Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[]T[weety.Pulp]

Please be aware that it is a setinnfo-infoline that is "detected", this
infoline can be set by an abusive admin using a client-execute command.
This means if I am a nasty guy I can set it in _your_ config while you
play on my server and you won't even notice - after that you will be
detected and banned as a "cheater".
Not sure how you can consider that to be "proof" - it isn't.
Pulp

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[W0kk3L]

That could be your ban policy. But it surely isn't ours :) We demand proof
of all cheaters banned. That's why i outputted it to IRC, so active admins
could check out the supposed cheater and record a demo. With a little luck
even submit it to SteamBans.

-W0kk3L-


But they cheated, their own fault if they are not able to play fair.
Should get a ban, also afterwards!


- Original Message -
From: "Martin Zwickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



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On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:29:30 +0200
"W0kk3L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bubbled:


You mean CS, instead of CSS.

I'm already using this for a while on our servers. The script checks
the settings set by the players config. If the player is using or has
used one of those cheats, it adds a setinfo line to his/her config.
This setinfo gets executed when starting CS, and fills that
infofield. The script scans those infofields.

Remember, also persons who HAD the cheat and removed it (and forgot to
remove the setinfo from their config) will get banned now! I disabled
that amx_ban line and outputted the info to our irc bot. After a
while i turned it off again. The bot kept spamming (we run 15 CS
servers, and got about 30 to 40 messages in an hour). It also spams
again after mapchanges or reconnects. We did caught a lot of players
actually cheating, but also got send out to players who didn't cheat.

The script works, but also detects a lot of players who don't cheat.
So be aware that this script, as it is stated below, also bans
players that DON'T cheat (anymore).



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Martin Zwickel]

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On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:29:30 +0200
"W0kk3L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bubbled:

> You mean CS, instead of CSS.
>
> I'm already using this for a while on our servers. The script checks
> the settings set by the players config. If the player is using or has
> used one of those cheats, it adds a setinfo line to his/her config.
> This setinfo gets executed when starting CS, and fills that
> infofield. The script scans those infofields.
>
> Remember, also persons who HAD the cheat and removed it (and forgot to
> remove the setinfo from their config) will get banned now! I disabled
> that amx_ban line and outputted the info to our irc bot. After a
> while i turned it off again. The bot kept spamming (we run 15 CS
> servers, and got about 30 to 40 messages in an hour). It also spams
> again after mapchanges or reconnects. We did caught a lot of players
> actually cheating, but also got send out to players who didn't cheat.
>
> The script works, but also detects a lot of players who don't cheat.
> So be aware that this script, as it is stated below, also bans
> players that DON'T cheat (anymore).

But they cheated, their own fault if they are not able to play fair.
Should get a ban, also afterwards!

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[W0kk3L]

You mean CS, instead of CSS.

I'm already using this for a while on our servers. The script checks the
settings set by the players config. If the player is using or has used one
of those cheats, it adds a setinfo line to his/her config. This setinfo gets
executed when starting CS, and fills that infofield. The script scans those
infofields.

Remember, also persons who HAD the cheat and removed it (and forgot to
remove the setinfo from their config) will get banned now! I disabled that
amx_ban line and outputted the info to our irc bot. After a while i turned
it off again. The bot kept spamming (we run 15 CS servers, and got about 30
to 40 messages in an hour). It also spams again after mapchanges or
reconnects. We did caught a lot of players actually cheating, but also got
send out to players who didn't cheat.

The script works, but also detects a lot of players who don't cheat. So be
aware that this script, as it is stated below, also bans players that DON'T
cheat (anymore).

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Forsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



There's another ecstatic cheat derivative one of my admins has found in
the wild. Here's a signature example:

bottomcolor\6\cl_dlmax\128\cl_lc\1\cl_lw\1\
cl_updaterate\20\topcolor\30\
AlphaCheat\Hack_User\*fid\5078404\
*fname\ipsy\EcstaticCheat\Hack_User\rate\7500\
name\Ipsy 007\model\gsg9

Here's a modified version of the amxx script I posted before which
catches the new one:


#include 
#include 

public plugin_init(){
 register_plugin("Ecstatic Check","2.1","Anthrax")
}
public client_putinserver(id){
 new infoField[32]
 new infoField2[32]
 new infoField3[32]
 new infoField4[32]

 get_user_info(id,"EcstaticCheat",infoField,32)
 get_user_info(id,"TeKilla",infoField2,32)
 get_user_info(id,"MicCheat",infoField3,32)
 get_user_info(id,"AlphaCheat",infoField4,32)


if((equal(infoField,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField2,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField3,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField4,"Hack_User"))){
   new name[32]
   new auth[32]

   get_user_name(id,name,31)
   get_user_authid(id,auth,31)

   if (equal(infoField,"Hack_User")){
 server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Ecstatic Cheat")
 log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Ecstatic Cheat",name,auth)
   }
   if (equal(infoField2,"Hack_User")) {
 server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"TeKilla Cheat")
 log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for TeKilla Cheat",name,auth)
   }
   if (equal(infoField3,"Hack_User")) {
 server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Mic Cheat")
 log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Mic Cheat",name,auth)
   }
   if (equal(infoField4,"Hack_User")) {
 server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Alpha Cheat")
 log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Alpha Cheat",name,auth)
   }
   server_exec()
 }
}



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Andrew Forsberg]

There's another ecstatic cheat derivative one of my admins has found in
the wild. Here's a signature example:

bottomcolor\6\cl_dlmax\128\cl_lc\1\cl_lw\1\
cl_updaterate\20\topcolor\30\
AlphaCheat\Hack_User\*fid\5078404\
*fname\ipsy\EcstaticCheat\Hack_User\rate\7500\
name\Ipsy 007\model\gsg9

Here's a modified version of the amxx script I posted before which
catches the new one:


#include 
#include 

public plugin_init(){
  register_plugin("Ecstatic Check","2.1","Anthrax")
}
public client_putinserver(id){
  new infoField[32]
  new infoField2[32]
  new infoField3[32]
  new infoField4[32]

  get_user_info(id,"EcstaticCheat",infoField,32)
  get_user_info(id,"TeKilla",infoField2,32)
  get_user_info(id,"MicCheat",infoField3,32)
  get_user_info(id,"AlphaCheat",infoField4,32)


if((equal(infoField,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField2,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField3,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField4,"Hack_User"))){
new name[32]
new auth[32]

get_user_name(id,name,31)
get_user_authid(id,auth,31)

if (equal(infoField,"Hack_User")){
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Ecstatic Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Ecstatic Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField2,"Hack_User")) {
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"TeKilla Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for TeKilla Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField3,"Hack_User")) {
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Mic Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Mic Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField4,"Hack_User")) {
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Alpha Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Alpha Cheat",name,auth)
}
server_exec()
  }
}



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

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ics schrieb:

How about fixing the srcds renice cpu 100% usage problem or the high cpu
usage itself on srcds which countless of users have mentioned on this
list?
So far we have had 0 official replys on these matters and they are not
even listed on the known issues list.


-ICS



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Wher can i find the "known issues list". Any links?

ty in advance!

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Steven Hartland]

ics wrote:

How about fixing the srcds renice cpu 100% usage problem or the high
cpu usage itself on srcds which countless of users have mentioned on
this list?
So far we have had 0 official replys on these matters and they are not
even listed on the known issues list.


How about you use a slightly relavent subject?

   Steve



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[ics]

How about fixing the srcds renice cpu 100% usage problem or the high cpu
usage itself on srcds which countless of users have mentioned on this list?
So far we have had 0 official replys on these matters and they are not
even listed on the known issues list.


-ICS



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Telepath]

Hi,
kama schrieb:


VAC is, afaik, also a client/server program. Its just integrated.
Punkbuster could easily take VACs place and be integrated in the hlX
engine.

No, AC like PB should be additional to VAC.



Serverside only anticheat will never really work.

ACK.


If EVERYONE went with a punkbuster style prog, it would be ok I guess,
but I have to think that if the prog depends on the clients
co-operation, that hackers could still find a way to disguise the hacks
from the punkbuster search.

U always may find a hacker...dont worry...there are 1 per million
able to "hack", all others are script-kiddies...not worth think about...


As it is now, the only real way to catch cheater is by observing them.

ACK.

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and you never come back to the Tageslicht!

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Andrew Forsberg]

On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 09:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Very nice plugin, I have some ideas here:
>
> - removing cheat names from the plugin
> - adding a cheats.txt, where admins can add "new" cheats that are "scanable"
> - admin should decide what to do with a hacker found by the plugin ***
>
> *** = internal admin message would be very useful for admins, are just 
> logfiles, maybe some admins would like to record a demo for SteamBans ;)

Thank you!

What you're asking is more or less what quite a few of my own admins
have asked for. You're more than welcome to extend it to use a config
file, it wouldn't be a big task. I prefer it as is, since it can be
updated, recompiled, then copied or linked to each server's plugins
folder and it just works identically on each server as of the next map
change. Since it only takes a few seconds to recompile it, a config file
seems like more of a nuisance than an aid to me. The admin who built the
first version, Anthrax, seems quite keen on playing around with pawn
scripting for amxx at the moment, so if you like I could ask him to make
a config file version that looped through a comma separated list of
known cheat cvars in a cfg file.

What I'm more than a bit interested in is that at least two of these
cheats are meant to have a "detect other players' cheats" feature. I
wonder if these user cvars are there to let cheating players identify
each other? Who knows. I can't think of any other good reason for them
being there, unless it's a VAC2 side project. :-)

I'm not sure from your first point if you are wanting to remove the
cheat names from the ban reason or not. That's trivial -- just change
the reason at the end of the amx_ban line to something different. I've
left it in (against the advice of my admins) for statistical purposes,
and to hopefully warn any players away from using these cheat systems on
our servers.

If all you want to do is log users with any of those cheats then delete
the three server_cmd() lines, delete the server_exec() line, and change
the log_amx() bit to say "Player %s %s was detected using " rather than
"was Banned for ". e.g.:


if((equal(infoField,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField2,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField3,"Hack_User"))){
new name[32]
new auth[32]

get_user_name(id,name,31)
get_user_authid(id,auth,31)

if (equal(infoField,"Hack_User")){
  log_amx("Player %s %s uses Ecstatic Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField2,"Hack_User")) {
  log_amx("Player %s %s uses TeKilla Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField3,"Hack_User")) {
  log_amx("Player %s %s uses Mic Cheat",name,auth)
}
  }






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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[sirtom__]

Very nice plugin, I have some ideas here:

- removing cheat names from the plugin
- adding a cheats.txt, where admins can add "new" cheats that are "scanable"
- admin should decide what to do with a hacker found by the plugin ***

*** = internal admin message would be very useful for admins, are just 
logfiles, maybe some admins would like to record a demo for SteamBans ;)


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Gesendet: 21.05.06 23:31:04
> An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


> On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 13:57 +1200, Andrew Forsberg wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > I've changed my mind about publishing the source code on the hlds_linux
> > list -- but will email it to anyone who is interested.
>
> And changed it again after a few offlist emails. Here it is, fwiw. You
> may want to change the log messages to something else more obscure if
> your ban list is public. I doubt these cheats will be popular long
> enough for that to be an issue, and preferred my punters knew they'd be
> banned in advance.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> /* Ecstatic Cheat Hack Detector written by Anthrax, 2006
>Plugin distributed without warranties or guarantee.
>
>Plugin developed to detect client cvars in hl1 mods
>set by certain types of cheat for cs 1.6 and czero.
>It may work with other mods.
>
>**Additions to plugin made by Anders**
># Added support for AMXBANS
># Fixed bans to take place almost immediately
># Added support for 2 more known detectable hacks.
> */
> #include 
> #include 
>
>
> public plugin_init(){
>   register_plugin("Ecstatic Check","2.0","Anthrax")
> }
> public client_putinserver(id){
>   new infoField[32]
>   new infoField2[32]
>   new infoField3[32]
>
>   get_user_info(id,"EcstaticCheat",infoField,32)
>   get_user_info(id,"TeKilla",infoField2,32)
>   get_user_info(id,"MicCheat",infoField3,32)
>
>
> if((equal(infoField,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField2,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField3,"Hack_User"))){
> new name[32]
> new auth[32]
>
> get_user_name(id,name,31)
> get_user_authid(id,auth,31)
>
> if (equal(infoField,"Hack_User")){
>   server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Ecstatic Cheat")
>   log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Ecstatic Cheat",name,auth)
> }
> if (equal(infoField2,"Hack_User")) {
>   server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"TeKilla Cheat")
>   log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for TeKilla Cheat",name,auth)
> }
> if (equal(infoField3,"Hack_User")) {
>   server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Mic Cheat")
>   log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Mic Cheat",name,auth)
> }
> server_exec()
>   }
> }
>
>
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Andrew Forsberg]

On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 13:57 +1200, Andrew Forsberg wrote:
[...]
>
> I've changed my mind about publishing the source code on the hlds_linux
> list -- but will email it to anyone who is interested.

And changed it again after a few offlist emails. Here it is, fwiw. You
may want to change the log messages to something else more obscure if
your ban list is public. I doubt these cheats will be popular long
enough for that to be an issue, and preferred my punters knew they'd be
banned in advance.

Cheers


/* Ecstatic Cheat Hack Detector written by Anthrax, 2006
   Plugin distributed without warranties or guarantee.

   Plugin developed to detect client cvars in hl1 mods
   set by certain types of cheat for cs 1.6 and czero.
   It may work with other mods.

   **Additions to plugin made by Anders**
   # Added support for AMXBANS
   # Fixed bans to take place almost immediately
   # Added support for 2 more known detectable hacks.
*/
#include 
#include 


public plugin_init(){
  register_plugin("Ecstatic Check","2.0","Anthrax")
}
public client_putinserver(id){
  new infoField[32]
  new infoField2[32]
  new infoField3[32]

  get_user_info(id,"EcstaticCheat",infoField,32)
  get_user_info(id,"TeKilla",infoField2,32)
  get_user_info(id,"MicCheat",infoField3,32)


if((equal(infoField,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField2,"Hack_User"))||(equal(infoField3,"Hack_User"))){
new name[32]
new auth[32]

get_user_name(id,name,31)
get_user_authid(id,auth,31)

if (equal(infoField,"Hack_User")){
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Ecstatic Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Ecstatic Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField2,"Hack_User")) {
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"TeKilla Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for TeKilla Cheat",name,auth)
}
if (equal(infoField3,"Hack_User")) {
  server_cmd("amx_ban %d %s %s",0,auth,"Mic Cheat")
  log_amx("Player %s %s was Banned for Mic Cheat",name,auth)
}
server_exec()
  }
}




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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[sirtom__]

And, at least - we're not discussing 3rd party tools. We're talking about 
"Valves AntiCheat" -> VAC...


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> Gesendet: 21.05.06 09:06:43
> An: 
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


> This looks like a cheap rip-off of the SteamBans (www.steambans.com) idea.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Xeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Check  www.sharedbans.com  they are doing a good job banning cheaters.
> > --
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Greetings

The problem is, that you won't recognize a "good" cheater. You can just
suspect, cause of the Stats.
The newest Generation of Aimbots have tweaks and Features, that will
make the aimbot look like real aiming.
Theres even one Feature that will disable all Hacks automaticly, when
someone goes Spectator..

I got some of those as Regular Player on my Server myself. I'm sure
theyre cheaters, but I can't proof it yet.
And I won't ban them, as there might be a SMALL chance, that theyre just
good. Even when its unrealistic.

For such things, we need working Anti-Cheat Programs. The problem are
not the obvious cheaters, but that cheaters, that know to use & hide
their hacks.
Unfurtunaly there ain't any. Vac never was, still isnt (26+ proof vac2
hacks & one update each year..) and also won't ever detect non-public
hacks, you can buy for 50 - 200 Euro,
from various coders. And Cheating-Death died long Time before.

Valve should just hire the Punkbuster Team, theyre doing a great Job.
That Program also bans by hardware ID, so the cheater can't just buy a
new CDKey
and keep playing, but need to buy a whole new Mainboard..

But as we know valve, only money is important to them, and theyll keep
letting their incompetent apprentice program&update Vac2, just so it
looks like they would do something
against the cheaters..

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[kama]

On Sat, 20 May 2006, aprand wrote:

> W0kk3L, good at least you have a system that doesnt ban on a whim, and
> punkbuster, good idea, but requires client side install, and not everyone
> will agree to that, but still a good product.

VAC is, afaik, also a client/server program. Its just integrated.
Punkbuster could easily take VACs place and be integrated in the hlX
engine.

> What I actually mean is a server-side program that GSPs can purchase
> that will include updates once you subscribe.

Serverside only anticheat will never really work. At least not until there
is a rewrite of the engine with anticheat in mind at the first row of
code. Even then, it will not be fool proof.

> If EVERYONE went with a punkbuster style prog, it would be ok I guess,
> but I have to think that if the prog depends on the clients
> co-operation, that hackers could still find a way to disguise the hacks
> from the punkbuster search.

Depend on the amount of integration to the engine. But even then, the
programmers will find a way to hack it. Nothing is fool proof.

Whats really are needed is an active and updated anticheat. I dont care if
its called PB, VAC or SUPERDUPERAC. Just give me something that works.

As it is now, the only real way to catch cheater is by observing them.
They might ruin the game on the server for a couple of rounds (if it is a
"good" cheater). But he will eventually get caught.

Most of the cheaters are those punks that doesnt care if they get caught
and have every possible extra help enabled. Those are the mayority of
cheaters and are easy to spot. They are the ones that really ruin the
game. The "good" cheaters with home brewed cheats just seems extremely
good and are not that easy to spot.

/Bjorn

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[W0kk3L]

This looks like a cheap rip-off of the SteamBans (www.steambans.com) idea.

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Andrew Forsberg]

On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 05:55 +0200, Telepath wrote:
> Andrew Forsberg schrieb:
> > only problem is that if they're installed at a net cafe, then
> > removed, the cvars stick around on the shared machine.
>
> Then u have wrong admin on ur netcafe.

Sorry for replying off list this morning. I was having a hard time with
a weird webmail program via a handheld device... Groan.

Short version: I don't own a netcafe. I was meaning the crappy netcafes
that don't use drive mirroring (or better) systems to keep the machines
clean.

>
> > It automatically perm bans people, and logs their offense, if
> > they have those cvars.
>
> U misunderstand.
> Banning ppl by cvar outdated.

Please elaborate. These cheats are still in use, and still identifiable
by the cvars. The cvars hang around even if the cheat isn't currently in
use, but there's no reason for them to be on an account unless they have
been using the cheats at some stage. Quite frankly, that's good enough
for me. They may have removed the other cheat due to a hack upgrade, or
change of cheat program. I don't care. :-)

I've changed my mind about publishing the source code on the hlds_linux
list -- but will email it to anyone who is interested. Mail me offlist.
I know it's not that hard to find info on the cheats with google, but,
still... fewer references to it the better for those of us who are
trying to get rid of its users.

btw: these are cs 1.6 cheats, not cs source cheats. i'm not quite sure
how come we're discussing them in this thread.

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[aprand]

W0kk3L, good at least you have a system that doesnt ban on a whim, and
punkbuster, good idea, but requires client side install, and not everyone
will agree to that, but still a good product. What I actually mean is a
server-side program that GSPs can purchase that will include updates once
you subscribe. If EVERYONE went with a punkbuster style prog, it would be ok
I guess, but I have to think that if the prog depends on the clients
co-operation, that hackers could still find a way to disguise the hacks from
the punkbuster search. Not sure of the actual details, but even if you kept
the hacks on a removable drive and then executed them after you joined the
server? I might be completely off about that, but it sure seems like it
wouldnt be too hard to modify the client side of the prog if you were good
enough to evade other anticheat programs.
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:47 AM
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aprand wrote:

And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused
all the
time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven
forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some
company
that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write
them,
and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus
from
Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get
free
updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE
software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and
defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be
easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of
those
that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure
there
would be enough response to generate income.
- Original Message -
From: "Rick R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



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Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until
you
prove yourself innocent"

-Rick R.

On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to
check
demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it
does
help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers).

Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP
(http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for
AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead
mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i
had
never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through
walls,
and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for
SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the
tools they use for checking, like x-spectate).

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


>
> Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in
demos.
>
> HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
> overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.
>
> So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
> welcome by servers admins.
>
> Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do
this?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

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aprand wrote:
> And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused
> all the
> time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven
> forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some
> company
> that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write
> them,
> and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus
> from
> Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get
> free
> updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE
> software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and
> defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be
> easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of
> those
> that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure
> there
> would be enough response to generate income.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
>
>
>> --
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>> How to get rid of cheaters?
>> Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until
>> you
>> prove yourself innocent"
>>
>> -Rick R.
>>
>> On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to
>>> check
>>> demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it
>>> does
>>> help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers).
>>>
>>> Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP
>>> (http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for
>>> AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead
>>> mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i
>>> had
>>> never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through
>>> walls,
>>> and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for
>>> SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the
>>> tools they use for checking, like x-spectate).
>>>
>>> -W0kk3L-
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in
>>> demos.
>>> >
>>> > HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
>>> > overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.
>>> >
>>> > So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
>>> > welcome by servers admins.
>>> >
>>> > Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do
>>> this?
>>> >
>>> > Just my 2 cents.
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[W0kk3L]

We ask everybody to deliver proof before someone gets banned. So either a
demo from a gamer which blatantly proofs he/she is cheating. The demo gets
uploaded on our site. Everybody can view those demos, including the cheater.
If he finds that the demo is inconclusive (which isn't the case in most of
the time) he can request an unban. Another admin takes a look at it. This
prevents wrongfully accusing someone. Ofcourse someone can make a mistake
and ban someone who didn't cheat, but the cheater can protest against it,
and he gets unbanned.

All based on the SteamBans plugin (with custom check code).

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "aprand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused all
the
time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven
forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some
company
that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write
them,
and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus
from
Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get
free
updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE
software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and
defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be
easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of those
that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure
there
would be enough response to generate income.
- Original Message -
From: "Rick R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



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How to get rid of cheaters?
Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until
you
prove yourself innocent"

-Rick R.

On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to
check
demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it
does
help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers).

Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP
(http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for
AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead
mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i
had
never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through
walls,
and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for
SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the
tools they use for checking, like x-spectate).

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


>
> Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in
demos.
>
> HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
> overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.
>
> So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
> welcome by servers admins.
>
> Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Telepath]

Andrew Forsberg schrieb:

only problem is that if they're installed at a net cafe, then
removed, the cvars stick around on the shared machine.


Then u have wrong admin on ur netcafe.


If you can live
with that, then you're welcome to a wee amxx plugin one of my admins
wrote.


Let's have talk about. PP coding such are very welcome 2 discuss..


It automatically perm bans people, and logs their offense, if
they have those cvars.


U misunderstand.
Banning ppl by cvar outdated.

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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[aprand]

And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused all the
time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven
forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some company
that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write them,
and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus from
Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get free
updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE
software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and
defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be
easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of those
that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure there
would be enough response to generate income.
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To: 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



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How to get rid of cheaters?
Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until
you
prove yourself innocent"

-Rick R.

On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to
check
demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it
does
help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers).

Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP
(http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for
AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead
mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i
had
never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through walls,
and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for
SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the
tools they use for checking, like x-spectate).

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


>
> Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in
demos.
>
> HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
> overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.
>
> So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
> welcome by servers admins.
>
> Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Greetings

Would be nice if you could upload, or send us this Plugin.

cheers
SecurityFox

Andrew Forsberg schrieb:


On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 20:41 +0100, Knuts wrote:



It would appear three cheats can be detected in a players cvars as reported
by rcon user or from a demo by using demofreak.

TeKilla Hack_User
EcstaticCheat Hack_User
MicCheat Hack_User

Handy to know chaps.




Yea -- only problem is that if they're installed at a net cafe, then
removed, the cvars stick around on the shared machine. If you can live
with that, then you're welcome to a wee amxx plugin one of my admins
wrote. It automatically perm bans people, and logs their offense, if
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Rick R.]

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How to get rid of cheaters?
Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until you
prove yourself innocent"

-Rick R.

On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to check
> demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it does
> help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers).
>
> Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP
> (http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for
> AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead
> mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i had
> never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through walls,
> and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for
> SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the
> tools they use for checking, like x-spectate).
>
> -W0kk3L-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
>
>
> >
> > Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in
> demos.
> >
> > HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
> > overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.
> >
> > So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
> > welcome by servers admins.
> >
> > Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this?
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[W0kk3L]

Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to check
demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it does
help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers).

Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP
(http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for
AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead
mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i had
never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through walls,
and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for
SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the
tools they use for checking, like x-spectate).

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats




Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in demos.

HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.

So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
welcome by servers admins.

Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this?

Just my 2 cents.



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[muldy]

Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in demos.

HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the
overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or  2.

So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very
welcome by servers admins.

Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this?

Just my 2 cents.



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Greetings

You are absolutely right. 100% agreed.

cheers
SecurityFox

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


I know multiple websites with more than a handful of very good cs/css/etc. 
hacks.
My clan tried to re-integrate sreenshotclient on our servers a while ago, 
therefore
I searched for alot of hacks to integrate them into the detection list of 
SSc-server.
(yes, we catched players with new cheats with the proccess scan!)

Valve does (nearly?) nothing against cheats, so why don't spread word of these 
websites ;)
Valve is more interested in creating licenses for steam game-based tournaments.

What I know from PB is, that a hack you send in will be detected only days 
later...

Spread word of a game losing his pulse of life.





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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[InspectorG]

Im so much more into BF2 now because of the cheat problems in valve
games

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


I know multiple websites with more than a handful of very good cs/css/etc.
hacks.
My clan tried to re-integrate sreenshotclient on our servers a while ago,
therefore
I searched for alot of hacks to integrate them into the detection list of
SSc-server.
(yes, we catched players with new cheats with the proccess scan!)

Valve does (nearly?) nothing against cheats, so why don't spread word of
these websites ;)
Valve is more interested in creating licenses for steam game-based
tournaments.

What I know from PB is, that a hack you send in will be detected only days
later...

Spread word of a game losing his pulse of life.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Gesendet: 18.05.06 08:49:17
An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats




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the problem is that that page is mighty old and i don't get why valve /
steam hasn't added those cheats to VAC.
--
//Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu


x-ares-x wrote:
> Yes, Sorry, I wanted to send it private to him, but used the wrong
> Address :-/, but when everybody uses the cheats, Valve have to work
> faster,.
> maybe ^^
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Ehm, you're giving out a site which contains all sorts of cheats. Think
> that
> is wise to do? I won't abuse them, but (maybe) some others on this list
> will
> do. (i learned from my mistake last time, posting a bug here ;)). Next
> time,
> just send Alfred a private message instead of posting this site in the
> mailinglist. :)
>
> -W0kk3L-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "x-ares-x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Alfred Reynolds" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:43 PM
> Subject: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
>
>
>
>> Hey Alfred,
>>
>> I don't know if you know this site:
>>
>> http://cheatnetwork.free.fr/cheatdb/index2.php?action=&game_id=27
>>
>> I was searching for a way to see the Opponent Models in a Demo,
>> because I wanted to know if you opponent had a wall hack...
>>
>> I found this Page with google. For Demo's it's ok and necessary but
>> it's
>> working on
>> my Warserver ingame, too.
>>
>> Maybe it helps you for VAC.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[sirtom__]

I know multiple websites with more than a handful of very good cs/css/etc. 
hacks.
My clan tried to re-integrate sreenshotclient on our servers a while ago, 
therefore
I searched for alot of hacks to integrate them into the detection list of 
SSc-server.
(yes, we catched players with new cheats with the proccess scan!)

Valve does (nearly?) nothing against cheats, so why don't spread word of these 
websites ;)
Valve is more interested in creating licenses for steam game-based tournaments.

What I know from PB is, that a hack you send in will be detected only days 
later...

Spread word of a game losing his pulse of life.

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Gesendet: 18.05.06 08:49:17
> An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats


> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> the problem is that that page is mighty old and i don't get why valve /
> steam hasn't added those cheats to VAC.
> --
> //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu
>
>
> x-ares-x wrote:
> > Yes, Sorry, I wanted to send it private to him, but used the wrong
> > Address :-/, but when everybody uses the cheats, Valve have to work faster,.
> > maybe ^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > Ehm, you're giving out a site which contains all sorts of cheats. Think that
> > is wise to do? I won't abuse them, but (maybe) some others on this list will
> > do. (i learned from my mistake last time, posting a bug here ;)). Next time,
> > just send Alfred a private message instead of posting this site in the
> > mailinglist. :)
> >
> > -W0kk3L-
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "x-ares-x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Alfred Reynolds" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:43 PM
> > Subject: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hey Alfred,
> >>
> >> I don't know if you know this site:
> >>
> >> http://cheatnetwork.free.fr/cheatdb/index2.php?action=&game_id=27
> >>
> >> I was searching for a way to see the Opponent Models in a Demo,
> >> because I wanted to know if you opponent had a wall hack...
> >>
> >> I found this Page with google. For Demo's it's ok and necessary but it's
> >> working on
> >> my Warserver ingame, too.
> >>
> >> Maybe it helps you for VAC.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Rikard Bremark]

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the problem is that that page is mighty old and i don't get why valve /
steam hasn't added those cheats to VAC.
--
//Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu


x-ares-x wrote:
> Yes, Sorry, I wanted to send it private to him, but used the wrong
> Address :-/, but when everybody uses the cheats, Valve have to work faster,.
> maybe ^^
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Ehm, you're giving out a site which contains all sorts of cheats. Think that
> is wise to do? I won't abuse them, but (maybe) some others on this list will
> do. (i learned from my mistake last time, posting a bug here ;)). Next time,
> just send Alfred a private message instead of posting this site in the
> mailinglist. :)
>
> -W0kk3L-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "x-ares-x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Alfred Reynolds" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:43 PM
> Subject: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
>
>
>
>> Hey Alfred,
>>
>> I don't know if you know this site:
>>
>> http://cheatnetwork.free.fr/cheatdb/index2.php?action=&game_id=27
>>
>> I was searching for a way to see the Opponent Models in a Demo,
>> because I wanted to know if you opponent had a wall hack...
>>
>> I found this Page with google. For Demo's it's ok and necessary but it's
>> working on
>> my Warserver ingame, too.
>>
>> Maybe it helps you for VAC.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Andrew Forsberg]

> 1: WTS: Clue
> 2: Public Bugs get squashed before non public bugs.
> 3: He used goggle. Its a public site. If someones smart enough to
> subscribe to this list to find '1337 h4x', theyre smart enough to use google
> 4: See 1

Downgrade the aggression level please. We're adults here.

Ta.


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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[Jeremy Brooking]

W0kk3L wrote:

Ehm, you're giving out a site which contains all sorts of cheats.
Think that
is wise to do? I won't abuse them, but (maybe) some others on this
list will
do. (i learned from my mistake last time, posting a bug here ;)). Next
time,
just send Alfred a private message instead of posting this site in the
mailinglist. :)


1: WTS: Clue
2: Public Bugs get squashed before non public bugs.
3: He used goggle. Its a public site. If someones smart enough to
subscribe to this list to find '1337 h4x', theyre smart enough to use google
4: See 1



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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats

[W0kk3L]

Ehm, you're giving out a site which contains all sorts of cheats. Think that
is wise to do? I won't abuse them, but (maybe) some others on this list will
do. (i learned from my mistake last time, posting a bug here ;)). Next time,
just send Alfred a private message instead of posting this site in the
mailinglist. :)

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "x-ares-x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Alfred Reynolds" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats



Hey Alfred,

I don't know if you know this site:

http://cheatnetwork.free.fr/cheatdb/index2.php?action=&game_id=27

I was searching for a way to see the Opponent Models in a Demo,
because I wanted to know if you opponent had a wall hack...

I found this Page with google. For Demo's it's ok and necessary but it's
working on
my Warserver ingame, too.

Maybe it helps you for VAC.

Regards

Alex








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