Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Eric (Deacon) wrote: >>Question : did you made your tries with VSM and then without VSM ? >>Or the other way round ? me thinks valve security module. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Could it be a possible problem from where the last update for hlds_l (not vac) was dl'ed from. If the servers in question were dl'ed from the same mirror, then they would be common in high cpu usage, while the others show no abnormalities. A shot in the dark, but something besides a bug seems to be at play. - Original Message - From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:56 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem > > > > Or there's a huge bug somewhere (the tried I made show me than only > > pingboost 3 was a CPU eater (doubler or nearly), whereas the only > > pingboost option that gave us a lower ping with FreeBSD). > > > > David. > > > Are you absolutely sure about this? I seam to remember that ping boost > has no effect on freebsd systems due to differences in it, and that > there were certain kernel tweaks that could be done in it's place to > sort of get the same effect, but even that was an area that people > weren't sure of. > > - m0gley > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Quoting m0gely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Or there's a huge bug somewhere (the tried I made show me than > > only pingboost 3 was a CPU eater (doubler or nearly), whereas the > > only pingboost option that gave us a lower ping with FreeBSD). > > > > David. > > > Are you absolutely sure about this? I seam to remember that ping > boost has no effect on freebsd systems due to differences in it, and > that there were certain kernel tweaks that could be done in it's > place to sort of get the same effect, but even that was an area that > people weren't sure of. I made the test once, for one hour. I did not see any use to pingboost 1 and pingboost 2. pingboost 3 seemed to give a result near external pingbooster : minus 5 to 10 ms on the ping and real higher (nearly doubled) CPU usage. Next try is HLBoost, the MetaMod plugin (for this week-end maybe). David. -- http://gamez.solexine.fr/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
> > Or there's a huge bug somewhere (the tried I made show me than only > pingboost 3 was a CPU eater (doubler or nearly), whereas the only > pingboost option that gave us a lower ping with FreeBSD). > > David. Are you absolutely sure about this? I seam to remember that ping boost has no effect on freebsd systems due to differences in it, and that there were certain kernel tweaks that could be done in it's place to sort of get the same effect, but even that was an area that people weren't sure of. - m0gley ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
The same problem exist when you launch the HL/CS servers in insecure mode. At least at our debian server, don't know about freebsd... The only way I find to defeat the high CPU usage is to turn of the pingbooster... /Oscar, www.bhood.nu Quoting David Touitou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > No I have not tried the beta... > > Does it fix the problem or have you even tried it? :) > > No I did not. > I won't have time before beginning of next week fortesting them either. > > But next week I'll re-install from scratch the four 16 slots servers, with > the beta hlds_l and without launching them in secure mode at all. > > David. > > -- > http://gamez.solexine.fr/ > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > /Mvh Oscar This mail was sent from www.bhood.nu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No I have not tried the beta... > Does it fix the problem or have you even tried it? :) No I did not. I won't have time before beginning of next week fortesting them either. But next week I'll re-install from scratch the four 16 slots servers, with the beta hlds_l and without launching them in secure mode at all. David. -- http://gamez.solexine.fr/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hmm, I discovered something... The pingboost option 1 and 2 seems to > double the CPU usage!?! > They have increased the CPU usage but never doubled it... > Is this the way it's suposed to be or is it some bug? I'm thinking > that it is running in pingboost mode 3 even while you type 1 or 2... Or there's a huge bug somewhere (the tried I made show me than only pingboost 3 was a CPU eater (doubler or nearly), whereas the only pingboost option that gave us a lower ping with FreeBSD). Question : did you made your tries with VSM and then without VSM ? Or the other way round ? Would it be possible that a "previously downloaded" Security Module, even when the server is launched with "-insecure", causes this CPU mess? David. -- http://gamez.solexine.fr/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
No I have not tried the beta... Does it fix the problem or have you even tried it? :) /Oscar, www.bhood.nu Quoting David Touitou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Someone said that he couldn't think of any other reason than VAC for > > the problem, but as I mentioned erlier there are no difference if the > > server is in secure mode or not. The CPU usage is the same... > > Same results here for the same test : it is not VSM. > > > The problem must be HL or CS itself, not anything else... But is this > > a bug or is it only HL or/and CS that have been more demanding? > > If it is a bug, it happens both on Debian (your kernel) and FreeBSD (linux > emulation is based on RedHat 7.1). > > Have you tried the beta server ? > > David. > > -- > http://gamez.solexine.fr/ > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > /Mvh Oscar This mail was sent from www.bhood.nu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Hmm, I discovered something... The pingboost option 1 and 2 seems to double the CPU usage!?! They have increased the CPU usage but never doubled it... Is this the way it's suposed to be or is it some bug? I'm thinking that it is running in pingboost mode 3 even while you type 1 or 2... /Oscar, www.bhood.nu Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Someone said that he couldn't think of any other reason than VAC for the > problem, but as I mentioned erlier there are no difference if the server is > in secure mode or not. The CPU usage is the same... > > The problem must be HL or CS itself, not anything else... But is this a bug > or is it only HL or/and CS that have been more demanding? > > /Oscar, www.bhood.nu > > Quoting David Touitou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Some of this info has allready been told in another thread but I'll > > > type it again since this topic fits better... > > > > Answering in this topic too, then. > > > > > Lately the CPU usage has been pretty high on our server. We've always > > > had extra stuff like adminmod, pingbooster, statsme etc... 2 days ago > > > when it was unplayable because of the high CPU usage I decided to > > > reinstall CS/HL. > > > > Tried that too. > > Unsuccessfully. > > > > > My question goes out to all of you who runs CS servers on PIII ONLY. > > > What kind of CPU usage do you have on your server? Please let me know > > > what speed you are running your CPU(s) in, and how many players there > > > are online when you check your usage. The servers we have are two 18 > > > player both full when I checked the CPU usage... > > > > Bi-P3 1.2GHz Tualatin with four 16 slots servers (each running > > PingBooster, MM, StatsMe, AM, ChickenMod and LogMod). > > > > There's a MRTG graph of CPU usage here : > > http://gamez.solexine.fr/images/mrtg/godzilla_cpu-week.png > > All days except wednesday were with VSM, wednesday was without. > > > > There's a more detailled (daily CPU and RAM graphs) page here : > > http://gamez.solexine.fr/article/articlestatic/34/1/3/ > > > > > I can't really tell when the problem has started, the CPU usage has > > > increased with every update and with every new addon we've installed. > > > But I do know that we once had two 18player servers running with lots > > > of extra stuff on our dual celeron 433@540mhz without any problem at > > > all. But that was over 1 year ago :P > > > > Same issue here : I started the "rent a server" business with CS 1.3 > > and was quite happy with the low CPU requiered. > > > > I was planning to put (at least) ten 12 slots servers on a bi-P3 1.2GHz > > and I was confident in that with the first tries I did. But with CS > > 1.5, this sounds totally crazy nowadays... > > > > I feel a bit angry at Valve about this CPU raising issues... > > > > David > > > > -- > > http://gamez.solexine.fr/ > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > /Mvh Oscar > > > This mail was sent from www.bhood.nu > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > /Mvh Oscar This mail was sent from www.bhood.nu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Someone said that he couldn't think of any other reason than VAC for > the problem, but as I mentioned erlier there are no difference if the > server is in secure mode or not. The CPU usage is the same... Same results here for the same test : it is not VSM. > The problem must be HL or CS itself, not anything else... But is this > a bug or is it only HL or/and CS that have been more demanding? If it is a bug, it happens both on Debian (your kernel) and FreeBSD (linux emulation is based on RedHat 7.1). Have you tried the beta server ? David. -- http://gamez.solexine.fr/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Someone said that he couldn't think of any other reason than VAC for the problem, but as I mentioned erlier there are no difference if the server is in secure mode or not. The CPU usage is the same... The problem must be HL or CS itself, not anything else... But is this a bug or is it only HL or/and CS that have been more demanding? /Oscar, www.bhood.nu Quoting David Touitou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Some of this info has allready been told in another thread but I'll > > type it again since this topic fits better... > > Answering in this topic too, then. > > > Lately the CPU usage has been pretty high on our server. We've always > > had extra stuff like adminmod, pingbooster, statsme etc... 2 days ago > > when it was unplayable because of the high CPU usage I decided to > > reinstall CS/HL. > > Tried that too. > Unsuccessfully. > > > My question goes out to all of you who runs CS servers on PIII ONLY. > > What kind of CPU usage do you have on your server? Please let me know > > what speed you are running your CPU(s) in, and how many players there > > are online when you check your usage. The servers we have are two 18 > > player both full when I checked the CPU usage... > > Bi-P3 1.2GHz Tualatin with four 16 slots servers (each running > PingBooster, MM, StatsMe, AM, ChickenMod and LogMod). > > There's a MRTG graph of CPU usage here : > http://gamez.solexine.fr/images/mrtg/godzilla_cpu-week.png > All days except wednesday were with VSM, wednesday was without. > > There's a more detailled (daily CPU and RAM graphs) page here : > http://gamez.solexine.fr/article/articlestatic/34/1/3/ > > > I can't really tell when the problem has started, the CPU usage has > > increased with every update and with every new addon we've installed. > > But I do know that we once had two 18player servers running with lots > > of extra stuff on our dual celeron 433@540mhz without any problem at > > all. But that was over 1 year ago :P > > Same issue here : I started the "rent a server" business with CS 1.3 > and was quite happy with the low CPU requiered. > > I was planning to put (at least) ten 12 slots servers on a bi-P3 1.2GHz > and I was confident in that with the first tries I did. But with CS > 1.5, this sounds totally crazy nowadays... > > I feel a bit angry at Valve about this CPU raising issues... > > David > > -- > http://gamez.solexine.fr/ > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > /Mvh Oscar This mail was sent from www.bhood.nu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage problem
Ive noticed the same thing. My servers are hogging the system. The only thing i can think of is VAC. My system is running on FreeBSD with dual PIII 500. A couple days ago I was able to run them flawlessly on that HW. but today its impossible. Even on the matchserver where we only run VAC, without any cpu hogging plugins. the only plugin is wwcl, which runs once at logon. It seems to be able to run ok up to 10 players. /Bjorn The thing is... It's not that I am lazy, it's that I just don't care. On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Oscar wrote: > Some of this info has allready been told in another thread but I'll type it > again since this topic fits better... > > Lately the CPU usage has been pretty high on our server. We've always had extra > stuff like adminmod, pingbooster, statsme etc... 2 days ago when it was > unplayable because of the high CPU usage I decided to reinstall CS/HL. > My hope was that the CPU usage was to be pretty low without any extra stuff > (not even the built in pingbooster), but here are the result: > > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > 11076 cstrike 13 0 93652 91M 3496 R46.2 18.2 231:47 hlds > 12723 cstrike2 16 0 74968 73M 3464 R94.3 14.5 134:45 hlds > > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > 11076 cstrike 16 0 93652 91M 3496 R92.4 18.2 233:03 hlds > 12723 cstrike2 14 0 74968 73M 3464 R56.5 14.5 135:47 hlds > > This is 2 "screenshots" of the command "top" when the each of the CS servers > peek in CPU usage... > Now the info above wont say anything if I don't tell you about our server > hardware. We updated our dual celeron 433@540mhz about 1 year ago to a dual > pIII 866@936mhz. RAM is 512mb so that is not an issue. Adaptec scsi controller > (AIC7xxx driver) with some old 2GB conner disc(20mb/sec). Debian with 2.4.18 > kernel. > > My question goes out to all of you who runs CS servers on PIII ONLY. What kind > of CPU usage do you have on your server? Please let me know what speed you are > running your CPU(s) in, and how many players there are online when you check > your usage. The servers we have are two 18 player both full when I checked the > CPU usage... > > I can't really tell when the problem has started, the CPU usage has increased > with every update and with every new addon we've installed. But I do know that > we once had two 18player servers running with lots of extra stuff on our dual > celeron 433@540mhz without any problem at all. But that was over 1 year ago :P > > /Mvh Oscar, www.bhood.nu > > > This mail was sent from www.bhood.nu > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
