Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-07 Thread Christian Ingholt
Hi Michael,

I know, thats why the sentinel projekt stoped, it was based on a master server og 
more for updates and the it woud have cost alot of money and alot of hardwork to keep 
it DoS free with continious monitoing the servers and acces to accces listing tools 
and a hardend firewall. not talking about the money issue, but the base and a working 
model was made but as long as the trafic prices and the terror of DoS or other hacking 
fear are there its not a option for us admins to run on a zero cost function, 
valve/steam have a great tool in steam to develop somthing of the same ? the idear is 
there and its just to do it (as the nike commercials)

If you have spare trafic and some cpu power you dont use and want to help out 
www.hltv.org in setting you hltv servers so we can expand on the us marked we woud be 
glad to help setting them you for remote control via our remote tools and sql database 
and also keep them up2date and so, but thats somthing else, feel free to write me if 
you want to step in to the seene of hltv.org :)

Best regards
Christian Ingholt

- Original Message -
From: Michael Ressen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds


 - -Original Message-
 - From: Christian Ingholt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -
 - Enabling a WH for admins for spectating purpose are not an
 - option, woud you play on a server where all 5 form the other
 - team have the option to turn on/off wh with out getting
 - detected ?, and yes you can say it shoud only work when your
 - dead but still no one woud play a game where somone can get
 - those kinds of advantages.
 -
 - Futhermore, the is a linux server list, if there comes some
 - linke to cheats it cant se any problem, I uesed to do a lot
 - of cheat testing for www.unitedadmins.com and help
 - developing hlg in both optimising scripts detection and
 - other forms of help. We are server admins on this list, and
 - I like to check up on what cheats are out now, as I can se
 - valve vil never get  rid of cheaters unless they move the
 - server and client engien over on a up2date engien with built
 - ind AC and they keep the sdk code, There are many ways a
 - game can become cheat free, and Valve have a major tool in
 - steam there can be used as a background memory scanner for
 - cheats, it takes 2 sek to scan the memory for signatours
 - files belive me, I was with the www.thecleaners.dk where we
 - developed a client/server anticheat there updated the client
 - of the anticheat every 1 houre and every cheat we testet and
 - coud get our hand on, we procduced memory signatours files
 - for memory scanning and cheat detetion, fouthermore we did
 - hdd scaniing and cvar scanning, still today no AC from
 - valve,unitedadmins,cheating death have had any succes to
 - take our software and make it a public release because it
 - depends on a master server to update the client of the
 - anticheat software ones every houre, withs was only 35kb...
 -
 - If someone have a few 1gb internet connections with free
 - international trafic I woud be glad to get
 - www.unitedadmins.com to start developing on that anticheat again.
 -
 - So as I said erlier, its ok for admins to post cheat links
 - in here, it gives us and valve a chance to stay up2date
 - about the cheating community there are doing every thing to
 - spoil a perfect good game(if we can get some, memoryleaking
 - free,optimised binaries and don't have to do server updates
 - every week)
 -
 - Christian over and out
 -

 Christian,

 I operate a US mirror for UA, as well as do HLG testing, and while there
 are a million things we would love to do for the community, becoming an
 additional DDoS target by hosting a server like this is not high on my
 list of things I want.   We have a hard enough time working with
 strictly donated bandwidth and servers to support our infrastructure,
 and in times of C-D releases our servers do take quite a pounding.

 /BA


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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-05 Thread Christopher Luk
excuse me. do u have problem with your computer clock?

2003/2/5 AM 10:48

its 2004 already.

chris

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wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM
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We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today.

Erik

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Bergh
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
My hero :)




From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800
The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which
will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the
release).


-Original Message-
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Marcelo Bezerra
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM
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Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :)

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote:


probably this Wednesday.

I will thank you on my knees for that!





From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800
We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this





Wednesday).



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Behalf Of Frash


Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Alfred,
The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small




load for such a slow CPU.
I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is




a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy
as long these high load times are fixed.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-05 Thread kkith
I knew what you meant the first time, I was just being an ass.

Mike Kercher wrote:

Sure...I see.  I said it would be nice if it were open source.

The point I'm trying to make is that people complain WAY too much on this
list.  I'm sure Alfred and the other developers at Valve get tired of *most*
of the threads here bashing them day in and day out.
People ought to take a moment and put themselves in Vavle's shoes.  Would
you go to work every single day and put forth your best effort if all of
your customers beat you down for 9 hours a day.  I'd develop a real sour
taste in a hurry!  Despite the troubles Valve has had with Steam, at least
they're still putting in the effort to make it better.





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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread admin
Might as well, this whole steam thing is like an on-going beta test anyways
lol... :)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:00 PM
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Why?  So everyone can complain that it wasn't tested thoroughly enough?  Cut
them some slack and let them work!



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wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM
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We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today.

Erik

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Bergh
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

My hero :)


From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800

The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which
will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the
release).

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Marcelo Bezerra
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
 
  Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :)
 
  On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote:
   probably this Wednesday.
  
   I will thank you on my knees for that!
  
  
  
   From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
   Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800
   
   We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this

   Wednesday).
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Frash
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small

 load for such a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
 unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is

 a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Kercher
Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe
people actually PAID for the HLDS software.  Valve ought to go the way of
sendmail.  Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better
support, options and features.



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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:39 PM
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Might as well, this whole steam thing is like an on-going beta test anyways
lol... :)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds


Why?  So everyone can complain that it wasn't tested thoroughly enough?  Cut
them some slack and let them work!



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wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today.

Erik

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wouter v/d
Bergh
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

My hero :)


From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800

The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which
will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the
release).

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Marcelo Bezerra
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
 
  Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :)
 
  On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote:
   probably this Wednesday.
  
   I will thank you on my knees for that!
  
  
  
   From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
   Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800
   
   We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this

   Wednesday).
   
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Frash
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small

 load for such a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
 unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is

 a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread VxD - Phil
Seriously, give these people some slack.  Software development hits
road bumps sometimes that causes unpredictable amounts of debugging
time.  Something like painting a house can be estimated...software
development often cannot.

Give these guys a break.  I for one am happy to see any improvements
to the linux binary even if set back a little while.

Phil

Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 10:38:42 PM, you wrote:

agc Might as well, this whole steam thing is like an on-going beta test anyways
agc lol... :)

agc -Original Message-
agc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
agc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike
agc Kercher
agc Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:00 PM
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agc Why?  So everyone can complain that it wasn't tested thoroughly enough?  Cut
agc them some slack and let them work!



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agc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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agc wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol.

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agc Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM
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agc We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today.

agc Erik

agc -Original Message-
agc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
agc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wouter v/d
agc Bergh
agc Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM
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agc Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

agc My hero :)


From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800

The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which
will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the
release).

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Marcelo Bezerra
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
 
  Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :)
 
  On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote:
   probably this Wednesday.
  
   I will thank you on my knees for that!
  
  
  
   From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
   Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800
   
   We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this

   Wednesday).
   
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Frash
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small

 load for such a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
 unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is

 a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread kkith
Mike Kercher wrote:

Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe
people actually PAID for the HLDS software.  Valve ought to go the way of
sendmail.  Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better
support, options and features.


Does that imply hlds software be open source?

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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Mike Kercher wrote:
Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe
people actually PAID for the HLDS software.  Valve ought to go the way of
sendmail.  Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better
support, options and features.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=symbiosis

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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Kercher
I didn't say anything about it being open source.  I said free.
It would be nice if it was, but I don't see that happening.



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 Mike Kercher wrote:

 Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to
 believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software.  Valve
 ought to go
 the way of sendmail.  Have a free engine with no support and a paid
 engine with better support, options and features.
 
 
 
 Does that imply hlds software be open source?

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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread kkith
Sendmail is open source.  Do you see where I could get that implication?

Mike Kercher wrote:

I didn't say anything about it being open source.  I said free.
It would be nice if it was, but I don't see that happening.




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Mike Kercher wrote:



Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to
believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software.  Valve

ought to go


the way of sendmail.  Have a free engine with no support and a paid
engine with better support, options and features.




Does that imply hlds software be open source?

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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Kercher
Sure...I see.  I said it would be nice if it were open source.

The point I'm trying to make is that people complain WAY too much on this
list.  I'm sure Alfred and the other developers at Valve get tired of *most*
of the threads here bashing them day in and day out.

People ought to take a moment and put themselves in Vavle's shoes.  Would
you go to work every single day and put forth your best effort if all of
your customers beat you down for 9 hours a day.  I'd develop a real sour
taste in a hurry!  Despite the troubles Valve has had with Steam, at least
they're still putting in the effort to make it better.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:12 AM
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 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Sendmail is open source.  Do you see where I could get that
 implication?

 Mike Kercher wrote:

 I didn't say anything about it being open source.  I said free.
 It would be nice if it was, but I don't see that happening.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kkith
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
 
 Mike Kercher wrote:
 
 
 
 Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to
 believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software.  Valve
 
 
 ought to go
 
 
 the way of sendmail.  Have a free engine with no support
 and a paid
 engine with better support, options and features.
 
 
 
 
 
 Does that imply hlds software be open source?
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-02 Thread Daniel Stroven
That map is a high load map, even it if it had 20 bugs or no bugs.  Just
puts a strain on the servers for whatever reason.
- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds


 With de_aztec, the issue not come from cpu usage but from the too many
bugs
 in the map !

 -Message d'origine-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Frash
 Envoyé : lundi 2 février 2004 15:41
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 Objet : [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds


 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small load for
such
 a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file unofficially
or
 will you wait until
 the next release? There is a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind
it
 being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-02 Thread Alfred Reynolds
We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this
Wednesday).

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frash
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a
 small load for such
 a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
 unofficially or
 will you wait until
 the next release? There is a HUGE demand for it so most
 people wont mind it
 being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-02 Thread Sebastian
I assume couple days then ;)

- Original Message -
From: Alfred Reynolds


 We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this
Wednesday).



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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-02 Thread Chris Meisinger
Alfred,

I can't tell you Thanks enough for working on this problem.   I'm honestly
not expecting a 100% fix with the first release, no one should, but this
shows us (The Community), that you guys truly are listening to our gripes
and doing something about it.  This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
=)


Thanks!


Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reynolds
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this
Wednesday).

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frash
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a
 small load for such
 a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
 unofficially or
 will you wait until
 the next release? There is a HUGE demand for it so most
 people wont mind it
 being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-02 Thread wouter v/d Bergh
probably this Wednesday.

I will thank you on my knees for that!



From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800
We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this
Wednesday).
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frash
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

 Alfred,
 The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a
 small load for such
 a slow CPU.
 I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
 unofficially or
 will you wait until
 the next release? There is a HUGE demand for it so most
 people wont mind it
 being buggy
 as long these high load times are fixed.


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RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds

2004-02-02 Thread Britt Priddy \(PZGN\)

Gah!
lmao poor Alfred :P




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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:23 PM
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probably this Wednesday.

I will thank you on my knees for that!



From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800

We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this
Wednesday).

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frash
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
 
  Alfred,
  The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small load
  for such a slow CPU.
  I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file
  unofficially or
  will you wait until
  the next release? There is a HUGE demand for it so most
  people wont mind it
  being buggy
  as long these high load times are fixed.
 
 
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