[OT] Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
james, don't bottom post jeez, not this shit again James Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:10:06AM -0800, Jules (aka Buddha-Pest) wrote: | ummm, no... | | i'm glad you're on the team, but that's not the way i remember it. unless | you guys changed a bunch of stuff. | | what CD does on the client side is inject itself into hl the same way most | cheats do thus preventing cheats from loading. | | if you are really detecting cheats, why NOT send the info to the server? | | me thinks you're fibbing a bit here. | | Mike Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message | news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | LOL | | It does detect cheats, it just doesnt tell the server. Thats why you get | | code errors if you try loading it up with OGC. | | Im on the UA anticheat team, I know what Im talking about. | | Jules, don't top post. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:10:06AM -0800, Jules (aka Buddha-Pest) wrote: ummm, no... i'm glad you're on the team, but that's not the way i remember it. unless you guys changed a bunch of stuff. what CD does on the client side is inject itself into hl the same way most cheats do thus preventing cheats from loading. if you are really detecting cheats, why NOT send the info to the server? me thinks you're fibbing a bit here. Mike Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LOL It does detect cheats, it just doesnt tell the server. Thats why you get code errors if you try loading it up with OGC. Im on the UA anticheat team, I know what Im talking about. Jules, don't top post. C-D does detect, but doesn't tell. It would be mint if it did tell. From what I can gather C-D only responds to server probes. If the HL client give errors before its joined the HL Server then the C-D server can't send a probe so won't get a reponse. Skitzo - does this sound right? Heh, yeah, you made things so much clearer with your bottom post to the top post and not trimming anything else away ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:51:19PM -0600, Eric (Deacon) wrote: Heh, yeah, you made things so much clearer with your bottom post to the top post and not trimming anything else away ;) That is why he shouldn't have top posted, it ruins the flow. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
There's a perl one available ;) - Original Message - From: Adam Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:58 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D Slight decrease in traffic, but all the regulars are still there. I think as word spreads about the All New C-D (tm) numbers will pick up again. Running C-D client side is less hassle than putting up with cheats ruining your fun. I might look into running a mediator if one comes out that doesn't require logd, statsme or amxmod. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of HLDS List Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D So what's the preferred configuration? C-D + HLGuard or C-D alone? I love HLGuard's wallhack block, but hate the extra drain on my servers. If C-D is an all-in-one tool, that'd be fantastic! Have you noticed any decrease in traffic by running your server in Insecure mode? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
Im using AMX also. - Original Message - From: James Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 07:23:05AM +1300, Mike Hodgkinson wrote: If its crashing lots with no error message downgrade from metamod 1.15 to 1.14.1, fixed my instability issues. I had exactly the opposite, I HAD to go from 1.14.1 to 1.15 to get it to work. (I am using amxmod not adminmod.) -- James. - Original Message - From: Tyler Overkill Schwend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D Am I the only person who has stability problems with C-D?! - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. Waiting for our enemies to strike us first is as dangerous and irresponsible as it is an act of ignorance. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic)
Dude its running well on my server so far ;-) Mike (aka -Asylum-Skitzo) - Original Message - From: Justin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic) lol yeah. I completely ruins my matching skills. I can't go back and forth between the two and be decent. I think I'm done with the mediator plugin too. Works well! I'll release it on amxmod.net after I get a few people to test it :) Justin (aka JustinHoMi aka Skel.MoD :)) - Original Message - From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic) Yeaaah. I put it on there for a couple days to try it out and now no one will let me take it off :(. I'm sick of it! You can see it here - http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5620 Or play it at: 64.5.44.97:27015 You're sick of it? I think it rocks! :) It's a great way to freshen up CS when you just feel like messing around. It's really interesting, actually, in that it attracts high-level players that normally don't pub much at the same time as lower level scrubs. It's fun being one of the better players ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic)
Do you run linux or windows servers? Dude its running well on my server so far ;-) Mike (aka -Asylum-Skitzo) - Original Message - From: Justin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic) lol yeah. I completely ruins my matching skills. I can't go back and forth between the two and be decent. I think I'm done with the mediator plugin too. Works well! I'll release it on amxmod.net after I get a few people to test it :) Justin (aka JustinHoMi aka Skel.MoD :)) - Original Message - From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic) Yeaaah. I put it on there for a couple days to try it out and now no one will let me take it off :(. I'm sick of it! You can see it here - http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5620 Or play it at: 64.5.44.97:27015 You're sick of it? I think it rocks! :) It's a great way to freshen up CS when you just feel like messing around. It's really interesting, actually, in that it attracts high-level players that normally don't pub much at the same time as lower level scrubs. It's fun being one of the better players ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So, the discussion has to go on ;-) I think it is more difficult for the admins to decide which AC technology they should use on their servers, if VALVe won't publish a list of detected cheats. We cannot compare... But if you don't like to give us that list, it would be fair, if you could tell us, when VAC detects more cheats than C-D blocks. The decision is not easy for me. Maybe the members of this list can help me getting a favorite :-) cheers Rouven -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
C-D detects more cheats than VAC and the development team are working on the ones that arent. No prizes for guessing what I use. - Original Message - From: Rouven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So, the discussion has to go on ;-) I think it is more difficult for the admins to decide which AC technology they should use on their servers, if VALVe won't publish a list of detected cheats. We cannot compare... But if you don't like to give us that list, it would be fair, if you could tell us, when VAC detects more cheats than C-D blocks. The decision is not easy for me. Maybe the members of this list can help me getting a favorite :-) cheers Rouven -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
I switched to C-D and am VERY happy :) - Original Message - From: Mike Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D C-D detects more cheats than VAC and the development team are working on the ones that arent. No prizes for guessing what I use. - Original Message - From: Rouven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So, the discussion has to go on ;-) I think it is more difficult for the admins to decide which AC technology they should use on their servers, if VALVe won't publish a list of detected cheats. We cannot compare... But if you don't like to give us that list, it would be fair, if you could tell us, when VAC detects more cheats than C-D blocks. The decision is not easy for me. Maybe the members of this list can help me getting a favorite :-) cheers Rouven -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
My servers all went CD req today after about a week of optional. Servers are pinging better due to the lower load of no VAC. Finally feel like I have a level playing field on my servers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Justin Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D I switched to C-D and am VERY happy :) - Original Message - From: Mike Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D C-D detects more cheats than VAC and the development team are working on the ones that arent. No prizes for guessing what I use. - Original Message - From: Rouven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So, the discussion has to go on ;-) I think it is more difficult for the admins to decide which AC technology they should use on their servers, if VALVe won't publish a list of detected cheats. We cannot compare... But if you don't like to give us that list, it would be fair, if you could tell us, when VAC detects more cheats than C-D blocks. The decision is not easy for me. Maybe the members of this list can help me getting a favorite :-) cheers Rouven -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
IIRC C-D doesn't detect specific cheats, but blocks them. - PiTaGoRaS - - Original Message - From: Mike Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D C-D detects more cheats than VAC and the development team are working on the ones that arent. No prizes for guessing what I use. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [good] RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
Skel is working on a plugin that allows users to connect in optional mode until they achieve a definable number of kills and/or kill/death ratio. If they hit the limit(s), they'll be booted to the console with a message saying that to continue playing there, they'll need to install C-D and have it running the next time they connect. Keeps it all fun :) PS Contact info is available at www.modkillers.com, and yes, it is in the same general area as Mediator. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic)
Yeaaah. I put it on there for a couple days to try it out and now no one will let me take it off :(. I'm sick of it! You can see it here - http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5620 Or play it at: 64.5.44.97:27015 You're sick of it? I think it rocks! :) It's a great way to freshen up CS when you just feel like messing around. It's really interesting, actually, in that it attracts high-level players that normally don't pub much at the same time as lower level scrubs. It's fun being one of the better players ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
warcraft3 plugin? Lol Does that amuse you? :) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic)
lol yeah. I completely ruins my matching skills. I can't go back and forth between the two and be decent. I think I'm done with the mediator plugin too. Works well! I'll release it on amxmod.net after I get a few people to test it :) Justin (aka JustinHoMi aka Skel.MoD :)) - Original Message - From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic) Yeaaah. I put it on there for a couple days to try it out and now no one will let me take it off :(. I'm sick of it! You can see it here - http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5620 Or play it at: 64.5.44.97:27015 You're sick of it? I think it rocks! :) It's a great way to freshen up CS when you just feel like messing around. It's really interesting, actually, in that it attracts high-level players that normally don't pub much at the same time as lower level scrubs. It's fun being one of the better players ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D (off topic)
Thus spaketh [EMAIL PROTECTED] on : : You're sick of it? I think it rocks! :) It's a great way to : freshen up CS when you just feel like messing around. It's : really interesting, actually, in that it attracts high-level : players that normally don't pub much at the same time as lower : level scrubs. It's fun being one of the better players ;) I had it on full time on my server with persistent XP for a couple weeks. Ended up alienating a lot of my regs who are decent players, but were getting spanked by the kids spending hours at a time gaining levels. I've since moved it to weekends only with no persistent XP. Seems to even the field a bit, and keep everyone happy. -- Tim ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D
Slight decrease in traffic, but all the regulars are still there. I think as word spreads about the All New C-D (tm) numbers will pick up again. Running C-D client side is less hassle than putting up with cheats ruining your fun. I might look into running a mediator if one comes out that doesn't require logd, statsme or amxmod. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of HLDS List Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC or C-D So what's the preferred configuration? C-D + HLGuard or C-D alone? I love HLGuard's wallhack block, but hate the extra drain on my servers. If C-D is an all-in-one tool, that'd be fantastic! Have you noticed any decrease in traffic by running your server in Insecure mode? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
