Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
I've been following the GameSpy stats as well. From what I can tell, there is definately an over-saturation of servers per player. I mean, HL at best has like an overall 3.5 players per server. UT, Q3, UT2K, Wolfenstein... they all still manage a 1-2 players per server. So, I doubt the players are headed there. Now, the only one doing better at the Player:Server ratio is America's Army. They typically always hold a 4-6 players per server ratio. I've even seen it go to 7-9. Needless to say, there are still too many servers for the amount of players. Anyway, those are the stats I've been watching. Especially, when I'm approached by others that are thinking about renting servers out. IMO, they'd be better off making money with those servers by hosting something other than a game server. HoundDawg United Admins - Game Server Admin Association http://www.unitedadmins.com - Original Message - From: "Rich Carrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > How do those numbers speak for themselves? "Massive exodus"? I've been > roughly following the Gamespy statistics for well over a year, and there is > no evidence of any such massive exodus to Wolfenstein (overlooking the fact > that the Gamespy numbers don't track any sort of "exodus" from players of > one game to another). > > In fact, instead of losing numbers, I would argue that Counter-Strike has > gained players. I just looked at the statistics right now at 12:45PM PST on > a Thursday, and they told me that CS alone has over 106,000 players right > now. That would compare favorably with last year, when in the middle of > summer CS had 60,000 players at noon on a weekday. That's an increase of > over 45,000 players during a comparable weekday last year. And it isn't even > peak hours right now. > > I think it's important to remember that just because people who have been > playing CS since Beta 1 decide that they want a change, that doesn't > necessarily mean that the people who picked up the game recently are ready > to put it down any time soon. > > > ___ > > TorchedN00dle > http://csnation.counter-strike.net/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:26 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > > > > > I really think it just a myth that CS is loosing players by the > > > billions... it sounds good, but no one has any actual proof. > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1 > > > > Those numbers speak for themselves. There's been a massive exodus away > > from HL-based mods to Wolfenstein3D mods. > > > > -- > > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
Oops, sorry my bad. I deleted the reply where he said that. It's still addressed to all the freaks who claim that CS is hemorrhaging players, though. There's still plenty of them out there. ___ TorchedN00dle http://csnation.counter-strike.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hi n00dle, > > maybe you should have read Eric's reply: > Actually I said "Wolfenstein3D", not "RTCW". And yes, I was employing > the cryptic tactic known as "sarcasm". :) > -- > Eric (the Deacon remix) > ;) > > Sebastian > > At 13:08 19.12.2002 -0800, you wrote: > >How do those numbers speak for themselves? "Massive exodus"? I've been > >roughly following the Gamespy statistics for well over a year, and there is > >no evidence of any such massive exodus to Wolfenstein (overlooking the fact > >that the Gamespy numbers don't track any sort of "exodus" from players of > >one game to another). > > > >In fact, instead of losing numbers, I would argue that Counter-Strike has > >gained players. I just looked at the statistics right now at 12:45PM PST on > >a Thursday, and they told me that CS alone has over 106,000 players right > >now. That would compare favorably with last year, when in the middle of > >summer CS had 60,000 players at noon on a weekday. That's an increase of > >over 45,000 players during a comparable weekday last year. And it isn't even > >peak hours right now. > > > >I think it's important to remember that just because people who have been > >playing CS since Beta 1 decide that they want a change, that doesn't > >necessarily mean that the people who picked up the game recently are ready > >to put it down any time soon. > > > > > >_______________ > > > >TorchedN00dle > >http://csnation.counter-strike.net/ > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:26 AM > >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > > > > > > > > I really think it just a myth that CS is loosing players by the > > > > billions... it sounds good, but no one has any actual proof. > > > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ > > > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1 > > > > > > Those numbers speak for themselves. There's been a massive exodus away > > > from HL-based mods to Wolfenstein3D mods. > > > > > > -- > > > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >___ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
Let me quote the wise and powerful Deacon... "Actually I said "Wolfenstein3D", not "RTCW". And yes, I was employing the cryptic tactic known as "sarcasm". :)" He was being sarcastic. CS is not losing players. We know. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rich Carrillo Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM How do those numbers speak for themselves? "Massive exodus"? I've been roughly following the Gamespy statistics for well over a year, and there is no evidence of any such massive exodus to Wolfenstein (overlooking the fact that the Gamespy numbers don't track any sort of "exodus" from players of one game to another). In fact, instead of losing numbers, I would argue that Counter-Strike has gained players. I just looked at the statistics right now at 12:45PM PST on a Thursday, and they told me that CS alone has over 106,000 players right now. That would compare favorably with last year, when in the middle of summer CS had 60,000 players at noon on a weekday. That's an increase of over 45,000 players during a comparable weekday last year. And it isn't even peak hours right now. I think it's important to remember that just because people who have been playing CS since Beta 1 decide that they want a change, that doesn't necessarily mean that the people who picked up the game recently are ready to put it down any time soon. ___ TorchedN00dle http://csnation.counter-strike.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:26 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > > I really think it just a myth that CS is loosing players by the > > billions... it sounds good, but no one has any actual proof. > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1 > > Those numbers speak for themselves. There's been a massive exodus away > from HL-based mods to Wolfenstein3D mods. > > -- > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi n00dle, maybe you should have read Eric's reply: Actually I said "Wolfenstein3D", not "RTCW". And yes, I was employing the cryptic tactic known as "sarcasm". :) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ;) Sebastian At 13:08 19.12.2002 -0800, you wrote: >How do those numbers speak for themselves? "Massive exodus"? I've been >roughly following the Gamespy statistics for well over a year, and there is >no evidence of any such massive exodus to Wolfenstein (overlooking the fact >that the Gamespy numbers don't track any sort of "exodus" from players of >one game to another). > >In fact, instead of losing numbers, I would argue that Counter-Strike has >gained players. I just looked at the statistics right now at 12:45PM PST on >a Thursday, and they told me that CS alone has over 106,000 players right >now. That would compare favorably with last year, when in the middle of >summer CS had 60,000 players at noon on a weekday. That's an increase of >over 45,000 players during a comparable weekday last year. And it isn't even >peak hours right now. > >I think it's important to remember that just because people who have been >playing CS since Beta 1 decide that they want a change, that doesn't >necessarily mean that the people who picked up the game recently are ready >to put it down any time soon. > > >___ > >TorchedN00dle >http://csnation.counter-strike.net/ >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >----- Original Message - >From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:26 AM >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > > > > > I really think it just a myth that CS is loosing players by the > > > billions... it sounds good, but no one has any actual proof. > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1 > > > > Those numbers speak for themselves. There's been a massive exodus away > > from HL-based mods to Wolfenstein3D mods. > > > > -- > > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
How do those numbers speak for themselves? "Massive exodus"? I've been roughly following the Gamespy statistics for well over a year, and there is no evidence of any such massive exodus to Wolfenstein (overlooking the fact that the Gamespy numbers don't track any sort of "exodus" from players of one game to another). In fact, instead of losing numbers, I would argue that Counter-Strike has gained players. I just looked at the statistics right now at 12:45PM PST on a Thursday, and they told me that CS alone has over 106,000 players right now. That would compare favorably with last year, when in the middle of summer CS had 60,000 players at noon on a weekday. That's an increase of over 45,000 players during a comparable weekday last year. And it isn't even peak hours right now. I think it's important to remember that just because people who have been playing CS since Beta 1 decide that they want a change, that doesn't necessarily mean that the people who picked up the game recently are ready to put it down any time soon. ___ TorchedN00dle http://csnation.counter-strike.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:26 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > > I really think it just a myth that CS is loosing players by the > > billions... it sounds good, but no one has any actual proof. > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1 > > Those numbers speak for themselves. There's been a massive exodus away > from HL-based mods to Wolfenstein3D mods. > > -- > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
Yeah n00b! (Of course, I'm just being a dumbass.) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
Actually I said "Wolfenstein3D", not "RTCW". And yes, I was employing the cryptic tactic known as "sarcasm". :) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:10 PM To: hlds Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM ? He is talking about The Return to Castle Wolfenstein which is sorta new, newer than CS anyway. http://www.idsoftware.com/index.php?flash=true&version=5 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 10:50, Tyler "Overkill" Schwend wrote: > Haha Wolfenstein 3d? Freakin' classics never die! > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
? He is talking about The Return to Castle Wolfenstein which is sorta new, newer than CS anyway. http://www.idsoftware.com/index.php?flash=true&version=5 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 10:50, Tyler "Overkill" Schwend wrote: > Haha Wolfenstein 3d? Freakin' classics never die! > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM
Perhaps he was employing sarcasm, which is always dangerous on this list. ~vap - Original Message - From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and HLDM > Eric (Deacon) wrote: > >>I really think it just a myth that CS is loosing players by the > >>billions... it sounds good, but no one has any actual proof. > > > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ > > > > http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1 > > > > Those numbers speak for themselves. There's been a massive exodus away > > from HL-based mods to Wolfenstein3D mods. > > > > -- > > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > Did I miss something here? The links you posted, don't support > your statement. > > -- > - m0gely > http://quake2.telestream.com/ > Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
