Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Daniel Worley]

I think a while back setting a search key would remove your server from the
public pool, that behavior changed for me after the expansion pack was
released.

2009/6/28 bl4nk 

> Ronny's right on this one. I have some all of my servers set up with a
> search key, and some with the group exclusive cvar. The ones without the
> group cvar work exactly like public servers. Anyone can join them. The
> others, however, only allow connections from the Steam group I have them
> set to. Using the search key on my client will sometimes put me in
> either one of my servers with the cvar or one without it.
>
> Ronny Schedel wrote:
> > Then the big question: why my 10 vanilla servers work like it is
> intended?
> > Must be some magic.
> >
> >
> >
> >> No, if the server has a search key set, then the only way a lobby can
> >> access
> >> it is if the leader inputs the correct key. No random lobby will find it
> >> otherwise. It's been like that pretty much since day 1. Stevo was
> correct
> >> in
> >> that if the lobby leader has a blank search key, he will only search for
> >> servers that also have a blank search key. In fact there's been a number
> >> of
> >> discussions on this list on how to work around having a search key on
> your
> >> server as well as letting public lobbys access the server since it
> doesn't
> >> work that way by default.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
> >>
> >>
> >>> No, if the client has an empty search key, the master server will
> respond
> >>> with any server. If the client sets a search key, the master server
> will
> >>> only respond with servers with the same search key. It acts like the
> >>> normal
> >>> Steam game browser filters, where you can filter by map name, region or
> >>> game. If you don't set the filter, you get every single server in the
> >>> world.
> >>> To understand it better, you should consider the search key as a
> filter.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Servers have a default search key of "" (blank), as do the clients.
>  Therefore, server search is restricted to servers with blank search
>  keys, since "" == "". So it does effectively make the server private
> to
>  those who know the key. That is until the game starts, which then lets
>  anyone join any free slots.
> 
>  Ronny Schedel wrote:
> 
> > If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the
> > description
> > of this variable:
> >
> > When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to
> >
> >>> only
> >>>
> > dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members.
> >> With
> >> the
> >> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
> >> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your
> >> servers,
> >> but
> >> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked
> >> to.
> >>
> >> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel
> >>  https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only
> >>> what
> >>> the
> >>> name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set,
> and
> >>> the
> >>> servers are used from public players also. The search key offers
> the
> >>> lobby
> >>> leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers
> >>> remains
> >>> still public and open to everyone.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if
>  they
> 
> 
> >>> know
> >>>
> >>>
>  the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by
>  simply
>  having
>  the search key enabled on them
> 
>  2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel
>   https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
> 
> >>> 
> >>>
> 
> 
> > The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is
> > just
> > a
> > search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To
> make
> > a
> > server
> > private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which
> > does
> > not
> > seem to work now.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> There have been a few people saying that its not working since
> >> the
> >>
> >>
> >>> last
> >>>
> >>>
> >> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private
> >> and
> >> only
> >> your private lobbys can access the server.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <

Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[bl4nk]

Ronny's right on this one. I have some all of my servers set up with a 
search key, and some with the group exclusive cvar. The ones without the 
group cvar work exactly like public servers. Anyone can join them. The 
others, however, only allow connections from the Steam group I have them 
set to. Using the search key on my client will sometimes put me in 
either one of my servers with the cvar or one without it.

Ronny Schedel wrote:
> Then the big question: why my 10 vanilla servers work like it is intended? 
> Must be some magic.
>
>
>   
>> No, if the server has a search key set, then the only way a lobby can 
>> access
>> it is if the leader inputs the correct key. No random lobby will find it
>> otherwise. It's been like that pretty much since day 1. Stevo was correct 
>> in
>> that if the lobby leader has a blank search key, he will only search for
>> servers that also have a blank search key. In fact there's been a number 
>> of
>> discussions on this list on how to work around having a search key on your
>> server as well as letting public lobbys access the server since it doesn't
>> work that way by default.
>>
>>
>> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>>
>> 
>>> No, if the client has an empty search key, the master server will respond
>>> with any server. If the client sets a search key, the master server will
>>> only respond with servers with the same search key. It acts like the 
>>> normal
>>> Steam game browser filters, where you can filter by map name, region or
>>> game. If you don't set the filter, you get every single server in the
>>> world.
>>> To understand it better, you should consider the search key as a filter.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Servers have a default search key of "" (blank), as do the clients.
 Therefore, server search is restricted to servers with blank search
 keys, since "" == "". So it does effectively make the server private to
 those who know the key. That is until the game starts, which then lets
 anyone join any free slots.

 Ronny Schedel wrote:
 
> If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the
> description
> of this variable:
>
> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to
>   
>>> only
>>>   
> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.
>
>
>
>
>   
>> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. 
>> With
>> the
>> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
>> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your 
>> servers,
>> but
>> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked 
>> to.
>>
>> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>> https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
>> 
>> 
>>> Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only 
>>> what
>>> the
>>> name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and
>>> the
>>> servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the
>>> lobby
>>> leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers
>>> remains
>>> still public and open to everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if 
 they

 
>>> know
>>>
>>>   
 the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by 
 simply
 having
 the search key enabled on them

 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel
 https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
 
>>> 
>>>   

 
> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is 
> just
> a
> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make 
> a
> server
> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which
> does
> not
> seem to work now.
>
>
>
>   
>> There have been a few people saying that its not working since 
>> the
>>
>> 
>>> last
>>>
>>>   
>> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private 
>> and
>> only
>> your private lobbys can access the server.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>> djfireb...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 

Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Ronny Schedel]

Then the big question: why my 10 vanilla servers work like it is intended? 
Must be some magic.


> No, if the server has a search key set, then the only way a lobby can 
> access
> it is if the leader inputs the correct key. No random lobby will find it
> otherwise. It's been like that pretty much since day 1. Stevo was correct 
> in
> that if the lobby leader has a blank search key, he will only search for
> servers that also have a blank search key. In fact there's been a number 
> of
> discussions on this list on how to work around having a search key on your
> server as well as letting public lobbys access the server since it doesn't
> work that way by default.
>
>
> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>
>>
>> No, if the client has an empty search key, the master server will respond
>> with any server. If the client sets a search key, the master server will
>> only respond with servers with the same search key. It acts like the 
>> normal
>> Steam game browser filters, where you can filter by map name, region or
>> game. If you don't set the filter, you get every single server in the
>> world.
>> To understand it better, you should consider the search key as a filter.
>>
>>
>> > Servers have a default search key of "" (blank), as do the clients.
>> > Therefore, server search is restricted to servers with blank search
>> > keys, since "" == "". So it does effectively make the server private to
>> > those who know the key. That is until the game starts, which then lets
>> > anyone join any free slots.
>> >
>> > Ronny Schedel wrote:
>> >> If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the
>> >> description
>> >> of this variable:
>> >>
>> >> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to
>> only
>> >> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. 
>> >>> With
>> >>> the
>> >>> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
>> >>> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your 
>> >>> servers,
>> >>> but
>> >>> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked 
>> >>> to.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>> >>> https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only 
>>  what
>>  the
>>  name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and
>>  the
>>  servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the
>>  lobby
>>  leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers
>>  remains
>>  still public and open to everyone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if 
>> > they
>> >
>>  know
>> 
>> > the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by 
>> > simply
>> > having
>> > the search key enabled on them
>> >
>> > 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel
>> > https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is 
>> >> just
>> >> a
>> >> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make 
>> >> a
>> >> server
>> >> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which
>> >> does
>> >> not
>> >> seem to work now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> There have been a few people saying that its not working since 
>> >>> the
>> >>>
>>  last
>> 
>> >>> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private 
>> >>> and
>> >>> only
>> >>> your private lobbys can access the server.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>> >>> djfireb...@gmail.com
>> 
>> >>>
>>  >
>> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>>  After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings 
>>  are
>>  no
>>  longer
>>  working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with
>> public
>>  players.
>>  \what's the problem?
>> 
>>  - Linux Dedicated server
>>  - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>>  sv_steamgroup set to my number
>>  sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>>  sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>>  sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>> 
>>  Nikita
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Brent Veal]

No, if the server has a search key set, then the only way a lobby can access
it is if the leader inputs the correct key. No random lobby will find it
otherwise. It's been like that pretty much since day 1. Stevo was correct in
that if the lobby leader has a blank search key, he will only search for
servers that also have a blank search key. In fact there's been a number of
discussions on this list on how to work around having a search key on your
server as well as letting public lobbys access the server since it doesn't
work that way by default.


2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 

>
> No, if the client has an empty search key, the master server will respond
> with any server. If the client sets a search key, the master server will
> only respond with servers with the same search key. It acts like the normal
> Steam game browser filters, where you can filter by map name, region or
> game. If you don't set the filter, you get every single server in the
> world.
> To understand it better, you should consider the search key as a filter.
>
>
> > Servers have a default search key of "" (blank), as do the clients.
> > Therefore, server search is restricted to servers with blank search
> > keys, since "" == "". So it does effectively make the server private to
> > those who know the key. That is until the game starts, which then lets
> > anyone join any free slots.
> >
> > Ronny Schedel wrote:
> >> If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the
> >> description
> >> of this variable:
> >>
> >> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to
> only
> >> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. With
> >>> the
> >>> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
> >>> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your servers,
> >>> but
> >>> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked to.
> >>>
> >>> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
> >>> https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
> >
> >>>
> >>>
>  Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what
>  the
>  name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and
>  the
>  servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the
>  lobby
>  leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers
>  remains
>  still public and open to everyone.
> 
> 
> 
> > If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they
> >
>  know
> 
> > the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply
> > having
> > the search key enabled on them
> >
> > 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel
> > https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just
> >> a
> >> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a
> >> server
> >> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which
> >> does
> >> not
> >> seem to work now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> There have been a few people saying that its not working since the
> >>>
>  last
> 
> >>> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and
> >>> only
> >>> your private lobbys can access the server.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
> >>> djfireb...@gmail.com
> 
> >>>
>  >
> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
>  After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are
>  no
>  longer
>  working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with
> public
>  players.
>  \what's the problem?
> 
>  - Linux Dedicated server
>  - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>  sv_steamgroup set to my number
>  sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>  sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>  sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
> 
>  Nikita
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Ronny Schedel]

No, if the client has an empty search key, the master server will respond 
with any server. If the client sets a search key, the master server will 
only respond with servers with the same search key. It acts like the normal 
Steam game browser filters, where you can filter by map name, region or 
game. If you don't set the filter, you get every single server in the world. 
To understand it better, you should consider the search key as a filter.


> Servers have a default search key of "" (blank), as do the clients.
> Therefore, server search is restricted to servers with blank search
> keys, since "" == "". So it does effectively make the server private to
> those who know the key. That is until the game starts, which then lets
> anyone join any free slots.
>
> Ronny Schedel wrote:
>> If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the 
>> description
>> of this variable:
>>
>> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to only
>> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. With 
>>> the
>>> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
>>> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your servers,
>>> but
>>> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked to.
>>>
>>> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>>>
>>>
 Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what
 the
 name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and 
 the
 servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the
 lobby
 leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers
 remains
 still public and open to everyone.



> If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they
>
 know

> the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply
> having
> the search key enabled on them
>
> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel
> https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
>
>
>
>> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just 
>> a
>> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a
>> server
>> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which 
>> does
>> not
>> seem to work now.
>>
>>
>>
>>> There have been a few people saying that its not working since the
>>>
 last

>>> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and
>>> only
>>> your private lobbys can access the server.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>>> djfireb...@gmail.com
>>>
 >

>> wrote:
>>
 After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are
 no
 longer
 working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
 players.
 \what's the problem?

 - Linux Dedicated server
 - version 1.0.1.4 3881
 sv_steamgroup set to my number
 sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
 sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
 sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"

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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[StevoTVR]

Servers have a default search key of "" (blank), as do the clients. 
Therefore, server search is restricted to servers with blank search 
keys, since "" == "". So it does effectively make the server private to 
those who know the key. That is until the game starts, which then lets 
anyone join any free slots.

Ronny Schedel wrote:
> If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the description 
> of this variable:
>
> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to only 
> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.
>
>
>
>   
>> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. With the
>> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
>> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your servers, 
>> but
>> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked to.
>>
>> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>>
>> 
>>> Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what 
>>> the
>>> name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and the
>>> servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the 
>>> lobby
>>> leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers 
>>> remains
>>> still public and open to everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they
 
>>> know
>>>   
 the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply
 having
 the search key enabled on them

 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
 https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>


 
> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a
> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a
> server
> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does
> not
> seem to work now.
>
>
>   
>> There have been a few people saying that its not working since the
>> 
>>> last
>>>   
>> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and
>> only
>> your private lobbys can access the server.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>> djfireb...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> >
>>>   
> wrote:
>   
>>> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are 
>>> no
>>> longer
>>> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
>>> players.
>>> \what's the problem?
>>>
>>> - Linux Dedicated server
>>> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>>> sv_steamgroup set to my number
>>> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>>> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>>> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>>>
>>> Nikita
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Ronny Schedel]

If you don't trust me, you just have to read and understand the description 
of this variable:

When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to only 
dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.



> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. With the
> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your servers, 
> but
> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked to.
>
> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>
>>
>> Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what 
>> the
>> name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and the
>> servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the 
>> lobby
>> leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers 
>> remains
>> still public and open to everyone.
>>
>>
>> > If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they
>> know
>> > the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply
>> > having
>> > the search key enabled on them
>> >
>> > 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>> > https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a
>> >> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a
>> >> server
>> >> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does
>> >> not
>> >> seem to work now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > There have been a few people saying that its not working since the
>> last
>> >> > update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and
>> >> > only
>> >> > your private lobbys can access the server.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>> >> > djfireb...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are 
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> longer
>> >> >> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
>> >> >> players.
>> >> >> \what's the problem?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Linux Dedicated server
>> >> >> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>> >> >> sv_steamgroup set to my number
>> >> >> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>> >> >> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>> >> >> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>> >> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Ronny Schedel]

The search key has never been password like. It was introduced to play on 
your own hosted servers. L4D servers are public in general. There was a need 
to have free private servers, then the steam exclusive variable was 
introduced and bound to a Steam community group, so you were able to setup a 
private Steam community group to only allow the members to use the server. I 
don't know who started first to spread this wrong information about the 
search key, it is not a password, you can trust me.


> With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. With the
> search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
> instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your servers, 
> but
> that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked to.
>
> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>
>>
>> Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what 
>> the
>> name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and the
>> servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the 
>> lobby
>> leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers 
>> remains
>> still public and open to everyone.
>>
>>
>> > If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they
>> know
>> > the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply
>> > having
>> > the search key enabled on them
>> >
>> > 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>> > https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a
>> >> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a
>> >> server
>> >> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does
>> >> not
>> >> seem to work now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > There have been a few people saying that its not working since the
>> last
>> >> > update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and
>> >> > only
>> >> > your private lobbys can access the server.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>> >> > djfireb...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are 
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> longer
>> >> >> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
>> >> >> players.
>> >> >> \what's the problem?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Linux Dedicated server
>> >> >> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>> >> >> sv_steamgroup set to my number
>> >> >> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>> >> >> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>> >> >> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nikita
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Brent Veal]

With the search key on, our servers are only used by our members. With the
search key off, the server will fill with a public lobby pretty much
instantly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work that way for your servers, but
that's how it works for us and most other server admins I've talked to.

2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 

>
> Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what the
> name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and the
> servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the lobby
> leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers remains
> still public and open to everyone.
>
>
> > If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they
> know
> > the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply
> > having
> > the search key enabled on them
> >
> > 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
> > https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=i...@ronny-schedel.de>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a
> >> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a
> >> server
> >> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does
> >> not
> >> seem to work now.
> >>
> >>
> >> > There have been a few people saying that its not working since the
> last
> >> > update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and
> >> > only
> >> > your private lobbys can access the server.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
> >> > djfireb...@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are no
> >> >> longer
> >> >> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
> >> >> players.
> >> >> \what's the problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> - Linux Dedicated server
> >> >> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
> >> >> sv_steamgroup set to my number
> >> >> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
> >> >> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
> >> >> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
> >> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Ronny Schedel]

Everyone can access the servers with a search key set. It is only what the 
name says, a search key. We run 10 server with a search key set, and the 
servers are used from public players also. The search key offers the lobby 
leader to only search servers with this search key set, the servers remains 
still public and open to everyone.


> If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they know
> the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply 
> having
> the search key enabled on them
>
> 2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 
>
>>
>> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a
>> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a 
>> server
>> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does 
>> not
>> seem to work now.
>>
>>
>> > There have been a few people saying that its not working since the last
>> > update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and 
>> > only
>> > your private lobbys can access the server.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
>> > djfireb...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are no
>> >> longer
>> >> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
>> >> players.
>> >> \what's the problem?
>> >>
>> >> - Linux Dedicated server
>> >> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>> >> sv_steamgroup set to my number
>> >> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>> >> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>> >> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>> >>
>> >> Nikita
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Brent Veal]

If you have a search key set, then a lobby can only access it if they know
the key. Our group has 5 servers that are kept private just by simply having
the search key enabled on them

2009/6/28 Ronny Schedel 

>
> The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a
> search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a server
> private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does not
> seem to work now.
>
>
> > There have been a few people saying that its not working since the last
> > update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and only
> > your private lobbys can access the server.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
> > djfireb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are no
> >> longer
> >> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
> >> players.
> >> \what's the problem?
> >>
> >> - Linux Dedicated server
> >> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
> >> sv_steamgroup set to my number
> >> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
> >> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
> >> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Ronny Schedel]

The search key has nothing to do with setting it private, it is just a 
search key for the lobby leader to find a suitable server. To make a server 
private there is only the variable sv_steamgroup_exclusive, which does not 
seem to work now.


> There have been a few people saying that its not working since the last
> update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and only
> your private lobbys can access the server.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
> djfireb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are no
>> longer
>> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
>> players.
>> \what's the problem?
>>
>> - Linux Dedicated server
>> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
>> sv_steamgroup set to my number
>> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
>> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Brent Veal]

There have been a few people saying that its not working since the last
update. You could always set a sv_search_key to keep it private and only
your private lobbys can access the server.


On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev] <
djfireb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are no
> longer
> working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public
> players.
> \what's the problem?
>
> - Linux Dedicated server
> - version 1.0.1.4 3881
> sv_steamgroup set to my number
> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
> sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
> sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"
>
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[hlds_linux] l4d steamgroup exclusive behavior after 6/25 update

[Никита Булаев [Nikita Bulaev]]

After updating my l4d servers my steamgroup exclusive settings are no longer
working. After restart my servers immediately filled up with public players.
\what's the problem?

- Linux Dedicated server
- version 1.0.1.4 3881
sv_steamgroup set to my number
sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
sv_allow_lobby_connect 0
sv_gametypes "coop,versus,survival"

Nikita
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