architecture, while the Windows one does. I assure you the machine is fast enough -- I'm not talking about some old desktop machine sitting in my garage. This isn't really up for debate, sorry. -- cj_ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It is an HP LH3 Netserver with 2 1ghz P3 Xeon processors. This machine was originally used as an university windows domain controller for over 400 stations. Please don't get uppity with me when you have no idea what you are talking about. On 10/7/07, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you define "server grade hardware" aka list it, because i'm having > a really hard time imagining your 1 GHz (even if its dual) server > running 4x16 slot CS Source servers. Unless of course, they are empty or > none of them is full. > > -ics > > Kevin Karan kirjoitti: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > We are talking about server grade hardware, not a P4 you slapped > together > > for $400 bucks. My Dual 1ghz P3 system can handle 4 16 slot CS:S servers > > rock solid. > > > > On 10/7/07, Evaldas Žilinskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you > >> have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server > runing > >> ant > >> 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to > >> R.I.P. > >> some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low > fps > >> on > >> durons 700mhz :) > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM > >> Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please > >> > >> > >> > >>> A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an > >>> official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, > or > >>> are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows > SRCDS > >>> doesn't have this requirement. > >>> > >>> I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will > >>> likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to > >>> replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase > >>> new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this > >>> decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with > >>> the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. > >>> > >>> I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for > a > >>> fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through > >>> archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about > >>> this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be > >>> saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about > hosting > >>> this game. > >>> > >>> Thanks for your time! > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> cj_ > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
AW: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
IMO his server isn't from interest here. The point is: I'm not going to update my server to newer hardware, because valve isn't capable of writing a server running on "normal" x86 hardware. Period. > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von ics > Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 20:06 > An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? > yes/no please > > Could you define "server grade hardware" aka list it, because > i'm having a really hard time imagining your 1 GHz (even if > its dual) server running 4x16 slot CS Source servers. Unless > of course, they are empty or none of them is full. > > -ics > > Kevin Karan kirjoitti: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We are > talking about > > server grade hardware, not a P4 you slapped together for > $400 bucks. > > My Dual 1ghz P3 system can handle 4 16 slot CS:S servers rock solid. > > > > On 10/7/07, Evaldas Žilinskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of > hardware do > >> you have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot > dods server > >> runing ant 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, > >> isn't a time to R.I.P. > >> some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for > getting low > >> fps on durons 700mhz :) > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM > >> Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? > yes/no please > >> > >> > >> > >>> A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we > please get an > >>> official word on whether the Linux binary will support this > >>> hardware, or are we wasting our time? Like others have > pointed out, > >>> the Windows SRCDS doesn't have this requirement. > >>> > >>> I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I > >>> will likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I > cannot afford > >>> to replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to > >>> purchase new hardware. But at least give us the data we > need to make > >>> this decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this > >>> game with the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for > CS:S for years now. > >>> > >>> I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait > >>> for a fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or > not. Looking > >>> through archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting > >>> information about this issue. On person says this isn't intended, > >>> Alfred seems to be saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm > >>> very excited about hosting this game. > >>> > >>> Thanks for your time! > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> cj_ > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.3/1054 - Release > Date: 06.10.2007 19:12 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.3/1054 - Release Date: 06.10.2007 19:12 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
Could you define "server grade hardware" aka list it, because i'm having a really hard time imagining your 1 GHz (even if its dual) server running 4x16 slot CS Source servers. Unless of course, they are empty or none of them is full. -ics Kevin Karan kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We are talking about server grade hardware, not a P4 you slapped together for $400 bucks. My Dual 1ghz P3 system can handle 4 16 slot CS:S servers rock solid. On 10/7/07, Evaldas Žilinskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server runing ant 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to R.I.P. some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low fps on durons 700mhz :) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, or are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows SRCDS doesn't have this requirement. I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for a fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about hosting this game. Thanks for your time! -- cj_ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We are talking about server grade hardware, not a P4 you slapped together for $400 bucks. My Dual 1ghz P3 system can handle 4 16 slot CS:S servers rock solid. On 10/7/07, Evaldas Žilinskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you > have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server runing > ant > 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to > R.I.P. > some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low fps > on > durons 700mhz :) > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM > Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please > > > >A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an > > official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, or > > are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows SRCDS > > doesn't have this requirement. > > > > I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will > > likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to > > replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase > > new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this > > decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with > > the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. > > > > I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for a > > fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through > > archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about > > this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be > > saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about hosting > > this game. > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > > > -- > > cj_ > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
How do you run SRCDS stable on P3? I mean, what kind of hardware do you have? I have few P4s with 3ghz ant HT, but one 24slot dods server runing ant 66tick and ~200fps is maximum what can I get. I mean, isn't a time to R.I.P. some old hardware? 'cause soon we'll be blaming valve for getting low fps on durons 700mhz :) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, or are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows SRCDS doesn't have this requirement. I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for a fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about hosting this game. Thanks for your time! -- cj_ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] So.. p3 support for linux binary? yes/no please
A lot of us have fast, server-grade P3 servers. Can we please get an official word on whether the Linux binary will support this hardware, or are we wasting our time? Like others have pointed out, the Windows SRCDS doesn't have this requirement. I just want a clear answer on this so I can assess my options. I will likely just abandon TF2 hosting personally, as I cannot afford to replace all my machines at this time -- others may choose to purchase new hardware. But at least give us the data we need to make this decision! My trusty P3 servers are fast enough to run this game with the maxplayers I have in mind, and did so for CS:S for years now. I understand the game is essentially beta, and I am happy to wait for a fix. I just want to know if one is forthcoming or not. Looking through archives of this list, I'm seeing very conflicting information about this issue. On person says this isn't intended, Alfred seems to be saying we're SOL. I hope this isn't true, I'm very excited about hosting this game. Thanks for your time! -- cj_ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
